To earlier commebt... @28:30... If black takes knight... It results in no wosre position on queen vs queen with white up 3 pawns... I am no chess expert but white queen takes pawn check... Rook rank 8 check...exchange rook check... Queen takes knight
@punkmanzz The commentator didn't say Deep Blue allegedly cheated, but that IBM allegedly cheated. The allegation by Kasparov basically was/is that one or more world class *human* Grandmasters "helped" Deep Blue in game 2.
"..Garry Kasparov can now come to G5 threatening check-mate here on G2, if white plays pawn to G2 Garry Kasparov can now come down and take this rook here on C1. Unfortunately for Garry Kasparov, he's playing a super computer and super computers don't fall for mind tricks"
@msquar2ed ... A lot of ways: when a player gets help from a third-party during the game... when playing an ilegal move hoping the other player won´t notice... a fixed clock... tapping the clock w/o playing so the other player loses 1 or 2 seconds. In Kasparov v. IBMs Deep Blue case, he claimed the first one.
@msquar2ed Take a look at Wikipedia Kasparov vs Deep Blue 1997 Game 6. Kasparov makes an opening mistake on move 7 resulting in a knight sacrifice by the computer. according to Wiki, the sac was well-known in opening theory, and the opening book was programmed into Deep Blue, but at the time compter programs were not strong enough to find this move without one.
Fuck Deep Blue's 1997 victory. Why did they not accept another rematch? I say Kasparov beat artificial intelligence. (At least when he won there was no controversy) There is a domain where humans are better than computers. And that is CHESS!
At minute 28:30, black should capture the white Knight on f7 with his Queen. White could not capture the black Queen after that, because Blck would do Check Mate after that with Rook to h1.... So its not a good move that black moves his King to g7... or am i wrong?
@Hammerscare I've been seeing these words (chess interface) a lot... What do they mean?? I know what an interface is, but chess players are always talking about "chess interfaces" and "chess engines" , and I don't understand. I use/play Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition...
@HuumpDutchDodgers Chess engine is the program which "plays" Chess and communicates its move to the chess interface which does the job of displaying the board and the pieces. Chessmaster consists of both.
Queen e5 exchange? loses after Queen takes f7 threatening mate in one, and forces him to exchange both his queen and his rook, witch would be deadly anyways since white is up in material and has 2 passed pawns -.-
@neo34rd if queen takes knight on f7, Qxd4+ Kg8, Rc8+ and black loses his mate threat because the white king can't move and his best move is Re8. Then white can just capture the rook with check and take the knight and white is up 3 pawns.
At about 6:50 when White moves P to H3...why not do that before instead of the Bishop to E2? Could you not just move the pawn first and bring the Bishop out second or is it a matter of tempo and development?
if Qxf7+Qxd4, Kg7+Qxf2 (the only move white could do to prevent a checkmate for himself), Qxc7+Qxe1,Qc2check+Kg1/h1/Qe2,Qxb2... white is still protecting the pawn on f3.. Kasparov couldve atleast got a draw here..
at 28:30 why doesnt kasparov take the knight on f7 with his queen? that queen would have been spared because kasparov was 1 move away from checkmate anyways.. and blue would have been down a knight
@squirreley2 i have the same question... i really dont get it there is no ways for white to win this game, unless we are both missing something important.. sigh.. i really cant see it
@squirreley2 because after Qxd4+ Kg8, Rc8+ black is forced to bring back the rook to defend his king. If not he ends up getting checkmated or being forced to exchange queen for rook leaving white with a winning ending
I don't really think that the lightsquare bishop is white's best bishop, or the darksquare bishop is black's best bishop, that changes along with the pawn structure
Can you guys recommend a good free chess engine.I downloaded Rybka 2.3.2a (Tarrasch interface) to solve checkmate in 2 problems.....but the engine could not come up with the solution. The book is by B.P. Barnes and the moves are really difficult to spot
@berciks You can obviously use this(or something similar) in low-level chess, but in high level someone would probably notice. Against a computer, you can't cheat :)
I don't like so much the way that computers play chess. There is something that I can't explain that I don't like it and make it very boring for me, but I enjoyed a lot this video a lot. Even if you don't like how computers play chess, I think we can learn a lot from them.
Kevin, I love the way you explain the little details that really make the difference like the double pawns on this game. I would like you to make it more often.
I hope you'll make thousands more of videos like this!
It was interesting to hear a human's analysis of AI's thinking. Thanks, Keving. Yeah, it looks like a typical chess AI strategy - no crazy attacks, just gaining small increments through the game - a doubled pawn here, passive move there - and after all that adds up in the end of the middle game the AI launches its only and last attack.
On minute 27, you think Kasparov could have gotten a tie by exchanging queens? Really? Down a pawn, with a horrible pawn structure, against a rook on the 7th rank and two connected passed pawns? Versus a super computer? If you can tie that position against me, I'll buy you a Ferrari. Kasparov did exactly what you have to do in that kind of situation: keep the game complicated.
27:00 why does black not use his knight, d3 to f4 (pawn can't take it because of the rook) and at the same time attacking the white queen? then knight kan check the king on h3 on the next move....
@varmman Hes prety threatened by whites queen and the queen can just move to d7 protects h pawn and threatens forced queen trade. he also doesnt want a passed b pawn. there are many many reason not to move the knight
some constructive criticism hopefully. your chess vocabulary, or just vocabulary in general, seems to be...lacking. i guess i'm assuming (based on what? i don't know) you're an above 2000 player but your videos certainly do not reflect that or anything close to it really. i don't like how you analyze games either. doesn't seem to have much breadth or depth. dunno. i much prefer kingscrusher or sean g godley but i appreciate your efforts nonetheless.
18:21 Kasparov would've been better of playin Na5 forcing the knight to either capture the bishop or knight or push up his pawn at e6 which gives him the chance to lose the double pawn.
you gotta hurry up and post the game where kasparov won. cant wait to see the super computer get its ass handed to it....or whatever computers use as an ass.
@spinthepen There's only one reason for this. If he goes for Bxd4 then white can play Nxd4 which pretty much makes him lose material.If you are wondering as to why, take note that the knight from c6 cannot capture with Nxd4 since White can just play Qg4 check and also forking the undefended knight.
The controversy later, as I understood it, was that IBM refused to show the workings of the computer to Kasparow...insinuating that the computer had some human help, as it were. IBM quickly refused to show any of the workings and destroyed the cvomputer after the rematch, adding weight to the suspicion that they were covering up something.
Can't wait to see the analysis of game 2 of 1997, and your take on the controversy. Was it a suspect move by a computer than only a person would make? Did Kasparov just panic and love and give this excuse?
kasparov won on 1996, then won the first game on 1997 in a really easy way. then IBM team made of idiots decided to cheat giving deep blue an human assistance choosing the best move from the candidates that it find out. not so hard to understand.
@Riuhkuhku yeah that's right - the documentary was uploaded by SearchBucket who's had gis channel terminated: pretty conclusive IBM cheated -they refused to release the logs when they had no good reason not to -doing so would've shown decisively whether they were or weren't. Their share price skyrocketed. Deep Blue was a cynical cash cow creation that they immediately retired refusing Gazza a rematch
@Bulbapuck while Kaparov still would have been losing, you are exactly right, Qxf7 probably would have been a much better move. Qxf7 36. Qd8 Kg7 37. Rxf7 Kxf7 38. Qd5+. Def bad position for black but much better than what was played in the game.
@thechesswebsite I think that would have been a bad move by Kasparov simply because Qxf7 36. Qxd4+ giving white the free knight on f2. In my opinion it was well played by Kasparov simply because he's trying to avoid the combinations that white can get checkmate with. Nice video though, I always watch your channel =)
@Bulbapuck If Qxf7, then white plays Qxd4+. Kg8, Rc8+, Re8, Rxe8+, Qxe8, Qxf2 winning the knight back, as well as a pawn on d4 in the process. White is now up 2 pawns (with better pawn structure), and though it is black's turn, the black queen will be on e8 where it can do no good. White is likely to win in this position.
@inSiGniaaa That runs into the same problem though. Qxf7, Qxd4+, Kg8, Rc8+, Qf8, correct? After this, Rxf8+, Kxf8, Qxf2. The mate threat is gone now that the knight is gone. Basically what has happened here is that the knights were traded off, white traded a rook for black's queen and white won the pawn on d4.
Even if black plays Re2 after Qxf2 (best move), white can play Kg1, and after the trade and the following turn, white will have 4 pawns against black's 1 pawn (h7). White will surely win.
Chess isn't just about all brainpower. I believe its also about psychology. You can sort of trick your opponents into making blunders when certain pieces are under pressure such as the King and the Queen.
I think its important to recognize this is Kasparov`s first game against Deep blue, The creators of Deep Blue could analyze every game of Kasparov while Kasparov knew little about the computer, a lot of the prodding moves by Kasparov may have just been to see how the computer reacts and prioritizes things
Good analysis, thanks for the post ! You always have a good commentary. Definitely good opportunities for discussion in this match, particularly the visible differences in computer/human play that come in later games (and all the controversy that comes with it) ! Cheers
i dont get it... kasparov said that IBM cheated but I've seen that game many times and i dont see how they cheated.... what arguments did kasparov had when he accused them of cheating?
@darwincosadr He thinks that they had another grand master in the room with deep blue to intervene if he saw fit, computers are short term oriented, they try to gain as much material as possible and end up with the most advantageous position, Kasperov attempted to trick the computer into taking an advantageous position which he felt would lead to a worse position later on but instead Deep blue chose to make a move that wasnt as mathematically good but lead to better position later on, very human
@darwincosadr I saw a show about it somewhere (maybe on Youtube). Kasparov was losing, so he played a desperation move: he sacked a pawn, confident DB would take it, since computers play just to gobble material. But DB played a different move. Kasparov immediately knew what had happened.
@darwincosadr He claimed IBM had someone relatively skilled in chess who saw the desperate sack for what it was, so when the computer came up with candidate moves, he or she simply deleted the first move, which would have been to take the pawn. Had this person not done so, DB would have taken the pawn and maybe, just maybe Kasparov would have drawn. The controversy came when IBM refused to release the DB's candidate moves from the entire match, which would have proven Kasparov right or wrong.
@chessenthusiast Normally in chess programs, candidate moves to consider may vary over time even for the same chess position and are not stored anywhere but in temporary memory, so if this was the case, it would actually be impossible for IBM to comply with his request. Unless of course they had an actual log of all the candidate moves suggested by Deep Blue. They might have had that. But keeping such a log could arguably slow down the program too much, so perhaps not.
@NisseHult101 I'm not sure about keeping candidate moves anywhere but temporary memory, but I remember there was a log of moves that IBM refused to release, and that was the controversy, because IBM could have laid suspicions to rest but didn't. This, of course, fanned the flames and led to even more accusations. Hopefully Kevin can address that when he makes his video on the 1997 series.
At 28:30 I would have sacrificed the black queen for checkmate in the on coming move so that Black actually wins or at least take a lead.
chrispyery 3 days ago
this is soooo different from the game i play especially the rook i usually use it when my bishop is taken. definitely learnt something thanks kevin!
eman6538 6 days ago
You go over the basics quite a bit. You should make more some game reviews for more advanced players. I'm going to subscribe anyways :)
tonyfalca 1 week ago
Killer! TANK YOU. TANK YOU.
tonyfalca 1 week ago
game 6 game 6
jeromck 1 week ago
To earlier commebt... @28:30... If black takes knight... It results in no wosre position on queen vs queen with white up 3 pawns... I am no chess expert but white queen takes pawn check... Rook rank 8 check...exchange rook check... Queen takes knight
vinni522 2 weeks ago
Great game, great analysis and wonderfully annotated :) I'm definately watching more of your vidoes for sure!
harKazoid86 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
great videos overall...thumbs up 4sure
Pyro7502 3 weeks ago
@phamm17 White wouldn't immediately retake because of black's next move checkmate.
If black Qxf7, then Qd8+ Kg7 Rxf7+ Kxf7 Qd5+, at which point black is pretty fucked.
gastro54 3 weeks ago
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gastro54 3 weeks ago
1:00 how the fuck a computer can cheat ??
punkmanzz 1 month ago
@punkmanzz The commentator didn't say Deep Blue allegedly cheated, but that IBM allegedly cheated. The allegation by Kasparov basically was/is that one or more world class *human* Grandmasters "helped" Deep Blue in game 2.
griek1 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
"..Garry Kasparov can now come to G5 threatening check-mate here on G2, if white plays pawn to G2 Garry Kasparov can now come down and take this rook here on C1. Unfortunately for Garry Kasparov, he's playing a super computer and super computers don't fall for mind tricks"
AHAHAHHAHA
v1991c 1 month ago
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999Niels999 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
You never respond to comments dude.... Awesome vids though. :(
SuperShamrock1234 1 month ago
Wait you said Kasparov said Deep Blue cheated. How can you cheat in chess?
msquar2ed 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@msquar2ed ... A lot of ways: when a player gets help from a third-party during the game... when playing an ilegal move hoping the other player won´t notice... a fixed clock... tapping the clock w/o playing so the other player loses 1 or 2 seconds. In Kasparov v. IBMs Deep Blue case, he claimed the first one.
LitiDude 1 month ago
@msquar2ed Take a look at Wikipedia Kasparov vs Deep Blue 1997 Game 6. Kasparov makes an opening mistake on move 7 resulting in a knight sacrifice by the computer. according to Wiki, the sac was well-known in opening theory, and the opening book was programmed into Deep Blue, but at the time compter programs were not strong enough to find this move without one.
tbaum74 1 month ago
17:13, Nd7 forking the rook and queen?
JustCrowned 2 months ago
LOL! "a3 you might as well turn the video off right now..." Too funny!
SunRunnerNY 2 months ago
didn't know you could castle on the queen's side... :P
yisoonshin12 2 months ago
i think castling is the worst thing u can do i got cornered by a bishop the hole game and yes i moved my pawns and i spelt it like dis on purpose
emangamerdude6 2 months ago
Yu completely missed the purpose of some of these moves! But I think Kasparov did worse and missed the checkmate...
RaD1K4l 2 months ago
At 17:01 the threat is Nd7 forking the rook and queen if the queen takes...?
iliginjaili 2 months ago
Fuck Deep Blue's 1997 victory. Why did they not accept another rematch? I say Kasparov beat artificial intelligence. (At least when he won there was no controversy) There is a domain where humans are better than computers. And that is CHESS!
PSspecialist 2 months ago
@PSspecialist Idk, computers are pretty good at chess, but they're no match for me at kickboxing
Scr3amingN1nja47 1 month ago
I believe in Kasparov. Period. The IBM rooms were stacked with elser chess players ask them!!
tonyrosam 2 months ago
At minute 28:30, black should capture the white Knight on f7 with his Queen. White could not capture the black Queen after that, because Blck would do Check Mate after that with Rook to h1.... So its not a good move that black moves his King to g7... or am i wrong?
iorte1 3 months ago
@iorte1 yea i was thinking the same thing why didnt he do that white king was not safe at all it was cheakmate in one move
10xXxtailedxXxdemon 2 months ago
7:36 why not pawn to g4 quickly, taking/removing bishop before castling?
funnymadman4 3 months ago
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knifed91 3 months ago
so awesome. love these videos!
hpduong 3 months ago
Nice video. Which chess interface is this?
Hammerscare 4 months ago
@Hammerscare I've been seeing these words (chess interface) a lot... What do they mean?? I know what an interface is, but chess players are always talking about "chess interfaces" and "chess engines" , and I don't understand. I use/play Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition...
HuumpDutchDodgers 3 months ago
@HuumpDutchDodgers Chess engine is the program which "plays" Chess and communicates its move to the chess interface which does the job of displaying the board and the pieces. Chessmaster consists of both.
Hammerscare 3 months ago
My cellphone's chess app is now more powerful than deep blue...... :)
gkcnae 4 months ago 4
@gkcnae Ha! I Play Mine ("Chess Free" on Android) Every Where I Go.
HuumpDutchDodgers 3 months ago
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You talk too much..
RawlstonLee 4 months ago
schach-brett.de
Schachbenno 4 months ago
In depth chess!
VindexVladek 4 months ago
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Gnosiophobic 5 months ago
Queen e5 exchange? loses after Queen takes f7 threatening mate in one, and forces him to exchange both his queen and his rook, witch would be deadly anyways since white is up in material and has 2 passed pawns -.-
qurdel1 5 months ago
a3, you might as well wanna turn off the video
BAHAHA XD
Peyoutreaux 5 months ago 53
@Peyoutreaux i came here to say this
4rkatyp3 1 week ago
@thechesswebsite at 28:31 the queen can take the knight at f7 right? since black threatens Rh1#.
neo34rd 5 months ago
@neo34rd if queen takes knight on f7, Qxd4+ Kg8, Rc8+ and black loses his mate threat because the white king can't move and his best move is Re8. Then white can just capture the rook with check and take the knight and white is up 3 pawns.
greatcornholio 4 months ago
great analysis im learning a lot.
bjjmatador10 5 months ago 17
"puttin' a lot of pressure..." :)
DragonBice 6 months ago
At about 6:50 when White moves P to H3...why not do that before instead of the Bishop to E2? Could you not just move the pawn first and bring the Bishop out second or is it a matter of tempo and development?
harryfromwork 6 months ago in playlist More videos from thechesswebsite
if Qxf7+Qxd4, Kg7+Qxf2 (the only move white could do to prevent a checkmate for himself), Qxc7+Qxe1,Qc2check+Kg1/h1/Qe2,Qxb2... white is still protecting the pawn on f3.. Kasparov couldve atleast got a draw here..
inSiGniaaa 6 months ago
at 28:30 why doesnt kasparov take the knight on f7 with his queen? that queen would have been spared because kasparov was 1 move away from checkmate anyways.. and blue would have been down a knight
squirreley2 6 months ago
@squirreley2 i have the same question... i really dont get it there is no ways for white to win this game, unless we are both missing something important.. sigh.. i really cant see it
inSiGniaaa 6 months ago
@squirreley2 because after Qxd4+ Kg8, Rc8+ black is forced to bring back the rook to defend his king. If not he ends up getting checkmated or being forced to exchange queen for rook leaving white with a winning ending
regime123 5 months ago
(where white delivers a check and picks off black's knight)
regime123 5 months ago
20:42 min , why did he exchange rocks for thhe pawn ?? he could take it with a pawn without loosing his rock :/
Larigiano 6 months ago
great stuff, Kevin
majotnf 6 months ago
I don't really think that the lightsquare bishop is white's best bishop, or the darksquare bishop is black's best bishop, that changes along with the pawn structure
shinyninetales999 6 months ago
Can you guys recommend a good free chess engine.I downloaded Rybka 2.3.2a (Tarrasch interface) to solve checkmate in 2 problems.....but the engine could not come up with the solution. The book is by B.P. Barnes and the moves are really difficult to spot
Quickfireflame 6 months ago
Hey Kevin , what program do you use to free use the board as you want? .. i want something like that to practice myself , thanks a lot.
Snowbatah 6 months ago
Very good video. It's hard to beat something that makes the best move every time
Necropulan 6 months ago
I enjoyed the game.
nikolam66 7 months ago
at 29:01, if he moves king to g6, then why not move pawn to h5 mate?
triplefire0x 7 months ago
@triplefire0x the h pawn already moved. it wouldnt be able to go 2 squares in 1 move to the 5 rank ever anyway
MajaBludd 6 months ago
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McGurfle 7 months ago
can you make videos of you playing against someone
burn419 7 months ago
YAY!!!! I LOVE IT!
samurigeek 7 months ago
23:18 i was like.. WOO FREE PAWN! and then he said only mediocre players would take the pawn -.-
LOL1626 7 months ago
how can you cheat in chess?
berciks 7 months ago
@berciks just dont cheat
nicocola1 7 months ago
@nicocola1 no i ment to sey that you can't ,what you gonna tell opponent to look away for a sec and then you gona move his pieces or what? :D
berciks 7 months ago
@berciks You can obviously use this(or something similar) in low-level chess, but in high level someone would probably notice. Against a computer, you can't cheat :)
magnus3318 7 months ago
This is the most in depth analysis I've seen on this game. Very well done Kevin.
fisher00769 7 months ago
I don't like so much the way that computers play chess. There is something that I can't explain that I don't like it and make it very boring for me, but I enjoyed a lot this video a lot. Even if you don't like how computers play chess, I think we can learn a lot from them.
Kevin, I love the way you explain the little details that really make the difference like the double pawns on this game. I would like you to make it more often.
I hope you'll make thousands more of videos like this!
guitarrad 7 months ago
It was interesting to hear a human's analysis of AI's thinking. Thanks, Keving. Yeah, it looks like a typical chess AI strategy - no crazy attacks, just gaining small increments through the game - a doubled pawn here, passive move there - and after all that adds up in the end of the middle game the AI launches its only and last attack.
paulkiss1981 7 months ago
i just like to mention i enjoyed the video... keep them coming
Haraldtubeyou 7 months ago
WOW . I rarely see this rating without any dislikes .. greet man (:
omer88f 7 months ago
johncliffe this game is over analyzed over the years and showed that our dear commentator is basically right.
so keep your money or buy the ferrari for yourself!
kostasrallis 7 months ago
So I have just rediscovered the wonders of chess. Your commentary is great. The matches you choose are great. You have just gained a subscriber.
r0llingthund 7 months ago
Maybe you shouldn't try to (naively) explain every single move but focus on key moves. This way the video wouldn't last soooooo long.
TheSleepaholic 7 months ago
On minute 27, you think Kasparov could have gotten a tie by exchanging queens? Really? Down a pawn, with a horrible pawn structure, against a rook on the 7th rank and two connected passed pawns? Versus a super computer? If you can tie that position against me, I'll buy you a Ferrari. Kasparov did exactly what you have to do in that kind of situation: keep the game complicated.
TheJohnsutcliffe 7 months ago
Great job! Thank you, Kevin!
ArielRaskin 7 months ago
Excellent! I've been looking for good Deep Blue vs. Kasparov videos, and I'm looking forward to 1997 Game 6 in particular. Thanks Kevin!
fmsamir 7 months ago
27:00 why does black not use his knight, d3 to f4 (pawn can't take it because of the rook) and at the same time attacking the white queen? then knight kan check the king on h3 on the next move....
lunasearevived 7 months ago
18:13 why not black bishop b6xd4??
lunasearevived 7 months ago
At 4:20 you said that the queen cannot be moved at tempo, yet it appears c4 does just that. After c4 white can look forward to Nc3
Oecleus 7 months ago
Great video!
SondreDigital 7 months ago
Fantastic ending!
MrGatherfield 7 months ago
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daemonowner 7 months ago
26:58-why not Kf4?
varmman 7 months ago
@varmman Hes prety threatened by whites queen and the queen can just move to d7 protects h pawn and threatens forced queen trade. he also doesnt want a passed b pawn. there are many many reason not to move the knight
awayfliesthepie4 7 months ago
thx man.
Darxsys 7 months ago
you have to play great, chehess
numbcore 7 months ago
some constructive criticism hopefully. your chess vocabulary, or just vocabulary in general, seems to be...lacking. i guess i'm assuming (based on what? i don't know) you're an above 2000 player but your videos certainly do not reflect that or anything close to it really. i don't like how you analyze games either. doesn't seem to have much breadth or depth. dunno. i much prefer kingscrusher or sean g godley but i appreciate your efforts nonetheless.
GarrBear314 7 months ago
@GarrBear314 It may be pitched at a lower level than you are looking for.
firestartertwistedfi 7 months ago
@GarrBear314 - If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. Great policy.
JohnQuincyAdams1 7 months ago
I enjoyed it, thanks
SmartStr33t 7 months ago
22:08 Ne7 would protect rook and allow queen to protect pawn at same time
beauf2 7 months ago
@beauf2 nvm, couple moves later white would check and be up a knight...
beauf2 7 months ago
Liked it, very informative and it seemed interesting to me to see how a computer plays.
InvaderPOE665 7 months ago
@InvaderPOE665 - Computers play horrible, cold, boring, un-imaginative chess.
JohnQuincyAdams1 7 months ago
enjoyed.. watched the whole thing..!! thanks
brucenunn37 7 months ago
why do you say kasparov resigned...isn't that mate?
bselvite2 7 months ago
@1nf4m0uz undefended? What are you talking about? Even if after Qg4 fork the knight is being protected by the rook at d8.
spinthepen 7 months ago
18:21 Kasparov would've been better of playin Na5 forcing the knight to either capture the bishop or knight or push up his pawn at e6 which gives him the chance to lose the double pawn.
1nf4m0uz 7 months ago
u are gr8
BRECHDURCHFALL12 7 months ago
Great job on your video and commentary is great.
BrainlessZombie 7 months ago
I can't wait for the next video :D
Aelfredus26 7 months ago
you gotta hurry up and post the game where kasparov won. cant wait to see the super computer get its ass handed to it....or whatever computers use as an ass.
Kingomegared 7 months ago
great vid, I can't wait till Kasparov owns deep blue
thisisgame 7 months ago
17:55 Why not Bxd4???
spinthepen 7 months ago
@spinthepen There's only one reason for this. If he goes for Bxd4 then white can play Nxd4 which pretty much makes him lose material.If you are wondering as to why, take note that the knight from c6 cannot capture with Nxd4 since White can just play Qg4 check and also forking the undefended knight.
1nf4m0uz 7 months ago
Thank you for your game analysis :)
I'm pretty much a newbie in chess but I'm learning a lot from your video.
Ovni121 7 months ago
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Ovni121 7 months ago
I look forward to any chess video you put out.
1airplane21 7 months ago
how good would you think deep shredder is in comparison to other chess engines?
Franchan10 7 months ago
The controversy later, as I understood it, was that IBM refused to show the workings of the computer to Kasparow...insinuating that the computer had some human help, as it were. IBM quickly refused to show any of the workings and destroyed the cvomputer after the rematch, adding weight to the suspicion that they were covering up something.
beatroot09 7 months ago
"A3, you might as well turn off the video right now" lol.
LynxCoding 7 months ago
I remember the end from chess dot com's Chess Mentor :)
Carlisle412 7 months ago
@Carlisle412 hahha me to
guitarfella581 7 months ago
nice video man, i look forward for the rest of the serie :D
dakok 7 months ago
Can't wait to see the analysis of game 2 of 1997, and your take on the controversy. Was it a suspect move by a computer than only a person would make? Did Kasparov just panic and love and give this excuse?
SeedsofJoy 7 months ago
<3 Fun Game~
KushSoul 7 months ago
It's Deep blue vs. Kasparov.
Dzhao14 7 months ago
at 16:55 Kasparov wouldn't take with his queen because of Nd7...
bluedasher23 7 months ago
@bluedasher23 woops somebody beat me to this. :)
bluedasher23 7 months ago
Suggesting u change the title and switch the names. Agree?
Ridabu 7 months ago
Your alive!!!
LCNerf 7 months ago
kasparov won on 1996, then won the first game on 1997 in a really easy way. then IBM team made of idiots decided to cheat giving deep blue an human assistance choosing the best move from the candidates that it find out. not so hard to understand.
Riuhkuhku 7 months ago
@Riuhkuhku yeah that's right - the documentary was uploaded by SearchBucket who's had gis channel terminated: pretty conclusive IBM cheated -they refused to release the logs when they had no good reason not to -doing so would've shown decisively whether they were or weren't. Their share price skyrocketed. Deep Blue was a cynical cash cow creation that they immediately retired refusing Gazza a rematch
TheGambler666 7 months ago
I enjoyed this video, so I'm letting you know in the comments! :D
DocSpankenstein 7 months ago
17:22 the other N fork's the Q and R
TheGambler666 7 months ago
28:29 - What about Qxf7? If the queen is captured then Rh1#, so what does white do?
Bulbapuck 7 months ago
@Bulbapuck while Kaparov still would have been losing, you are exactly right, Qxf7 probably would have been a much better move. Qxf7 36. Qd8 Kg7 37. Rxf7 Kxf7 38. Qd5+. Def bad position for black but much better than what was played in the game.
thechesswebsite 7 months ago
@thechesswebsite I think that would have been a bad move by Kasparov simply because Qxf7 36. Qxd4+ giving white the free knight on f2. In my opinion it was well played by Kasparov simply because he's trying to avoid the combinations that white can get checkmate with. Nice video though, I always watch your channel =)
ssxrssdomdom 7 months ago
I was wondering, at 23:35 couldn't knight to a7 have been played? I am just a beginner and I thought this would have worked
talanand 7 months ago
@Bulbapuck If Qxf7, then white plays Qxd4+. Kg8, Rc8+, Re8, Rxe8+, Qxe8, Qxf2 winning the knight back, as well as a pawn on d4 in the process. White is now up 2 pawns (with better pawn structure), and though it is black's turn, the black queen will be on e8 where it can do no good. White is likely to win in this position.
infiniteV115 7 months ago
@infiniteV115 Thanks for the reply :)
Bulbapuck 7 months ago
@infiniteV115 i dont see it that way.. instead of Rc8+Re8, black should just Qf8.. that way its still one more move for black to checkmate
inSiGniaaa 6 months ago
@inSiGniaaa That runs into the same problem though. Qxf7, Qxd4+, Kg8, Rc8+, Qf8, correct? After this, Rxf8+, Kxf8, Qxf2. The mate threat is gone now that the knight is gone. Basically what has happened here is that the knights were traded off, white traded a rook for black's queen and white won the pawn on d4.
Even if black plays Re2 after Qxf2 (best move), white can play Kg1, and after the trade and the following turn, white will have 4 pawns against black's 1 pawn (h7). White will surely win.
infiniteV115 6 months ago
17:48 - I think the problem with Queen f6 ist that the knight on e5 jumps to d7 and then he has a rock and the queen pined down.
ghostking0 7 months ago
i like the way he says "Putting tons n tons of Pressure" and "Fianchetto the bishop",though he didnt say it in dis video...Kevin you rock !!!!
rohit07017169 7 months ago
it was good stuff
PatSan1984 7 months ago
I enjoyed. Good video.
eenayeah 7 months ago
yessssss I didnt want to bug but ive been itchin for a new chess vid... thanks Kev!
musicnhoops818 7 months ago
17:17 - Why not Ne7??
Nikodem0S 7 months ago
@ 17:11 n-d7 fork?
beardedvulcan 7 months ago 2
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beardedvulcan 7 months ago
Chess isn't just about all brainpower. I believe its also about psychology. You can sort of trick your opponents into making blunders when certain pieces are under pressure such as the King and the Queen.
xXGen3sisXx 7 months ago
Wow, nice game review. Hopefully more people can realize that chess can actually be exciting.
TUPAPA1994 7 months ago
first move happens at about 3:00 , in case anyone wants to just skip to that.
dxmakina 7 months ago 14
@dxmakina
Thanks.
Sozialneutralist 7 months ago
@dxmakina - Why skip learning? Life is too short to skip learning.
JohnQuincyAdams1 7 months ago
if he didn't take with the pawn, Blue would've had a fork with Nd7
spli10wiggz1 7 months ago
ahh i gotta turn off the video since i thought Ba3 =(
tuoljg 7 months ago
I think its important to recognize this is Kasparov`s first game against Deep blue, The creators of Deep Blue could analyze every game of Kasparov while Kasparov knew little about the computer, a lot of the prodding moves by Kasparov may have just been to see how the computer reacts and prioritizes things
Kooletz71 7 months ago
Good analysis, thanks for the post ! You always have a good commentary. Definitely good opportunities for discussion in this match, particularly the visible differences in computer/human play that come in later games (and all the controversy that comes with it) ! Cheers
blakerwalk 7 months ago
17:22 Nd7 forks queen and rook. that is why kasparov took with pawn
nerdbane357 7 months ago 12
@nerdbane357 Great addition to the analysis. I have added a note in the video. Thanks for the comment.
thechesswebsite 7 months ago 5
Ne5 is Anand's move in chess grandmaster vs Topalov game #12
mukmin01 7 months ago
Yes great, thanks for this :-)
Satak8 7 months ago
A3, you might as well just turn off the video now
LOLOL
xXLogicalArgumentsXx 7 months ago 40
@xXLogicalArgumentsXx I can stop laughing with that and "again its a super computer its not going to fall for that" XD i like the humor of this guy
shaolinmonk1991 7 months ago
i dont get it... kasparov said that IBM cheated but I've seen that game many times and i dont see how they cheated.... what arguments did kasparov had when he accused them of cheating?
darwincosadr 7 months ago
@darwincosadr I will definitely cover this once we go over the 1997 series. There was no controversy in 1996 when he won.
thechesswebsite 7 months ago
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UncleSam2112 7 months ago
@darwincosadr He thinks that they had another grand master in the room with deep blue to intervene if he saw fit, computers are short term oriented, they try to gain as much material as possible and end up with the most advantageous position, Kasperov attempted to trick the computer into taking an advantageous position which he felt would lead to a worse position later on but instead Deep blue chose to make a move that wasnt as mathematically good but lead to better position later on, very human
Kooletz71 7 months ago
@Kooletz71 Ohhh okay... thanks for pointing that out.... i guess the world will never know...
darwincosadr 7 months ago
@darwincosadr I saw a show about it somewhere (maybe on Youtube). Kasparov was losing, so he played a desperation move: he sacked a pawn, confident DB would take it, since computers play just to gobble material. But DB played a different move. Kasparov immediately knew what had happened.
chessenthusiast 7 months ago
@darwincosadr He claimed IBM had someone relatively skilled in chess who saw the desperate sack for what it was, so when the computer came up with candidate moves, he or she simply deleted the first move, which would have been to take the pawn. Had this person not done so, DB would have taken the pawn and maybe, just maybe Kasparov would have drawn. The controversy came when IBM refused to release the DB's candidate moves from the entire match, which would have proven Kasparov right or wrong.
chessenthusiast 7 months ago
@chessenthusiast Normally in chess programs, candidate moves to consider may vary over time even for the same chess position and are not stored anywhere but in temporary memory, so if this was the case, it would actually be impossible for IBM to comply with his request. Unless of course they had an actual log of all the candidate moves suggested by Deep Blue. They might have had that. But keeping such a log could arguably slow down the program too much, so perhaps not.
NisseHult101 7 months ago
@NisseHult101 I'm not sure about keeping candidate moves anywhere but temporary memory, but I remember there was a log of moves that IBM refused to release, and that was the controversy, because IBM could have laid suspicions to rest but didn't. This, of course, fanned the flames and led to even more accusations. Hopefully Kevin can address that when he makes his video on the 1997 series.
chessenthusiast 7 months ago