I love science, and i believe science and knowledge is a huge part of our existense. Through science we are where we are. But I also i believe there is more to life than what meets the eye. We are here for a reason, and not due a evolution.
Jesus is king. Praise him forever!! If you need proof look in your heart and think am I just a random mistake from evolution that is even intelligent enough to dream up these absurd questions. There has to be great meaning to it.
I use to see angels when I was at church, praising God, They were praising God also. I would also see them hover above the balcony, watching the preacher, while he preached. I guess they were joinning in the church service also. I never saw them outside of the church.
@Tom13501 Me too. My church has a balcony and is very lofty. For a while , when we were worshiping Jesus. I could see Angels in my peripheral vision like points of light taking dives and flying around.(sounds ridiculous) I also could hear their wings like large humming birds. I believe they were worshiping. While they were there, there was a golden light . I could never look right at them. But I could hear them singing too. Such a beautiful experience.
@buginyourear That almost explains my story exactly. Except I could see the figure of the angels, in my peripheral vision. They were more then points of light, but I don't recall seeing any wings, nor hear any. The only other angelic experience I've had, is them singing me to sleep one night, but I didn't see them. They did not sing in words, but they sang the music. Qwite beautiful.
@buginyourear Once while I was on stage helping lead in worship songs, after we had all stopped singing I heard a very high pitched singing voice that lingered. It was during the summer and we had many people that were on vacation AND we have a very small congregation. I saw no one singing. I was shocked!
@Jeanmarie63126 What a gift, huh? I notice that their voices resonate like chimes or bells. And if you think about they don't breathe, so they never have to take a breath when they sing. It just....resonates. Beautiful.
@cheetahprint100 what ? everything is in the mind of the person with the supernatural, ever notice... nothing just happens there is a reason behind it, a natural reason. have a look at alien abductions, do you believe them too....? What about schitzo's ? who see bugs crawling around the room, when there are no bugs in the room to every sane person ?
@verminpants The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6
@danwazhere7 The little girls said she saw a female angel...only one problem, God doesn't create Female Angels. Perhaps she was confusing an angel with long hair as being a female angel.
And for your moral law statement. So you're saying I don't have morals? Well, that's fine and dandy. But the US prisons are mostly Christian (76.6%), and some major Countries in Europe /are/ primarily atheist, Sweden for example, is one of the most peaceful countries on the planet and mostly Atheist.
@radioactiveego I asked you a specific question: As an atheist/agnostic do you believe in the existence of evil? And as for your Christian prison statistic...Well, no one said Christians are perfect, that's not the premise. The point is, there is a distinction between endorsed acts and those that jeopardize a person's salvation. Compared to the prescriptions of Islam, one would have to be a complete moron not to note the difference. And the US is a Christian country, so your point is...
You're trying to justify religion as being nothing but peace, but I can list off countless rebuttals. I live in the US, and it's not a christian nation (per the government), but it is christian population, which is scary. I think you've become blinded that Islam is evil, but you ignore atrocities committed by your own religion, and even in your 'bible' it's still pretty bad, not as bad as the OT or KJV, but still bad nonetheless.
@radioactiveego Absolutely not, if only for the reason that as a Christian, I cannot BS you or anyone else and remain credible, that I'm not in need of constant correction. Christ, Christianity, acknowledges that humanity is inherently destructive, that no one is "good" in it's perfect sense. No one. So the notion that atrocities are exempt from Christians isn't consistent with the Christians need for Christ. The difference is, Islam actually defines a muslim, by violence, not in spite of it.
@radioactiveego A good litmus test would be to compare the two societies, foibles and all. On the one hand you can live in Iran. On the other the US. As an atheist/agnostic, may I kindly suggest you choose Door # 2, and remain in the US? Only in the reality of actual repressive societal existence, would you see with clarity, just how Judeo Christian, your right to disbelieve really is. Back to the question, do you believe in the existence of evil?
@radioactiveego We can revisit Islam and Iran another time, for now, I just need you to confirm that by affirming Evil exists (Which you have) that you also necessarily assert that Good exists. Is that a fair assumption, given you believe in the existence of Evil?
@NilDesperandum777 i mean good and evil exists, there is no doubt but that doesn't prove god, i have heard so many falacies on here but that is a doosey.
@NilDesperandum777 Well kind of, there is law, black and white laws/morals. but there are moral laws which are subjective. like lusting, adultery, anger, saying unkind things, etc...
No point in worrying about little wrongs like these, except adultery. Everyone agrees on these things in a civilized society anyway. There common sense like all countries had basically the same laws. Everyone agreed in punishing crimes, like murder, assault, stealing, etc.. nothing new or revolutionary about it.
Jesus moral teachings were basically the same as Buddha's and other philosophers, he was around the same time as when the old testament was thought to be written. So really yeh....you got nothing.
Why hijack the moral conscience for yourself ? that's what all religions have done, so many, many religions...all man made you believe but your one is absolutely right.
It's just a nice comfy blanket to snuggle up in. It makes you feel good like you know the truth, but so do all religions. It's just a big fat lie to make you feel better.
Think about those new age things, like think about something and you will get it. Same as inside is God's spirit and he lives in you guiding you into becoming better, same as Lord Zenu and the fetons, or Lord Lunos who gives you life forces from the moon,. Just try to disprove Lunos.
@QuiteNot You seem to be working awfully hard to attempt and disprove the source of hope for many people...I wonder why that is? Because surely if people who believed wanted to feel something other than what actually gives them comfort, they would seek it, with no need of assistance from you...As for disproving Lord Lunos, I assume you know and represent his/her/it's attributes as a working theology, right?
@NilDesperandum777 just like people fall for religion, they get influenced to believe it, no one is born knowing about the bible, it is taught. So you need to be deprogrammed, the best way is by making people think. People do things against their own will all the time, not doing what they truly want to do.
btw i'm not saying everyone had the same laws but basically the same. U know assault, rape, murder is wrong, etc..get punished for doing wrong. Of course not everyone followed the law. ;)
Religion is just a (eternal) life policy. people believe cause they don't want to take the risk of being sent to hell, for being wrong about the bible.
I have been looking at the beliefs in the bible, quran, my own, other faiths. And it doesn't matter what it says I just don't believe in God. I prayed to him, ask to guide me, help me, the next morning my lack of faith just grows stronger, I always seem to say to myself in the morning, did I pray last night I must have been tired. ; )
@QuiteNot It's apparent you have a lot of passion about your position but not a whole lot of information. Best of luck with your version of history and theology.
@QuiteNot Well if you're using Lincoln's speech or his paraphrase of Christ's statement from whence the saying originated, it has little in context to do with a person's honesty to one's conscience and everything to do with unity towards common ends and goals...interesting you to defer to His wisdom in one case and not in others - speaking of honesty. But again, take care.
@QuiteNot That's entirely incorrect. Jesus pointed to Himself as the moral law, and specifically outlined the mechanism of sin and what singular solution to the forgiveness and cessation of sin was, namely, Himself. Christ pointed to a specific reality after death that consisted of two ends. Siddartha pointed to the amorphous Nirvana as life's (and the individual's identity) end. his moral precepts didnt begin to address Christ's intensity nor specificity. As for philosophers in general....
@QuiteNot Actually, the moral law - distinctions between "Good" and "Bad" actually is very revolutionary in the sense that there is a time in which these "basic concepts" did not exist, nor were generally apprehended by societies at large. "Civilized society" as you put it, is a dubious description at best, and a statement that ignores actual history at worst. And we can go down the line if you like...IF there is a moral law, there must be a moral law giver, would you agree or not?
@NilDesperandum777 I believe we are all the same. So someone had to come up with these idea's and they caught on because they make good sense. like I said all people from all nations who had no contact with each other had the same laws.
@QuiteNot You're entitled to any belief you like, but history doesn't support this notion, that everyone, everywhere had the same concept of "civil society" as you're positing. Concepts that promote general welfare, charity in a societal application and other elements you "think" existed for "all time" were revolutionary to the Christian community and there filtering system. "Good sense" after all, doesnt throw sick infants off of cliffs now does it?
@NilDesperandum777 i believe jesus moral teachings were nothing new, Buddhist. And that all pagan sons of god, like Hercules and other deities had stories made up about them, did they really exist is about as important as did Jesus exist.
Even the old testament sacrifices smacked of pagan origin. which ancient culture didn't have animal/human sacrifices as making the god/gods happy and atoning for sins.
@radioactiveego I see. So you confirm evil exists. And do I take it from your answer that you believe, evil ONLY exists in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, other parts of the OT and in the Quran? Do I have this correct?
I'll go out on a limb and say that half the bible is full of violence, murder, etc. And the other half if full of mind swelling contradictions, and the supposed miracles are impossible and unprovable.
Evil is probably a group of people who throw smallpox infected blankets on Indians, or go on TV and say Indonesia got hit with an Earth Quake because they were atheists and god haters.
@radioactiveego Not so dissimilar from Sweden socially speaking, guess which country has the highest rate of suicide in the developed world? Norway. And as a side, Scandinavian societies aren't successful because there's a prevalence of Atheism, because point of fact they retain those Christian charitable qualities retained from the past. They are successful because their workforce to resource to industry input/output is so efficient. Havent you noticed all their flags have crosses on them?
@radioactiveego And when you saw it, did you have to pay Richard Dawkins royalties for parroting his pseudo-philosophical concoction? It's like if I was on a thread about something militantly atheistic and said, "I saw Cheetah (from Tarzan) dictating to Charles Darwin, who had to be disciplined by the chimp because Darwin kept eating his poo." It doesn't represent a single real thing about the Atheist position, unnecessarily discredits Darwin and mocks your position for it's own sake. Sheesh...
He (Dawkins) didn't come up with it, you uneducated Christian. A college kid did (Bobby Henderson), and sent a letter about it to the Kansas evolution hearings. So to answer your question, no.
Funny how I never mentioned Darwin, or Dawkins, or being an atheist. Good to know Christians still pass judgement on people who don't believe in nonsense!
@radioactiveego Find a single person who has used that phrase more than Richard Dawkins or who has enhanced his "brand" more on the phrase and I'll apologize.Because it has become so synonymous with Dawkins and militant Atheism, the reflex to ascribe your mimic wasn't nearly the kind of Google inducing reference hunt your citation makes it out to be. And as the apologetic bunny trail follows: Spaghetti Monster - Dawkins - Darwin. You're comment was rude and petty. My response - appropriate.
Wikipedia: Flying Spaghetti Monster. Does the author say 'Richard Dawkins'? No, it does not. Did I/mean to introduce Dawkins in this conversation? Nope. You did. Did you accuse me of things based off of 7 words? Yes, you did. Am I agnostic? Yes, I am. Are you a Christian who believes in non-provable bronze age nonsense? Yes, you are. Are you a Christian Apologetic? Yes, you are.
@radioactiveego Actually Einstein, Note 68 cites The God Delusion by Dawkins, which was my claim to reference, further that again, the qualification I set forth is impact of use, of which, NO ONE has had greater mileage or use than Richard Dawkins. It's original application? As satire against teaching ID. Your use? On a YT thread re: People Who Have Seen Angels. Distance of reasonable assumption? About two inches. Was I wrong in the assumption? Obviously not. Did your obfuscation work? Nope.
@radioactiveego Part 2 - Your intent was meant to be sarcastic, mean spirited, demeaning. Once again: Obfuscation. And you're not very good at it. Then again neither are most militant atheists when pressed so, no surprises there. And as for "uneducated" sport, well, at the very least I know that what you meant to say was, "Are you a Christian APOLOGIST?" So the fact you answered your incorrect question, incorrectly, only proves the point now doesnt it? Yes. One can't be an "Apologetic", sport.
That's nice. You keep accusing me of something I'm not. And yes, It was sarcasm of the highest degree.
Obfuscation you say? Well, I could go on and on about how the 'bible' is so obfuscated, and your response will be 'You didn't read it right' or 'You need to take this literally and that metaphorically'
Flying spaghetti monster will vomit sauce on your soul.
@radioactiveego Hold on, so now you're not a mean spirited disbeliever, trolling on a thread full of people whose belief sets you mock, but somehow, someway you're being misunderstood? OK. Try again, friend. And the truth of it is, the assent to belief has nothing to do with Scripture alone. As to the process of belief, that's a mystery. But the truth of exegesis is, yes, you do have to EDUCATE yourself in a number of areas conjoined in meaning with specificity. Surely that should appeal to you?
@radioactiveego YOU addressed me as uneducated. I demonstrated you weren't ( "Apologetic" )on the matter. That's not an assumption. 1) I implied you are an atheist because your INSULT , only exists in one negative context towards Christians. Not an assumption. 2) Correct because the term is synonymous with his efforts. 3) I demonstrated where you were in error - "Apologetic" etc. By all means, peruse the exchange for verification. It's actually YOUR incorrect assumptions dying here, sport
That's nice. You didn't imply, you assumed (3 times). I told you, that you were in error (more than once.), and you continued. You are uneducated, and you assume way too much from short sentence.
@radioactiveego LOL, and again, the man who doesnt know the difference between apologetic and apologist adds imply and assumption to the list. I think you're under the apprehension that assumptions are equivocal with error. Well, they're not. Yes I assumed - CORRECTLY, that you disbelieve in the existence of God, and I did so on the evidence of the derogatory comment you provided. You may feel the distinction between an agnostic and atheist is monumental, but it's not. You should study more.
Good for you. You don't know the difference between one of the other. (More assumptions!) Funny how Christians were born with telepathy.
Derogatory comment? Here goes. The christian god is a murdering, genocidal lunatic who advocates killing babies and butchering countless millions of people. If you gave nuclear weapon control to Pat Robinson or those other idiots like him, they would launch nuclear weapons at Iran and start WW3.
@radioactiveego What are you talking about? lol. You simply saying, "you dont know..." doesn't make it so. Anyone choosing to read any of this can verify that my contentions are correct and that you think by virtue of your chosen label are somehow "brighter". But what can you do when you're constantly corrected? I guess you have to say what you have, but sorry, friend, you just arent using the English language to the effect I think you think you're having. And that's not my problem, it's yours.
@radioactiveego Part 2 - Pat Robinson? Do you mean Pat ROBERTSON? There's another assumption, right?You're drawing incorrect parallels. Christianity is not like Islam. The other, as touched on before is that Sacred Scripture is all literal. I would suggest reading the NT. I'd also suggest absorbing Micah 6:8 as a central descriptor of Christian obligation. But then, you're simply interested in remaining militant against Christianity, it explains the insult for insult sake comment you just left.
@radioactiveego Truth is, an atheist/agnostic, you, from a worldview standpoint, can't logically justify morality OF ANY KIND, given the lack of a rational argument for moral law. Christianity is GOODNESS ITSELF. Human nature however, can be evil. Islam which orders murder and conquest from it's Book, is evil. You're simply either too lazy or too ignorant to know any better. Nietsche, surmised in order for atheism to remain justifiable, moralit must die. Dawkins agrees. Ergo, evil can't exist.
The Crusades? The Inquisition? Aztec Genocide? Locking up Galileo for life? Missionaries destroying entire cultures? Burning witchs? Nazi Death Camps? (Gott Mit Uns),? Burning Joan of Arc? Repressing Scientific and Medical research? The killing of Cherokee Indians by Missionaries with smallpox infected blankets?, The Ku Klux Klan? (A Christian organization), Muslims cutting off heads? I do not see any benefit from religion.
@radioactiveego Well, firstly, your question presumes an incorrect premise. Namely that all religions are the same and have effected society equally. They're not and they haven't. Case in point. Not a whole lot of people from Europe and North America looking to set up shop in the Middle East. The former being the product of Judeo Christian values and efforts, the latter (Except it's best society: - Israel) formed by Islam. So the first obvious "help" is the construction of a superior society.
It's funny how Christians say Islam is evil, but if you look through all of the evil shit in the bible, you people don't even mention it. Western Society was influenced from the Romans. Our form of government, law, education, was mostly Roman and Greek. (And others that aren't mentioned, Egypt for certain things too).
I can't wait for Islam, Christianity and the other batshit crazy religions to go away.
@radioactiveego Well it's a simple order of operations. OT, then NT. Another important distinction. Judaism evolved, which implies that the instructions they may have interpreted one way, were insufficient. For Christians, that insufficiency is perfected in the blameless life of Christ to which the NT records. And matter of fact, our common law is heavily reliant on the moral code set forth in Christianity, as was public education, hospitals, welfare states, etc...
@radioactiveego Part 2 - Those acts mentioned committed in the name of Christ are not endorsed by Sacred Scripture nor by any Christian maxim. Islam on the other hand, does advocate violence and as to it's "help"? Nothing. Can't wait for it to either evolve or die. The KKK is not a Christian organization despite claims to such. Western Society, it's laws, universities and systems of education are primarily Judeo Christian contributions. Your representation of the events is distorted. (Cont)
Part 2 -> And those things were done in the name of Christianity. No matter how you stack it, they were. You can say it wasn't until you're blue in the face, but they were all Christians. I guess the people who flew planes into buildings weren't Muslim, even though they worshiped Allah? Islam and Christians have something in common; Your holy books are full of nonsense and violence.
@radioactiveego Part 3 - Distorted in the sense that the trial for Galileo showed he had support. But not enough. He was also funded by the RCC. So the notion that science and learning was "repressed" is idiotic and a popular, erroneous claim militant atheists feel possess merit. On a numbers by numbers basis, atheistic governments/regimes are by far the most intentionally brutal. And they do so because of their worldview, not in spite of it. Do I take it you dont believe evil exists?
Galileo was arrested. Galileo was on house arrest for the rest of his life by saying that the Earth rotates around the Sun. This was considered Hersey. As for the governments comment, Of course they are. The leaders of those countries want to be looked at as a god (Look at N. Korea). So those countries can be considered religious, by their own terms.
@radioactiveego Certainly, and now you're getting it. The only difference is, in those countries that you admit were worse, would identify you as a non-threat. You would be considered ideal,precisely because you believe as they did. Religious in their own terms, just as you define your worldview according to a set of beliefs. The difference in production of society however, is one that's measured between our Western democratic societies founded on Judeo Christian values and those that aren't.
I am not sure if they were worse, or they were not. Everyone in those countries died, religious people, gays, scientists, people who were a threat, were killed. They wanted to be worshiped as a god (old russian Czars were considered Demigods). Not really an atheist society, because there was still religion in the government, the head of the government was god.
@radioactiveego It was a completely Atheistic society. There are an inordinate amount of testimonies attesting to the hellish reality of life in these Atheistic regimes. Literally, Fredrich Nietsche's statement that evil must not exist in order that the Atheist's worldview thrive took place. Richard Dawkins affirms this contention as the logical outgrowth of an Atheistic worldview. Eugenics confirm the same intent, that essentially renders humanity as devoid of anything valuable.
@radioactiveego Part 3 - As for "non-provable bronze age nonsense", by all means, specify and we'll begin your primer on what constitutes evidence in circles where historicity is taken seriously. And question: What precisely does confirming that you disbelieve in the existence of God prove while attempting to establish your position as some reasonable middle on a thread obviously geared towards believers in the existence of God? Talk about nailing your little mean spirited self for what it is.
I saw an angel while calling on the Name of Christ. A demon had me paralyzed in my sleep. I could not wake up. I said, ''Jesus?'' barely got it out, and as my eyes opened I saw His back. He was as 12 feet tall, his robe had no seams and was the brightness of the sun yet did not hurt my eyes, and he had a demon by his right hand leading it away. I saw only the back of his head, hair dark and cut blunt, no wings, maybe a ministering Spirit.
I had my encounter when I was five. I remember it as if it were yesterday, yet that is the only memory I have. I confirm feelings of peace and everything is going to be fine. I'm 35 now, and had it not been for the Angel, I probably would have been atheist. I fear not death anymore for the love of God has allowed me to have this encounter. Thank you Jesus for forgiveness and most of all, Salvation!
Don't fall in the hands and these modern groups that teach that every thing is ok, those that teach that there's no hell. Believe my words: there's hell. and a place you have no means, way to know and comprehend how horrible it is. A place that is more real and palpable than your own skin. Only God is real and His Justice. Follow God and His Love, don't let friends, bad books and videos like that influence you, angels and the Kingdom of God does not belong to this world. Find Christ TODAY!
Read also the book of the exorcists of today (ex: Bishop Gabrielle Amorth), to understand how S. and their slaves from hell work in our world, how many people got influenced, possessed by the evil spirits... follow the good teachings of the Saints, of those that were dedicated to the Church blessed by Jesus himself: The Roman Catholic Church. Believe me, because I have learned through my own mistakes. I would not like to see other brothers falling in the same sins I committed. Follow Christ!
Many of these people are saying or affirming things according to the teachings of their masters linked to the New Age groups. Don't follow these ideas, these philosophies. If you want to know more about the life before death, the spiritual world and the teaching according to God, look for the books of the most holy souls that lived in our world: Maria Alacoque, Saint Theresa D'Avila, Saint Brigitte of Sweden. Follow those that sacrificed their lives for the Love of God. Read their books.
Angels & the dead ones aren't in our material world. Our world is totally disconnected from the spiritual world, the only way to know it, cross over is when we die. Angels (good & evil) are the only ones who cross this limit. The good ones for doing God's will, the bad ones to do the Evil. The dead once dead, cross once, are judged, never come back. There were cases when they came back because God decided so, but this happened once in a million years - it's all according to God's will.
The DEAD know nothing,evil angels can inpersonate dead humans.once a human is dead,he canot come back from the state of death to communicate with humans,it is written in the bible.
I know for truth that Angles are real.They are with GOD and with us and have been from the beginning.I have seen both good and bad from a young age all so they are righting in these books on our lives.A Spirit told me these things.
I consider humans to be evil, so does 65% of the rest of humanity. There is no humanity. We are more a demon than an angel. Just look around, we are actualling LIVING right now, in a HELL.
Wow its amazing how people still believe in the supernatural...just THINK for a second...as David Hume once said...what is more likely that the laws of nature were suspended in your favor or that your under a misapprehension...
always wanted to see an angel but what i'm really sure I saw was only a stinking demon iwas scared and I turned my head towards the wall and when I looked back it was gone it is evidence that things really do exist in the spirit. Scientists are always trying to figure out everything they even come up with things like humans were from monkeys and people actually believe that and they never even seen people like that but when people say that they've seen spirits they think we got a brain disorder?
I was allowed to see angels several times. I took photos of a fallen angel (devil) accidentally and got into life threatening trouble. I am now a Christian. Praise GOD. Angels are not to be messed around with, or investigated, and nor are they required to give us evidence of their existence. I was lead straight to JESUS CHRIST and The Bible by ministering angels. They do not want us worshipping them. Holy angels work for GOD, but all angels know The Bible as The Truth.
@jevil1979 Yeh and all religious people say they witnessed their deity of choice, American Indians used to see the eagle and bear, etc...their spirit guide. I have dreams too...
Ever seen someone with no faith whatsoever see anything like this...? makes you wonder don't it, the power of the mind and will and shit.
Some swear they saw their parents spirits, ancestor worship people
Some people swear they were abducted by aliens several times, etc.. what do you think about those experiences ? Where do you draw the line on ridiculous ?
I believe that there are angels around us because on several occasion I have a feeling as if someone is directing me in case I have lost something there is away I feel the presence to where the particular thing I am looking for is located. Thank God for these signs otherwise many don't even believe there is GOD anywhere or any existance of all you have witnessed. Be blessed and bless us too in the name of Jesus.
blah blah its chemical bull crap. I hate theist and arrogant people. Their so blind in the worlds ways they dont percieve the real facts of the bibe. they can only quote what ever they want, their the ignorant ones who get left behind.. Smoke weed it will do your brain right ya athiest
Well some of us have seen them in a normal frame of mind - and come in power. We are surrounded by the supernatural and I could care less about snotty arrogant atheists or those self proclaimed geniuses who think they dictate reality. Their time is about up.
Thank you for posting because my father past away June 2006 and now my mother is just too close to death but this has caused hope for them to be safe where they go and I will be able to see them when I get there. I haven't seen one but I believe that there are real.
I, myself, have seen an angel 15 years ago. He appeared to be a young man in his early 20's, long blond curly hair above the shoulders, white robe, white wings, & fair complexion. It was only for a short moment but I knew what I saw. If it was Satan, he only proved that God does truly exist, by he, Satan, foolishly appearing himself. Satan is not that dumb. Why would he appear as an angel if he truly wanted people to lose faith In God? Take care.
Yeah I hope they die and see Angels like i did then return to Earth so they can see for themselves and tell all the other delusional atheists whats up.
not mention in this. However, it's good many people do believe in the spiritual realm regardless of the opinions of many atheistic scientists. People many of these kinds of people with their jaded points of views are misguided about eternity. There's no mention about eternal hell nor heaven. There's a lack of Biblical point of view. I'm a born again Christian & I do have some fears of death. I'll probably will receive some negative comments on this one. Are any of these people born again Chris--
What's up with all these Euroean looking angels? Some of then is also half naked. What an abomination. Didn't God in His word condemns the making of carved, or any form of anything that is in heaven above, beneath the earth, or in the water under the earth acoording to the 2nd of th 10 Commandments in EX.20:4-6. All angelic beings aren't the same, they are all distintive in appearence. Also, there are far too people relying on the presence & powers of angels. Where is God in all this? Jesus is--
1) The "holy angels" in the Bible were sent by "The Word of God", the Lord Jesus Christ, with "the word of God", "the holy scriptures". Where is "the word of God" and "the testimony of Jesus Christ" in these "angelic" visitations?
3) Do the dead ever return to their homes after death to bring comfort? "As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. He shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him any more." (Job 7:9,10). Jesus said, "If they hear not Moses and the prophets [the scriptures], neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." (Luke 16:19-31)
4) "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:" (1 John 4:1) "for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." (II Cor. 11:14). "Prove all things" "by the word of God", the Holy Bible. (I Thess. 5:21; II Tim. 2:15; Rom. 10:17); "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices." (II Cor. 2:11)
5) "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;" (I Tim. 4:1). Each time the devil, "an angel of light", appeared to our Lord, Jesus rebuked him with the scriptures: "It is written...." "It is written...." "it is written...." (Mat. 4:4,7,10). "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." (Isa. 8:20)
6) Jesus said, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures" (Mat. 22:29). "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." (John 17:17); "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (II Thes. 2:11,12); "and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing them to err." (Isa. 30:28)
7) "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen." (II Pet. 3:17,18)
after my experiences with angels, I do not trust them at all. Be careful Dave if you see angels. test all they do to the last letter agaisnt the word of God. I dont trust them
this is really decieving , non of the testimonies , test the spirits they saw, and the Bible states what angels are , and what happens when people die, they just go to sleep, everything stops until they are resurrected when Jesus comes or they are resurrected for condemnation and thrown to the lake of fire to be destroyed. Read the storry of Lot in the bible thats one amazing angel story.
amazing. But also you have to becareful with angel visions, not all of them are good. satan can appear as an angel of light. I had a few of these"bad angels...lok like good angels visions. they did not decieve me only thanks to the word of God. I tested what they said based on the word of God and it did not match and I rebuked them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and I have not seen them since.
I LOVE U JESUS SO MUCH
LOVEVIRUS427 1 week ago
God that know it all woman in the green jacket is so boring she has nothing beautiful to say about life. I would hate to be her.
madelena1234 2 weeks ago
change,lisrname,not,kind,i,m,no,angel,bangel
mollysangelique 3 weeks ago
gazo,slapen,morgen,thuis,i,m,sorry,i,did,you,know,ik,flip,uit,jy,gaf,not,a,nice,song,mean,ok,wil,jy,wat,anders,mag,uit,inboxde,hele,witte,lykt,op,ik,zag,met,19
mollysangelique 3 weeks ago
I enjoy listening to intelligent people of faith, much more so than to debunking nerdy ones that can't think outside their nutsack.
MarkAllenChannel 3 weeks ago
dont get me started on angels.they are soooo wonderful.specially michael hes my favorite.
witchcerridwen 1 month ago
I love science, and i believe science and knowledge is a huge part of our existense. Through science we are where we are. But I also i believe there is more to life than what meets the eye. We are here for a reason, and not due a evolution.
Raptorx007 1 month ago
Jesus I love you I will try to never steal I want to go to heaven I will never do drugs I promise
KirpyChrisRose 1 month ago
Praise Jesus for saving whoever desires to be saved. Praise our heavenly Father for the love he has for the world. Amen.
JesusIsTheSavior7777 2 months ago
people!!! ghost are not angels dont mistake the two
haitian011 2 months ago
i havnt seen angels but my family says i talked to gohsts as a kid
JWeaverTV 2 months ago
Jesus is king. Praise him forever!! If you need proof look in your heart and think am I just a random mistake from evolution that is even intelligent enough to dream up these absurd questions. There has to be great meaning to it.
ilovejimhalpertt 3 months ago 5
"The Son of Man will send his angels..." The Explanation from Jesus himself. Matt. 13, verse 41.
LoneMonk1 4 months ago
@LoneMonk1 Yes!
buginyourear 2 months ago
I use to see angels when I was at church, praising God, They were praising God also. I would also see them hover above the balcony, watching the preacher, while he preached. I guess they were joinning in the church service also. I never saw them outside of the church.
Tom13501 5 months ago
@Tom13501 Me too. My church has a balcony and is very lofty. For a while , when we were worshiping Jesus. I could see Angels in my peripheral vision like points of light taking dives and flying around.(sounds ridiculous) I also could hear their wings like large humming birds. I believe they were worshiping. While they were there, there was a golden light . I could never look right at them. But I could hear them singing too. Such a beautiful experience.
buginyourear 4 months ago
@buginyourear That almost explains my story exactly. Except I could see the figure of the angels, in my peripheral vision. They were more then points of light, but I don't recall seeing any wings, nor hear any. The only other angelic experience I've had, is them singing me to sleep one night, but I didn't see them. They did not sing in words, but they sang the music. Qwite beautiful.
Tom13501 4 months ago
@Tom13501 I've heard the same songs. Beautiful.
Jeanmarie63126 2 months ago
@buginyourear Once while I was on stage helping lead in worship songs, after we had all stopped singing I heard a very high pitched singing voice that lingered. It was during the summer and we had many people that were on vacation AND we have a very small congregation. I saw no one singing. I was shocked!
Jeanmarie63126 2 months ago
@Jeanmarie63126 What a gift, huh? I notice that their voices resonate like chimes or bells. And if you think about they don't breathe, so they never have to take a breath when they sing. It just....resonates. Beautiful.
buginyourear 2 months ago
@Jeanmarie63126 There are many who have reported the very same thing.
MultiBurtons 1 month ago
@Tom13501 That's amazing Tom. I get the feeling they are more abundant when we are singing/praising!
Jeanmarie63126 2 months ago
the freaken scientists always have to bring science into it!!. stuff can happen!!
cheetahprint100 6 months ago 6
@cheetahprint100 what ? everything is in the mind of the person with the supernatural, ever notice... nothing just happens there is a reason behind it, a natural reason. have a look at alien abductions, do you believe them too....? What about schitzo's ? who see bugs crawling around the room, when there are no bugs in the room to every sane person ?
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot Not the same
buginyourear 2 months ago
@buginyourear yeh pretty much.
QuiteNot 1 month ago
@cheetahprint100 I wouldn't call anyone a scientist it just gives them this self confidence.
fishrcoolturtles2 16 hours ago
That biologist is way off base, new age junk.
MegaDude1969 7 months ago
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God says not all can see.. only those who believe will see
courage9070 7 months ago
Bollocks! these are people who fabricate and then convince themselves. It happens a lot.
verminpants 8 months ago
@verminpants The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6
BereanBeacon1 8 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 Still bollocks!
verminpants 6 months ago
Beware and test the spirit. Satan himself can appear as an angel of light.
I'm not saying that all angels are demons, but they can be.
udanbug 9 months ago
@udanbug Amen to that most people are deceived in this video i would say.
danwazhere7 4 months ago
@danwazhere7 The little girls said she saw a female angel...only one problem, God doesn't create Female Angels. Perhaps she was confusing an angel with long hair as being a female angel.
mookixox 2 months ago
@mookixox Others have given witness to an Angel being female, if we take Angels as being spirits, they then take the physical form.
MultiBurtons 1 month ago
@udanbug UFO's/aliens are the fallen angels. What people call 'ghosts' are the offspring of women and UFO's/aliens (known as demons).
mookixox 2 months ago
And for your moral law statement. So you're saying I don't have morals? Well, that's fine and dandy. But the US prisons are mostly Christian (76.6%), and some major Countries in Europe /are/ primarily atheist, Sweden for example, is one of the most peaceful countries on the planet and mostly Atheist.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego I asked you a specific question: As an atheist/agnostic do you believe in the existence of evil? And as for your Christian prison statistic...Well, no one said Christians are perfect, that's not the premise. The point is, there is a distinction between endorsed acts and those that jeopardize a person's salvation. Compared to the prescriptions of Islam, one would have to be a complete moron not to note the difference. And the US is a Christian country, so your point is...
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
You're trying to justify religion as being nothing but peace, but I can list off countless rebuttals. I live in the US, and it's not a christian nation (per the government), but it is christian population, which is scary. I think you've become blinded that Islam is evil, but you ignore atrocities committed by your own religion, and even in your 'bible' it's still pretty bad, not as bad as the OT or KJV, but still bad nonetheless.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Absolutely not, if only for the reason that as a Christian, I cannot BS you or anyone else and remain credible, that I'm not in need of constant correction. Christ, Christianity, acknowledges that humanity is inherently destructive, that no one is "good" in it's perfect sense. No one. So the notion that atrocities are exempt from Christians isn't consistent with the Christians need for Christ. The difference is, Islam actually defines a muslim, by violence, not in spite of it.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@radioactiveego A good litmus test would be to compare the two societies, foibles and all. On the one hand you can live in Iran. On the other the US. As an atheist/agnostic, may I kindly suggest you choose Door # 2, and remain in the US? Only in the reality of actual repressive societal existence, would you see with clarity, just how Judeo Christian, your right to disbelieve really is. Back to the question, do you believe in the existence of evil?
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
Just because the Media says it's Iran is this or that, doesn't make it true, similarly, just because the bible says it doesn't make it true either.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego We can revisit Islam and Iran another time, for now, I just need you to confirm that by affirming Evil exists (Which you have) that you also necessarily assert that Good exists. Is that a fair assumption, given you believe in the existence of Evil?
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 why would anyone even say that...for evil to exist god mustn't exist is more likely.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot Why would you think that?
NilDesperandum777 6 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 i mean good and evil exists, there is no doubt but that doesn't prove god, i have heard so many falacies on here but that is a doosey.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot It proves a moral law, correct?
NilDesperandum777 6 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 Well kind of, there is law, black and white laws/morals. but there are moral laws which are subjective. like lusting, adultery, anger, saying unkind things, etc...
No point in worrying about little wrongs like these, except adultery. Everyone agrees on these things in a civilized society anyway. There common sense like all countries had basically the same laws. Everyone agreed in punishing crimes, like murder, assault, stealing, etc.. nothing new or revolutionary about it.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
Jesus moral teachings were basically the same as Buddha's and other philosophers, he was around the same time as when the old testament was thought to be written. So really yeh....you got nothing.
Why hijack the moral conscience for yourself ? that's what all religions have done, so many, many religions...all man made you believe but your one is absolutely right.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
It's just a nice comfy blanket to snuggle up in. It makes you feel good like you know the truth, but so do all religions. It's just a big fat lie to make you feel better.
Think about those new age things, like think about something and you will get it. Same as inside is God's spirit and he lives in you guiding you into becoming better, same as Lord Zenu and the fetons, or Lord Lunos who gives you life forces from the moon,. Just try to disprove Lunos.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot You seem to be working awfully hard to attempt and disprove the source of hope for many people...I wonder why that is? Because surely if people who believed wanted to feel something other than what actually gives them comfort, they would seek it, with no need of assistance from you...As for disproving Lord Lunos, I assume you know and represent his/her/it's attributes as a working theology, right?
NilDesperandum777 6 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 a derpy derp de twiddly derp, a derpa derpa dumb
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 just like people fall for religion, they get influenced to believe it, no one is born knowing about the bible, it is taught. So you need to be deprogrammed, the best way is by making people think. People do things against their own will all the time, not doing what they truly want to do.
btw i'm not saying everyone had the same laws but basically the same. U know assault, rape, murder is wrong, etc..get punished for doing wrong. Of course not everyone followed the law. ;)
QuiteNot 6 months ago
Religion is just a (eternal) life policy. people believe cause they don't want to take the risk of being sent to hell, for being wrong about the bible.
I have been looking at the beliefs in the bible, quran, my own, other faiths. And it doesn't matter what it says I just don't believe in God. I prayed to him, ask to guide me, help me, the next morning my lack of faith just grows stronger, I always seem to say to myself in the morning, did I pray last night I must have been tired. ; )
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot It's apparent you have a lot of passion about your position but not a whole lot of information. Best of luck with your version of history and theology.
NilDesperandum777 6 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 heh, no ones perfect, just how i feel. You got to be honest with yourself. remember a house cannot stand divided....
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot Well if you're using Lincoln's speech or his paraphrase of Christ's statement from whence the saying originated, it has little in context to do with a person's honesty to one's conscience and everything to do with unity towards common ends and goals...interesting you to defer to His wisdom in one case and not in others - speaking of honesty. But again, take care.
NilDesperandum777 6 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 huh ?
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot That's entirely incorrect. Jesus pointed to Himself as the moral law, and specifically outlined the mechanism of sin and what singular solution to the forgiveness and cessation of sin was, namely, Himself. Christ pointed to a specific reality after death that consisted of two ends. Siddartha pointed to the amorphous Nirvana as life's (and the individual's identity) end. his moral precepts didnt begin to address Christ's intensity nor specificity. As for philosophers in general....
NilDesperandum777 6 months ago
@QuiteNot Actually, the moral law - distinctions between "Good" and "Bad" actually is very revolutionary in the sense that there is a time in which these "basic concepts" did not exist, nor were generally apprehended by societies at large. "Civilized society" as you put it, is a dubious description at best, and a statement that ignores actual history at worst. And we can go down the line if you like...IF there is a moral law, there must be a moral law giver, would you agree or not?
NilDesperandum777 6 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 I believe we are all the same. So someone had to come up with these idea's and they caught on because they make good sense. like I said all people from all nations who had no contact with each other had the same laws.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot You're entitled to any belief you like, but history doesn't support this notion, that everyone, everywhere had the same concept of "civil society" as you're positing. Concepts that promote general welfare, charity in a societal application and other elements you "think" existed for "all time" were revolutionary to the Christian community and there filtering system. "Good sense" after all, doesnt throw sick infants off of cliffs now does it?
NilDesperandum777 6 months ago
@NilDesperandum777 i believe jesus moral teachings were nothing new, Buddhist. And that all pagan sons of god, like Hercules and other deities had stories made up about them, did they really exist is about as important as did Jesus exist.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
Even the old testament sacrifices smacked of pagan origin. which ancient culture didn't have animal/human sacrifices as making the god/gods happy and atoning for sins.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
@QuiteNot it's more logical that way than the other way.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
Evil? Yea, it exists. It's in Leviticus and Deuteronomy (and other parts too), plus the Qu'ran, etc.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego I see. So you confirm evil exists. And do I take it from your answer that you believe, evil ONLY exists in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, other parts of the OT and in the Quran? Do I have this correct?
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
I'll go out on a limb and say that half the bible is full of violence, murder, etc. And the other half if full of mind swelling contradictions, and the supposed miracles are impossible and unprovable.
Evil is probably a group of people who throw smallpox infected blankets on Indians, or go on TV and say Indonesia got hit with an Earth Quake because they were atheists and god haters.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego . And by the existence of evil it's reasonable to assert that you also believe in the existence of Good, correct?
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Not so dissimilar from Sweden socially speaking, guess which country has the highest rate of suicide in the developed world? Norway. And as a side, Scandinavian societies aren't successful because there's a prevalence of Atheism, because point of fact they retain those Christian charitable qualities retained from the past. They are successful because their workforce to resource to industry input/output is so efficient. Havent you noticed all their flags have crosses on them?
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
I seen a flying spaghetti monster once.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego And when you saw it, did you have to pay Richard Dawkins royalties for parroting his pseudo-philosophical concoction? It's like if I was on a thread about something militantly atheistic and said, "I saw Cheetah (from Tarzan) dictating to Charles Darwin, who had to be disciplined by the chimp because Darwin kept eating his poo." It doesn't represent a single real thing about the Atheist position, unnecessarily discredits Darwin and mocks your position for it's own sake. Sheesh...
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
He (Dawkins) didn't come up with it, you uneducated Christian. A college kid did (Bobby Henderson), and sent a letter about it to the Kansas evolution hearings. So to answer your question, no.
Funny how I never mentioned Darwin, or Dawkins, or being an atheist. Good to know Christians still pass judgement on people who don't believe in nonsense!
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Find a single person who has used that phrase more than Richard Dawkins or who has enhanced his "brand" more on the phrase and I'll apologize.Because it has become so synonymous with Dawkins and militant Atheism, the reflex to ascribe your mimic wasn't nearly the kind of Google inducing reference hunt your citation makes it out to be. And as the apologetic bunny trail follows: Spaghetti Monster - Dawkins - Darwin. You're comment was rude and petty. My response - appropriate.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
Wikipedia: Flying Spaghetti Monster. Does the author say 'Richard Dawkins'? No, it does not. Did I/mean to introduce Dawkins in this conversation? Nope. You did. Did you accuse me of things based off of 7 words? Yes, you did. Am I agnostic? Yes, I am. Are you a Christian who believes in non-provable bronze age nonsense? Yes, you are. Are you a Christian Apologetic? Yes, you are.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Actually Einstein, Note 68 cites The God Delusion by Dawkins, which was my claim to reference, further that again, the qualification I set forth is impact of use, of which, NO ONE has had greater mileage or use than Richard Dawkins. It's original application? As satire against teaching ID. Your use? On a YT thread re: People Who Have Seen Angels. Distance of reasonable assumption? About two inches. Was I wrong in the assumption? Obviously not. Did your obfuscation work? Nope.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Part 2 - Your intent was meant to be sarcastic, mean spirited, demeaning. Once again: Obfuscation. And you're not very good at it. Then again neither are most militant atheists when pressed so, no surprises there. And as for "uneducated" sport, well, at the very least I know that what you meant to say was, "Are you a Christian APOLOGIST?" So the fact you answered your incorrect question, incorrectly, only proves the point now doesnt it? Yes. One can't be an "Apologetic", sport.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
That's nice. You keep accusing me of something I'm not. And yes, It was sarcasm of the highest degree.
Obfuscation you say? Well, I could go on and on about how the 'bible' is so obfuscated, and your response will be 'You didn't read it right' or 'You need to take this literally and that metaphorically'
Flying spaghetti monster will vomit sauce on your soul.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Hold on, so now you're not a mean spirited disbeliever, trolling on a thread full of people whose belief sets you mock, but somehow, someway you're being misunderstood? OK. Try again, friend. And the truth of it is, the assent to belief has nothing to do with Scripture alone. As to the process of belief, that's a mystery. But the truth of exegesis is, yes, you do have to EDUCATE yourself in a number of areas conjoined in meaning with specificity. Surely that should appeal to you?
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
You keep assuming way too much. Is this what all religious people do? Assume without facts? (Yes they do!).Let's recap
1.) You called me a militant atheists (3x). You assume this because of FSM.
2.) You mention 'Richard Dawkins', when I never mentioned him (period). Again, relate/FSM comment.
3.) You throw education innuendos at me (you're calling me uneducated).
Typical Christian.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego YOU addressed me as uneducated. I demonstrated you weren't ( "Apologetic" )on the matter. That's not an assumption. 1) I implied you are an atheist because your INSULT , only exists in one negative context towards Christians. Not an assumption. 2) Correct because the term is synonymous with his efforts. 3) I demonstrated where you were in error - "Apologetic" etc. By all means, peruse the exchange for verification. It's actually YOUR incorrect assumptions dying here, sport
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
That's nice. You didn't imply, you assumed (3 times). I told you, that you were in error (more than once.), and you continued. You are uneducated, and you assume way too much from short sentence.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego LOL, and again, the man who doesnt know the difference between apologetic and apologist adds imply and assumption to the list. I think you're under the apprehension that assumptions are equivocal with error. Well, they're not. Yes I assumed - CORRECTLY, that you disbelieve in the existence of God, and I did so on the evidence of the derogatory comment you provided. You may feel the distinction between an agnostic and atheist is monumental, but it's not. You should study more.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
Good for you. You don't know the difference between one of the other. (More assumptions!) Funny how Christians were born with telepathy.
Derogatory comment? Here goes. The christian god is a murdering, genocidal lunatic who advocates killing babies and butchering countless millions of people. If you gave nuclear weapon control to Pat Robinson or those other idiots like him, they would launch nuclear weapons at Iran and start WW3.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego What are you talking about? lol. You simply saying, "you dont know..." doesn't make it so. Anyone choosing to read any of this can verify that my contentions are correct and that you think by virtue of your chosen label are somehow "brighter". But what can you do when you're constantly corrected? I guess you have to say what you have, but sorry, friend, you just arent using the English language to the effect I think you think you're having. And that's not my problem, it's yours.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Part 2 - Pat Robinson? Do you mean Pat ROBERTSON? There's another assumption, right?You're drawing incorrect parallels. Christianity is not like Islam. The other, as touched on before is that Sacred Scripture is all literal. I would suggest reading the NT. I'd also suggest absorbing Micah 6:8 as a central descriptor of Christian obligation. But then, you're simply interested in remaining militant against Christianity, it explains the insult for insult sake comment you just left.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
*yawn*
Christianity is evil. No matter how you stack it. Most of all religions cannot agree with one another let alone themselves.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Truth is, an atheist/agnostic, you, from a worldview standpoint, can't logically justify morality OF ANY KIND, given the lack of a rational argument for moral law. Christianity is GOODNESS ITSELF. Human nature however, can be evil. Islam which orders murder and conquest from it's Book, is evil. You're simply either too lazy or too ignorant to know any better. Nietsche, surmised in order for atheism to remain justifiable, moralit must die. Dawkins agrees. Ergo, evil can't exist.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
Which aspect of religion do you feel helped us?
The Crusades? The Inquisition? Aztec Genocide? Locking up Galileo for life? Missionaries destroying entire cultures? Burning witchs? Nazi Death Camps? (Gott Mit Uns),? Burning Joan of Arc? Repressing Scientific and Medical research? The killing of Cherokee Indians by Missionaries with smallpox infected blankets?, The Ku Klux Klan? (A Christian organization), Muslims cutting off heads? I do not see any benefit from religion.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Well, firstly, your question presumes an incorrect premise. Namely that all religions are the same and have effected society equally. They're not and they haven't. Case in point. Not a whole lot of people from Europe and North America looking to set up shop in the Middle East. The former being the product of Judeo Christian values and efforts, the latter (Except it's best society: - Israel) formed by Islam. So the first obvious "help" is the construction of a superior society.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
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@NilDesperandum777
It's funny how Christians say Islam is evil, but if you look through all of the evil shit in the bible, you people don't even mention it. Western Society was influenced from the Romans. Our form of government, law, education, was mostly Roman and Greek. (And others that aren't mentioned, Egypt for certain things too).
I can't wait for Islam, Christianity and the other batshit crazy religions to go away.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Well it's a simple order of operations. OT, then NT. Another important distinction. Judaism evolved, which implies that the instructions they may have interpreted one way, were insufficient. For Christians, that insufficiency is perfected in the blameless life of Christ to which the NT records. And matter of fact, our common law is heavily reliant on the moral code set forth in Christianity, as was public education, hospitals, welfare states, etc...
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Part 2 - Those acts mentioned committed in the name of Christ are not endorsed by Sacred Scripture nor by any Christian maxim. Islam on the other hand, does advocate violence and as to it's "help"? Nothing. Can't wait for it to either evolve or die. The KKK is not a Christian organization despite claims to such. Western Society, it's laws, universities and systems of education are primarily Judeo Christian contributions. Your representation of the events is distorted. (Cont)
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
Part 2 -> And those things were done in the name of Christianity. No matter how you stack it, they were. You can say it wasn't until you're blue in the face, but they were all Christians. I guess the people who flew planes into buildings weren't Muslim, even though they worshiped Allah? Islam and Christians have something in common; Your holy books are full of nonsense and violence.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Part 3 - Distorted in the sense that the trial for Galileo showed he had support. But not enough. He was also funded by the RCC. So the notion that science and learning was "repressed" is idiotic and a popular, erroneous claim militant atheists feel possess merit. On a numbers by numbers basis, atheistic governments/regimes are by far the most intentionally brutal. And they do so because of their worldview, not in spite of it. Do I take it you dont believe evil exists?
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
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@NilDesperandum777
Galileo was arrested. Galileo was on house arrest for the rest of his life by saying that the Earth rotates around the Sun. This was considered Hersey. As for the governments comment, Of course they are. The leaders of those countries want to be looked at as a god (Look at N. Korea). So those countries can be considered religious, by their own terms.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Certainly, and now you're getting it. The only difference is, in those countries that you admit were worse, would identify you as a non-threat. You would be considered ideal,precisely because you believe as they did. Religious in their own terms, just as you define your worldview according to a set of beliefs. The difference in production of society however, is one that's measured between our Western democratic societies founded on Judeo Christian values and those that aren't.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@NilDesperandum777
I am not sure if they were worse, or they were not. Everyone in those countries died, religious people, gays, scientists, people who were a threat, were killed. They wanted to be worshiped as a god (old russian Czars were considered Demigods). Not really an atheist society, because there was still religion in the government, the head of the government was god.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
@radioactiveego It was a completely Atheistic society. There are an inordinate amount of testimonies attesting to the hellish reality of life in these Atheistic regimes. Literally, Fredrich Nietsche's statement that evil must not exist in order that the Atheist's worldview thrive took place. Richard Dawkins affirms this contention as the logical outgrowth of an Atheistic worldview. Eugenics confirm the same intent, that essentially renders humanity as devoid of anything valuable.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
@radioactiveego Part 3 - As for "non-provable bronze age nonsense", by all means, specify and we'll begin your primer on what constitutes evidence in circles where historicity is taken seriously. And question: What precisely does confirming that you disbelieve in the existence of God prove while attempting to establish your position as some reasonable middle on a thread obviously geared towards believers in the existence of God? Talk about nailing your little mean spirited self for what it is.
NilDesperandum777 10 months ago
I saw an angel while calling on the Name of Christ. A demon had me paralyzed in my sleep. I could not wake up. I said, ''Jesus?'' barely got it out, and as my eyes opened I saw His back. He was as 12 feet tall, his robe had no seams and was the brightness of the sun yet did not hurt my eyes, and he had a demon by his right hand leading it away. I saw only the back of his head, hair dark and cut blunt, no wings, maybe a ministering Spirit.
GodsSeer 11 months ago
I`m so glad the woman got to know her husband was ok so she could have some peace.
latehare1 11 months ago
My sister saw angels when she was little....she said that they were bright and all she could see was their feet standing
sararudd92 1 year ago
I had my encounter when I was five. I remember it as if it were yesterday, yet that is the only memory I have. I confirm feelings of peace and everything is going to be fine. I'm 35 now, and had it not been for the Angel, I probably would have been atheist. I fear not death anymore for the love of God has allowed me to have this encounter. Thank you Jesus for forgiveness and most of all, Salvation!
NeckSpazm 1 year ago
Praise Jesus, he is are savior!
breezypaola2 1 year ago
Don't fall in the hands and these modern groups that teach that every thing is ok, those that teach that there's no hell. Believe my words: there's hell. and a place you have no means, way to know and comprehend how horrible it is. A place that is more real and palpable than your own skin. Only God is real and His Justice. Follow God and His Love, don't let friends, bad books and videos like that influence you, angels and the Kingdom of God does not belong to this world. Find Christ TODAY!
laurids2007 1 year ago
Read also the book of the exorcists of today (ex: Bishop Gabrielle Amorth), to understand how S. and their slaves from hell work in our world, how many people got influenced, possessed by the evil spirits... follow the good teachings of the Saints, of those that were dedicated to the Church blessed by Jesus himself: The Roman Catholic Church. Believe me, because I have learned through my own mistakes. I would not like to see other brothers falling in the same sins I committed. Follow Christ!
laurids2007 1 year ago
Many of these people are saying or affirming things according to the teachings of their masters linked to the New Age groups. Don't follow these ideas, these philosophies. If you want to know more about the life before death, the spiritual world and the teaching according to God, look for the books of the most holy souls that lived in our world: Maria Alacoque, Saint Theresa D'Avila, Saint Brigitte of Sweden. Follow those that sacrificed their lives for the Love of God. Read their books.
laurids2007 1 year ago
Angels & the dead ones aren't in our material world. Our world is totally disconnected from the spiritual world, the only way to know it, cross over is when we die. Angels (good & evil) are the only ones who cross this limit. The good ones for doing God's will, the bad ones to do the Evil. The dead once dead, cross once, are judged, never come back. There were cases when they came back because God decided so, but this happened once in a million years - it's all according to God's will.
laurids2007 1 year ago
The DEAD know nothing,evil angels can inpersonate dead humans.once a human is dead,he canot come back from the state of death to communicate with humans,it is written in the bible.
macal38 1 year ago
I know for truth that Angles are real.They are with GOD and with us and have been from the beginning.I have seen both good and bad from a young age all so they are righting in these books on our lives.A Spirit told me these things.
MrFreaky55 1 year ago
WHOS THE NON BELIVING BITTCH IN THE GREEN JACKET
SHES HELL BOUND
72deamons 1 year ago
ANGELS are not fucking humans.
I consider humans to be evil, so does 65% of the rest of humanity. There is no humanity. We are more a demon than an angel. Just look around, we are actualling LIVING right now, in a HELL.
esrapk 1 year ago
Wow its amazing how people still believe in the supernatural...just THINK for a second...as David Hume once said...what is more likely that the laws of nature were suspended in your favor or that your under a misapprehension...
PuroAguacateros 1 year ago
always wanted to see an angel but what i'm really sure I saw was only a stinking demon iwas scared and I turned my head towards the wall and when I looked back it was gone it is evidence that things really do exist in the spirit. Scientists are always trying to figure out everything they even come up with things like humans were from monkeys and people actually believe that and they never even seen people like that but when people say that they've seen spirits they think we got a brain disorder?
skategoddess123 1 year ago
I was allowed to see angels several times. I took photos of a fallen angel (devil) accidentally and got into life threatening trouble. I am now a Christian. Praise GOD. Angels are not to be messed around with, or investigated, and nor are they required to give us evidence of their existence. I was lead straight to JESUS CHRIST and The Bible by ministering angels. They do not want us worshipping them. Holy angels work for GOD, but all angels know The Bible as The Truth.
voyagersystem 1 year ago
these people are severly deprivedof oxygen to the brain!
timsh6 1 year ago
Why don't you take picture of the angels when they are outside your head ?
reason1able 1 year ago
People that have seen angels are either lying or insane
max2right 1 year ago
scientist are all wrong i love the saying scientist will one day prove what mystic's already know.
cifa2510 1 year ago
If you ever worked in an insane asylum, you will meet people who are convinced they are an angel, even those who claim to be Jesus in person.
lizazoon 1 year ago
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Angels are childish fantasy.
lizazoon 2 years ago
What reason?
Why do they need wings?
gregrutz 2 years ago
God has shown my wife angels on 3 different occasions in the last year. Right after we gave our lives to Jesus. Praise God Almighty!
jevil1979 2 years ago 18
Hmmmm why didn't HE show them to you?
cher73 2 years ago
@jevil1979 Ahh...sorry bout that. very unfortunate
lashlashlashlashlash 1 year ago
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@jevil1979 The Trinity. The Father, The Son and The HolySpirit.
ruflychux 11 months ago
@jevil1979 Yeh and all religious people say they witnessed their deity of choice, American Indians used to see the eagle and bear, etc...their spirit guide. I have dreams too...
Ever seen someone with no faith whatsoever see anything like this...? makes you wonder don't it, the power of the mind and will and shit.
QuiteNot 6 months ago
Some swear they saw their parents spirits, ancestor worship people
Some people swear they were abducted by aliens several times, etc.. what do you think about those experiences ? Where do you draw the line on ridiculous ?
QuiteNot 6 months ago
Stigmata, shows that the mind has the ability to make imaginary things real to them and even others. Makes you think...
QuiteNot 6 months ago
I believe that there are angels around us because on several occasion I have a feeling as if someone is directing me in case I have lost something there is away I feel the presence to where the particular thing I am looking for is located. Thank God for these signs otherwise many don't even believe there is GOD anywhere or any existance of all you have witnessed. Be blessed and bless us too in the name of Jesus.
Bulangenddd 2 years ago
If you want to see angels be christian
SuperSaiyen100 2 years ago
blah blah its chemical bull crap. I hate theist and arrogant people. Their so blind in the worlds ways they dont percieve the real facts of the bibe. they can only quote what ever they want, their the ignorant ones who get left behind.. Smoke weed it will do your brain right ya athiest
Joklor33 2 years ago
Well some of us have seen them in a normal frame of mind - and come in power. We are surrounded by the supernatural and I could care less about snotty arrogant atheists or those self proclaimed geniuses who think they dictate reality. Their time is about up.
Masonictoaster9 2 years ago
Thank you for posting because my father past away June 2006 and now my mother is just too close to death but this has caused hope for them to be safe where they go and I will be able to see them when I get there. I haven't seen one but I believe that there are real.
Bulangenddd 3 years ago
2 Corinthians 11:14
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."
joroma77 3 years ago
that's right but there is a way to test them...I need to see where it is in the bible again
blousu08 2 years ago
Easiest way to test and angel is to ask them who Jesus Christ is.
jevil1979 2 years ago 16
I, myself, have seen an angel 15 years ago. He appeared to be a young man in his early 20's, long blond curly hair above the shoulders, white robe, white wings, & fair complexion. It was only for a short moment but I knew what I saw. If it was Satan, he only proved that God does truly exist, by he, Satan, foolishly appearing himself. Satan is not that dumb. Why would he appear as an angel if he truly wanted people to lose faith In God? Take care.
earthenly 2 years ago
Atheists are the ones who are seeing illusions.
Yeah I hope they die and see Angels like i did then return to Earth so they can see for themselves and tell all the other delusional atheists whats up.
gween 3 years ago
not mention in this. However, it's good many people do believe in the spiritual realm regardless of the opinions of many atheistic scientists. People many of these kinds of people with their jaded points of views are misguided about eternity. There's no mention about eternal hell nor heaven. There's a lack of Biblical point of view. I'm a born again Christian & I do have some fears of death. I'll probably will receive some negative comments on this one. Are any of these people born again Chris--
candlace 3 years ago
What's up with all these Euroean looking angels? Some of then is also half naked. What an abomination. Didn't God in His word condemns the making of carved, or any form of anything that is in heaven above, beneath the earth, or in the water under the earth acoording to the 2nd of th 10 Commandments in EX.20:4-6. All angelic beings aren't the same, they are all distintive in appearence. Also, there are far too people relying on the presence & powers of angels. Where is God in all this? Jesus is--
candlace 3 years ago
Angels are big Business$
wwwFamilyPrideOrg 3 years ago
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I guess the People in Japan Horishima and Nagasachi were able to see Angels before they were blasted to bits
wwwFamilyPrideOrg 3 years ago
Love it! L-M-F-A-O! And then some.
goebels99 3 years ago
the annoying sceptics spoil a good doc. thanks
jonbob100 3 years ago
1) The "holy angels" in the Bible were sent by "The Word of God", the Lord Jesus Christ, with "the word of God", "the holy scriptures". Where is "the word of God" and "the testimony of Jesus Christ" in these "angelic" visitations?
wezand2 3 years ago 2
2) There are no female angels in the Bible. The apostle Paul said, "I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious." (Acts 17:22)
wezand2 3 years ago
3) Do the dead ever return to their homes after death to bring comfort? "As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. He shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him any more." (Job 7:9,10). Jesus said, "If they hear not Moses and the prophets [the scriptures], neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." (Luke 16:19-31)
wezand2 3 years ago
4) "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:" (1 John 4:1) "for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." (II Cor. 11:14). "Prove all things" "by the word of God", the Holy Bible. (I Thess. 5:21; II Tim. 2:15; Rom. 10:17); "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices." (II Cor. 2:11)
wezand2 3 years ago
5) "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;" (I Tim. 4:1). Each time the devil, "an angel of light", appeared to our Lord, Jesus rebuked him with the scriptures: "It is written...." "It is written...." "it is written...." (Mat. 4:4,7,10). "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." (Isa. 8:20)
wezand2 3 years ago
6) Jesus said, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures" (Mat. 22:29). "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." (John 17:17); "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (II Thes. 2:11,12); "and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing them to err." (Isa. 30:28)
wezand2 3 years ago
7) "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen." (II Pet. 3:17,18)
wezand2 3 years ago
I know there are good ones there. But I havent seen one yet.
tobigforyou 3 years ago
after my experiences with angels, I do not trust them at all. Be careful Dave if you see angels. test all they do to the last letter agaisnt the word of God. I dont trust them
tobigforyou 3 years ago
this is really decieving , non of the testimonies , test the spirits they saw, and the Bible states what angels are , and what happens when people die, they just go to sleep, everything stops until they are resurrected when Jesus comes or they are resurrected for condemnation and thrown to the lake of fire to be destroyed. Read the storry of Lot in the bible thats one amazing angel story.
pelitomojao 3 years ago
amazing. But also you have to becareful with angel visions, not all of them are good. satan can appear as an angel of light. I had a few of these"bad angels...lok like good angels visions. they did not decieve me only thanks to the word of God. I tested what they said based on the word of God and it did not match and I rebuked them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and I have not seen them since.
tobigforyou 3 years ago
People have seen leprechauns, supposedly of course.
sweatytoothmadman 3 years ago