I served aboard the Shang-in 1970--last cruise west-pac--I was in M division-Evap gang--found one of my old shipmates about 2 years ago-on Buddy search.com-if your looking for some you served with check it out.I'am still looking for more of the evap gang-so if your out there please respond--
Anybody notice what appears to be a periscope about 100 yards behind the carrier and directly centered in the wake? Good place to hide a sub if thats what you have in mind.
Do you know the guy who filmed this? My grandpa was the Photo Chief on board the Shangri-La from 1967-1968 and I'm trying to locate some of his shipmates from the photo lab/media.
The shitty Shang lost a screw on a WestPac in 1970 and spent a month in HK for repairs and we had to take her place on the line. THREE MONTHS of attack flight ops was a lot without a port call.
If the video was shot in 1969, it was during the Shang's last Mediterranean cruise (the ship was deployed there from January to July). The two F-8 squadrons (VF-62, with the yellow tail and 200 side numbers and VF-13 with the 100 numbers) were decommissioned when the cruise ended. Judging by the lack of jackets on the flight deck crew, it must have been late spring or early summer when the video was taken. And yes, the wake aft of the ship is from a target skid. Doug Cox (VF-62 pilot).
Hey Check out 0:11, 0:22, 0:32,0:43, and others. There's another small wake within the wake of the carrier. Is that something being towed by the ship, or maybe a sub snorkel or periscope? Any insights from the vets out there?
@TalksWithDirt I served on the USS Bon Homme Richard in 69\70 WestPac and I have photos of a similar wake which was caused by a target skid towed by the ship used for bombing and staffing practice. Since I did not see any destroyers back there in this video then I assume that it was a shakedown cruise off the coast of California which we used for practice.
I have a sequence of photos of a F-8 driver ejecting when he flamed out on recovery from the Shang.
@exenrontexas I always thought the F-8 should never been retired and the super crusader should have got the navy contract ahead of the phantom, as an allround fighter it was suited for vietnam and may have saved more navy pilots, than the gunless phantom when it was put into service, what do you think?
@pramboy09 I worked with a Phantom pilot as a civilian and he said that the Phantom proved the theory that if you put enough power on a brick you could make it fly. He said when he was coming in for a landing in DaNang that he got a frantic call from the tower that he had a bomb hanging on his plane (don't ask me how. It might have been a sea story) and they made him go out to sea and do some hi-G moves to shake it loose. ALL fighters should have guns.
@exenrontexas I have heard of the phantom been refered as a flying brick and it looks like the designers had to work around a bad design to get it to fly right especially looking at the tail section. I have heard of ww2 bombers having a stuck bomb in the bay but have not heard of the same having to a F-4.
Isn't it possible to just jettison that buddy refuel store? That would have made the landing a lot more safe, since the store itself could be damaged, and leak fuel, or the hose and basket could hit the deck crew..
Nice shots of Crusaders and Skyhawks trapping. That scooter jockey landing with the buddy store hanging out his ass didn't impress the crew! Guess it must have got stuck?
whats up there know way that nobody else is on here will im glad i served on this ship or may be im the only one lift ok hope somebody comes on this was a great ship guess you goys dont have time haha trickyricky
i was on this ship when we where in the med cruise i was great to hear them jet going what i cant understand is where are all the shipmate i was on from 1968 to 1970 i hope one day i coud hear from one of these guys great ship uss shangri-la cvs38 love every day on her hope more picture come on you tube thank you for this movies Rick
Hey. loved the video. An old family friend i met when i lived in Scotland back in the 60s was on this ship.(i think its the same one). Iknow there was 1000s of men on the ship. His name is John McGrath
Man, That WAS a gooood time. I too was stationed onboard the "Shang" from '69 thru 71. I was in S-1 Division. After we returned from "Westpac" I was transfered to the Intrepid [cvs11]. I would love to do it all again! Don Dulin Guston,Ky
I served aboard the Shang-in 1970--last cruise west-pac--I was in M division-Evap gang--found one of my old shipmates about 2 years ago-on Buddy search.com-if your looking for some you served with check it out.I'am still looking for more of the evap gang-so if your out there please respond--
carlmills100 3 months ago
The Essex class CV(A)s were workhorses in the Gulf of Tonkin.
We ran cyclic ops every day when we were on station.
Arm 'em, Cat 'em, wait, wait, wait, Recover 'em, Park 'em, Fuel 'em, then do it all over again.
Flight Quarters went off at 5:30 am (first launch at 7:00 am) and the last plane (The Whale, normally) trapped at 9:00 pm.
Long days.
I was V4 onboard U.S.S. Bon Homme Richard (CVA 31) for 3 Westpacs.
We were always the last guys to hit the rack.
But I'd do it again.
Maybe.
hammerogod 7 months ago
That was a stuck "buddy store". They knew it was coming aboard and were prepared for it.
SK65Pilot 9 months ago
What was that A-4 dragging behind it as it trapped? Looks dangerous for the flight deck crew (to say nothing of the pilot!)
heavensentme5 9 months ago
Anybody notice what appears to be a periscope about 100 yards behind the carrier and directly centered in the wake? Good place to hide a sub if thats what you have in mind.
Whitebear329 11 months ago
Mike7
Yes I know the guy, he was an airdale in VF-62, not with ships company.
Regards
Steve
SK65Pilot 1 year ago
this was so great to be on this ship i was here omg i was happy to be here i was on station 5
tricky062 1 year ago
Do you know the guy who filmed this? My grandpa was the Photo Chief on board the Shangri-La from 1967-1968 and I'm trying to locate some of his shipmates from the photo lab/media.
mike71085 1 year ago
The shitty Shang lost a screw on a WestPac in 1970 and spent a month in HK for repairs and we had to take her place on the line. THREE MONTHS of attack flight ops was a lot without a port call.
exenrontexas 1 year ago
Skyhawks Forever.
bufixteam 2 years ago
If the video was shot in 1969, it was during the Shang's last Mediterranean cruise (the ship was deployed there from January to July). The two F-8 squadrons (VF-62, with the yellow tail and 200 side numbers and VF-13 with the 100 numbers) were decommissioned when the cruise ended. Judging by the lack of jackets on the flight deck crew, it must have been late spring or early summer when the video was taken. And yes, the wake aft of the ship is from a target skid. Doug Cox (VF-62 pilot).
dougcox3 2 years ago
it could be a sub i dont know ????
thetrainguru 2 years ago
Hey Check out 0:11, 0:22, 0:32,0:43, and others. There's another small wake within the wake of the carrier. Is that something being towed by the ship, or maybe a sub snorkel or periscope? Any insights from the vets out there?
TalksWithDirt 2 years ago
@TalksWithDirt I served on the USS Bon Homme Richard in 69\70 WestPac and I have photos of a similar wake which was caused by a target skid towed by the ship used for bombing and staffing practice. Since I did not see any destroyers back there in this video then I assume that it was a shakedown cruise off the coast of California which we used for practice.
I have a sequence of photos of a F-8 driver ejecting when he flamed out on recovery from the Shang.
exenrontexas 2 years ago
@exenrontexas I always thought the F-8 should never been retired and the super crusader should have got the navy contract ahead of the phantom, as an allround fighter it was suited for vietnam and may have saved more navy pilots, than the gunless phantom when it was put into service, what do you think?
pramboy09 1 year ago
@pramboy09 I worked with a Phantom pilot as a civilian and he said that the Phantom proved the theory that if you put enough power on a brick you could make it fly. He said when he was coming in for a landing in DaNang that he got a frantic call from the tower that he had a bomb hanging on his plane (don't ask me how. It might have been a sea story) and they made him go out to sea and do some hi-G moves to shake it loose. ALL fighters should have guns.
exenrontexas 1 year ago
@exenrontexas I have heard of the phantom been refered as a flying brick and it looks like the designers had to work around a bad design to get it to fly right especially looking at the tail section. I have heard of ww2 bombers having a stuck bomb in the bay but have not heard of the same having to a F-4.
pramboy09 1 year ago
I was in VF-13, on the Shang from 66 to 68. 2 Med Cruises. Very good memories, retrospectively!!
Don Ward
AQF-3
Ponchodon 3 years ago
Isn't it possible to just jettison that buddy refuel store? That would have made the landing a lot more safe, since the store itself could be damaged, and leak fuel, or the hose and basket could hit the deck crew..
Anyway, great video, thanks for uploading it!
RickyboyH 3 years ago
Nice shots of Crusaders and Skyhawks trapping. That scooter jockey landing with the buddy store hanging out his ass didn't impress the crew! Guess it must have got stuck?
caterpillarmarch 3 years ago
whats up there know way that nobody else is on here will im glad i served on this ship or may be im the only one lift ok hope somebody comes on this was a great ship guess you goys dont have time haha trickyricky
tricky062 3 years ago
Very interesting footage. Thanks
mig25pd 3 years ago
i was on this ship when we where in the med cruise i was great to hear them jet going what i cant understand is where are all the shipmate i was on from 1968 to 1970 i hope one day i coud hear from one of these guys great ship uss shangri-la cvs38 love every day on her hope more picture come on you tube thank you for this movies Rick
tricky062 3 years ago
Hey. loved the video. An old family friend i met when i lived in Scotland back in the 60s was on this ship.(i think its the same one). Iknow there was 1000s of men on the ship. His name is John McGrath
Will keep lookin.
Moira, from OZ
rowserette 3 years ago
Man, That WAS a gooood time. I too was stationed onboard the "Shang" from '69 thru 71. I was in S-1 Division. After we returned from "Westpac" I was transfered to the Intrepid [cvs11]. I would love to do it all again! Don Dulin Guston,Ky
biker40142 2 years ago