@SilatBegin <-----removed his comment. This is what he said:
"stupid korean... how about dis : /watch?v=QtbC9sngQYo"
it's not the koreans that are stupid... they aired the film clips of the con man being exposed. what's stupid is the people believing crap like this exists. How ironic to put down someone else while looking so uneducated for using a non-word like "dis"
BTW, the video he linked to is the same lying con man hiding the electric devices somewhere other than his shoe!
@malmsteen2002 there's articles online where you can make them... but if you dont know what you're doing, it could be dangerous. do a google search for "Electric Touch By Yigal Mesika" or see watch?v=_Vowx9r-Nso
is a magic trick. some other call Healing Universal Energy those people can make you feel good for a while with those energy but leter you might get sick or you had trouble with your family life.
When a Faith Healer fails to help the patient, they will use the excuse that the patients faith is not strong enough. Jesus and the Apostles raised several from the dead. Did those dead people have any faith at all? Or are the dead conscious of nothing?
When money is involved, there should always be questions raised.
@DonnieEugeneReed "Jesus and the Apostles raised several from the dead. Did those dead people have any faith at all? Or are the dead conscious of nothing?"
CORRECTION. the bible claims jesus and the apostles raised several from the dead. none of it's verified to be true. the bible makes MANY claims we know for sure isn't true. many failed prophecies and many known errors.
@lennyhipp The claims are verified by historical findings. When they raised the dead, there was many witnesses to verify that it did actually happen. This can also be found in historical documents outside of the Bible as well. There are many who use the bible to benefit themselves (false profits) but those will be found out as according to prophecy. Modern day prophecy will be spoken but true prophecy ended in Jesus time. All claiming to be modern prophets are fake according to Bible. No error
"When they raised the dead, there was many witnesses to verify that it did actually happen"
Circular logic. these eyewitnesses are mentioned ONLY in the bible. you cannot use the bible to prove the bible is true. Also, the oldest known copies of your bible (Codex Siniaticus) DONT mention jesus at all after the supposed resurrection. Hmmmmm. WHY was this info inserted into later editions of the bible?
Freudian slip for false prophet? funny, because the church is so tied into money it's laughable.
"but true prophecy ended in Jesus time"
"true" prophecy? you mean like where it predicts Demascus will be in ruins and never rebuilt? Like when it says the Nile river will dry up? Like where it says Abraham's descendents will be as plentiful as the stars? (the buy bull is several hundred trillion off here bud!) Like when it calls the moon a source of light? TWICE?!
@DonnieEugene sorry to burst your bubble of delusion, but there's nothing verified about your bible. it's riddled with MORE THAN 2K errors, inconsistencies and contradictions. It contains some of the most absurd fairy tales in all of fiction: multiple resurrections, a virgin birth, a global flood that could NOT have happened, talking snakes, unicorns, dragons, and living in the belly of a whale for three days just to name just a few of the more ridiculous things! Also, eyewitnesses = unreliable
@lennyhipp The Bible is not a scientific book but it confirms new findings by scientist. The world is round and it is hanging on nothing, just like the bible says. Prophesy has shown that Jesus is the true Messiah. The odds of that happening are even greater than someone believing in evolution.
Detail of the human body and perfect alignment of the planets is proof of a creator. Also shown in science is the details of each human body having details down in writing. DNA builds, repairs, copies
one of the more ridiculous claims i've EVER heard. this i gotta hear! give me some examples! the goat herders who wrote the bible were so ignorant of science they called the bat a bird, said rabbits chew cud, claimed plants existed before sunlight, that pi=3, that the moon is a light source, claimed a global flood happened, and MANY OTHER things we know now aren't true
idiot, the hebrew word used means CIRCLE not round... the buy bull ALSO says the earth is fixed and immovable... and fixed on a foundation. NEITHER one is true, is it? in fact, the bible implies a flat earth no less than FORTY times!
"Prophesy has shown that Jesus is the true Messiah"
let's rehearse some indisputable facts here:
1) You CANNOT use the bible to prove the bible!
2) there are ZERO prophecies in the bible that aren't self-fulfilling!
3) There are VERY FEW books out side the bible that mention jesus, and what's more telling is the MANY better known historians of the period that DO NOT mention him!
4) EVEN IF it were ever proven that someone named Jesus DID exist, there's still ZERO evidence he was a messiah, that he ever performed a miracle, or that he was raised from the dead! NONE!!
"someone believing in evolution"
now i know you're clueless. evolution is a fact and doesnt require beliefs. it's been shown to happen
let's talk about the human body. your god is such a crap engineer he made our eyes focus upside down, he made us with weak backs and knees, and mouths too small for our teeth and 70% of us need corrective lenses! NONE of this is explained by a perfect creator, but ALL is shown to have happened by evolution. Rationally explain fused chromosome #2 in humans. it ONLY makes sense thru evolution!
DNA repairs and copies? yeah, it's called MUTATIONS because they're IMPERFECT copies! Explained NOT by a perfect creator, but through evolution! Thanks to DNA, we can actually count the # of mutations! see the vid "Big Numbers: a Concept Creationists Don't Understand"
what about Endogenous Retro Viruses? slam dunk evidence evolution happened! see "Evidence for Evolution, Part III"
You fail miserably!
perfect alignment of planets? 99.99^200% of the universe is uninhabitable to us! WOW!
@lennyhipp no.. his shop is closed..even his official website is already closed..people already kno the truth..its quite funny when he giving an excuse to use the ayam kampung egg..because the ayam kampung egg is small...and even he used the normal egg..hehe..
I don't get it. Where did that quote come from? i don't see it anywhere here in the comments. Please explain.
"What would you do if someone commented on a skeptical video saying it's not true in the same manner?"
I'd demand to see their evidence for their claim and deal with it. WHY would it matter what kind of video it was? I'm asking for empirical evidence to back claims.
@SexyMelon "If someone's making a claim he's a fraud, the burden is on them likewise."
no. the burden of proof is ALWAYS the one making the claim. The claim is NOT "i claim he's a fraud" it's "He MUST prove he's legit" it's NEVER up to me to prove he's a fraud. person A makes the claim he has a sandwich that cures cancer. Person B calls him a liar. According to your twisted logic, it is up to person B to prove he's a liar?! Sorry, you couldn't be more wrong.
"And if you claim he's a fraud, the burden is on you to prove it"
bullshit. i gave you an example of why the burden isn't on me. If i claimed to have a 10,000 headed purple leprechaun in a box under my bed, and the pope said "bullshit", by your twisted logic, it's up to the pope to prove it's bullshit?! You're clearly not thinking, or simply don't know what "burden of proof" means.
your statement about hypocrisy shows how you lack critical thinking skills. the claim is NOT mine!
@lennyhipp "bullshit. i gave you an example of why the burden isn't on me."
And your example is stupid: if you're calling someone a liar, OF COURSE the burden of proof is on you to prove it.
"If i claimed to have a 10,000 headed purple leprechaun in a box under my bed, and the pope said "bullshit", by your twisted logic, it's up to the pope to prove it's bullshit?!"
@lennyhipp "your statement about hypocrisy shows how you lack critical thinking skills"
Clearly I have better critical thinking skills if I criticize people for fallacious arguments regardless of their allegiance. ;)
No, you have to prove someone else is a fraud just like they have to prove they're not. Anything else is a double standard, a hypocrisy, and would never be employed by a skeptic.
You can't expect people to take what you say on faith while arguing against that exact thing.
@lennyhipp It is on you. Are you saying he is a fraud? Are you defining him as a person who commits fraudulent actions? You would need to prove that.
You two are fighting for a semantic reason it would seem. I'm pretty sure you mean "he is a fraud" in the COLLOQUIAL sense. Not as absolute statement of fact, but as an assumption from previous experience.
I doubt you are dealing with absolute certainty at all. But if you are, then I would say your reasoning is wrong.
" Are you defining him as a person who commits fraudulent actions?"
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"You would need to prove that"
exhibit A: watch the damn video
"Not as absolute statement of fact, but as an assumption from previous experience"
Are you trying to get me to say he was shown to be a fraud THIS time, but it's still possible he has these powers? I'll call him a fraud until he shows otherwise.
@lennyhipp Randi does not usually say person X is a fraud. He cannot prove that. However he can show how these feats are performed with trickery. Until supernatural powers are displayed, no-one should have any reason to believe they exist. Thats not the same as saying they dont exist.
@SexyMelon "You would criticize people for commenting on a video trying to defend a fraud without proof... But yet you were doing the exact same thing."
I wasn't. You're insane. it's not the same thing at all.
Also, i would never demand proof as proofs dont exist outside the maths... I'm demanding evidence.
"yet at the same time you find it weird they don't believe yourself on faith?"
you missed the entire point of the experiment. i suggest you go watch it and read the comments
"You deliberately fooled people"
bullshit. i gave an example of how easily people are fooled. look at my other "the real magic?" videos. the original was up over a year, people were swearing to know the guy, swearing he was legit, until someone sent me the vids exposing him!
@lennyhipp It's very ironic, actually, since you behaved exactly like you thought those who responded to you did: while you thought people were defending a false claim contrary to solid evidence staring them right in the face, to them you were doing the exact same thing, actually announcing he's a fraud contrary to solid evidence staring you right in the face (edited to be so by your own hand).
Basically... You've edited a video designed to fool people and are surprised it actually fooled them.
"You've edited a video designed to fool people and are surprised it actually fooled them."
NONSENSE! I wasn't surprised. i knew in advance exactly what would happen! WHY ELSE would i have done it in the first place!? DUH!
"edited to be so by your own hand"
Irrelevant. the whole point of the editing was to show how gullible people are. (even in light of a rational explanation) Believing something just because they saw it on TV. See the "master jo" segment on Ripleys for another example
Unless you're deliberately lying again, no. The very same description says you edited a video to make the guy look real, as if he passed the test.
"the whole point of the editing was to show how gullible people are"
The only thing you demonstrated is that you can lie to people. Hope you're proud of yourself. Ever think if you may have actually helped this fraudster in doing so?..
no, i edited the video, so the parts exposing him were not shown... HUGE difference! and you know what? MY video was featured on an investigative tv show exposing this guy... you know what happened? NOTHING! people STILL continue to believe this guy is legit despite him not showing evidence, despite my video (james randi's) exposing him as a fraud
"Ever think if you may have actually helped this fraudster in doing so?"
wow you're a fucking idiot. read through the comments here
And you are simply not a skeptic with this attitude.
Violent reaction to corrections is most characteristic of delusion, a skeptic would have since long learned to politely discuss the matter and admit to being wrong if he were.
Unfortunately that's the brand of "skepticism" Randi and company have unwittingly promoted. Carl Sagan is probably rolling in his grave right now... Figuratively speaking.
@lennyhipp "even in light of a rational explanation"
Try delusional explanation.
You deliberately lied to people, you forged evidence. And then you barge in and expect them to trust a baseless claim instead?
This is what makes the endeavor so ironic: you have put both skepticism and fraud on opposite sides of the fence from where they were in the debate. You're now a fraud, and you expect people to take on your explanation without applying skepticism...
"You deliberately lied to people, you forged evidence"
bullshit, i edited out the exposure. i left in the parts where idiots (like you) would take something on faith simply because they saw it on video. the whole point of the experiment was to show that things aren't always as they seem. That because someone says they were tested, DOES NOT mean they were tested properly
"you expect people to take on your explanation without applying skepticism"
@lennyhipp "the whole point of the experiment was to show that things aren't always as they seem"
Your "experiment" was nothing but lying to people.
The only thing you've proven is that you can lie to people, and some will believe you. What you did afterwards, however, was sheer hypocrisy. That's a dirty trick at best, and abhorrent at worst.
"bullshit! it's encouraging skepticism you moron!"
You're encouraging skepticism by calling me names anyone who dare be skeptical of your methods?..
@lennyhipp "bullshit! it's encouraging skepticism you moron!"
True words of encouragement, by the way. You must have a lot of people on your side with that attitude. ;)
The irony is, if you were indeed encouraging skepticism in any way, you would never expect people to believe what you said to begin with. You did the opposite, and so the opposite of encouraging skepticism.
"if he lied then he is disgraceful to the other faith healer.."
There's no evidence that ANYONE has EVER healed someone else. ALL faith healers are disgraceful and belong in jail.
" the best way is to invite the person to the show"
no, the best way is to get him into a controlled environment, remove all chance of bias, and do double blind tests. good luck getting him to agree to that! what they did here is 2nd best way
if you invited him, he probably would have a backup to the slippers
this guy is a complete liar..fool ppl, take their money, n he lives in a big house with lots of illegal money..and d most hated part is he used religion to complete his trick..this guy is completely a jerk!!
Stupid indian, putar alam! Dari kedai mamak sampai la ke pusat cakra padat oops cakra alam, semua kaki putar! MACHA DEYY PENIPU YADEYYY SMELLY BLACK DICK!
@faddy161285 ahhhhhh. yes. i've seen that. i liked it, but i've always loved magic... and part of me didn't want to know how it's done. it ruins it for me, more fun trying to figure it out. That said, most of the time i figure out the first time i see it as I've been around a while and know techniques for diversion and sleight of hand.
guys think about it, he takes charge to treat people while he is cheating.. the money obviously HARAM.. somebody should take action to these guys and sue them.. it is very rude n no manner when people seek their skills to get heal/cure instead of enjoying the show. what happen if the patitent die in a first place? doesnt this bloody hell think about it? he gave his family eat with that money.. i wonder where is his phylosophy..
@gamrage ..and apparently the trick he was most secretive about... what's up with that? it's the one that you can look at and know right away what is going on without having to figure out how they did it. strange.
cool the guy had some kind of resonant circuit on him, allowing him to light up flourecent tubes, if he made a lamp that was connected to an avromenko plug he could illumnate it too.
what.what.what. lenny of coz camera not real.... not illusion n trick to master arief....coz magic real...lenny give up in cakraalam...belajar pun tak berjaya
Sweetheart, dont be so gullible! Dont come on here making the claim there are genuine ones without providing the evidence to back such a nonsensical claim.
Also, hate to burst your bubble of ignorance, but there's no such thing as genuine magic, nor elves. Please STOP encouraging such absolute nonsense... The world has enough dumb people already, it doen't need you making new ones!
i agree with u man.theres no such thing as superstition.we'll only suffer because of it.this korean is very intelligent.we should be scientific thinking.leave all these power2 things,its a huge embarassment .
and yet many malays still believe in bomoh n pawang etc while they claim to believe in God also.i really hate and feel very2 disgusted by my people's superstitious belief!
it's sad, but there's people like this asshole in ALL cultures. where ever there is desperate or gullible people you will find charlatans like him trying to take their money! disgusting
what........!!!lennyhipp CAKRAALAM is REAL...REAL....REAL.... YOU BELIEVE....NOT MAGIC TRICK.....NOT VERY MAGIC TRICK.....SECRET POWER MASTER AREF TO MEDITATION.....YOU SEE AGAIN DEMONSTRATION TO MASTER AREF....GIVE CAMARE ALL TRICK......
hello lenny..firstly,i'm a newbie here..and PLEASE correct me if my english is bad. would like to thank u for exposing this (and those videos of yours) kind of matters. i do enjoy having a discussion especially with anyone who's not having the same thinking as me. i am a god believer(wonder what is the perfect word for this). regarding on your reply to 'who's that someone' about the evidence of god existence,just wanna share my opinion..initial: i believe in pain because i can feel the pain..
ala.. korang dh kene tipu ngan kamere orang korea tuh....ko smue x payah nak buat fitnah kat youtube....serupe korang nie budak 3 suku....camera fool and poeple korean fool...fool...fool!!!
the only fools are the ones who think guys doing carny magic tricks like these actually have these powers or think someone is capable of healing anyone. the korean program exposed this charlatan as a fraud and charlatan and showed him stealing money from the innocent, the gullible, and the desperate. the asshole belongs in jail.
cakra alam tahi kuching.... nak jadi dragon ball son goko ker ape ?? kalo tenaga batin btul.... mesti org tak buat untuk show off.. dier org diam dan tak show kuat
being said that i do not believe that they have any power nor do i believe it can heal and reader should not believe it can heal too, just to correct the fact that this is a real thing but the one perform by this indian healer is fake too much redness,usually there is some small red spot there
you have just made a claim, are you prepared to back it up with evidence? if so, your healer friend is eligible to claim the JREF million dollar prize. Why dont you phone her up and ask her to take the challenge?
I have seen my family doing this egg heal, it is our tradition there is no trickery because she perform this not for money,for healing purpose of her own family, and i think i have seen it with my own eye there is some redness inside there, mind you that its maybe some jinn or something involve but this actually real healing tradition.
advertia, EVERYONE claiming to heal people like this are charlatans. it's quite simply not possible to heal someone like this, and if they're not doing it for money doesnt make it any less fake, sorry. There is ZERO evidence that anyone has EVER been healed using this technique
a lot of people use that egg-thing technique for healing purpose.you can always try looking for those at malaysia or other country,and make research about it. it is really true. and there are other thing more miraculous than the egg,maybe. there, will got the evidence. usually it s about healing somebody who are possessed by jinn. ayah of al quran can be use.
it is really true they make the claims about the egg, or it is really true they heal people with the egg? because what part of the video where they expose it as an old carny trick didn't you comprehend!? there has NEVER been evidence of an actual miracle, sorry to burst your bubble. If you could provide evidence for healings or miracles, you'd be a very rich man indeed!
i NEVER did impose anything, i'm merely stating facts: ANYONE claiming to heal someone through laying on of hand or thru spiritual energy, is a charlatan scam artist. I am simply warning people. Also, i NEVER ONCE used the word proof as proofs do not exist outside mathematics.
2)OPEN YOUR EYES. this charlatan was exposed. How could you possibly deny the obvious?
3) ANYONE claiming powers, claiming to project energy, claiming to heal others by prayer or by touch, NEEDS to be examined thoroughly and to be made to prove their claims.
EVERY SINGLE TIME these charlatans have been properly tested, they've failed miserably. WHY do you suppose that is so?!
also,,, most people who are being cheated by these type of people are uneducated poor people who dont know better, i get sick when i see these type of scammer drive around in mercedes from the money of people working hard that cannot afford proper treatments...and i bet this guy would charge alot too!!! assholesss!aaargggh hahahaha sorry got a bit emotional hehe ^_^
he steal money from people who doesnt know its only a trick duuuh ...its called scam , he doesnt have to kill anyone for it to be a crime!!!! maan some people i swear are soo damn stupid! understandpokka??? let me say it in malay, penipuan!!! pencuri uang pencuri duit harus masuk penjara mengerti??!!
hmm..i think something cheat in this vid..why the selipers is scaned without the owner using it? and why vid of owner's foot is seperate from the real vid? huhu
tunggang langgang ke? haha tq sbb menegor..=) Aku dah tgk dah vid tu..dan aku rasa konpius skrg nih..tapi mcm cakra alam je penipu..hahaha..mana2laa..yg pentng aku x penah kena tipu..and satu lagi..harap suma org tak kena tipu lg..hehe
satu lagi..aku bukan org cakra alam daa...aku buat pendapat sendiri jee..rasanya kalo org korea tuu scan waktu arief guna selipar tu lagi ok kot..nampak laa arief tuu betul2 penipu..haha
eeer kon obviously you're dumb lol he said he didnt want to be scanned!! they knew it was the slipper cause they saw him lifting his feet up everytime the light came on, soo they would have to scan the slipper when he's not using it becaseu he would flip out and not let them take footage anymore duuuuuh ...see lennyhip how ignorant people are..they still believe this guy is for real!! also if they film at his feet when he was doing all that stuff he would not do it maan use your head for once!
^_^ kon soory for being rude and saying you're stupid, i was kind of emotional cause i knew someone who was sick and got more sicker because instead of going to hospital he went to another doctor like this arief person. my apologizes, and i do understand what you meant but im strongly against these type of scammer because they are messing with peoples lives, and yeah the thing is its hard to prove these guys are fake cause people believe htem so much it makes them like god,thats what i hate most
Nvmd..=) I understand ure feeling coz i got experience too with a fake "tabib"..huhu But now,thank God coz my sister became fully recovered with the help from a honest ustz...
for me whats best is first you go to the doctor,then if the doctor doesnt know what is really happening just go to the traditional healer. 1 liar healer doesnt mean all healer are liar.I believe both.
@DARKKANCIL it's VERY dangerous to give people the advice to go to a traditional "healer" because there is ZERO empirical evidence any of these people have done ANY actual healing. see whatstheharmDOTnet for many examples of why you just gave some very bad advice. sure, 1 liar doesnt mean they all lie... i'm still waiting for evidence that even JUST ONE isn't lying, and so far the evidence is severely lacking
ok.now.if you are sick and hardly to move.You go to the doctor but the doctor say you are fine. What you will do? You the one that feel the pain but every doctor you found said nothing wrong with you? Will you just keep the pain?
no, of COURSE NOT! I would do the ONLY sensible thing to do: Seek out a specialist. I'm smart enough to know there's always someone out there if you look hard enough, and you don't have to put your life at risk by visiting a charlatan "healer". Also, if you are sick and can barely move, there's not a legit doctor in the world that would say you're fine. They might not know exactly what's wrong, but they're not gonna say there's nothing wrong!
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SilatBegin 5 months ago
@SilatBegin <-----removed his comment. This is what he said:
"stupid korean... how about dis : /watch?v=QtbC9sngQYo"
it's not the koreans that are stupid... they aired the film clips of the con man being exposed. what's stupid is the people believing crap like this exists. How ironic to put down someone else while looking so uneducated for using a non-word like "dis"
BTW, the video he linked to is the same lying con man hiding the electric devices somewhere other than his shoe!
lennyhipp 5 months ago
I like this guy....I'm a Christian but I like honesty and I love the Truth
I21GenieLee 6 months ago
placebo effect
Marcbendini 7 months ago in playlist tipu
where can i get those slippers???
malmsteen2002 8 months ago
@malmsteen2002 there's articles online where you can make them... but if you dont know what you're doing, it could be dangerous. do a google search for "Electric Touch By Yigal Mesika" or see watch?v=_Vowx9r-Nso
lennyhipp 8 months ago
@malmsteen2002 or for another one, google "pikashoes" it's a LOT cheaper, but doesn't look nearly as safe!
lennyhipp 8 months ago
OMG I am ashamed of him. I don't even know about him. Ok I'm Malaysian Sarawakian,therefore not everyone is the same. But he's plainly stupid
impersonate11 10 months ago
is a magic trick. some other call Healing Universal Energy those people can make you feel good for a while with those energy but leter you might get sick or you had trouble with your family life.
samquan123 1 year ago
please answer me. where to buy those sandal? at least give me ebay link :D
Exitachy 1 year ago
@Exitachy watch?v=_Vowx9r-Nso
it's not cheap: magicgeek. com/electric-touch-311. html
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@BosnianReality your comment is irrelevant. thanks for playing.
lennyhipp 1 year ago
When a Faith Healer fails to help the patient, they will use the excuse that the patients faith is not strong enough. Jesus and the Apostles raised several from the dead. Did those dead people have any faith at all? Or are the dead conscious of nothing?
When money is involved, there should always be questions raised.
DonnieEugeneReed 1 year ago
@DonnieEugeneReed "Jesus and the Apostles raised several from the dead. Did those dead people have any faith at all? Or are the dead conscious of nothing?"
CORRECTION. the bible claims jesus and the apostles raised several from the dead. none of it's verified to be true. the bible makes MANY claims we know for sure isn't true. many failed prophecies and many known errors.
the rest of what you said makes sense.
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp The claims are verified by historical findings. When they raised the dead, there was many witnesses to verify that it did actually happen. This can also be found in historical documents outside of the Bible as well. There are many who use the bible to benefit themselves (false profits) but those will be found out as according to prophecy. Modern day prophecy will be spoken but true prophecy ended in Jesus time. All claiming to be modern prophets are fake according to Bible. No error
DonnieEugeneReed 1 year ago
"The claims are verified by historical findings"
argument from ignorance. they are not.
"When they raised the dead, there was many witnesses to verify that it did actually happen"
Circular logic. these eyewitnesses are mentioned ONLY in the bible. you cannot use the bible to prove the bible is true. Also, the oldest known copies of your bible (Codex Siniaticus) DONT mention jesus at all after the supposed resurrection. Hmmmmm. WHY was this info inserted into later editions of the bible?
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@DonnieEugeneReed (false profits)
Freudian slip for false prophet? funny, because the church is so tied into money it's laughable.
"but true prophecy ended in Jesus time"
"true" prophecy? you mean like where it predicts Demascus will be in ruins and never rebuilt? Like when it says the Nile river will dry up? Like where it says Abraham's descendents will be as plentiful as the stars? (the buy bull is several hundred trillion off here bud!) Like when it calls the moon a source of light? TWICE?!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@DonnieEugene sorry to burst your bubble of delusion, but there's nothing verified about your bible. it's riddled with MORE THAN 2K errors, inconsistencies and contradictions. It contains some of the most absurd fairy tales in all of fiction: multiple resurrections, a virgin birth, a global flood that could NOT have happened, talking snakes, unicorns, dragons, and living in the belly of a whale for three days just to name just a few of the more ridiculous things! Also, eyewitnesses = unreliable
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp The Bible is not a scientific book but it confirms new findings by scientist. The world is round and it is hanging on nothing, just like the bible says. Prophesy has shown that Jesus is the true Messiah. The odds of that happening are even greater than someone believing in evolution.
Detail of the human body and perfect alignment of the planets is proof of a creator. Also shown in science is the details of each human body having details down in writing. DNA builds, repairs, copies
DonnieEugeneReed 1 year ago
@DonnieEugeneReed " it confirms new findings by scientist"
one of the more ridiculous claims i've EVER heard. this i gotta hear! give me some examples! the goat herders who wrote the bible were so ignorant of science they called the bat a bird, said rabbits chew cud, claimed plants existed before sunlight, that pi=3, that the moon is a light source, claimed a global flood happened, and MANY OTHER things we know now aren't true
lennyhipp 1 year ago
"he world is round and it is hanging on nothing"
idiot, the hebrew word used means CIRCLE not round... the buy bull ALSO says the earth is fixed and immovable... and fixed on a foundation. NEITHER one is true, is it? in fact, the bible implies a flat earth no less than FORTY times!
"Prophesy has shown that Jesus is the true Messiah"
let's rehearse some indisputable facts here:
1) You CANNOT use the bible to prove the bible!
2) there are ZERO prophecies in the bible that aren't self-fulfilling!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
(cont)
3) There are VERY FEW books out side the bible that mention jesus, and what's more telling is the MANY better known historians of the period that DO NOT mention him!
4) EVEN IF it were ever proven that someone named Jesus DID exist, there's still ZERO evidence he was a messiah, that he ever performed a miracle, or that he was raised from the dead! NONE!!
"someone believing in evolution"
now i know you're clueless. evolution is a fact and doesnt require beliefs. it's been shown to happen
lennyhipp 1 year ago
"Detail of the human body"
let's talk about the human body. your god is such a crap engineer he made our eyes focus upside down, he made us with weak backs and knees, and mouths too small for our teeth and 70% of us need corrective lenses! NONE of this is explained by a perfect creator, but ALL is shown to have happened by evolution. Rationally explain fused chromosome #2 in humans. it ONLY makes sense thru evolution!
"perfect alignment of the planets"
you're INSANE! what's perfect about them?
lennyhipp 1 year ago
DNA repairs and copies? yeah, it's called MUTATIONS because they're IMPERFECT copies! Explained NOT by a perfect creator, but through evolution! Thanks to DNA, we can actually count the # of mutations! see the vid "Big Numbers: a Concept Creationists Don't Understand"
what about Endogenous Retro Viruses? slam dunk evidence evolution happened! see "Evidence for Evolution, Part III"
You fail miserably!
perfect alignment of planets? 99.99^200% of the universe is uninhabitable to us! WOW!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
dah ko nak bg naik rancangan ko .........
Leo2ne1 1 year ago
bidibidibidibidibidibidibidib... sandal ajaib! 8P
titodelibero 1 year ago
This Randi guy is amazing
chadar318 1 year ago
i never believed this kind of shit since the first day i learn about science lmao!!
wefsaf33 1 year ago
hahhaa..best men dota dr tgk ne :D
manokbrand 1 year ago
big fat liar....
keepitmetalable 1 year ago
thanks korea for making malaysia one less big cheater!!!
faiezzz 1 year ago 2
@faiezzz sadly this didnt shut him down! he's still in business!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp no.. his shop is closed..even his official website is already closed..people already kno the truth..its quite funny when he giving an excuse to use the ayam kampung egg..because the ayam kampung egg is small...and even he used the normal egg..hehe..
faiezzz 1 year ago
@faiezzz "his shop is closed"
are you sure!? it's great news indeed if it is! but i was told from a malaysian friend that it was still open. you have just made my day!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
indian always a liar afterall
radioburukbunyisedap 1 year ago
3:59 looks weird lol
zulukydd 1 year ago
thx for those who are exposed this.im malaysian, and im vry.. vry.. vry shy 2 all the world. this "ustaz" make malaysia noob!
bikin malu!!
hantu64 1 year ago
@hantu64 ahahha...noob betol...bek men dota
keepitmetalable 1 year ago
mmg penipu pon cakra alam nie..rmai bomoh2 di malaysia kt die penipu..nk mkn duit je lebih..
crewz69 1 year ago
this human is not malay....
but this human from india and stay in malaysia....
and buat buat taik plak ko kat cni keling....
oneflyerz 1 year ago
Uh... Dude?
"Can you guess what happened? Quite a few of them argued with me!"
Yes, someone walks in on and tells that it's a trick... Without proof (unlike what Randi did)... And you expect everyone to swallow it?
Hello? What would you do if someone commented on a skeptical video saying it's not true in the same manner?
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@SexyMelon
I don't get it. Where did that quote come from? i don't see it anywhere here in the comments. Please explain.
"What would you do if someone commented on a skeptical video saying it's not true in the same manner?"
I'd demand to see their evidence for their claim and deal with it. WHY would it matter what kind of video it was? I'm asking for empirical evidence to back claims.
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "I don't get it. Where did that quote come from?"
Video description.
"I'd demand to see their evidence for their claim and deal with it."
Precisely.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@SexyMelon "@lennyhipp "I don't get it. Where did that quote come from?"
"Video description."
ahhhhhh. you see how important context is?! NOW it makes sense.
"I'd demand to see their evidence for their claim and deal with it."
"Precisely."
Don't see what you're getting at. the onus of evidence is ALWAYS on the one making the claim!
"Without proof (unlike what Randi did)... And you expect everyone to swallow it?"
see onus of evidence above. BTW, what randi did was NOT proving anything.
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "Don't see what you're getting at. the onus of evidence is ALWAYS on the one making the claim!"
If someone's making the claim guy X is real, the burden is on them. If someone's making a claim he's a fraud, the burden is on them likewise.
You would criticize people for commenting on a video trying to defend a fraud without proof... But yet you were doing the exact same thing.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@SexyMelon "If someone's making a claim he's a fraud, the burden is on them likewise."
no. the burden of proof is ALWAYS the one making the claim. The claim is NOT "i claim he's a fraud" it's "He MUST prove he's legit" it's NEVER up to me to prove he's a fraud. person A makes the claim he has a sandwich that cures cancer. Person B calls him a liar. According to your twisted logic, it is up to person B to prove he's a liar?! Sorry, you couldn't be more wrong.
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "the burden of proof is ALWAYS the one making the claim"
And if you claim he's a fraud, the burden is on you to prove it.
If you don't think you have to prove anything when asserting something, well, that's just hypocrisy.
"According to your twisted logic, it is up to person B to prove he's a liar?!"
That "twisted logic" is called "burden of proof". Using it against your opponent but refusing to apply it to your own argument is a hypocrisy.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
"And if you claim he's a fraud, the burden is on you to prove it"
bullshit. i gave you an example of why the burden isn't on me. If i claimed to have a 10,000 headed purple leprechaun in a box under my bed, and the pope said "bullshit", by your twisted logic, it's up to the pope to prove it's bullshit?! You're clearly not thinking, or simply don't know what "burden of proof" means.
your statement about hypocrisy shows how you lack critical thinking skills. the claim is NOT mine!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "bullshit. i gave you an example of why the burden isn't on me."
And your example is stupid: if you're calling someone a liar, OF COURSE the burden of proof is on you to prove it.
"If i claimed to have a 10,000 headed purple leprechaun in a box under my bed, and the pope said "bullshit", by your twisted logic, it's up to the pope to prove it's bullshit?!"
Pipe down. This didn't even make any sense.
Can't you acknowledge a simple mistake?
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "your statement about hypocrisy shows how you lack critical thinking skills"
Clearly I have better critical thinking skills if I criticize people for fallacious arguments regardless of their allegiance. ;)
No, you have to prove someone else is a fraud just like they have to prove they're not. Anything else is a double standard, a hypocrisy, and would never be employed by a skeptic.
You can't expect people to take what you say on faith while arguing against that exact thing.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@lennyhipp It is on you. Are you saying he is a fraud? Are you defining him as a person who commits fraudulent actions? You would need to prove that.
You two are fighting for a semantic reason it would seem. I'm pretty sure you mean "he is a fraud" in the COLLOQUIAL sense. Not as absolute statement of fact, but as an assumption from previous experience.
I doubt you are dealing with absolute certainty at all. But if you are, then I would say your reasoning is wrong.
latuman 1 year ago
@latuman "Are you saying he is a fraud?"
big fat emphatic YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
" Are you defining him as a person who commits fraudulent actions?"
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"You would need to prove that"
exhibit A: watch the damn video
"Not as absolute statement of fact, but as an assumption from previous experience"
Are you trying to get me to say he was shown to be a fraud THIS time, but it's still possible he has these powers? I'll call him a fraud until he shows otherwise.
lennyhipp 1 year ago 2
@lennyhipp Randi does not usually say person X is a fraud. He cannot prove that. However he can show how these feats are performed with trickery. Until supernatural powers are displayed, no-one should have any reason to believe they exist. Thats not the same as saying they dont exist.
latuman 1 year ago
@latuman can you can say "the sun will come up tomorrow" ?????
can you be 100% certain of it?
Same way that i'm saying it. I'm as certain of it as i've been certain about anything in my life... how's that?
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@SexyMelon "You would criticize people for commenting on a video trying to defend a fraud without proof... But yet you were doing the exact same thing."
I wasn't. You're insane. it's not the same thing at all.
Also, i would never demand proof as proofs dont exist outside the maths... I'm demanding evidence.
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "I wasn't. You're insane. it's not the same thing at all."
Anger, denial... Time to cross into acceptance already, no?
You don't think it's okay for people to just believe the guy on faith, yet at the same time you find it weird they don't believe yourself on faith?
What you've done is ludicrous. You deliberately fooled people and yet you're criticizing you when they're doing so backed up by your own lies.
A joke is one thing. This is just silly and self-serving.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
Anger? it's not anger, it's contempt and pity
"yet at the same time you find it weird they don't believe yourself on faith?"
you missed the entire point of the experiment. i suggest you go watch it and read the comments
"You deliberately fooled people"
bullshit. i gave an example of how easily people are fooled. look at my other "the real magic?" videos. the original was up over a year, people were swearing to know the guy, swearing he was legit, until someone sent me the vids exposing him!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "Anger? it's not anger, it's contempt and pity"
You're very bad at hiding it, you'll be in a lot of trouble if you ever run into trolls.
"you missed the entire point of the experiment"
Enlighten me then?
"i gave an example of how easily people are fooled"
Yes. And being a liar is nothing to be proud of.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@lennyhipp It's very ironic, actually, since you behaved exactly like you thought those who responded to you did: while you thought people were defending a false claim contrary to solid evidence staring them right in the face, to them you were doing the exact same thing, actually announcing he's a fraud contrary to solid evidence staring you right in the face (edited to be so by your own hand).
Basically... You've edited a video designed to fool people and are surprised it actually fooled them.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
"You've edited a video designed to fool people and are surprised it actually fooled them."
NONSENSE! I wasn't surprised. i knew in advance exactly what would happen! WHY ELSE would i have done it in the first place!? DUH!
"edited to be so by your own hand"
Irrelevant. the whole point of the editing was to show how gullible people are. (even in light of a rational explanation) Believing something just because they saw it on TV. See the "master jo" segment on Ripleys for another example
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "NONSENSE!"
Unless you're deliberately lying again, no. The very same description says you edited a video to make the guy look real, as if he passed the test.
"the whole point of the editing was to show how gullible people are"
The only thing you demonstrated is that you can lie to people. Hope you're proud of yourself. Ever think if you may have actually helped this fraudster in doing so?..
SexyMelon 1 year ago
no, i edited the video, so the parts exposing him were not shown... HUGE difference! and you know what? MY video was featured on an investigative tv show exposing this guy... you know what happened? NOTHING! people STILL continue to believe this guy is legit despite him not showing evidence, despite my video (james randi's) exposing him as a fraud
"Ever think if you may have actually helped this fraudster in doing so?"
wow you're a fucking idiot. read through the comments here
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "no, i edited the video, so the parts exposing him were not shown... HUGE difference!"
That's called "lie by omission". It's a very bold-faced lie.
"people STILL continue to believe this guy is legit despite him not showing evidence, despite my video (james randi's) exposing him as a fraud"
Whoopdie-doo. That's not what my post or this discussion is about.
It's about your faults, not that of others. Two wrongs don't make a right.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "wow you're a fucking idiot"
And you are simply not a skeptic with this attitude.
Violent reaction to corrections is most characteristic of delusion, a skeptic would have since long learned to politely discuss the matter and admit to being wrong if he were.
Unfortunately that's the brand of "skepticism" Randi and company have unwittingly promoted. Carl Sagan is probably rolling in his grave right now... Figuratively speaking.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "even in light of a rational explanation"
Try delusional explanation.
You deliberately lied to people, you forged evidence. And then you barge in and expect them to trust a baseless claim instead?
This is what makes the endeavor so ironic: you have put both skepticism and fraud on opposite sides of the fence from where they were in the debate. You're now a fraud, and you expect people to take on your explanation without applying skepticism...
SexyMelon 1 year ago
"You deliberately lied to people, you forged evidence"
bullshit, i edited out the exposure. i left in the parts where idiots (like you) would take something on faith simply because they saw it on video. the whole point of the experiment was to show that things aren't always as they seem. That because someone says they were tested, DOES NOT mean they were tested properly
"you expect people to take on your explanation without applying skepticism"
bullshit! it's encouraging skepticism you moron!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "the whole point of the experiment was to show that things aren't always as they seem"
Your "experiment" was nothing but lying to people.
The only thing you've proven is that you can lie to people, and some will believe you. What you did afterwards, however, was sheer hypocrisy. That's a dirty trick at best, and abhorrent at worst.
"bullshit! it's encouraging skepticism you moron!"
You're encouraging skepticism by calling me names anyone who dare be skeptical of your methods?..
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@lennyhipp "bullshit! it's encouraging skepticism you moron!"
True words of encouragement, by the way. You must have a lot of people on your side with that attitude. ;)
The irony is, if you were indeed encouraging skepticism in any way, you would never expect people to believe what you said to begin with. You did the opposite, and so the opposite of encouraging skepticism.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
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sifu86 1 year ago
"if he lied then he is disgraceful to the other faith healer.."
There's no evidence that ANYONE has EVER healed someone else. ALL faith healers are disgraceful and belong in jail.
" the best way is to invite the person to the show"
no, the best way is to get him into a controlled environment, remove all chance of bias, and do double blind tests. good luck getting him to agree to that! what they did here is 2nd best way
if you invited him, he probably would have a backup to the slippers
lennyhipp 1 year ago
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sifu86 1 year ago
this guy is a complete liar..fool ppl, take their money, n he lives in a big house with lots of illegal money..and d most hated part is he used religion to complete his trick..this guy is completely a jerk!!
ActOnInstinct 1 year ago
hahaha .. the guy whos under the table was givving a blowjob to somone :D
petj0n 1 year ago
Rofl! Owned
MadPropzBaller 1 year ago
Stupid indian, putar alam! Dari kedai mamak sampai la ke pusat cakra padat oops cakra alam, semua kaki putar! MACHA DEYY PENIPU YADEYYY SMELLY BLACK DICK!
izaham92 1 year ago
Breaking the magician code.
faddy161285 1 year ago
@faddy161285 sometimes it's necessary
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp Yeah, i was referring to a show. Check it out. Breaking the magician code.
faddy161285 1 year ago
@faddy161285 ahhhhhh. yes. i've seen that. i liked it, but i've always loved magic... and part of me didn't want to know how it's done. it ruins it for me, more fun trying to figure it out. That said, most of the time i figure out the first time i see it as I've been around a while and know techniques for diversion and sleight of hand.
lennyhipp 1 year ago
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a disgrace to my race.
xharisxkerascorex 1 year ago
I love the audience reactions.
chrisofnottingham 1 year ago
guys think about it, he takes charge to treat people while he is cheating.. the money obviously HARAM.. somebody should take action to these guys and sue them.. it is very rude n no manner when people seek their skills to get heal/cure instead of enjoying the show. what happen if the patitent die in a first place? doesnt this bloody hell think about it? he gave his family eat with that money.. i wonder where is his phylosophy..
lansie88 1 year ago
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!
pregele29 1 year ago
Every magician knows about flash paper, apparently it's the one they were the most surprised about..
gamrage 1 year ago
@gamrage ..and apparently the trick he was most secretive about... what's up with that? it's the one that you can look at and know right away what is going on without having to figure out how they did it. strange.
lennyhipp 1 year ago
hahhahhahhaa..
johnmotorfix 1 year ago
Seems legit to me.
soggycardboardbox 1 year ago
Score another one for The Amazing Randi!
thunderstruck665 1 year ago
James Randi is ownage
lehman 2 years ago 2
Randi FTW!
spudw2k 1 year ago
Meh sini aku kepit telinga ko pakai plier..tengok apa jadi..
lenjanify 2 years ago
Arif..ko patut jadi ketua rombongan sarkis Malaysia..
lenjanify 2 years ago
suruh james randi kepit tangan dia kuat2 aku rasa dia tak boleh buat macam ustaz arif buat.
johan3720 2 years ago
saya harap ustaz tabah hadapi dugaan,dalam dunia yang fana ni memang banyak dugaan,manusia memang tak trelepas dari hasad dengki dan bisikan syitan.
johan3720 2 years ago
cakra memang wujud dalam tubuh manusia cuma kita tak tau sebab tak pernah belajar.
johan3720 2 years ago
ada masa dia buat demo tak pakai selipar? orang korea memang dah lama dengki ngan malaysia.
johan3720 2 years ago
mat salleh kalo tk tahu alem ghaib buang masa...chara buat dia sindih org dan org malaysia...mat saleh bodow..dgr chara dia berbual memang kuang ajar
sufi18nyb 2 years ago
memang betul mamak ni penipu...kat Indon sana dia belajar sulap mata..balik nipu orang Malaysia
lenjanify 2 years ago
weh mamak pudekang..bangsa hgpa ni suka tipu owang noh???aku makan kat kdai mamak pun cekik darah,ni jadi bomoh pun nak kencing jugak baruwa...
karlx85 2 years ago
@pioneerRemedy gampang ka kapir..
dy mmg dlahirkan bodoh..jgn kait ngan islam..
amin29392 2 years ago
dasar anjing penipu,keneraka lah engkau
ali12345is 2 years ago
cool the guy had some kind of resonant circuit on him, allowing him to light up flourecent tubes, if he made a lamp that was connected to an avromenko plug he could illumnate it too.
MasterTxJ 2 years ago
dah mamak !! dari restoren ke org mmg kencing!!
samsulghau 2 years ago
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this is wat islam teaches.. wakakaka
PioneerRemedy 2 years ago
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this is wat islam teaches.. wakakaka
PioneerRemedy 2 years ago
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this is wat islam teaches.. wakakaka
PioneerRemedy 2 years ago
aduh malunya aku.......!!!!!woi arif baik ko g negare lain la...
aril86 2 years ago
kalau dh keturuman k****g 2..k****g la jgk..lidah bercabang...putar kuat....
aril86 2 years ago
kencing punye mamak!!!
memalukan Malaysia jek!!..
oktizarvia 2 years ago
Kalau arif tu betul.. mesti dia boleh sediakan diri utk buktikan dia betul... tapi dia tak berani.. sah2 tipu... hahahahhaa
crashemall2002 2 years ago
randi you rule
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
Buat malu Malaysia je..........Macam sial
frilink 2 years ago
alahai..trik bodo Mat Arif ni...
lenjanify 2 years ago
that s why they call it the AMAZING RANDI
konomysss 2 years ago
But Really Not All Malaysian Stupid....huhuuuuuu...
Korang Dengar Lah Mat Salleh Tu Cakap..... "The Man Now Getting Very Wealthy... Because He Takin Money From People Who Dont Know About This Thing..."
Maluuuu....uuuuuuu
milli3370 2 years ago
keling mamak india pundek yilek
kakitebo 2 years ago
what.what.what. lenny of coz camera not real.... not illusion n trick to master arief....coz magic real...lenny give up in cakraalam...belajar pun tak berjaya
saintisman406 2 years ago
Where ever they are also chalatans. But there are also genuine ones.
If you want to know more about real bomohs who politicians and businessmen consult, visit my blog. Check my profile here.
mandylow25 2 years ago
Sweetheart, dont be so gullible! Dont come on here making the claim there are genuine ones without providing the evidence to back such a nonsensical claim.
Also, hate to burst your bubble of ignorance, but there's no such thing as genuine magic, nor elves. Please STOP encouraging such absolute nonsense... The world has enough dumb people already, it doen't need you making new ones!
lennyhipp 2 years ago
i agree with u man.theres no such thing as superstition.we'll only suffer because of it.this korean is very intelligent.we should be scientific thinking.leave all these power2 things,its a huge embarassment .
khairuleven 2 years ago
and yet many malays still believe in bomoh n pawang etc while they claim to believe in God also.i really hate and feel very2 disgusted by my people's superstitious belief!
khairuleven 2 years ago
it's sad, but there's people like this asshole in ALL cultures. where ever there is desperate or gullible people you will find charlatans like him trying to take their money! disgusting
lennyhipp 2 years ago
what........!!!lennyhipp CAKRAALAM is REAL...REAL....REAL.... YOU BELIEVE....NOT MAGIC TRICK.....NOT VERY MAGIC TRICK.....SECRET POWER MASTER AREF TO MEDITATION.....YOU SEE AGAIN DEMONSTRATION TO MASTER AREF....GIVE CAMARE ALL TRICK......
saintisman406 2 years ago
saintisfictional- what video were YOU watching? This charlatan was caught scamming people. NOBODY has ever been shown to have these powers. Ever.
gila seperti seekor keldai
anda berhujah seperti seorang anak kecil
lennyhipp 2 years ago
hello lenny..firstly,i'm a newbie here..and PLEASE correct me if my english is bad. would like to thank u for exposing this (and those videos of yours) kind of matters. i do enjoy having a discussion especially with anyone who's not having the same thinking as me. i am a god believer(wonder what is the perfect word for this). regarding on your reply to 'who's that someone' about the evidence of god existence,just wanna share my opinion..initial: i believe in pain because i can feel the pain..
SuperNamat 2 years ago
ala.. korang dh kene tipu ngan kamere orang korea tuh....ko smue x payah nak buat fitnah kat youtube....serupe korang nie budak 3 suku....camera fool and poeple korean fool...fool...fool!!!
saintisman406 2 years ago
the only fools are the ones who think guys doing carny magic tricks like these actually have these powers or think someone is capable of healing anyone. the korean program exposed this charlatan as a fraud and charlatan and showed him stealing money from the innocent, the gullible, and the desperate. the asshole belongs in jail.
lennyhipp 2 years ago
mamak nie bohong la bai..jgnla taksub sgt
leochidori99 2 years ago
subhanallah......PEOPLE KOREA FOOL!!
saintisman406 2 years ago
uhhhhhh. i dont know what video you are watching buddy. there's no question about it: this guy was caught cheating, and scamming people.
lennyhipp 2 years ago
kalau betullah ape yg terbukti ni, bukan jer memalukan Mlaysia tp buat malu Islam jer..
MrMaluable 2 years ago
selipar tu xde lak org korea tu tunjuk ade button.... pelik gak aku.... pasal telur tu aku x nampak lak ade demo yg ustaz tu buat....
ddis112 2 years ago
saintisman406 = penyokong tetap USTAZ ARIEF. DIA OBSES MACAM ORANG GILA DAH. SAMPAI SANGGUP PM AKU. ADA HATI NAK BUNUH AKU. LU MANA MARI BAI?
punk3iz 2 years ago
cakra alam tahi kuching.... nak jadi dragon ball son goko ker ape ?? kalo tenaga batin btul.... mesti org tak buat untuk show off.. dier org diam dan tak show kuat
pollsayspaul 2 years ago
Religious retardation.
cujomade101 2 years ago
being said that i do not believe that they have any power nor do i believe it can heal and reader should not believe it can heal too, just to correct the fact that this is a real thing but the one perform by this indian healer is fake too much redness,usually there is some small red spot there
advertiva 2 years ago
you have just made a claim, are you prepared to back it up with evidence? if so, your healer friend is eligible to claim the JREF million dollar prize. Why dont you phone her up and ask her to take the challenge?
lennyhipp 2 years ago
I have seen my family doing this egg heal, it is our tradition there is no trickery because she perform this not for money,for healing purpose of her own family, and i think i have seen it with my own eye there is some redness inside there, mind you that its maybe some jinn or something involve but this actually real healing tradition.
advertiva 2 years ago
advertia, EVERYONE claiming to heal people like this are charlatans. it's quite simply not possible to heal someone like this, and if they're not doing it for money doesnt make it any less fake, sorry. There is ZERO evidence that anyone has EVER been healed using this technique
lennyhipp 2 years ago
a lot of people use that egg-thing technique for healing purpose.you can always try looking for those at malaysia or other country,and make research about it. it is really true. and there are other thing more miraculous than the egg,maybe. there, will got the evidence. usually it s about healing somebody who are possessed by jinn. ayah of al quran can be use.
MSAakram 2 years ago
it is really true they make the claims about the egg, or it is really true they heal people with the egg? because what part of the video where they expose it as an old carny trick didn't you comprehend!? there has NEVER been evidence of an actual miracle, sorry to burst your bubble. If you could provide evidence for healings or miracles, you'd be a very rich man indeed!
lennyhipp 2 years ago
your "unscientific proven phobia" should limit to yourself only please do not impose it to others
advertiva 2 years ago
i NEVER did impose anything, i'm merely stating facts: ANYONE claiming to heal someone through laying on of hand or thru spiritual energy, is a charlatan scam artist. I am simply warning people. Also, i NEVER ONCE used the word proof as proofs do not exist outside mathematics.
lennyhipp 2 years ago
@lennyhipp why you think she is a charlatan and doing this for money
advertiva 2 years ago
1)it's a HE not a she
2)OPEN YOUR EYES. this charlatan was exposed. How could you possibly deny the obvious?
3) ANYONE claiming powers, claiming to project energy, claiming to heal others by prayer or by touch, NEEDS to be examined thoroughly and to be made to prove their claims.
EVERY SINGLE TIME these charlatans have been properly tested, they've failed miserably. WHY do you suppose that is so?!
lennyhipp 2 years ago
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cbsim 2 years ago
haha baboo..
Neveah1ya 2 years ago
punya haram jadah penipu nie Cakra Mamak........
MCMXCgabs2nd 2 years ago 2
also,,, most people who are being cheated by these type of people are uneducated poor people who dont know better, i get sick when i see these type of scammer drive around in mercedes from the money of people working hard that cannot afford proper treatments...and i bet this guy would charge alot too!!! assholesss!aaargggh hahahaha sorry got a bit emotional hehe ^_^
drugyguy 2 years ago 5
knapa nk buktikan dia ni salah? ada dia bunuh sapa2 ker?
pokkatokbukit 2 years ago
he steal money from people who doesnt know its only a trick duuuh ...its called scam , he doesnt have to kill anyone for it to be a crime!!!! maan some people i swear are soo damn stupid! understandpokka??? let me say it in malay, penipuan!!! pencuri uang pencuri duit harus masuk penjara mengerti??!!
drugyguy 2 years ago
he is a liar. get the life dude!
che14887 2 years ago
hmm..i think something cheat in this vid..why the selipers is scaned without the owner using it? and why vid of owner's foot is seperate from the real vid? huhu
KonFridayz 2 years ago
hahaha...how typical!!! bahasa omputih pun tunggang langgang. Cakra Alam strikes back on youtube!!!
senang macam ni lah. tak payah sokong sapa2, dan tonton video jawapan cakra alam di rancangan 360 TV3. tonton dan nilaikan.
nolimitanggere 2 years ago
tunggang langgang ke? haha tq sbb menegor..=) Aku dah tgk dah vid tu..dan aku rasa konpius skrg nih..tapi mcm cakra alam je penipu..hahaha..mana2laa..yg pentng aku x penah kena tipu..and satu lagi..harap suma org tak kena tipu lg..hehe
KonFridayz 2 years ago 2
satu lagi..aku bukan org cakra alam daa...aku buat pendapat sendiri jee..rasanya kalo org korea tuu scan waktu arief guna selipar tu lagi ok kot..nampak laa arief tuu betul2 penipu..haha
KonFridayz 2 years ago
eeer kon obviously you're dumb lol he said he didnt want to be scanned!! they knew it was the slipper cause they saw him lifting his feet up everytime the light came on, soo they would have to scan the slipper when he's not using it becaseu he would flip out and not let them take footage anymore duuuuuh ...see lennyhip how ignorant people are..they still believe this guy is for real!! also if they film at his feet when he was doing all that stuff he would not do it maan use your head for once!
drugyguy 2 years ago
I dont say i believe in that guy..just I not a type of person that think bad to others..because of that Im still asking for the truth..huhu
However,now aku dah was2 dah ngan org tu sbb penjelasan ko..harap2 die betul2 laa penipu..xlaa aku bedosa sbb anggap die penipu..=)
KonFridayz 2 years ago
^_^ kon soory for being rude and saying you're stupid, i was kind of emotional cause i knew someone who was sick and got more sicker because instead of going to hospital he went to another doctor like this arief person. my apologizes, and i do understand what you meant but im strongly against these type of scammer because they are messing with peoples lives, and yeah the thing is its hard to prove these guys are fake cause people believe htem so much it makes them like god,thats what i hate most
drugyguy 2 years ago 2
Nvmd..=) I understand ure feeling coz i got experience too with a fake "tabib"..huhu But now,thank God coz my sister became fully recovered with the help from a honest ustz...
KonFridayz 2 years ago
@drugyguy
for me whats best is first you go to the doctor,then if the doctor doesnt know what is really happening just go to the traditional healer. 1 liar healer doesnt mean all healer are liar.I believe both.
DARKKANCIL 1 year ago
@DARKKANCIL it's VERY dangerous to give people the advice to go to a traditional "healer" because there is ZERO empirical evidence any of these people have done ANY actual healing. see whatstheharmDOTnet for many examples of why you just gave some very bad advice. sure, 1 liar doesnt mean they all lie... i'm still waiting for evidence that even JUST ONE isn't lying, and so far the evidence is severely lacking
lennyhipp 1 year ago
@lennyhipp
ok.now.if you are sick and hardly to move.You go to the doctor but the doctor say you are fine. What you will do? You the one that feel the pain but every doctor you found said nothing wrong with you? Will you just keep the pain?
DARKKANCIL 1 year ago
@DARKKANCIL
no, of COURSE NOT! I would do the ONLY sensible thing to do: Seek out a specialist. I'm smart enough to know there's always someone out there if you look hard enough, and you don't have to put your life at risk by visiting a charlatan "healer". Also, if you are sick and can barely move, there's not a legit doctor in the world that would say you're fine. They might not know exactly what's wrong, but they're not gonna say there's nothing wrong!
lennyhipp 1 year ago
bertaubat lah arif..sebelum kubur memanggil mu..malu lah arif pada bangsa kapiaq
radzi30 2 years ago
Subhanallah..
LuvAyun 2 years ago
.....
iknow this guy.
and he son is my friendd.
so sad to see this thing..
;(((
naimrawk 2 years ago
This is James Randi ... :)