lolChamillionaire who? and gucci mane sucks.. what relevance do cham or gucci got in the game these days? wayne is probaly one of the hottest rappers out and it's been like that for a while
if any1 thinks that Wayne is better than Cham u are obviously not listening. everything he says has meaning, sometimes more than meaning. Wayne is cool but he doesn't make sense, he's like all over the place. all u no is that he's rhyming and it sounds good. he'll go from talkin about "young money" 2 an STD all in the same sentence. and it sounds cool the way he says it but still if u think about it it's like wtf did he say that 4? u sit and think about Cham's words and he'll have u in awe
Chams style is way more versatile than gucci or Wayne.. Spits fast or slow w/ metaphors & stories.. Wayne and gucci can both only spit slow w/ all punchlines
honestly, I dont care if you LIKE gucci or wayne more than chamillionaire, but if you cant admit cham is the most talented, you are just a damn corporate sellout
everyone is out their mind. LIL WAYNE IS A WANNABE. Gucci don't got it no more. CHAM KILLS IS MANNNN. Give it up. "wayne kills" "gucci kills" you don't know anything about rappppp sooooo go comment on a country ass rock and roll video.
Anyone who thinks lil wayne is a good rapper was dropped on their head when they were a baby or they just cant hear. Gucci think hes all that but he sucks. CHAM all the way! check out hip hop police, turn my swag on(chams version), and ridin dirty. they could easily kill any of lil whines crap.
I am sooooo shocked right now....wowww..um weezy is the shit...fuck what each and every one of you say okayyy (: gucci sounds like he's fuckin retarded but his beats are the shit though..and whatever that other nigga name is no comment haha
ok everything is good but gucci man??? why would you even put him on this??? that nigga sucks cham is the best wayne is up there but gucci stupid ass is ouyt of the map
Chamillionaire is the best rapper in the south and I put him only second to Biggie and emiem !.... Wayne's okay. Gucci always has badass beats but his lyrics..... idk about that.... lol
Chammillionaire was in Forbes Cash King for making $11,000,000 in 1 year, he has a business too, and he has a new song, and his cd is dropping this year, don't forget his mixtapes sells like crazy he's the mixtape messiah, gucci rich you right about that but he don't have more than Cham or Wayne, but Gucci just got crazy hott beats
haha hatin ass dude all these niggas go hard..cham, gucci, then wayne...old wayne goes harrrd..all these dudes papers straight..cham and wayne up in forbes, gucci hard right now
y would u even add gucci mane, the dude sucks like 2 BIG straws he's not better then nick cannon lol. Wayne says his shit ova and ova and ova and ova, now cham is the truth all his shit is hard and hes the best but he has no push now
this is crazy. i understand cham vs wayne but why add gucci, he wack, he got good beats and good hooks. lyrically hes horrible. cham and wayne is where its at. Major Pain is the hottest mixtape right now.
Do yall not know who yall comparinq! Who is Chamillionaire? nd Gucci Mane is a really qood rapper but no better than wayne! Wayne is the Best Rapper Alive just in case yhu didnt know! He is a multi-millionaire,President of Younq Money, and siqned to Cash Money/Universal....Gucci mane aint sold as much as wayne which means that wayne fan base is highter! It aint even bout that its aboutwho got mo skillz and yall know that wayne killinq gucci that aint no comparison!WAYNE ALL DAY!!!
I hate ppl on waynes dick. Hes a good ass rapper but hes not Jesus. get off his fuckin dick you faggot. And who's chamillionaire? the most famous rapper out of texas. not the best from texas, but the most famous. and gucci is good but all his shit is too similar.
WOW OMG DUDE you say Gucci is the biggest thing going on right now!!!!! WOW thats a slap in the face. THE BIGGEST THING GOING RIGHT NOW IS "DRAKE" NOW THAT NIGGA IS LYRICAL GUCCI IS ALL ABOUT PUSSY, MONEY WEED FAME LIKE ALL THE OTHER RAPPERS AT Least DRAKE has some lyrics we can listen too.. not like gucci and waynes same old shit... so think about who you think is the best right now i know it aint no god damn gucci mane... DRAKE is I WANT THIS SHIT FOREVER!
wayne just makes noises and coochie looks like a retard if yall dumbass niggas cant spell chamillionaire's name right i feel sorry for yall go back to elementary
hahahahaha you actually think that Gucci even compare to cham or wayne..??? Look I aint got nothing against Gucci but gucci compares more to mike jones if anything. KOOPA would tear all these fools up
Chamillionaire is the best fuck lil wayne he can take that lollipop and shove it up his ass and gucci mane just sucks period
CrIsTiAn963100 1 month ago
1. Chamillionaire
2. King Koopa
3. Mixtape Messiah
4. Lil Wayne
5 6 7 8 9 10 .......
10000 Gucci Mane
itsjustanameman 1 month ago
1.Koopa
2.Koopa
3.Koopa
Koopa all the way chamilitary mayne
umanatress 2 months ago
1.Gucci
2.Chamillianaire
3.wayne
yungtutchi 2 months ago
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Gucci Gucci Burrrr!!!!
Gucci Tha king wayne went fake after 10,000 bars
yungtutchi 2 months ago
LIL WAYNE THE BEST
reneekwc 2 months ago
lil wayne :D
aoeirbnefpsoebnlief 4 months ago
gucci mane
LILYUNGSTAZENT 4 months ago
they all good rappers
mmafighter623 5 months ago
lil wayne all day
LakersandCeltics 7 months ago
dont have to say whos won where is only one realist
ChamilliTHEBEST 7 months ago
GUCCHH
TheLilztheg 7 months ago
Man still all hale for king koopa
Yeh man
centuriongeek 7 months ago
GUCCI MANEBURRR
MrSilverstarboy 8 months ago
1) Koopa
2) Weezy
3) Gucci
wwe619mysterio1 8 months ago
Cham, cham and cham... Cant Call weezy a rapper, hes just mumbling ore something like that... No matter what, he sucks cock in hell
mikkelandmathias 9 months ago
Chamillionaire never had a wack verse..he always go hard
trock0486 9 months ago
lolChamillionaire who? and gucci mane sucks.. what relevance do cham or gucci got in the game these days? wayne is probaly one of the hottest rappers out and it's been like that for a while
souprulez 10 months ago
gooch talk about something other than guns cars or jewels, lil wayne just try to make sense, cham get ur ass to prison cuz u just murdered them.
hurricanelogan 10 months ago
WINNER IS CLEARLY CHAMILLIONAIRE THEN SECOND OR FIRST TO LOSE IS LIL WAYNE THEN GUCCI BUT CHAM KILLED THEM
rollas08 10 months ago
Gucci Mane All Day .. Burr 1017 Bricksquad Birds Up..***
MsNuMbA1cHiCk 11 months ago
1: Gucci
2: weezy
3: Gucci
frostydasnowmayne 11 months ago
@frostydasnowmayne fuck this nigga dont kno shit
1punkassbitch 11 months ago
round 1:Cham round 2:Gucci
round 3:Gucci
WINNER: GUCCI MANE
thalis214 11 months ago 3
Chamilionair Killed those motherfuckers!!!
salasrcp90 1 year ago
who ever made these is a true eye to where the good shits at listen to both cuz there all my favorite and listen to them everyday
cheesynugget68 1 year ago
Chamillionaire is obviously the best outta these two. Gucci don't even come close to either wayne or cham. he fuckin sux major dick.
brentjeezy 1 year ago
@brentjeezy or these 3 rather.
brentjeezy 1 year ago
Gucci and wayne are fucking bullshit. Cham is together with scarface and dead prez one of the best from south.
nonofyall 1 year ago
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BunPimp713 1 year ago
Big Gucci.!
Lil Wayne Is Wayy To Over Rated.
BunPimp713 1 year ago
what was the 3rd cham song?
Chamillionaire82 1 year ago
if any1 thinks that Wayne is better than Cham u are obviously not listening. everything he says has meaning, sometimes more than meaning. Wayne is cool but he doesn't make sense, he's like all over the place. all u no is that he's rhyming and it sounds good. he'll go from talkin about "young money" 2 an STD all in the same sentence. and it sounds cool the way he says it but still if u think about it it's like wtf did he say that 4? u sit and think about Cham's words and he'll have u in awe
SUPERBOY6 1 year ago
GUUUUCCCCCCCI MANE
MrSilverstarboy 1 year ago
lol @ all the chamaillionaire fans here, cham ain't got shit on wayne sorry.
souprulez 1 year ago
@souprulez oh yeah, compare flowing with krayzie bone to ''lick me like a lolipop'' and ''newsflash, weezy fucking baby with his fruit ass''
nonofyall 1 year ago
Koopa and Wayne ownz
Gucci's just an utter ears sore piece of shit
ThePhantomKing 1 year ago
May i know the name of the first Chamillionaire song, please?
SHREDpHoBiA 1 year ago
@SHREDpHoBiA switch styles reloaded, mixtape messiah 6
spitwhatsreal 1 year ago
all three suck..Eminem is better
X9Cruzito4X 1 year ago
whats the name of the third song by chamillionaire
kennethcreed 1 year ago
@kennethcreed sway ft chamillionaire - up your speed.
djcham445 1 year ago
on a scale of 1-10
chamillonare 8
Lil wayne 6
gucci 3
jagedyshagedy 1 year ago
wayne al ke won da battle
krisbrownsr 1 year ago
DAMN Son! Were you find this? haha
brucefu23 1 year ago
dude all you lil wayne fans are stupid, chamillionaire pwns wayne anyday listen to chamillionaires a milli way better than waynes
brucefu23 1 year ago
Lmao Cham got this.
MRTUPAC28 1 year ago
name of the songs??
gunsmoneynweed 1 year ago
Chams style is way more versatile than gucci or Wayne.. Spits fast or slow w/ metaphors & stories.. Wayne and gucci can both only spit slow w/ all punchlines
tylertinnin 1 year ago
im wit u cenawwe9
Mark237579 1 year ago
y every lil wayne vs someone they put his shitty verses
deeznutz950 1 year ago
LIL WAYNE FTW!!!!
partypeople64 1 year ago
honestly, I dont care if you LIKE gucci or wayne more than chamillionaire, but if you cant admit cham is the most talented, you are just a damn corporate sellout
ExtraBigAssFries1 1 year ago 16
guccccccccciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
TheLilztheg 1 year ago
1.Chamillianaire
2.Wayne
3.Gucci
randythesuperfly 1 year ago
they all suck but chamillionaire is the best out of those 3 lyrically
ucantknockthehustle 1 year ago
Wayne- doesn't make no sense
Cham- No good Musik
GUCCI MANEE---ALL THE WAY,!
9Cruzito4 1 year ago
@9Cruzito4 what do you mean no good music he makes better music then gucci mane and wayne
cenawwe9 1 year ago
@cenawwe9 mmm okay sureeee
9Cruzito4 1 year ago
lol lil wayne has no talent chamhundrednaire sucks too. gucci mane burrr gucci killed
cooloman55 1 year ago
gucci all day
AceBoogie37 1 year ago
yooooooooo imsrry gucci nd weezy but chamillionaire killed dat
iiErik1 1 year ago
fuck gucci, fuck wayne ; cham kill them both
xlaFax 1 year ago
Cham is too underated and he destroy every one of them...but I would say there is wrong song from cham there,he have much better verses.
Nixislord 1 year ago 7
CHAMILLITARY RAWEST NIGGA
ScamMastermine002 1 year ago
fuck lil wayne
yandashkov 1 year ago
weezy all day
souprulez 1 year ago
chamillionaire vs young jeezy
123jorgeleon 1 year ago
@123jorgeleon watch?v=9xMYgSn0tvk
xECKSx58 1 year ago
Why the fuck are Wayne and Gucci being compared Cham!? WTF!? Koop would kill em every day of every week.
LavLTC 1 year ago
u know wayne the fucken best and gucci comin back
jamesonedlow 1 year ago
listen to Chamillionaire's freestyle to Hero by Nas
then listen to these other 2 whacked fags freestyle ... nuff said!
RealRapMusic101 1 year ago
why would u guys compare a beast (chamillonare) to shit?
iSupportUnderground 1 year ago
cham is so under rated. Hes actually really good
NotreDameGators 1 year ago 2
all of them or so sick how the fuck can u guys pick u must all be retarded
cheesynugget68 1 year ago
gucci won diz shit
k3imk3im6 1 year ago
everyone is out their mind. LIL WAYNE IS A WANNABE. Gucci don't got it no more. CHAM KILLS IS MANNNN. Give it up. "wayne kills" "gucci kills" you don't know anything about rappppp sooooo go comment on a country ass rock and roll video.
CHAM ALL DAY
mirege223 1 year ago
gucci killed it bitch
DUNKRYDER4LIFE 1 year ago
cham and gucci sucks so bad.. wayne is king
BruteTheG 1 year ago
@BruteTheG hahahah you wanna rethink that one?
03PennState03 1 year ago
@03PennState03 ok jadakiss is king.. wayne is a monster when he's really trying
BruteTheG 1 year ago
lil wayne won
killer1234206 1 year ago
Anyone who thinks lil wayne is a good rapper was dropped on their head when they were a baby or they just cant hear. Gucci think hes all that but he sucks. CHAM all the way! check out hip hop police, turn my swag on(chams version), and ridin dirty. they could easily kill any of lil whines crap.
whatthebananaful 1 year ago 2
chamillionaire u idiots, all raw tho
blaze1cuhz 1 year ago
chamillionaire
is a beast
lilbruizer000 1 year ago
riding dirty still cham's best song, and after weezy put la la la on C3 theres no contest, ISSSSSS GUCCIII BURRRRR
hardeepiscool 1 year ago
fuck these bitches. its gucci all day err day.none of waynes whiny shit, and none of chamillionaire ugly monkey lookin ass's shit either.
ilovefatchicks94 1 year ago
luvvvvvv gucci ......even named my pitt after him. lmao
jenniferdelsol 1 year ago
cham all day wayne is a little sucker and gucci is well
ChamillitaryGermany 1 year ago
gucci fuck niggas
msluvlii21 1 year ago
Lil Wayne won 1 Chamillionaire Won 2 and Gucci well he's just a waste like he's chain no creativity
24993057c 1 year ago
gucci and lil wayne are beast.cham sucks
1xXchrisXx7 1 year ago
GUCCI !!!!!
Dominic09131996 1 year ago
yo ass i kan rap fast
tay12342 1 year ago
lil wayne won
tay12342 1 year ago
@tay12342 lil waynes a faggot cham is dope so fuck off man
RealRapMusic101 1 year ago
Lil wayne anyday
QualityDubify 1 year ago
wayne aint shit, Gucci could beat him but Cham would kill those two easy
killermonkeyto 1 year ago
gucci all day wtf who would cam in this battle he cant even beat soulja boy. fuck wayne too gucci kill both of thim niggas
bnj513allday 1 year ago
cham is a beast. he killed both these weak ass niggaz....
xXFaMoUsxX420 1 year ago
I am sooooo shocked right now....wowww..um weezy is the shit...fuck what each and every one of you say okayyy (: gucci sounds like he's fuckin retarded but his beats are the shit though..and whatever that other nigga name is no comment haha
FREE WEEZY(:
ashmash804 1 year ago
cham is the best :) rap texas
TheChamillionaire28 1 year ago
wayne sux!!!!!!!!
pdth88 1 year ago
i gotta talk to yall for 1 gucci killn chamillionare weezy killn gucci so thats what it is
jmeezy09 1 year ago
ok everything is good but gucci man??? why would you even put him on this??? that nigga sucks cham is the best wayne is up there but gucci stupid ass is ouyt of the map
knockoutjon214 1 year ago
WAT SONG DOES LIL WAYNE SING AT THE START
IM3THODZ 1 year ago
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IM3THODZ 1 year ago
weezy sucks now gucci had some hard beats and goes hardd chamillionaire he goes hard 2
mikeyzro 1 year ago
chamillionaire allday
devindoggthehomie 1 year ago
chamilli
BiTEDOWNxlETTE 1 year ago
this guy could of put better songs by all of them for a VS
kleeman87 1 year ago
1. Wayne
2. Koopa
3. Gucci
Lil wayne is da best rapper aliv3..!!
nysk8r247 1 year ago
@nysk8r247 im guessing u said that cus its a joke huh?
Boldtowngs 1 year ago
Chamillionaire. Hands Down.
gab76133 1 year ago
Lil' Wayne and Koopa are the shit!!!!! Gucci is alright but i love wayne and koopa. I love Rockstar by them too!!
TheLilWeezianimal 1 year ago
fuck yall bitches gucci mane the shit!!
MichaelCanSing 1 year ago
if u listen to chams words n how he freaks the beat cum on who can do that the whole song otha then bun b, big n pac......
BahStrikes89 1 year ago
i want bun b vs gucci
joeganster54 1 year ago
chamillitary mayne =)
zockey99 1 year ago 2
Chamillionaire is the best rapper in the south and I put him only second to Biggie and emiem !.... Wayne's okay. Gucci always has badass beats but his lyrics..... idk about that.... lol
isma141414 1 year ago 12
@isma141414 because you probably cant under stand him gucci he goes hard
reptileicb13 1 year ago
King Koopa won this shit!! oohh come on homies! there is no doubt..
DaXJY187 1 year ago 2
cham.. hands down fast and great flow and REAL LYRICS
Lil wayne...first 6 sec he just talked about money so i just went to cham.
Gucci mane.. I think i went deaf :P
brownboy706 1 year ago
gucci my dick he sucks
navy447 1 year ago
Gucci Mane is absolute trash!!
1.Weezy
2.Koopa
3.Gucci
smn2300 1 year ago
wayne is the best,gucci suckkkkkkkk and chamillionare is good but he wayyyy better then gucci and neither good as wAYNE
razzle9438 1 year ago
gucci mane won this
superpimpinboy 1 year ago
chamillionaire of course chamillitary MAYNE
cenawwe9 1 year ago
gucci rips all these niggas waynes old shit good but his new shit is shit. gucci keeps it real
spitnigga23s 1 year ago
GUCCI ...
0drunkerd0 2 years ago
KOOPA WRECKS ALL THESE NIGGAS!!!!!
justin956713 2 years ago
chamillionaire ALL THE WAY
cenawwe9 2 years ago
lil wanye < Gucci Mane < CHAMILLIOANIRE
YaNaYyyM 2 years ago
Chamilli all the way...I mean he is the best........then thers lil wayne but i dnt see gucci in the picture!
SuperDeshawn12 2 years ago
mixtape messiah 7 disc 2....mayne that koopa
db4life87 2 years ago 2
Gucci All The Way
imfunny4life 2 years ago
mann yall dont even know shit mother fucker.. gucci mane all day bitchhh,
imjustamazingliketht 2 years ago
man chammilnair suck dick dat niqqa have not made a song since 2007 and dat niqqa gucci rich he dont give a fuck wat yall think
kingmoney45 2 years ago
Chammillionaire was in Forbes Cash King for making $11,000,000 in 1 year, he has a business too, and he has a new song, and his cd is dropping this year, don't forget his mixtapes sells like crazy he's the mixtape messiah, gucci rich you right about that but he don't have more than Cham or Wayne, but Gucci just got crazy hott beats
ChrisWorld2034 2 years ago
haha hatin ass dude all these niggas go hard..cham, gucci, then wayne...old wayne goes harrrd..all these dudes papers straight..cham and wayne up in forbes, gucci hard right now
db4life87 2 years ago
y would u even add gucci mane, the dude sucks like 2 BIG straws he's not better then nick cannon lol. Wayne says his shit ova and ova and ova and ova, now cham is the truth all his shit is hard and hes the best but he has no push now
trouble3617 2 years ago
wats the name of lil waynes first song that played
aaronabeastbitch 2 years ago
#1 Chamillionaire
#2 .....
#3 .....
Lil Wayne & Gucci too garbage to be on the list.
waytoogangsta 2 years ago 4
CHAMILLIONAIRE is the BEST of the GREATEST!!!
Lil Gayne GAY as FUCK!! Gucci Gayne sound like a FUCKIN' FAG!
waytoogangsta 2 years ago
this is crazy. i understand cham vs wayne but why add gucci, he wack, he got good beats and good hooks. lyrically hes horrible. cham and wayne is where its at. Major Pain is the hottest mixtape right now.
ThatGuyNasty 2 years ago
Chamillionaire is dope. Wayne and Gucci Mane are straight garbage.
TheEcstatic23 2 years ago 5
Everybody Who Juss Said That Gucci Is Better Then Wayne Die You Are Obviously Dumb As Fuck.
JayBuysTheBar 2 years ago
Cashis KILLS everybody in the game today he the one who still reps his set
MrGzuz 2 years ago
Chamillionaire owns all.
PorshhhPanic 2 years ago 2
Fuck wayne & Chamillionaire!! Gucci Is the Mane Nikka rite now
vicdj1 2 years ago
Do yall not know who yall comparinq! Who is Chamillionaire? nd Gucci Mane is a really qood rapper but no better than wayne! Wayne is the Best Rapper Alive just in case yhu didnt know! He is a multi-millionaire,President of Younq Money, and siqned to Cash Money/Universal....Gucci mane aint sold as much as wayne which means that wayne fan base is highter! It aint even bout that its aboutwho got mo skillz and yall know that wayne killinq gucci that aint no comparison!WAYNE ALL DAY!!!
tyasiajohnson12 2 years ago
I hate ppl on waynes dick. Hes a good ass rapper but hes not Jesus. get off his fuckin dick you faggot. And who's chamillionaire? the most famous rapper out of texas. not the best from texas, but the most famous. and gucci is good but all his shit is too similar.
4000Derick 2 years ago
So he is not better than Gucci and Wayne......ughh looks like we got another wayne hater to add to out list hahahahhaha ohhh shit!
tyasiajohnson12 2 years ago
You put waynes lowest crAP you know he has stronger shit
uchihaclan77 2 years ago
It doesnt matter if you put Lil waynes "Best stuff" on he would still lose! Haha...Lil wayne cant rap for shit.
Gucci is the biggest thing going atm...i dont see anyone else Ft'ing with Mariah carey in the small amount of time he done it in! POW POW!
lEastTube 2 years ago
WOW OMG DUDE you say Gucci is the biggest thing going on right now!!!!! WOW thats a slap in the face. THE BIGGEST THING GOING RIGHT NOW IS "DRAKE" NOW THAT NIGGA IS LYRICAL GUCCI IS ALL ABOUT PUSSY, MONEY WEED FAME LIKE ALL THE OTHER RAPPERS AT Least DRAKE has some lyrics we can listen too.. not like gucci and waynes same old shit... so think about who you think is the best right now i know it aint no god damn gucci mane... DRAKE is I WANT THIS SHIT FOREVER!
uchihaclan77 2 years ago
chamilinaire killed um both on this one. but gucci is better thn wayne. on this 1 it goes cham thn gucci thn wayne
sanjosetothefullest 2 years ago 2
Gucci wins
firedragon689 2 years ago
fuck weezy f bitch cham all day
itzDice23 2 years ago 18
@itzDice23 challimionaire is one of the worst
XTRM31YSMOOTH 1 year ago
@XTRM31YSMOOTH you have something wrong with your ears then
gayazzu 1 year ago
WAYNE AND CHAMILLIONAIRE PLZZZZ Gucci is the most rawest rapper out der with OJ 1 LVL DOWN plz GUCCI tear both them niggas up
Dontknowme23 2 years ago
lil wayne is better than chamillionaire and gucci mane. gucci mane sucks i hate the niggas voice . chamillionaire is pretty raw.
COOLDUD676767 2 years ago
cham killed em both i listened to wayne cus he say some funny shit but straight skipped over gucci
datdude1987 2 years ago
wayne just makes noises and coochie looks like a retard if yall dumbass niggas cant spell chamillionaire's name right i feel sorry for yall go back to elementary
itzDice23 2 years ago
@CrittX wayne is a fag wuth his gay ass voice CHAMILLIONAIRE will tear him and gucci up
itzDice23 2 years ago 3
wayne wil rape them
CrittX 2 years ago
chamillionaire kill both these fags fuck coochie and wayne and his wining gay ass
itzDice23 2 years ago 13
hahahahaha you actually think that Gucci even compare to cham or wayne..??? Look I aint got nothing against Gucci but gucci compares more to mike jones if anything. KOOPA would tear all these fools up
vikesfan1986 2 years ago 2
YOU DONT EVEN KNOE WAT YOU SAYIN.
angieelamae 2 years ago
GUCCI KILLED DAT BITCH BRUH ENUFF SED
GETMONEYORGETNUN 2 years ago
GUCCI !!!!!!!!
TeeJay292 2 years ago
gucci kills all these niggers
majiicpu3D 2 years ago
What songs are used by Gucci?
amarti9 2 years ago
gucci got it
DexDizzy 2 years ago
wtf? Gucci can't be put up against chamillionaire. thats like comparing DSL internet to dial up.
hippopcrazy 2 years ago