Atheist tribe deconverts missionary [Sub Ita]

[beaujolais111]

Where is their Shaman, the tribe spiritual leader? Are there many tribes all over the world like this tribe, that lives without a shaman? I haven't researched the amazonian native tribes or others very much, so i'm no expert., far from it. And also, if shamans in the past did visit them, what did they do to shamans, were they friendly or hostile?

[kevinstanislawski]

This is an amazing video---thank you for sharing your story I really loved it. I am so terribly sorry your family turned out the way it did, it is a massive shame such things CAN come between loved ones...

[annonnimus1]

@kevinstanislawski Thanks for your comment, by the way I am not the subject of the video, I just released his great story. If you want know more, under the video I added some links about him !

[Catp00p]

@Mogley52 The irreducibly complex argument is no longer vaild. Science has shown how these things come to be. Your inability to understand how it works, does not invalidate the theory. But, if you really think you know anything, go ahead and submit your article for peer review. If you can actually disprove evolution, you'll win a Nobel.

[PhuqueUTube3]

@Mogley52 Obviously, you have no concept of how anything works. So, because you are too stupid to understand it, "god did it". That's far easier than thinking, isn't it? But that's how religion works, prey uppn the ignorant and gullible, then brainwash them into staying that way.

[annonnimus1]

11000 views ! thank you all !!

Don't stop sharing!

[tantomoriremotutti]

L'occidente è la maggiore potenzia mondiale. Ci crediamo intelligenti e spargiamo la nostra cultura come fosse oro colato.

Eppure basta un villaggio di pescatori sperduto nel nulla, per farci capire quanto siamo stati stupidi. Di tutte le religioni del mondo, il cristianesimo è la più stupida. Mi chiedo come sarebbe il mondo ora se questi indigeni avessero avuto la nostra stessa disponibilità economica.

Sicuramente migliore.

[KKCvids]

Imagine......an atheist world.... no more pedo priest...no more jihad and other atrocities agains the human race....

[Praiosrondra]

@KKCvids

Don't kid yourself about that. Pedophilia and atrocities aren't dependent on religion/faith. And Atheism doesn't prevent people from following violent/destructive ideologies.

[AceofDlamonds]

@KKCvids

that's very narrow thinking.......

[hippoyell]

She killed herself! hahaha! How stupid!

[MartyrFaythe]

I was tempted to dislike this, for only one reason. The man lost his whole family because he decided he no longer had faith in his god. I was going to, but it's a dis-service to his story. It shows how closed-minded many theists are (not all, mind you), who will cast out their loved ones because of a difference of belief. Amazing story worth listening to by anyone who will, theists and atheists alike. Everyone can learn things from his experience. Thank you so much for sharing.

[annonnimus1]

@MartyrFaythe :) is a pleasure.

[AceofDlamonds]

@MartyrFaythe

His children have come to accept and respect his views since 2008.

[drche420]

Finally I have a video to refer YECs to when they claim that all people are born "knowing" a spiritual force or deity.

[annonnimus1]

@drche420 :)

[bargoth125]

Simply put, the so called "savage" tribes of Pirahas are WAY more intelligent than 90% of our "civilized" Americans. No surprise there...

[superhamzah85]

"She killed herself? HAHA, how stupid."

Crude, but we are somehow accustomed to this phenomenon of self death, it shows something is very very wrong with how we in developed countries function.

Suicide IS highly weird, a lifeform designed to survive to the best of it's ability choosing non-existance. It takes the Pirahas tribe living the raw homosapien life to show us that.

[ulutirmik]

This is what a culture is, it is like a magnetic field, you stay in it long enough you are sure to be infected by it, that is why the mens world is a relative creation, but it does not mean that it is not real, solve this puzzle and you become an anthropolgist.

[Snurdgerbly]

Humanity is at a cross-roads. Still clinging to infantile fantasies of "heavenly fathers" and mythic heroes, but at the helm of powerful machinery that can blow the planet back to a desert populated only with single cell lifeforms. We are like teenage kids drunk at the wheel of a powerful car. Will we crash and burn, or awake, hung over and embarrassed at the mess we have to clean up? I hope more people wake up like this bloke did, and soon.

[MerlinYoda]

Meh, for a missionary worker, his faith in his religion was pretty weak if a people who have little concept of future, past, or anything beyond their sensory perception could sway his beliefs so simply.

[annonnimus1]

@MerlinYoda for example, he looked at the picture of a water-walking-man and said "mmh this may be a superstition like a man that ride an unicorn" this is not weak faith, is only common sense and intellectual honesty. no? But, ok, he wasn't an hardcore believer

[MerlinYoda]

@annonnimus1 Ya, my main point was more that he couldn't have had any great amount of faith to begin with if it was so easy for him to lose it ... not as much towards the natives lack of interest/understanding of anything beyond their immediate perception.

[itsallthereinreality]

@MerlinYoda Yes, he could have chosen to bury the ideas of the Piraha behind layers of intolerance or self-deception, but doing so is not a sign of strength any more than re-evaluating your beliefs after receiving new information is weakness. In fact, what was probably his biggest strength in his faith--the loving and accepting words of Jesus Christ--was likely the largest factor in his change of beliefs.

[MerlinYoda]

@itsallthereinreality True, I just find the whole situation somewhere between ironic and humorous (not in the "ha ha" way per se). A missionary worker who is sent with the intent of converting the "Godless natives" to Christianity is instead converted to their beliefs. I'm guessing whatever missionary group he was working for wished they could get a "refund" on whatever expenses of his that they covered (if any) while he was there :-).

[hippoyell]

@MerlinYoda

Does it show strength to keep a certain mindset through life instead of learning as you go through?

Mental rigidity isn't strength. Faith/belief aren't honorable. Acceptance of when you experience is.

[MerlinYoda]

@hippoyell You read too much into my statements. Since when are holding to certain principles and learning mutually exclusive? I have "faith" that the force of gravity will be intact tomorrow as much as it is today. I have plenty of experience to believe this to be true, but I can't know with absolute certainty. Some degree of mental rigidity is *good*. Otherwise, you end up believing everything your told and never do any self-examination (which happens on the other end of the spectrum too...).

[hippoyell]

@MerlinYoda

"Faith" that gravity will also exist tomorrow is not faith. It is an assumption based on common sense.

What your "Faith" is, is better compared to believing there is a purple striped tea pot orbiting earth although no astronauts or astronomers have ever seen it.

[MerlinYoda]

@hippoyell Again, you read to much into my statements and make the blind assumption that I am somehow a devout member of some religion (likely some branch of Christianity). Seeing as only a select few actually know any of my beliefs with regards to religion, you'd be well served not to make any assumptions about them. That gravity exists is common sense. That it *will continue to exist* takes some level of "faith" (even if minute) to believe so, even if it is based largely on prior observation.

[TheToxicVoid]

@hippoyell

I agree. Stubbornness doesn't equal a strong mind. One should always allow new information to change opinions or views.

[ninzskers]

this is what we called common sense and natural skepticism... what a beautiful story...

[chesterdjester]

What's the music at the end?

[annonnimus1]

@chesterdjester "for Lianne" by "She"

[chesterdjester]

@annonnimus1 You sir are awesome

[Ph7uX]

This was a good story. I'm glad I was able to see this.

[truthteller656]

So he believed a bunch of people that live in the jungle that havnt got a clue of anything? they dont even know everything was made and designed ? as an ex witch i its funny how satans plan is working just fine, all thats left is make more people believe that ufos are vistors from other planets rather then its just demons taking that form.

[Veorfolnir]

@truthteller656 Guess I'll see you in hell, psycho.

[Sharagran]

@truthteller656 Cool story bro.

[rkuder1991]

Beautiful.

[DickJohnsonRocks]

this is awesome!

[FraterTeneo]

I love this! The removal of superstition and untested faith is necessary for the evolution of man. This is a fantastic video.

[annonnimus1]

@FraterTeneo I totally agree :)

[Happypsychoman]

I struggled with de-conversion for years, and to this day I still consider it to be the best thing that has ever happened to me. I'm not open about it usually, but I talk about it when I feel the need.

I feel like I can look at anything rationally, and life isn't confusing anymore. I'm comfortable saying "I don't know", and the world is a much more beautiful place as a result. It's an awesome feeling when I sit back and think about it. Good luck to anyone going through those times. :)

[tokara2132]

@Happypsychoman I understand what you've gone through. I was helped along by a rather supportive family but most of them think I'll "come around". Plus, you've come out with an appreciation for everything around you that may not have been there before. That was one of the best things I got out of my "loss" of faith. It is appreciation for the beauty all around us, rather than appreciation for what God "did" for us (with big and obvious strings attached).

[jack00008]

damn. I really fuckin "get" atheism now. there shouldn't be fear of death, because nothing bad can possibly happen to you anymore. There are no sins, only choices which aren't beneficial to anyone. I really fuckin get it now.

[annonnimus1]

@jack00008 I'm so happy for you. Is a simple, natural sensation. the best one. Only Humans, mammals, temporary aggregates, animals, organism.. luckily here, in this beautiful Univers, after million years of evolution.

[gamesmasta]

@jack00008 Just so we're on the same page. You should usually be atheist because you have insufficient proof that there is a supernatural being(s) and/or there is reason to believe there isn't one.

An interesting result of this is the realization that your existence is truly a rarity in this massive universe and there is no reason to believe that there is a life after death. In other words, all you have is what you have now. That is an amazing feeling.

[elviin01]

Read the book The Fall written by Steve Taylor. The book elaborates on the same subject as described in the video.

[BarbarianAsh]

Wonderful.

[FKnopsMckim]

Wow, that is enlightening

[MuNkaPOtaMuS]

"She killed herself, HA HAHA, how stupid!"

This is how I feel about ALL suicides.

"They didn't feel lost, so they didn't feel a need to be saved"

Religion... in a nutshell.

[StargateMunky]

@MuNkaPOtaMuS wait you laugh when other people take their own lives? Yeah, douche chill

[MuNkaPOtaMuS]

@StargateMunky Wow, come down off your highhorse buddy. I don't exactly laugh (Unless it's a clown), but I do think it's stupid to kill yourself.

[StargateMunky]

@MuNkaPOtaMuS yeah say that to the families why don't you.Bet that'll cheer them up.

[MuNkaPOtaMuS]

@StargateMunky So...you're saying that suicide is the... Smart... thing to do? I'm trying to see how it's not stupid.

Quit being such a whiner... go to a corner with a razor blade... and do the "smart" thing. Since you think it's not a stupid thing to do.

[StargateMunky]

@MuNkaPOtaMuS I've had close friends kill themselves, if you don't have the intelligence or maturity to recognise that not everyone blows their brains out over a girlfreind or lost pet like a 16 year old but because they've witness people being shot by their own hands mabye you wouldn't come across as such an arrogant prick trying tojustify his own conflict.

Yeah i'm on my high horse because you're not old enough to know what the fuck you're talking about.

[thivous]

simply beautiful

[hanginwifmrcoop]

hi reddit

[CirrowProductions]

@hanginwifmrcoop Hello gigantic faggot.

[Clearmedium]

This is beautiful.