The Zero did not have all that powerful an engine, so they made it as lightweight as possible. Meaning no armour, no self-sealing tanks, and wings that couldn't put up with high speed. It had decent speed, good climb and maneuverability and decent armament, but only 60 rnds for its cannon, about 4-5 secs firing time I think. Once those cannon shells were used up it had no more firepower than a WW1 fighter.
This show was made 60+ years after the end of WW II. Very few German or Japanese aces were still living (very few survived the war because of the Axis did not rotate frontline pilots like the Allies did). So you'd have to track down the survivors and convince them to talk to a foreign production crew producing a foreign language program.
Gee I guess the "Brass" really did round file Claire Chennault's report on the Zeros performance nearly 8 months before the discovery of the Aleutian Island Zero.I still remember a photo of a Zero with Chinese markings being guarded by a Chinese soldier sitting next to a P-40C with AVG insignia.Maybe the "old man" actually flew it,with his past history he probably stole it from a Jap air field.When the brass hate you,they hate you even at the cost of lost men and aircraft just to spite Chennault
american, japanese, german, british, doesn't matter what country they were from. all pilots during WWII had a lot of balls and fought well for their country, I have a lot of respect for all of them.
@N01i3s gonna take a wild guess here, you're american right? ok, well everybody had their reasons for fighting the war, America for Pearl Harbor, Germany (hitler) for world dominance, Japan for supplies. I'm American too, but I still have respect for all soldiers of WWII. if you look at it from the soldier's perspective, they're fighting for their country, that makes them brave men. don't blame the ones who take orders, blame the ones who give them.
just wondering, but how are all these recordings confirmed? you have to trust what the pilot tells you? cause it sounds kind of hard for other allied planes to pay attention on you while they have to worry about themselves too
I am a family member of Hamilton McWhorter. His grassroots is Athens, GA. Hamilton did more than dog fights, he did strafing and bomb runs. Japanese deserved what they got for the sucker punch attack on Pearl Harbor. "One Slug McWhorter" was his name because Hamilton shot down two Zeros with one burst of fire.
@YouT00ber or you if you have tv like mine you can record the show then when you want to watch it you skip past commercials, but yes thank you for your effort i would have watched it on my tv but i have siblings who find the show boring and deleted it
ok why would we show any German or Japanese victories... They were our enemies! Hey i got a great idea, lets have a t.v. show that shows japs an nazi's killing us... Yea that sounds good.
Good point there, Floyd. I mean, I would be interested in such a show, but...
Well, what you are getting at, if I'm not wrong, is that there is certainly a fair bit of jingoism, which rears its head in re the History Channel. (God, I find their stream of Defense Department recruiting videos/infomericals tiring as hell, but that is another story.)
wwII ended awhile ago, so why not forget about rivalries and learn the entireity of the story... we can not fully comprihend world war two, or any war, without knowing the whole thing.
@CUong218: this show is on history channel. History is not biased
JM: Historians .....REAL historians say about the History Channel, instead of "Where the Past Comes Alive"....rather it's, "Where the Past Becomes a Lie."
Heres an idea, instead of criticizing what we show on American TV, say "Thank You" to these great men who saved your grandparents asses and are the reason you arent posting in German. Only takes 2 generations to be ungrateful.
You'll be happy to know that within the context of the US television market this show was created for that this distinction in the title is not necessary.
These stories happen to be part of our/US history and no one else is going to tell them for us.
If other countries can't tell their own stories, it's not a US basic cable channel's responsibility to do so for them.
Right, potnude. Damn shame we can't be like the British who make shows showinng...er..hmm...British victories, or Japan which makes shows showing...cough..Japanese victories, or France which makes shows....uh.........hmmm......never mind.
And it happens just like you stated! I'm 30 miles south of Canada which puts me well within range of recieving there television broadcasts and it's comical to listen there "selective memory" of WW11 history. You would think they won all the major battles themselves!
Heres an idea, instead of criticizing what we show on American TV, say "Thank You" to these great men who saved your grandparents asses and are the reason you arent posting in German. Only takes 2 generations to be ungrateful.
Dude its an American Propaganda made in America And aired in America. Thats why they show American Victories, and yes they do show British Victories also. Why would they show german and Japanese victories if they lost the war? No one cares about those.
I'd have to disagree, even if all of the naval pilots were aware of the information gathered on the zero, 3 quarters of them would most likely not even think or use the intelligence gathered in combat. When you're put into a life and death situation, which in air combat can be less then 10 seconds, you can't always think about your enemy in that span of time. Even if we hadn't gathered the information, it wouldn't significantly affect our chances.
@darrenmicallef6 But Claire Chennault had given them all the specs on the Zero,before 7Dec..Even the late Tex Hill saw the report sent to Washington.They hated Chennault so it was probably round filed.To spite him how many pilots and aircraft did we lose? I remember seeing a photo of a zero with Chineses markings sitting next to a P-40C with AVG insignia.I would bet Claire flew it,I also bet he probably stole it off a Jap Air Field.Knowing his early career as "Flying Trapeze" AAF air demo team.
Yep. I guess, being an American show, they figure Americans are more interested in American pilots than pilots from other nations. Makes sense, they want the ratings.
and the 50 cal bullet isn't as wide as a cd. it's as long as one maybe with the caseing still attached. the actual projectile is only about an inch an 1/2 long
Because it's quite effective. He wasn't expecting of sinking that cruiser, but he can silence the majority of the AA fire from the cruiser, since a lot of Japanese AA crews are exposed. That in turn, will make the torpedo or bomb runs of other aircraft much safer.
He could also pepper the bridge, hit the cruiser's optic sights and other FCS.
In ww2 I do believe US AA crews were also quite exposed too. Japanese aircraft had a lethal 23mm cannon mounted on Zeros so I assume this would be effective against any protection offered US gun crews. Maybe he was hoping to get very lucky and strike torpedoes.
His job is to protect the bombers he is escorting...correct? So why is he severely depleting the bullets he may need to take out zeros later and risking being destroyed by AA fire?
American fighter pilots were trained and encouraged to search out any targets of opportunity. And you have to keep in mind that the Japanese during this time, often refuse to send up fighters if they think the odds are against them.
To pilots like McWhorter, why wait for the Japanese to come up and fight, when he could go down the deck and take the fight to the Japanese?
Hellcat pilots also have a dual mission of engaging any military target, be it a fighter, or a heavy cruiser. :)
The hellcat only had about 20sec of fir power in you held down the trigger but it seems like he has lots of ammo but it only akes a half second burst to shoot down a zero
its a .50 cal thats a slug as wide as a typical CD that may not seem big but there moving quit fast and most are inciduary rounds so they do alote of damage to the deck of the ship he wasnt aiming at the side. Sorry for the bad spelling
The .50= 1/2 inch. the bullet is one half inch wide, but the brass is considerably longer than any other rifle round, I'm talking about the .50cal BMG round. Naval guns and land based field artillery could be 3inches and some 5inches on Naval mounts. Japanese battleships Yamato and Musashi had 18.1inch caliber rifles. Biggest rifles to ever set sail. Barrels were 53ft long. Average semi-trailer on US roads is 53ft long. Very large rifles with a very long range. Awesome firepower.
Awesome firepower but a waste of money. 1 Dauntless Dive bomber with 1 bomb could have sank the Yamato. How long did it take to produce a single engine aircraft in 1944? A month? It took years to manufacture the Yamato.
Yes, I think I know the two episodes you´re referring to. :) However, what I meant was that probably not less than the 95% of History Channel chapters on air combats are about allied aces... Not quite a good balance. As for the kamikazes chapter, that´s just about planes charging ships, not dogfights. Besides, the special effects on that chapter disappointed me greatly because it seemed that attacking Vals reached Mach 1 even in levelled flight!! Adrenalin or excitement of the animators?
Yes, I think I know the episode you´re talking about. "Kommando Alba" was it? But though I may be wrong, it seems to me to be the only exception of planes falling down not covered in flames. As for the rest, they´re all the same. Besides, that chapter was not about what I´d call real "dogfight", with fighters manouvring to avoid each others´s shots, but just German aces charging against allied bombers...
el hellcats fue el estudio de un zero encontrado y estudiaron sus virtudes y defectos recuerden que el zero en oriente era considerado el mejor caza del mundo entre 1940 a 1942 tanto en armamento como en manibrabilidad, luego en 1943 aparecio este avion que tenia un margen de 19 zeros derribados por cada hellcats
@Olmecru Exacto. Para mí, el Hellcat fue sin duda mucho más importante que cualquier otra caza americano de la guerra. Gracias a él, America recuperaró definitivamente el control aéreo en el Pacífico (el Corsair sólo contribuyó a "mantenerlo"). Sin embargo, aún al final de la guerra hubo cazas japoneses realmente peligrosos incluso para el Hellcat, como el Ki-84 Hayate, el Ki-100 Goshiki o el N1K2 Shiden; más aún si a sus mandos estaban los pocos ases japoneses que sobrevivían.
early A6M2, A6M3 zero's were factory painted in japanese navy grey. after 1943 A6M5a,b&c type 52 zero's had their upper surfaces painted dark green with orange/yellow identifaction bands on the leading edges of the wings. rabaul based zeros often had a mottled paint scheme and as the quality of field applied paint was poor, it was not uncommon for the paint to peel and chip.
You are completely pathetic. In first place, nuclear weapons are nothing to do with fighters' aerial battles like that. During WW2, a lot of ace pilots appeared in US or Japan or Germany or UK. They are, as it were, knights and Samurai of sky. Anyway, don't leave such an insane comment any more.
Are you a Chinese who have been brainwashed by Chinese Communist Party? Needless to say, aces are honorable. You had better search google by using the key words "japanese aces of ww2".
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Wow, the Japanese had families too! Its like "OMG he killed 2 ppl in 45 secs!" And they dont care that he ended human lives? But if HE was killed, everyone would hate the Japs!
I met Hamilton, he was very humble, and seemed unimpresed by his amazing achievements. He was know for his accurracy with the guns. His Squadron called him "one shot Mcwhorter" He passed away recently.
Your argument below my comment is stupid. YOUR BOTH MARYS! And, one engine hit with a 20mm shell would send the hellcat, or any other plane for that matter, barreling towards earth!
no,not true. you should look at info from Japanese ace Saburo Sakai, he talks about how he dumped ammo into a hellcat an it just wouldn't go down. hell even Pappy Boyington had pics of 20mm shells in his engine an around his plane.
Zeros also have MG's, so he could have been shooting those at closer range. One 20mm shell at a wing puts a big hole there, if it hits, lets say, the prop, then you ARE FUCKED!!!
The zeros didnt have a chance when the hellcat was put into the skys.The zero was a good plane but its lack of armor made it easy to kill if it was flying in a strate line.(im only 12)
It has to do with which direction the prop turns- It can either help or hinder you. In one of these dogfights, a P51 actually used the rotation of the prop to make an insane reversal.
I had the unique pleasure of going to Rabaul to see the area where this video is based. The volcano is still active and was erupting continually whilst there. My father who came with me serviced B-25 Mitchells during ww2. General MacArthur was very wise not to attack the 112,000 front line staff at this base. We stayed at the Rapapo Airstrip which is now a Coconut Plantation and Tourist Dive Centre. Lots of things to see in this area.
lemonite, the Hellcat was a better aircraft than the Zero, there were reports where a Hellcat was hit over 200 times by a Zero shot then shot down the Zero and returned home. I could explain further and oh, dont even get me started on Zero vs. F4U Corsair or P38 Lightning, or even the P51 Mustang. American(F6F, F4U, P38, P51)/German(Bf109, Fw190) and even British(Spitfire) planes were superior to Japans(Oscar, Zero).
I wouldnt say severly, but I never said the F4F Wildcat was better than the Zero. I never even mentioned te Wildcat. But, the Zero only had an advantage over American aircraft for 1 year, because of the F6F Hellcat being deployed in 1942.
The Zero was faster, had a better thrust-to-weight ratio, which made it better in a climb, and was more agile. Basically the only way Wildcats would win was by doing a rolling scissors.
But the Wildcat wasnt as outmatched as it seems, the Wildcat had better protection, much more armor, self-sealing fuel-tanks, and was faster in a dive due to it being heavier. If the pilot knew how to use the Wildcats advantages and didnt fight the Zero's fight, the Wildcat could and did win many of times, though the Zero won more often. And like I said, this advantage the IJN had over the USN was only for around a year.
I agree with you on one thing- the Japs only had the advantage for a short time. But you would often find that if the Wildcat pilot was not a much better pilot than a jap in a zero, they were screwed.
But thats just it, I said if the Wildcat pilot knew what his key advantages were, he could win. They have a few dogfights episodes showing how Wildcat pilots beat Zero's. One of them was Guadalcanal.
There were some instances the Wildcat could win- but the pilot would have to pay VERY close attention to what he was doing, and react to everything perfectly.
And the Wildcat's advantages were few- just tougher and more heavily armed... If I am not mistaken, one tactic used was just to run straight into the jaws of an oncoming zero, guns ratting.
Exactly, that's would it would take, if a Wildcat pilot knew what he was doing and was very aware he could beat a Zero. Tougher and more heavily armed sound like two good advantages to utilize to me. Don't get into a turning fight, and you'll be fine. And yes, the above tactic you mentioned was used and was very effective given the two mentioned advantages.
@aow4321 Yes, but still at the end of the war there were formidable Japanese fighters such as the Ki-84 Hayate, the Ki-100 Goshiki and the N1K2 Shiden which were really dangerous even for the Hellcat; even more if they belonged to an ellite squadron including some of the very few surviving Japanese aces. There was once a combat between Hellcats and N1K2s with the result (it seems) of 20 Hellcats lost for just 9 N1K2s shot down... One of the few exceptions to the rule, though.
Good IJN pilots also believed that the A6M actually had an ADVANTAGE over the F6F and other US planes in a dive! Sounds ludicrous?
1.Most US pilots did not have the ability to fire in a dive(very difficult).2.Zero with good pilot, can outmaneuver and force enemy to overshoot. 3.Heavy US planes were heavy and difficult to pull out. 4.Zero, being light,had climb and acceleration advantage, forcing looping maneuver.Iwamoto,Kakimoto,etal used loop againse F6F.
their leaders and fight an undisciplined battle. true, the F6F had the Zero owned in Turkey Shoot, Solomons, G-Canal, but there was'nt enough Zeros around for USN kill claims to be true, even by their own ratios and numbers.
i dont get all the numbers and ratios of F6F to Zero kills. i read in several books that contradict these kill ratios. the Zero, even by American claims, killed more F6F than one, or many might think. also, there really were'nt that many A6m2-5 made. and by the time that the F6F came, they have already decreased production of the Zero. experienced IJN pilots were never scared of either the F6F or its pilots, they were scared of their numbers. Sakai said that F6F pilots would normally break from
"wrote And over time the Luftwaffe "experte" were either dead or injured from engaging RAF & USSAF who became experts" same thing with the japs lack of rotating pilots back to train was the end of both axis forces. thus Allies pilots got better an better.
A top pilot should never need to dogfight...it is only an action used when something goes wrong. Erich hartmann said 'dogfighting is a waste of time'. The top german pilots used ambush tactics...and only engaged when risk was minimal. All the bravado on these programs is indeed entertaining...and amazing...but eventually a pilot's luck would run out when dogfighting.
Well mudchair if you paid some attention to the program this is about WWII, where of dogfights was how air combat was carried out... its not like they had super advanced homing missiles and stuff like they have today
mudchair, I have to agree with you. Hartmann had 352 kills and died an old man in 1993. a lot of 'dogfighters' went down in flames very young. The german aces stalked their pray like von richthofen in WWI. They hunted, they didn't go and look for fights. Dont get me wrong, I think dogfights are the most exciting thing ever, but not the smartest. Those who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.
You are right. Especially when considering Hartmann. Dogfighting proved to be tiresome and exhausting. Nevertheless dogfighting is more entertaining for the young top guns... than it is for the old guys... :-)
I'm afraid the good old days of dogfighting have passed. Close in, with guns. Thats the only pure dogfight. I have an idea thats been swimming around in my head for a while. Like the "Red bull air races",but instead of racing, pilots should dogfight. Planes should be fitted with cencors,smoke pods,cameras ect. If your 'hit',the smoke starts to pump. It could be a great show and it would keep dogfighting alive.
That would be really great. There are programs where you can dogfight for like $1200 w/ other wannabe dogfighters. fightercombat(.)com is one such site which popped up on google.
I know about these programs, but people only do it once for the experience. I wanna see world class pilots take each other on. Ex-military pilots, aerobatics pilots, race pilots. Guys that push the limits. And I would like to see it every week. And I wanna see them do it in mean machines. It would become a popular sport and I'd like to be a part of it. Great video, by the way!
These anti American brit cunts want to see us die, but they are so irrational incompetent they want us to make it.
menacingshadows 7 months ago
The Zero did not have all that powerful an engine, so they made it as lightweight as possible. Meaning no armour, no self-sealing tanks, and wings that couldn't put up with high speed. It had decent speed, good climb and maneuverability and decent armament, but only 60 rnds for its cannon, about 4-5 secs firing time I think. Once those cannon shells were used up it had no more firepower than a WW1 fighter.
althesmith 7 months ago
how come that japs or german alway get bad luck.
talkingmonkey1000 9 months ago
This show was made 60+ years after the end of WW II. Very few German or Japanese aces were still living (very few survived the war because of the Axis did not rotate frontline pilots like the Allies did). So you'd have to track down the survivors and convince them to talk to a foreign production crew producing a foreign language program.
marauder247 9 months ago
19 to 1 is a hell of an air to air kill ratio!! Even for today it is unsurpassed!!!
Good ole Grumman Iron Works!!! F6F The Hammer Hellcat!!!
886lulubelle 11 months ago
Gee I guess the "Brass" really did round file Claire Chennault's report on the Zeros performance nearly 8 months before the discovery of the Aleutian Island Zero.I still remember a photo of a Zero with Chinese markings being guarded by a Chinese soldier sitting next to a P-40C with AVG insignia.Maybe the "old man" actually flew it,with his past history he probably stole it from a Jap air field.When the brass hate you,they hate you even at the cost of lost men and aircraft just to spite Chennault
gbuscg 11 months ago
That was pretty cool, only experience I've had with fighting is Crimson Skies lmao (video game). Pretty cool to watch this.
Has1b 1 year ago
@North7700 especially when its so unjustified.
AlexxxxxSaysHi 1 year ago
It's sad how people take pride on killing other people .
North7700 1 year ago
american, japanese, german, british, doesn't matter what country they were from. all pilots during WWII had a lot of balls and fought well for their country, I have a lot of respect for all of them.
jamiekenta 1 year ago
@jamiekenta wrong they were nuts that wanted it all. japs and germs wanted 2 take over the world so screw them or just the way they used 2 be
N01i3s 1 year ago
@N01i3s gonna take a wild guess here, you're american right? ok, well everybody had their reasons for fighting the war, America for Pearl Harbor, Germany (hitler) for world dominance, Japan for supplies. I'm American too, but I still have respect for all soldiers of WWII. if you look at it from the soldier's perspective, they're fighting for their country, that makes them brave men. don't blame the ones who take orders, blame the ones who give them.
jamiekenta 1 year ago
@jamiekenta well said
eaglemike1515 1 year ago
Those guys had steel balls. I am in awe everytime they talk about it. Thanks YouT00ber - can't watch it enough.
sirdanable 1 year ago
just wondering, but how are all these recordings confirmed? you have to trust what the pilot tells you? cause it sounds kind of hard for other allied planes to pay attention on you while they have to worry about themselves too
I'm not saying they are lying btw
Lightblinder 1 year ago
the nakajima ki-84 hayate could match against all american planes...just saying
1bol1 1 year ago
I truly enjoyed these videos. Thanks
Wally2U 1 year ago
no armour plating n no parachute.
hlimkb 1 year ago
so intense!! True American hero. What a badass old man.
Bhousm76 1 year ago
the f4u-4 corsair was the best.....v18 46 liter engine....6 50 cals....known as whistling death to the japs
MegaHungrybear 1 year ago
I am a family member of Hamilton McWhorter. His grassroots is Athens, GA. Hamilton did more than dog fights, he did strafing and bomb runs. Japanese deserved what they got for the sucker punch attack on Pearl Harbor. "One Slug McWhorter" was his name because Hamilton shot down two Zeros with one burst of fire.
Recon82ABN 2 years ago
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wow u copied a t.v. show thats new
fadugleman 2 years ago
@fadugleman but i took out the commercials. see? huge effort!
YouT00ber 2 years ago 25
@YouT00ber or you if you have tv like mine you can record the show then when you want to watch it you skip past commercials, but yes thank you for your effort i would have watched it on my tv but i have siblings who find the show boring and deleted it
xxxShadowKnightxxxx 1 year ago
@YouT00ber nice one
hoplite46 1 year ago
@fadugleman if ppl didnt copy tv shows then many episodes would be hard to watch.
MegaHungrybear 1 year ago
ok why would we show any German or Japanese victories... They were our enemies! Hey i got a great idea, lets have a t.v. show that shows japs an nazi's killing us... Yea that sounds good.
FloyedRose335 2 years ago 21
lol!
YouT00ber 2 years ago
@FloyedRose335
I'd love to watch that show. Killing is killing. That's what you want to see isn't it? Blood? pfft.
WunderDoob 2 years ago
Good point there, Floyd. I mean, I would be interested in such a show, but...
Well, what you are getting at, if I'm not wrong, is that there is certainly a fair bit of jingoism, which rears its head in re the History Channel. (God, I find their stream of Defense Department recruiting videos/infomericals tiring as hell, but that is another story.)
Cheers,
Robert
RobertMurph 2 years ago
@FloyedRose335
wwII ended awhile ago, so why not forget about rivalries and learn the entireity of the story... we can not fully comprihend world war two, or any war, without knowing the whole thing.
Rammstein4ever 2 years ago
@FloyedRose335 The Germans where just as brave as us you know
1easterling3 1 year ago
@1easterling3 and dumber....... :) thinken they would beat Americans, that didnt need us French
N01i3s 1 year ago
@FloyedRose335 this aint about who dies its about History u have ppl on this show whit maby 6 kills? while germans whit 300+ aint Mentioned
Mattebubben 1 year ago
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@FloyedRose335 dont be a pussy at least we kicked their ass's
N01i3s 1 year ago
@FloyedRose335 this show is on history channel. History is not biased; neither is this show.
CUong218 10 months ago
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@CUong218: this show is on history channel. History is not biased
JM: Historians .....REAL historians say about the History Channel, instead of "Where the Past Comes Alive"....rather it's, "Where the Past Becomes a Lie."
JetMechMA 6 months ago
@FloyedRose335 i saw a vietnam movie that show than how they won war.dud in english.
jonbklyn380 5 months ago
@FloyedRose335 yup it does, what you typed jus shows how brain washed you are lol
FabiogtwZZ 3 months ago
Thank you to these great men who saved my grandparents asses and are the reason I arent posting in german.
Im so Greateful -.-"
potnude 2 years ago 3
Heres an idea, instead of criticizing what we show on American TV, say "Thank You" to these great men who saved your grandparents asses and are the reason you arent posting in German. Only takes 2 generations to be ungrateful.
jcy2766 2 years ago 3
Right then.
potnude 2 years ago
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This Program should be called "American Dogfight Victories" Because they dont show any
other dogfights apart from dogfights that are won by american pilots.
tthey dont show dogfights from japanese, british german etc...
potnude 2 years ago 6
You'll be happy to know that within the context of the US television market this show was created for that this distinction in the title is not necessary.
These stories happen to be part of our/US history and no one else is going to tell them for us.
If other countries can't tell their own stories, it's not a US basic cable channel's responsibility to do so for them.
YouT00ber 2 years ago 10
@YouT00ber Nicely said!!
Bobbyo60 1 year ago
Right, potnude. Damn shame we can't be like the British who make shows showinng...er..hmm...British victories, or Japan which makes shows showing...cough..Japanese victories, or France which makes shows....uh.........hmmm......never mind.
Rikki0 2 years ago 2
And it happens just like you stated! I'm 30 miles south of Canada which puts me well within range of recieving there television broadcasts and it's comical to listen there "selective memory" of WW11 history. You would think they won all the major battles themselves!
lander4545 2 years ago 2
In the series so far I've see German, Canadian and Isreali pilots
MrMayhemskyline 2 years ago
true
0xXpraetorXx0 2 years ago
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Heres an idea, instead of criticizing what we show on American TV, say "Thank You" to these great men who saved your grandparents asses and are the reason you arent posting in German. Only takes 2 generations to be ungrateful.
jcy2766 2 years ago
Dude its an American Propaganda made in America And aired in America. Thats why they show American Victories, and yes they do show British Victories also. Why would they show german and Japanese victories if they lost the war? No one cares about those.
pharoah246 2 years ago
@pharoah246 Thats what happens..Winer gets Braging right rights basicaly.
icanmyshoetie 2 years ago 3
@pharoah246: Who's "they"? I would be interested in watching documentaries of zeros and Me109s winning battles too. Someone upload something.
GomerfromIsaan 2 years ago
@pharoah246 wrong
Rammstein4ever 2 years ago
@potnude
There are episodes dedicated to the UK and Israeli air force.
So, you know, go suck a dick.
revolrz22 1 year ago
Is Hamilton McWhorter still alive?
Del1720 2 years ago
No he passed away last year.
bobtonja 2 years ago
The americans had to explore the zero that had crashed if not they couldnt beat the ZERO!!!!!
darrenmicallef6 2 years ago
I'd have to disagree, even if all of the naval pilots were aware of the information gathered on the zero, 3 quarters of them would most likely not even think or use the intelligence gathered in combat. When you're put into a life and death situation, which in air combat can be less then 10 seconds, you can't always think about your enemy in that span of time. Even if we hadn't gathered the information, it wouldn't significantly affect our chances.
Del1720 2 years ago
@darrenmicallef6 But Claire Chennault had given them all the specs on the Zero,before 7Dec..Even the late Tex Hill saw the report sent to Washington.They hated Chennault so it was probably round filed.To spite him how many pilots and aircraft did we lose? I remember seeing a photo of a zero with Chineses markings sitting next to a P-40C with AVG insignia.I would bet Claire flew it,I also bet he probably stole it off a Jap Air Field.Knowing his early career as "Flying Trapeze" AAF air demo team.
gbuscg 11 months ago
Is there a battle of britain dogfights episode?
Icarusdecending82 2 years ago
Don't be daft, it's an american show. They barely acknowledge WW2 before December 1941.
commanderstack 2 years ago
Yep. I guess, being an American show, they figure Americans are more interested in American pilots than pilots from other nations. Makes sense, they want the ratings.
Icarusdecending82 2 years ago 4
That's why he is my cousin, and I am proud of it!
jmac0414 2 years ago 2
4:44
fried Japanese
hereandthere42 2 years ago
and the 50 cal bullet isn't as wide as a cd. it's as long as one maybe with the caseing still attached. the actual projectile is only about an inch an 1/2 long
foxboy64 2 years ago
why the hell is he wasting all of his ammo strafing an armored cruiser?
HarbingerRomanus 2 years ago 2
Because it's quite effective. He wasn't expecting of sinking that cruiser, but he can silence the majority of the AA fire from the cruiser, since a lot of Japanese AA crews are exposed. That in turn, will make the torpedo or bomb runs of other aircraft much safer.
He could also pepper the bridge, hit the cruiser's optic sights and other FCS.
obitsu1 2 years ago 6
In ww2 I do believe US AA crews were also quite exposed too. Japanese aircraft had a lethal 23mm cannon mounted on Zeros so I assume this would be effective against any protection offered US gun crews. Maybe he was hoping to get very lucky and strike torpedoes.
1971Copperhead1968 2 years ago
His job is to protect the bombers he is escorting...correct? So why is he severely depleting the bullets he may need to take out zeros later and risking being destroyed by AA fire?
HarbingerRomanus 2 years ago
American fighter pilots were trained and encouraged to search out any targets of opportunity. And you have to keep in mind that the Japanese during this time, often refuse to send up fighters if they think the odds are against them.
To pilots like McWhorter, why wait for the Japanese to come up and fight, when he could go down the deck and take the fight to the Japanese?
Hellcat pilots also have a dual mission of engaging any military target, be it a fighter, or a heavy cruiser. :)
obitsu1 2 years ago 2
The top portions of the cruiser (the bridge, AA mounts, etc.) were thinly or unarmored. 50 cal can do enormous damage to lightly armored anything.
aaronjg682 2 years ago
What a badass. My hat is off....
catfish4975 2 years ago
my last name is mcwhorter
howtobe300 2 years ago
no alanmartin the name is the ''SONDERKOMMANDO ELBE''
TOPACE352 2 years ago
The Hellcat must have a lot of ammo
11month11day11our 3 years ago
The hellcat only had about 20sec of fir power in you held down the trigger but it seems like he has lots of ammo but it only akes a half second burst to shoot down a zero
spitfireMK22 2 years ago
wut abt mm alam 5 kills in 1 min!!
zagahaga 3 years ago
i don't think his machine gun bullet can do any damage on the cruiser.
loveryoda 3 years ago
Of cousre not uless he hit fuel line no it was jux to single out there navymen
shouavaj12 2 years ago
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loveryoda 2 years ago
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after i watch this video for 2 time, i realize what he did is creating a diversion for those topedo bombers. i am sorry for my previous statement.
loveryoda 2 years ago
Ha no prob.
shouavaj12 2 years ago
its a .50 cal thats a slug as wide as a typical CD that may not seem big but there moving quit fast and most are inciduary rounds so they do alote of damage to the deck of the ship he wasnt aiming at the side. Sorry for the bad spelling
spitfireMK22 2 years ago
sorry for the correction but only 1/5 of his ammunition was incendiary.
foxboy64 2 years ago
The .50= 1/2 inch. the bullet is one half inch wide, but the brass is considerably longer than any other rifle round, I'm talking about the .50cal BMG round. Naval guns and land based field artillery could be 3inches and some 5inches on Naval mounts. Japanese battleships Yamato and Musashi had 18.1inch caliber rifles. Biggest rifles to ever set sail. Barrels were 53ft long. Average semi-trailer on US roads is 53ft long. Very large rifles with a very long range. Awesome firepower.
1971Copperhead1968 2 years ago
Awesome firepower but a waste of money. 1 Dauntless Dive bomber with 1 bomb could have sank the Yamato. How long did it take to produce a single engine aircraft in 1944? A month? It took years to manufacture the Yamato.
Icarusdecending82 2 years ago
History Channel plays interesting chapters on air combats, but they´re ruined by many details I don´t like:
1- That tiring custom of making planes pass so close to the camera that they make it tremble. How many times has it happened here? I´ve lost count.
2- Almost every time a plane is shot down, it´s covered in flames, as in videogames...
3- Practically all shot-down planes are non-American, or non-Allies in general. Why not a chapter on Japanese aces like Saburo Sakai?
AlanMartinNala 3 years ago 5
they've done some on the germans and some about the kamikazes.. pretty sure theres a few others
Jokerr6900 3 years ago 2
Yes, I think I know the two episodes you´re referring to. :) However, what I meant was that probably not less than the 95% of History Channel chapters on air combats are about allied aces... Not quite a good balance. As for the kamikazes chapter, that´s just about planes charging ships, not dogfights. Besides, the special effects on that chapter disappointed me greatly because it seemed that attacking Vals reached Mach 1 even in levelled flight!! Adrenalin or excitement of the animators?
AlanMartinNala 3 years ago
response to 3- not all downed planeseare american.one episode shows allied bombers rammed apart by 109s
respone to 2- there were times when planese did not go down in flames like in luftwaffes deadliest mission
RenerDeCastro 3 years ago
Yes, I think I know the episode you´re talking about. "Kommando Alba" was it? But though I may be wrong, it seems to me to be the only exception of planes falling down not covered in flames. As for the rest, they´re all the same. Besides, that chapter was not about what I´d call real "dogfight", with fighters manouvring to avoid each others´s shots, but just German aces charging against allied bombers...
AlanMartinNala 3 years ago
i thnk tz bcz history chnnl is american..hehehe..isnt t t obvious?hahaha
ruwan591 3 years ago 2
el hellcats fue el estudio de un zero encontrado y estudiaron sus virtudes y defectos recuerden que el zero en oriente era considerado el mejor caza del mundo entre 1940 a 1942 tanto en armamento como en manibrabilidad, luego en 1943 aparecio este avion que tenia un margen de 19 zeros derribados por cada hellcats
Olmecru 3 years ago
@Olmecru Exacto. Para mí, el Hellcat fue sin duda mucho más importante que cualquier otra caza americano de la guerra. Gracias a él, America recuperaró definitivamente el control aéreo en el Pacífico (el Corsair sólo contribuyó a "mantenerlo"). Sin embargo, aún al final de la guerra hubo cazas japoneses realmente peligrosos incluso para el Hellcat, como el Ki-84 Hayate, el Ki-100 Goshiki o el N1K2 Shiden; más aún si a sus mandos estaban los pocos ases japoneses que sobrevivían.
AlanMartinNala 1 year ago
hoi iik haat spanjaarden!
Kalenichtenneuker 3 years ago
zeroes suppose to be painted white
Aguascalientes805 3 years ago
early A6M2, A6M3 zero's were factory painted in japanese navy grey. after 1943 A6M5a,b&c type 52 zero's had their upper surfaces painted dark green with orange/yellow identifaction bands on the leading edges of the wings. rabaul based zeros often had a mottled paint scheme and as the quality of field applied paint was poor, it was not uncommon for the paint to peel and chip.
hwildy 3 years ago
also during the guadalcanal campaign carrier based zeroes were painted light green
RenerDeCastro 3 years ago
can somebody upload this entire episode?
EmperorTiger 3 years ago
what would you say if your family was nuked?
Nac56 3 years ago
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what would YOU say if your family DESERVED to be nuked?
jackassextreme 3 years ago
what made THEIR families deserved to be nuked?so you are saying Women and Children needed to be nuked??????
Nac56 3 years ago 2
have you heard of a little thing called the 'rape of nanjing'? look it up=).
jackassextreme 3 years ago
have you ever heard of justice? The men raped not their wives and children, thats like executing a whole family for one guy raping.
Nac56 3 years ago
look up "the truth about nanking". look beyond the chinese propaganda.
hwildy 3 years ago
yes, they needed it, bad
speedyneely 3 years ago
You are completely pathetic. In first place, nuclear weapons are nothing to do with fighters' aerial battles like that. During WW2, a lot of ace pilots appeared in US or Japan or Germany or UK. They are, as it were, knights and Samurai of sky. Anyway, don't leave such an insane comment any more.
mitsubishi777 3 years ago 4
japan had no honor during ww2 so they were never samurai
Nac56 3 years ago
Are you a Chinese who have been brainwashed by Chinese Communist Party? Needless to say, aces are honorable. You had better search google by using the key words "japanese aces of ww2".
mitsubishi777 3 years ago
Chinese? Ahahahaha last time I checked I was American White. Jap. And not all aces are honorable
Nac56 3 years ago
Ok. Suit yourself.
mitsubishi777 3 years ago
I have more respect for the pilots of IJAAF than i have of you.
lemonite1 3 years ago
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Wow, the Japanese had families too! Its like "OMG he killed 2 ppl in 45 secs!" And they dont care that he ended human lives? But if HE was killed, everyone would hate the Japs!
Uchiha507 3 years ago
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Screw the japs. They started the war. I'm glad we nuked two of their cities full of civilians.
fastguy45 3 years ago
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lol thats true... Nukes r fun... =D
Uchiha507 3 years ago
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hahah so true man ,god damn fanatics ,they deserved the nukes
lovre666 3 years ago
thats good gramps salute on u!!!! ur a good pilot!
loveuyvonne 3 years ago
If anyone has the rest of the episode could you please post it.
privatesteverogers 3 years ago
I met Hamilton, he was very humble, and seemed unimpresed by his amazing achievements. He was know for his accurracy with the guns. His Squadron called him "one shot Mcwhorter" He passed away recently.
MYQ144 3 years ago 9
Dear MYQ144
Sorry to here that Hamilton Mcwhorter passed away.Last year Robin Olds passed away do you know who he was?
I was wondering if you had the rest of the episode from Dogfights:The Zero Kiler to post on youtube.
Yours,
Privatesteverogers
privatesteverogers 3 years ago
The Wildcat has a Advanatage Of Strength and defence But the Zero's Advantage in Agility.
Kingraptor31 3 years ago
This isn't showing the Wildcat. This is a battle between Zeroes and Hellcats, the Wildcat's successor and an absolute nightmare for a Zero to fight.
darkdill 3 years ago
i wonder what happened to the zero at 4:30 sec.
driftkingz109 3 years ago
One question-IS the wildcat and hellcat's services is only to Stop Zero If it were to Fight The Me 109,well i don't who could win
Kingraptor31 3 years ago
Your argument below my comment is stupid. YOUR BOTH MARYS! And, one engine hit with a 20mm shell would send the hellcat, or any other plane for that matter, barreling towards earth!
nairb2693 3 years ago
no,not true. you should look at info from Japanese ace Saburo Sakai, he talks about how he dumped ammo into a hellcat an it just wouldn't go down. hell even Pappy Boyington had pics of 20mm shells in his engine an around his plane.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
Zeros also have MG's, so he could have been shooting those at closer range. One 20mm shell at a wing puts a big hole there, if it hits, lets say, the prop, then you ARE FUCKED!!!
nairb2693 3 years ago
Hamilton McWhorter what a hero. Amazing story of courage. An unforgettable era in history.
treos85 3 years ago
The zeros didnt have a chance when the hellcat was put into the skys.The zero was a good plane but its lack of armor made it easy to kill if it was flying in a strate line.(im only 12)
xlrious 3 years ago
"Especially to the right"???
Why the right more then the left???
Rickko8 3 years ago
who knows, i have a feeling it's probably internal mechanics, maybe its easier to get out of the dive to the left than to the right...
spanked84 3 years ago
It has to do with which direction the prop turns- It can either help or hinder you. In one of these dogfights, a P51 actually used the rotation of the prop to make an insane reversal.
markbart7 3 years ago
i wonder what happened to the pilot at 4:26
driftkingz109 3 years ago
F6F Hellcat truly was a Zero killer! And 19:1 kill ratio! Wow!
XaRiZi 3 years ago
I had the unique pleasure of going to Rabaul to see the area where this video is based. The volcano is still active and was erupting continually whilst there. My father who came with me serviced B-25 Mitchells during ww2. General MacArthur was very wise not to attack the 112,000 front line staff at this base. We stayed at the Rapapo Airstrip which is now a Coconut Plantation and Tourist Dive Centre. Lots of things to see in this area.
blueknight2004 3 years ago
sounds like a great trip!
YouT00ber 3 years ago
lemonite, the Hellcat was a better aircraft than the Zero, there were reports where a Hellcat was hit over 200 times by a Zero shot then shot down the Zero and returned home. I could explain further and oh, dont even get me started on Zero vs. F4U Corsair or P38 Lightning, or even the P51 Mustang. American(F6F, F4U, P38, P51)/German(Bf109, Fw190) and even British(Spitfire) planes were superior to Japans(Oscar, Zero).
aow4321 3 years ago
At the beginning of the war, Zeros severely outmatched the F4F wildcat...
markbart7 3 years ago
I wouldnt say severly, but I never said the F4F Wildcat was better than the Zero. I never even mentioned te Wildcat. But, the Zero only had an advantage over American aircraft for 1 year, because of the F6F Hellcat being deployed in 1942.
aow4321 3 years ago
The Zero was faster, had a better thrust-to-weight ratio, which made it better in a climb, and was more agile. Basically the only way Wildcats would win was by doing a rolling scissors.
But yes, the F6F did give us the advantage.
markbart7 3 years ago
But the Wildcat wasnt as outmatched as it seems, the Wildcat had better protection, much more armor, self-sealing fuel-tanks, and was faster in a dive due to it being heavier. If the pilot knew how to use the Wildcats advantages and didnt fight the Zero's fight, the Wildcat could and did win many of times, though the Zero won more often. And like I said, this advantage the IJN had over the USN was only for around a year.
aow4321 3 years ago
I agree with you on one thing- the Japs only had the advantage for a short time. But you would often find that if the Wildcat pilot was not a much better pilot than a jap in a zero, they were screwed.
markbart7 3 years ago
But thats just it, I said if the Wildcat pilot knew what his key advantages were, he could win. They have a few dogfights episodes showing how Wildcat pilots beat Zero's. One of them was Guadalcanal.
aow4321 3 years ago
There were some instances the Wildcat could win- but the pilot would have to pay VERY close attention to what he was doing, and react to everything perfectly.
And the Wildcat's advantages were few- just tougher and more heavily armed... If I am not mistaken, one tactic used was just to run straight into the jaws of an oncoming zero, guns ratting.
markbart7 3 years ago
Exactly, that's would it would take, if a Wildcat pilot knew what he was doing and was very aware he could beat a Zero. Tougher and more heavily armed sound like two good advantages to utilize to me. Don't get into a turning fight, and you'll be fine. And yes, the above tactic you mentioned was used and was very effective given the two mentioned advantages.
aow4321 3 years ago
Yeah, but the Zero pilot would have to be a rookie to lose to a wildcat...
markbart7 3 years ago
Not all the time, a good amount of Zero aces were shot down by green wildcat pilots. It all depended on flying skills.
aow4321 3 years ago
very rare- The wildcat pilot qouls have to be REALLY lucky.
markbart7 3 years ago
agreed, but it was possible =)
aow4321 3 years ago
@aow4321 Yes, but still at the end of the war there were formidable Japanese fighters such as the Ki-84 Hayate, the Ki-100 Goshiki and the N1K2 Shiden which were really dangerous even for the Hellcat; even more if they belonged to an ellite squadron including some of the very few surviving Japanese aces. There was once a combat between Hellcats and N1K2s with the result (it seems) of 20 Hellcats lost for just 9 N1K2s shot down... One of the few exceptions to the rule, though.
AlanMartinNala 1 year ago
Good IJN pilots also believed that the A6M actually had an ADVANTAGE over the F6F and other US planes in a dive! Sounds ludicrous?
1.Most US pilots did not have the ability to fire in a dive(very difficult).2.Zero with good pilot, can outmaneuver and force enemy to overshoot. 3.Heavy US planes were heavy and difficult to pull out. 4.Zero, being light,had climb and acceleration advantage, forcing looping maneuver.Iwamoto,Kakimoto,etal used loop againse F6F.
lemonite1 3 years ago
their leaders and fight an undisciplined battle. true, the F6F had the Zero owned in Turkey Shoot, Solomons, G-Canal, but there was'nt enough Zeros around for USN kill claims to be true, even by their own ratios and numbers.
lemonite1 3 years ago
i dont get all the numbers and ratios of F6F to Zero kills. i read in several books that contradict these kill ratios. the Zero, even by American claims, killed more F6F than one, or many might think. also, there really were'nt that many A6m2-5 made. and by the time that the F6F came, they have already decreased production of the Zero. experienced IJN pilots were never scared of either the F6F or its pilots, they were scared of their numbers. Sakai said that F6F pilots would normally break from
lemonite1 3 years ago
we should pay respect to the pacific war aces but keep in mind that the level of training of japanese pilots fell dramatically after 1942..
At the same time,the Luftwaffe "experte" gave RAF and USAAF pilots sth to be scared about when engaging german fighters
michalakis19 3 years ago
And over time the Luftwaffe "experte" were either dead or injured from engaging RAF & USSAF who became experts.
kbroma01 3 years ago
as Kbroma01,
"wrote And over time the Luftwaffe "experte" were either dead or injured from engaging RAF & USSAF who became experts" same thing with the japs lack of rotating pilots back to train was the end of both axis forces. thus Allies pilots got better an better.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
Great American Pirot ZERO killer Hamilton Nice Tactical
crazysexybill 3 years ago
ONLY VALIANTS DO THAT
marcelo1887 3 years ago
A top pilot should never need to dogfight...it is only an action used when something goes wrong. Erich hartmann said 'dogfighting is a waste of time'. The top german pilots used ambush tactics...and only engaged when risk was minimal. All the bravado on these programs is indeed entertaining...and amazing...but eventually a pilot's luck would run out when dogfighting.
mudchair16 4 years ago 7
respect this program guy .these people did do this the germans lost.
transampete 4 years ago
Well mudchair if you paid some attention to the program this is about WWII, where of dogfights was how air combat was carried out... its not like they had super advanced homing missiles and stuff like they have today
Multimediadesigneren 4 years ago 2
And how did the Germans fare in the war?
butterfly1945 4 years ago
4 words.
You are an idiot.
unixslave 4 years ago
mudchair, I have to agree with you. Hartmann had 352 kills and died an old man in 1993. a lot of 'dogfighters' went down in flames very young. The german aces stalked their pray like von richthofen in WWI. They hunted, they didn't go and look for fights. Dont get me wrong, I think dogfights are the most exciting thing ever, but not the smartest. Those who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.
DEANMARITA 3 years ago 3
You are right. Especially when considering Hartmann. Dogfighting proved to be tiresome and exhausting. Nevertheless dogfighting is more entertaining for the young top guns... than it is for the old guys... :-)
mainframeai 3 years ago
I'm afraid the good old days of dogfighting have passed. Close in, with guns. Thats the only pure dogfight. I have an idea thats been swimming around in my head for a while. Like the "Red bull air races",but instead of racing, pilots should dogfight. Planes should be fitted with cencors,smoke pods,cameras ect. If your 'hit',the smoke starts to pump. It could be a great show and it would keep dogfighting alive.
DEANMARITA 4 years ago
That would be really great. There are programs where you can dogfight for like $1200 w/ other wannabe dogfighters. fightercombat(.)com is one such site which popped up on google.
YouT00ber 4 years ago
I know about these programs, but people only do it once for the experience. I wanna see world class pilots take each other on. Ex-military pilots, aerobatics pilots, race pilots. Guys that push the limits. And I would like to see it every week. And I wanna see them do it in mean machines. It would become a popular sport and I'd like to be a part of it. Great video, by the way!
DEANMARITA 4 years ago