Ok, so I am an American, and my cousin recommended that I watch dr who and torchwood after but he warned me not to watch children of the earth because he was mentally disturbed for weeks after seeing it.
I think Ianto should have, if at all, died incredibly heroically. It seems like he died for completely no reason. I am ok when a character in a TV show I love dies, just as long as he/she dies for a reason.
I LOVE your accent (for americans like myself it's an accent) and it's mesmerizing!
I'm gona use it as background noise for when i mediate, I mean Mitigate, no medicate, ahhh muticate... no that's not it either... meditate. yea, Meditation. it's very soothing.
O'm, enthroalling british accent, O'm, enraptureing accent O'm, Zzzzzzzzzz
the whole thing was disturbing but i only cried when ianto died even though it at actually been spoiled for me earlier it was still so sad :(
they could have kept him alive and left him with gwen and have only jack go to the building or something!! but no, they just HAD to have a reason for jack to leave, which i guess makes sense but still i mean they spent two whole seasons developing these characters and now the only one who's going to be on the next season is jack! :(
You know, watching this I realized something I never really thought of before. A lot of Torchwood (and CoE especially of course) is really really traumatizing and horrible and sad, but I never really realized how innovative that all is. As in, in a way it's all TOO much, it gets so depressing you don't want to watch anymore, but I honestly cannot think of another series where they'd actually go as far as doing all that. Maybe I just don't watch enough TV, but to me it seems like...
@ tryanjohnson, and how would she know if anyone's a BNP supporter unless you comment party-political topics in the first place? Anyways they're her videos after all, you don't go around writing on other people's bedroom walls in the name of free speech, do you?
The show justed showed how much of a pussy the U.K. is. I mean come on; you never give up you kids no matter what! You fight till you win or till you die, and you die fighting. Dang pussies.
I thought that Torchwood: COI was great, but too much of a down. Season two of Torchwood was great as well, but again, was too depressing throughout. I guess I'm too optimistic for my own good.
i was in love with lanto. D* => and gwen, WOW. she really improved in this.. seire? u call that a series? WELL, i think the future of torchwood is that its afew eyars l8r, jack has a new team, and Gwen gets re-envolved, and she gets abit pissed that jack has "replaced" her alredy.
Yeah, and all for what....a drug war. How messed up was that. The population of an entire planet held for ransom for the high. It just makes it all the more disgusting.... great story.
I feel kind of guilty because every time I find out one of the Torchwood crew is dying, I hope it's Gwen, because I love the others so much.
I do like her more now though. It just took a long time for me to get to like her. I liked her so much in Children of Earth, because she finally stopped pining over Jack.
I am so curious about what's going to happen with season 4. I think that Gwen will gather people into a new Torchwood team and just keep going until Jack comes back. I especially hope that she steals Martha and Mickey away from whatever they are doing, that would be fun ^__^ But then it might just feel too much like a Doctor Who cast offs show.
Russell said in an interview with Michael Ausiello that there will be a season 4 of Torchwood.
...but he put some evil foreshadowing in that it might be a new cast. I hope they keep it the cast the same heck Rhys was getting greater screntime too, I'd just hate to see the last three go especially after Ianto dying.
I don't believe he would get rid of Gwen and Rhys, but I could understand if she didn't want to be doing it as much post baby. I see her still working Torchwood, with a new crew, and Rhys being the stay at home ^__^
dont feel bad. i always hope its gwen that dies, but oh well. if Tosh hadnt died n series 2 then this serieas problem would be sorted in seconds. I miss Tosh.
I thought that was what made Ianto's death so tragic, and therefore made us care more, making the death scene sadder. I kinda saw it coming, then told myself it wasn't possible for them to kill off another character. Although imo, Gwen is the best character, not Ianto, 'cause she has the main relatable role (like SJA's Maria, and the companions). I think series four might get us Martha back + 2 new characters, so not to make it so diffferent to how we're used to, and Rhys/Kai keep a lead role.
Good review. However, I must say that IF Torchwood is to return, it needs to be with a new cast and crew. I can tolerate Gwynne. She should be the new leader. Perhaps with her police friend who stepped-out to defend the children and with her hubbie who can serve quite a role behind the scenes How about Frobisher's assistant too?. BTW, if he is still alive and viable, the character Billings from Season 1 would be great villain to return..
I would like to see the adventures of Jack and his gradual change into the Face of Boe like between each season a few million years go by. Like him singing with the ood and going threw spiritual paths over billions of years. Like an immortal space traveling Gandhi.
"Just kill off Rhys instead" - EXACTLY my reaction to Ianto's death.
I've only just got to watch it because I've been away, so I watched all five episodes in one go. Oh dear Lord, it was absolutely traumatising. I think my heart may have broken a tiny bit.
I agree with what you said about it being a bit like Midnight...it shows the human race doing whatever they need to to save their own skins from a situation they don't really understand.
Wow, so you would rather want a father-to-be to die instead of Jack's gay coffe boy? Not that I'm a homophobe, but I'd take Ianto over traumatising Gwen like that.
i could not breath, could not move, could not drink my tea watching this brilliant series russel t davies out did himself on this one, i can forgive him now for that not so good but not so bad season four finale of Doctor Who.
wow, i just can't get my head around everything that happened. Frobisher was such a sad, terrible, almost cowardly character ... he was my favorite because he seemed the most real.
and Ianto! aww, i love him! i love that he had such a growth from the first episode to his last, how he grew as a character.
AND eve myles is talking like there is a 4th series, even though it hasn't been mentioned yet.
Agreed about Frobisher. I was thinking "man, if he just waited a little longer, the threat would have been over" --of course, he had no hope of that at the time...but I was completely horrified with his role, more so than Jack's killing the grandson, which was horrible too.
Just finished watching CoE in the U.S. and I have to say that this was frakkin' awesome! I laughed, I cried, I cheered, and I cursed Jack out for every necessary evil that he perpetrated. I loved Ianto's sister. I hated the government for their callousness. I'm praying for a return of this show next year, but if not, then that was one Hell of an Ending.
I loved COE because it didn't just personify the government as this solely callous, evil machine that carelessly sacrificed the children. If you watch closely, everyone is careful to detach themselves from the incredibly inhuman thing they were about to do. Referring to the kids as "units," handing the operation in a really clinical manner, separating themselves from the actual dirty work of collecting the children.
there's so much more I'd like to comment on, I might just make a video response
OMG!!! i can't believe Ianto died he was my fav. charecter, and now i look back you're right the signs are all there but for some reason nobody expected it xx can't believe he's gone, all his one-liners just distant memorys *cries* =(
Ianto was my favorite as well. I cried, but ahh, I loved that scene. It was so fantastic. But I always love death scenes, they're always the best and most emotional and just generally amazing. And this series thing was just breathtaking. Like, I've never watched Torchwood for quality TV, but this WAS.
I think the 3rd episode was my fave because it showed Rhys getting involved & was a kind of positive build up b4 the depressive episodes of 4 & 5. I am sad they killed Ianto espesh after they killed Tosh & Owen! I was so sad when jack let them kill steven.
I think Jack's exit didn't do him justice, it made him look cowardly and not like he was going away to think about those he'd lost just like he was running and leaving gwen alone. The next series NEEDS Gwen & Rhys :P
The last two episodes were heartbreaking, even what John Frobisher decided to do. And that description in the Guardian of what happened to Ianto is spot on, I don't want him to be dead! My sister and I talked about what happened to Myfanwy, we wanted to know about that too.
In regards to Waters of Mars, was it a big spoiler that the trailer had the footage of the Master as a child looking into the vortex or did I see a fake trailer?
It was brilliant but I really am gutted about Ianto. I found day 5 fairly disturbing in parts, especially that pan out from the door in Frobisher's house; I really didn't expect them to let you hear the shots. :(
Ah I liked how they had a 5 episodes in a week format, I wouldn't mind seeing Dr Who try it as I sometimes fine the stories are too short and don't let the action build up enough before suddenly it's all over again.
I really liked Gwen, and the whole Welsh sense of humour they had going with the sharp tongue and all that. I hope if they do have a new cast then it'll be a match for the original cast.
I thought the format could work for Doctor Who. One of the things I think made this series of Torchwood stand out was the supporting characters had enough time to be fleshed out and made interesting so you really do feel for them. In the old format of Doctor Who they could do that over 4 or 6 episodes, rather than having to wrap the who thing up in 45 minutes leaving very little time for anything other than a couple of lines before being brutally done away with.
I've never been a huge fan of Torchwood, but the 5 episodes were absolutely amazing. Even though it was all the same story, having 5 episodes worked really well and I have to admit I was crying so much at the end. :]
A very good season. I'd say the best character of the mini-series was Mr. Frobisher. The actor obviously put so much into it. The final scene with him in was one of the most tragic in Doctor Who/Torchwood/SJA history.
I think because John Barrowman has been seen on the set of DW, that the Doctor will tell him he's only human. Also when Jack was talking about all the dead people it reminded me so much of the doctor that I think he will encourage jack to come back. Then it will be Jack, Gwen, probably Rhys and Lois, maybe PC Andy and maybe Martha or Mickey. Depends what's happening. Or Maybe some new blood :)
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I didn't see the Ianto death coming (other than a spoiler that day) but looking back I saw how they were setting that up. This was probably one of the saddest/emotions tugging storylines on Torchwood so far. They did a great job.
I saw somewhere that they have season 4 ready and waiting, but are waiting to see how CoE does. It's gonna be different and w.o Jack it might lose a lot of ppl. We'll see though.
What'd be cool is another spin-off w/ Jack on the way to Face of Boe.
Do you really think that they will continue tourchwood, im not so sure seems like its run its course, doctor who is on its last legs too, great shows but im not sure
Torchwood got stuffed around on Australian TV. A commercial network bought season one and ran it laaaate at night. I think the ABC (sister company to the BBC, they also do Dr Who) picked it up but I have no idea what's happening with it now. :(
And I didn't like the end at first, just b/c I couldn't believe Jack would do that. But after letting it sink in,it was in line with the mood of Torchwood and showing the darkness of humanity at times. It added depth to Jack's character-- Someone has to make those hard decisions... and it kills Jack that it's him that has to do that, but he knows he has to. Tragic.
I think the description "I loved in it a painful way" is spot on. Really good, but incredibly sad.
I didn't really like that Ianto died, but if that's what they felt they had to do, they did it well... He was my favorite character on the show as well :-(. His character was so great, especially during Children of Earth. But when he said "I love you" when he was dying and Jack said "don't", it was so heartfelt and a painfully great moment.
Rosianna, I LOVE your new look. You look gorgeous :)
I used to hate Torchwood, but CoE made me completely 180. I loved it immensely. I even liked Gwen. Which for me, is like saying I love....I don't know....she's my Torchwood Martha....again, which is like saying.....
I do like her now though. And I don't think she's leaving. S4 will be Jack, Gwen, Lois, Agent Johnson and Martha.
Putting it all on in one week was good for torchwood because it was one continuos storyline, unlike doctor who where most of the episodes are individual stories on their own. The sound of the gun when the Prime Minister killed his family was horrible and gut wrenching and it really got the message across. I think the producers said that if this is received well enough, they will do another season and if they do hopefully it will keep to the same standard.
also about seeing a lot of midnight in the miny series, im about 98% positive that the news castor is the woman who played sky....i should imdb that...
This mini serious has made it to the top of my Dr. Who and spin offs favourites list. I agree I think it was very well written and beautifully acted! It was the first time I found myself really liking Gwen. Before I only just tolerated her.
Losing Ianto was one of the hardest parts for me to watch! I absolutely loved him as a character and I loved his relationship with Jack. I'm afraid that without Ianto the next season is going to have a very different Jack, and not in such a good way!
agreed about the gwen bit. i only could bare her for about 10 minutes, i think it was because she was fitted in awkaurdly. like she didn't belong because she was no anything about it all- which i know watch doctor who does with his new companions, but i like the way the story lines ease them into it all, it seemed like gwen was thrown into the deep end.
[unpopular mode on] I think this series was complete and utter rubbish. The biggest pile of crap ever to come out of RTD's keyboard. He completely and utterly destroyed arguably the greatest heroic character (aside from the Doctor, obviously) to ever come out of the Whovian universe. He murdered his own grandson, FFS. Couldn't care less if there's a 4th season. If Jack is in it, I'm not watching. My condolences to Barrowman. I feel bad for him having his beloved character destroyed like that.
Do you also hate The Doctor for killing off his entire species?
Because if not you are a giant hypocrite.
Where on earth did you get this idea that the "Hero" has to have almost deity like powers and compassion?
Jack's story was one of a tragic hero. He by his own blustering bravado essentially murdered the man he loved and had backed himself into such a corner that the only solution available in the 2 minutes left to him was to kill his grandson. An act of unparalleled utilitarianism.
And before the time war, The Doctor was a rather vicious motherfucker to boot. The Sixth Doctor has killed with his own two hands, the Seventh manipulated Davros into destroying Skaro, The Doctor himself is a giant, collosal hypocrite, the Tenth STILL fashions people into weapons
amen sister so well written and acted but it still feels as if someone has pulled out my heart and stabbed it full of pins then microwaved it and other horrible things it broke me put me together again and again and it was so wonderful I can not not think it was brilliant
I thought that secutary was gonna kill the Prime minister but i guess he got his cumuppence anyway. Also i'm no war mongerer but coulden't they turn the poison off in that 456's chamber and kill him? Why did they build that landing chamber in the first place? why can't earth fight these aliens with the military? why was that incredibly right wing cabinet member like "ok guys let's sacrifice all the stupid people because they have less right to live" and this was agreed up on as a great idea?
Killing the 456 in the chamber would have done them no good, as it wasn't the only one. They built the chamber to recieve the 456 because they didn't know for certain that their intentions were hostile, and it was the best way to try to talk to them to cover up the events of the past. They couldn't be fought with military force, since Earth couldn't even detect them with Torchwood tech. The worst students were intended as a "make the best of a bad situation" sort of plan.
They did know that they're intentions were hostile because they took 12 children before and if they didn't recieve the 12 children they were gonna release a virus. They didn't have the technology to dectect what might not even be there in the first place? And "make the best of a bad situation" is justification of valuing the poorer less fortunate people in favour for the rich and mighty?
500 characters not enough, apparently. I was just waiting for the Doctor or even Martha to show up, especially with the UNIT involvement. Is she still a part of UNIT? I liked the little references to those two. Gwen makes a good point about sometimes the Doctor comes to save the day and, well, sometimes he doesn't.
I really liked CoE. Ianto's death felt almost shoehorned though, because as you say there was no heroic saving-the-world action, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Jack's the immortal one, why was Ianto there? Also how did the technician old guy survive when everyone else in Thames House apparently die?
I loved the casting. Peter Capaldi is a great actor. It took me a while to realise where I recgonised Liz May Brice from, but she was in Dead Set from last October. Yay :)
I was really upset when Ianto died, it was such a great ep and then to end it with THAT. Eurgh. I just wasn't happy with how it all ended I mean GREAT show, beautifully made and produced but I sort of wanted to Doctor to come and save the day and give us back Ianto. Hopefully the Christmas specials will set Jack back on the way to letting there be a fourth series!
I know, it really does raise interesting questions about The Doctor and his TARDIS, about why the TARDIS chooses the Earth sometimes and doesn't at others. It's not shame, I don't think.
i like it very much it was sad what jack did but it is like the doctor who had to killed both the times lords and the daleks, i i think that the doctor and jack are a like .
also i found that this little seris was good it the way that it was on for 5 days it fitted in and the daeth of jones
plus i do not know if their is goin to be any more Torchwood after that.
I saw the whole thing in five hours, and it was an emotional rollercoaster, from biting my nails due to the excitement, to wiping away my tears.
I read that Russell T. Davies already had the fourth series, just waiting for the green light. However, I do wonder how they will bring back the surviving cast back together. I do want Gwen to stay, but I don't see how she fits anymore, she has a whole new life ahead
Exactly, and it seems not only reckless of her to risk being unable to look after her child, but very very unlike Gwen. I know it's a gender stereotype that a mother should look after the child, but I really feel as though Gwen's character has been established as such that she would.
You look AMAZING with brown hair! OMG
happyrose80 2 days ago
Ok, so I am an American, and my cousin recommended that I watch dr who and torchwood after but he warned me not to watch children of the earth because he was mentally disturbed for weeks after seeing it.
Ultravis66 8 months ago
I think Ianto should have, if at all, died incredibly heroically. It seems like he died for completely no reason. I am ok when a character in a TV show I love dies, just as long as he/she dies for a reason.
democrat1515 10 months ago
@democrat1515 Cant agree enough his death was the biggest dissapoitment of the show
RiPTheRevAx7 6 months ago
Wait....when was your hair BROWN?! I don't really like Torchwood....sorry....
HermioneTimeLord46 1 year ago
I LOVE your accent (for americans like myself it's an accent) and it's mesmerizing!
I'm gona use it as background noise for when i mediate, I mean Mitigate, no medicate, ahhh muticate... no that's not it either... meditate. yea, Meditation. it's very soothing.
O'm, enthroalling british accent, O'm, enraptureing accent O'm, Zzzzzzzzzz
Koejopley 1 year ago
the whole thing was disturbing but i only cried when ianto died even though it at actually been spoiled for me earlier it was still so sad :(
they could have kept him alive and left him with gwen and have only jack go to the building or something!! but no, they just HAD to have a reason for jack to leave, which i guess makes sense but still i mean they spent two whole seasons developing these characters and now the only one who's going to be on the next season is jack! :(
moonkittenlunasky 1 year ago
You know, watching this I realized something I never really thought of before. A lot of Torchwood (and CoE especially of course) is really really traumatizing and horrible and sad, but I never really realized how innovative that all is. As in, in a way it's all TOO much, it gets so depressing you don't want to watch anymore, but I honestly cannot think of another series where they'd actually go as far as doing all that. Maybe I just don't watch enough TV, but to me it seems like...
hollabooiers 1 year ago
@hollabooiers ... a rather bold thing to do in a series.
That was badly phrased and probably not particularly interesting to anyone but me, but what the hell. I never looked at it like that before.
hollabooiers 1 year ago
@ tryanjohnson, and how would she know if anyone's a BNP supporter unless you comment party-political topics in the first place? Anyways they're her videos after all, you don't go around writing on other people's bedroom walls in the name of free speech, do you?
chronoporter 1 year ago
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tryanjohnson 1 year ago
She does not let BNP supporters comment on videos.
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tryanjohnson 1 year ago
The hub can always be rebuilt
Caboose11 1 year ago
I cried when Ianto died. the 456 was just sick. I mean using children as drugs?!?! WTF?! Its horrible!
mvapj 1 year ago
My god you are cute, and I love your accent and the way you speak. Very good review.
lacountess 1 year ago
IANTO!!! i cried..... i really did..... *sniff*
lulabell0 1 year ago
The fourth episode never happened! NEVER HAPPENED! *still in denial* We refer to it as "The Unspeakable Act".
theblackestdove 1 year ago
it made me sick
children=drugs WTF sick thing ;)
DEVILDAY666 2 years ago 2
The show justed showed how much of a pussy the U.K. is. I mean come on; you never give up you kids no matter what! You fight till you win or till you die, and you die fighting. Dang pussies.
knightquest007 2 years ago
RTD says that he knows exactly how he would pick Torchwood if the BBC comission a series 4. Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaase do.
Plus, why does everyone dislike Gwen. I love her but everyones all up her shit? Love that phrase.
imgonnahurtugood 2 years ago
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Torchwood is an anagram of Doctor Who:
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EXOMATRlXTV 2 years ago
Typhoon you cockjob.RTD is a BABE! he writes good stuff.
William0Mason 2 years ago
SHUT UP TYPHOON666
she constantly brings up good points:)
mattharthello 2 years ago
I Think your better than amazing:)
mattharthello 2 years ago
It was alright until RTD wrote the last episode and shitted everything up.
Typhoon6666 2 years ago
very good points. Your amazing!
William0Mason 2 years ago
your lovely:)
mattharthello 2 years ago
What I liked about chidren of Earth was it was a left-wing Qatermass. One up the rear end for Knel. If you know what I mean.
Endathecyberlord 2 years ago
I thought that Torchwood: COI was great, but too much of a down. Season two of Torchwood was great as well, but again, was too depressing throughout. I guess I'm too optimistic for my own good.
2ndCorpsAnv 2 years ago 2
i was in love with lanto. D* => and gwen, WOW. she really improved in this.. seire? u call that a series? WELL, i think the future of torchwood is that its afew eyars l8r, jack has a new team, and Gwen gets re-envolved, and she gets abit pissed that jack has "replaced" her alredy.
martha368 2 years ago
Yeah, and all for what....a drug war. How messed up was that. The population of an entire planet held for ransom for the high. It just makes it all the more disgusting.... great story.
c00lwatter 2 years ago
I feel kind of guilty because every time I find out one of the Torchwood crew is dying, I hope it's Gwen, because I love the others so much.
I do like her more now though. It just took a long time for me to get to like her. I liked her so much in Children of Earth, because she finally stopped pining over Jack.
Silver1226 2 years ago 2
I am so curious about what's going to happen with season 4. I think that Gwen will gather people into a new Torchwood team and just keep going until Jack comes back. I especially hope that she steals Martha and Mickey away from whatever they are doing, that would be fun ^__^ But then it might just feel too much like a Doctor Who cast offs show.
Russell said in an interview with Michael Ausiello that there will be a season 4 of Torchwood.
Silver1226 2 years ago
Oh, and it seems Alonzo will be back at the end [of David's Doctor] for some reason ^__^
Silver1226 2 years ago
...but he put some evil foreshadowing in that it might be a new cast. I hope they keep it the cast the same heck Rhys was getting greater screntime too, I'd just hate to see the last three go especially after Ianto dying.
CardCaptorDeadpool 2 years ago
I don't believe he would get rid of Gwen and Rhys, but I could understand if she didn't want to be doing it as much post baby. I see her still working Torchwood, with a new crew, and Rhys being the stay at home ^__^
Silver1226 2 years ago
dont feel bad. i always hope its gwen that dies, but oh well. if Tosh hadnt died n series 2 then this serieas problem would be sorted in seconds. I miss Tosh.
Zoball1 2 years ago
Torchwood finaly grew up and became the show it was going to be.
Endathecyberlord 2 years ago 11
I thought that was what made Ianto's death so tragic, and therefore made us care more, making the death scene sadder. I kinda saw it coming, then told myself it wasn't possible for them to kill off another character. Although imo, Gwen is the best character, not Ianto, 'cause she has the main relatable role (like SJA's Maria, and the companions). I think series four might get us Martha back + 2 new characters, so not to make it so diffferent to how we're used to, and Rhys/Kai keep a lead role.
IntaXonem 2 years ago
Good review. However, I must say that IF Torchwood is to return, it needs to be with a new cast and crew. I can tolerate Gwynne. She should be the new leader. Perhaps with her police friend who stepped-out to defend the children and with her hubbie who can serve quite a role behind the scenes How about Frobisher's assistant too?. BTW, if he is still alive and viable, the character Billings from Season 1 would be great villain to return..
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PappyCaligula 2 years ago
I would like to see the adventures of Jack and his gradual change into the Face of Boe like between each season a few million years go by. Like him singing with the ood and going threw spiritual paths over billions of years. Like an immortal space traveling Gandhi.
Kaginokstaka 2 years ago
"Just kill off Rhys instead" - EXACTLY my reaction to Ianto's death.
I've only just got to watch it because I've been away, so I watched all five episodes in one go. Oh dear Lord, it was absolutely traumatising. I think my heart may have broken a tiny bit.
I agree with what you said about it being a bit like Midnight...it shows the human race doing whatever they need to to save their own skins from a situation they don't really understand.
Great review
=D
proudveggie 2 years ago 5
Wow, so you would rather want a father-to-be to die instead of Jack's gay coffe boy? Not that I'm a homophobe, but I'd take Ianto over traumatising Gwen like that.
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago
Ironic how they all deny being a homophobe right after they spew a distinctly homophobic remark. Just saying.
lacountess 1 year ago
i could not breath, could not move, could not drink my tea watching this brilliant series russel t davies out did himself on this one, i can forgive him now for that not so good but not so bad season four finale of Doctor Who.
doctorw2 2 years ago
i just finished watching it on BBC america ...
wow, i just can't get my head around everything that happened. Frobisher was such a sad, terrible, almost cowardly character ... he was my favorite because he seemed the most real.
and Ianto! aww, i love him! i love that he had such a growth from the first episode to his last, how he grew as a character.
AND eve myles is talking like there is a 4th series, even though it hasn't been mentioned yet.
allons-y ianto works almost as well :(
abell7428 2 years ago
Agreed about Frobisher. I was thinking "man, if he just waited a little longer, the threat would have been over" --of course, he had no hope of that at the time...but I was completely horrified with his role, more so than Jack's killing the grandson, which was horrible too.
sorcha425 2 years ago
I just finished watching it on BBC America. It was so amazing. I loved it!
Ianto is dead. I can never be happy again. Okay, that's an exaggeration, but I'm still very saddened.
That last episode was so heartbreaking.
Torchwood is usually kind of hit-or-miss for me, but this was just fantastic.
arthurweasley 2 years ago
Just finished watching CoE in the U.S. and I have to say that this was frakkin' awesome! I laughed, I cried, I cheered, and I cursed Jack out for every necessary evil that he perpetrated. I loved Ianto's sister. I hated the government for their callousness. I'm praying for a return of this show next year, but if not, then that was one Hell of an Ending.
Stingmon21 2 years ago
I loved COE because it didn't just personify the government as this solely callous, evil machine that carelessly sacrificed the children. If you watch closely, everyone is careful to detach themselves from the incredibly inhuman thing they were about to do. Referring to the kids as "units," handing the operation in a really clinical manner, separating themselves from the actual dirty work of collecting the children.
there's so much more I'd like to comment on, I might just make a video response
whyyohyou 2 years ago
It was so sad :(
I hadn't even gotten over Tosh and Owen yet and they do THIS.
Still amazing though.
blingdaleks 2 years ago
You look really good in this!
BreanaMurphy 2 years ago
The Torchwood Three Hub will possibly be rebuilt.
Kaagh178 2 years ago
LIKE THE EYELINER.
=D
nerimon 2 years ago
OMG!!! i can't believe Ianto died he was my fav. charecter, and now i look back you're right the signs are all there but for some reason nobody expected it xx can't believe he's gone, all his one-liners just distant memorys *cries* =(
xkadie999x 2 years ago
Ianto was my favorite as well. I cried, but ahh, I loved that scene. It was so fantastic. But I always love death scenes, they're always the best and most emotional and just generally amazing. And this series thing was just breathtaking. Like, I've never watched Torchwood for quality TV, but this WAS.
rachlovesmoony 2 years ago
i totaly agree with you. It was so emotional.
I hope for a next seasion, but they would need a totaly new team.
Legomoves 2 years ago
I cried for three days after Ianto died... and i'm still tragically upset that Myfanwy is prolly gone as well.
It was amazingly well written ... but i cannot watch days four and five because i'm still just too upset by the loss of Ianto...
squirrelyTONKS 2 years ago
i think the 5th episode was the most heartbreaking thing ever, don't rush into watching it :P it is amazingly written but quite cruel.
shorrtty09 2 years ago
I think the 3rd episode was my fave because it showed Rhys getting involved & was a kind of positive build up b4 the depressive episodes of 4 & 5. I am sad they killed Ianto espesh after they killed Tosh & Owen! I was so sad when jack let them kill steven.
I think Jack's exit didn't do him justice, it made him look cowardly and not like he was going away to think about those he'd lost just like he was running and leaving gwen alone. The next series NEEDS Gwen & Rhys :P
shorrtty09 2 years ago 3
Ianto was always my favourite too. Was absolutely gutted when he died.
I think if they do do another series (doubt they will) they'll bring back Louis Habiba, defo.
PS Yes, Gwen definitely can be annoying.
MissTimewaster 2 years ago 3
Im going to shoot up on some kids now..be back in a sec. lol
daly154 2 years ago
Haven't they canceled torchwood now :( That's what john had said in a newspaper anyway
JustBecki01 2 years ago
I've heard from a few sources that they will do a series 4.
squirrelyTONKS 2 years ago
yeahh, it's been said by RTD that series 4 is "ready to go" but it's airing depends on the views reached by series 3. (:
shorrtty09 2 years ago
5.05 - They're apparently called "The Flood"
lfcforever93 2 years ago 2
The last two episodes were heartbreaking, even what John Frobisher decided to do. And that description in the Guardian of what happened to Ianto is spot on, I don't want him to be dead! My sister and I talked about what happened to Myfanwy, we wanted to know about that too.
In regards to Waters of Mars, was it a big spoiler that the trailer had the footage of the Master as a child looking into the vortex or did I see a fake trailer?
lrocke08 2 years ago 3
It was brilliant but I really am gutted about Ianto. I found day 5 fairly disturbing in parts, especially that pan out from the door in Frobisher's house; I really didn't expect them to let you hear the shots. :(
Baconfish 2 years ago 2
I felt a very Christmas Invasion-y vibe.
-aliens control only some people.
-aliens say they want some people or they kill all people.
-aliens get killed.
HungriMunki 2 years ago 2
Ah I liked how they had a 5 episodes in a week format, I wouldn't mind seeing Dr Who try it as I sometimes fine the stories are too short and don't let the action build up enough before suddenly it's all over again.
I really liked Gwen, and the whole Welsh sense of humour they had going with the sharp tongue and all that. I hope if they do have a new cast then it'll be a match for the original cast.
horrendousblah 2 years ago
ohh i love the hair color... sorry i had to say that. i haven't seen torchwood but a few times :/
baobabtrees 2 years ago
My one big gripe about this serial.........they killed off IANTO !!!
sauronbaggins 2 years ago 2
You look great in this video. :)
Thanks for the review...I plan to watch!
digismurf 2 years ago
I thought the format could work for Doctor Who. One of the things I think made this series of Torchwood stand out was the supporting characters had enough time to be fleshed out and made interesting so you really do feel for them. In the old format of Doctor Who they could do that over 4 or 6 episodes, rather than having to wrap the who thing up in 45 minutes leaving very little time for anything other than a couple of lines before being brutally done away with.
grnlfe01 2 years ago
I've never been a huge fan of Torchwood, but the 5 episodes were absolutely amazing. Even though it was all the same story, having 5 episodes worked really well and I have to admit I was crying so much at the end. :]
RebeccaInTheTARDIS 2 years ago
It was amazing, so sad, but amazing. The last two episodes made me cry more than any TV show has before, however it was still beautiful. =] <3
ElvendorkGirl 2 years ago
A very good season. I'd say the best character of the mini-series was Mr. Frobisher. The actor obviously put so much into it. The final scene with him in was one of the most tragic in Doctor Who/Torchwood/SJA history.
Trayusstudent1 2 years ago 5
This season of torchwood was good. I wanted to hate it, but couldn't...
agentbjb 2 years ago
Killing Owen was bad enough, but Ianto? Too far :(
heymcfly53 2 years ago 9
Way too God damn far for me...
My heart is in tatters...
jadzia911 2 years ago 2
*Spoiler*
I think because John Barrowman has been seen on the set of DW, that the Doctor will tell him he's only human. Also when Jack was talking about all the dead people it reminded me so much of the doctor that I think he will encourage jack to come back. Then it will be Jack, Gwen, probably Rhys and Lois, maybe PC Andy and maybe Martha or Mickey. Depends what's happening. Or Maybe some new blood :)
DistantFairytale 2 years ago
I think they should have Gwen, Jack and a buncha new peoples.
orbital151 2 years ago
I know what you mean - I still haven't got over it. I keep thinking about it - stonking stuff!!
grantha 2 years ago
Hehe. Really funny and good review. Nice one! Enjoyed it alot. =)
vortexguyz934 2 years ago
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VortexOfTime2 2 years ago
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VortexOfTime2 2 years ago
if u missed it u can watch it on iplayer ^^
i enjoyed watchin the children of earth it was awesome!
nothingtado1 2 years ago
I didn't see the Ianto death coming (other than a spoiler that day) but looking back I saw how they were setting that up. This was probably one of the saddest/emotions tugging storylines on Torchwood so far. They did a great job.
I saw somewhere that they have season 4 ready and waiting, but are waiting to see how CoE does. It's gonna be different and w.o Jack it might lose a lot of ppl. We'll see though.
What'd be cool is another spin-off w/ Jack on the way to Face of Boe.
livin4hymn 2 years ago
"Sometimes the Doctor must look at this planet and look away in shame.
JXintheZ 2 years ago 3
best quote from this mini-series
livin4hymn 2 years ago
that was the moment I most liked Gwen (when she said that)
LoveLittleMissMunich 2 years ago
Do you really think that they will continue tourchwood, im not so sure seems like its run its course, doctor who is on its last legs too, great shows but im not sure
jackeyramone 2 years ago
Torchwood got stuffed around on Australian TV. A commercial network bought season one and ran it laaaate at night. I think the ABC (sister company to the BBC, they also do Dr Who) picked it up but I have no idea what's happening with it now. :(
VicMorrowsGhost 2 years ago
And I didn't like the end at first, just b/c I couldn't believe Jack would do that. But after letting it sink in,it was in line with the mood of Torchwood and showing the darkness of humanity at times. It added depth to Jack's character-- Someone has to make those hard decisions... and it kills Jack that it's him that has to do that, but he knows he has to. Tragic.
I think the description "I loved in it a painful way" is spot on. Really good, but incredibly sad.
TMParrish2011 2 years ago 2
I didn't really like that Ianto died, but if that's what they felt they had to do, they did it well... He was my favorite character on the show as well :-(. His character was so great, especially during Children of Earth. But when he said "I love you" when he was dying and Jack said "don't", it was so heartfelt and a painfully great moment.
TMParrish2011 2 years ago 2
I heard RTD is a fan of SKINS...which threw out the cast for the third season..so who knows...
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago
its not on bbc america just yet - it starts on the 21st
*stopping video at 10 seconds so as not to be spoiled*
i love your vids though, so ill come back to this one later :]
abell7428 2 years ago
I agree about pretty much everything you said in the video. Ianto was my favorite character too. :(
Aussiescopper 2 years ago 2
Rosianna, I LOVE your new look. You look gorgeous :)
I used to hate Torchwood, but CoE made me completely 180. I loved it immensely. I even liked Gwen. Which for me, is like saying I love....I don't know....she's my Torchwood Martha....again, which is like saying.....
I do like her now though. And I don't think she's leaving. S4 will be Jack, Gwen, Lois, Agent Johnson and Martha.
BUT IANTO DIED!!!! I sobbed. I'm still in denial.
PrincessPotato 2 years ago
Putting it all on in one week was good for torchwood because it was one continuos storyline, unlike doctor who where most of the episodes are individual stories on their own. The sound of the gun when the Prime Minister killed his family was horrible and gut wrenching and it really got the message across. I think the producers said that if this is received well enough, they will do another season and if they do hopefully it will keep to the same standard.
musicania 2 years ago
the gun shot reminded me from that child abuse advert, where the girl gets slapped about 30 times when they speed it up, (n) not good.
twonk12 2 years ago
kkk, nine seconds in to the video i just have to sayy;
you look gorgeous in this!! i am soo jealous. .
now all the "logical" -scoff- "more articulate" commenting may resume..
(: Lol i don't watch torchwood! i would if i knew when it aired in the USA!
:(
ah, well..
jewel819 2 years ago
also about seeing a lot of midnight in the miny series, im about 98% positive that the news castor is the woman who played sky....i should imdb that...
smilenose 2 years ago
WHY MUST YOU MOCK US AMERICANS. *Storms off*
imperfecttt 2 years ago
you can watch it all online, thats how i did it, and if you dont want to its going to be on bbc america starting monday (at 9est i believe)
smilenose 2 years ago
This mini serious has made it to the top of my Dr. Who and spin offs favourites list. I agree I think it was very well written and beautifully acted! It was the first time I found myself really liking Gwen. Before I only just tolerated her.
Losing Ianto was one of the hardest parts for me to watch! I absolutely loved him as a character and I loved his relationship with Jack. I'm afraid that without Ianto the next season is going to have a very different Jack, and not in such a good way!
ImArielle 2 years ago
agreed about the gwen bit. i only could bare her for about 10 minutes, i think it was because she was fitted in awkaurdly. like she didn't belong because she was no anything about it all- which i know watch doctor who does with his new companions, but i like the way the story lines ease them into it all, it seemed like gwen was thrown into the deep end.
twonk12 2 years ago
[unpopular mode on] I think this series was complete and utter rubbish. The biggest pile of crap ever to come out of RTD's keyboard. He completely and utterly destroyed arguably the greatest heroic character (aside from the Doctor, obviously) to ever come out of the Whovian universe. He murdered his own grandson, FFS. Couldn't care less if there's a 4th season. If Jack is in it, I'm not watching. My condolences to Barrowman. I feel bad for him having his beloved character destroyed like that.
GHRiz 2 years ago
Do you also hate The Doctor for killing off his entire species?
Because if not you are a giant hypocrite.
Where on earth did you get this idea that the "Hero" has to have almost deity like powers and compassion?
Jack's story was one of a tragic hero. He by his own blustering bravado essentially murdered the man he loved and had backed himself into such a corner that the only solution available in the 2 minutes left to him was to kill his grandson. An act of unparalleled utilitarianism.
Coffeeaddict101 2 years ago 2
Words of truth.
And before the time war, The Doctor was a rather vicious motherfucker to boot. The Sixth Doctor has killed with his own two hands, the Seventh manipulated Davros into destroying Skaro, The Doctor himself is a giant, collosal hypocrite, the Tenth STILL fashions people into weapons
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago 3
Hes a man, he gotta do what he gotta do.
c00lwatter 2 years ago
amen sister so well written and acted but it still feels as if someone has pulled out my heart and stabbed it full of pins then microwaved it and other horrible things it broke me put me together again and again and it was so wonderful I can not not think it was brilliant
WINDxDANCERxDRAGON 2 years ago
I thought that secutary was gonna kill the Prime minister but i guess he got his cumuppence anyway. Also i'm no war mongerer but coulden't they turn the poison off in that 456's chamber and kill him? Why did they build that landing chamber in the first place? why can't earth fight these aliens with the military? why was that incredibly right wing cabinet member like "ok guys let's sacrifice all the stupid people because they have less right to live" and this was agreed up on as a great idea?
S0cialGhost 2 years ago
Killing the 456 in the chamber would have done them no good, as it wasn't the only one. They built the chamber to recieve the 456 because they didn't know for certain that their intentions were hostile, and it was the best way to try to talk to them to cover up the events of the past. They couldn't be fought with military force, since Earth couldn't even detect them with Torchwood tech. The worst students were intended as a "make the best of a bad situation" sort of plan.
Didn't you watch it?
SunscorchX 2 years ago
They did know that they're intentions were hostile because they took 12 children before and if they didn't recieve the 12 children they were gonna release a virus. They didn't have the technology to dectect what might not even be there in the first place? And "make the best of a bad situation" is justification of valuing the poorer less fortunate people in favour for the rich and mighty?
Perhaps you didn't watch the show.
S0cialGhost 2 years ago
so does this mean that torchwood is over, because only 2 of the people remain, and the hub is destroyed.
that would suck, because this is an Amazing show, and killing his grandson, that was horrible.
plus the guy who killed his children, wife and himself, even though everything was fine in the end, that sucks for him.
zaneula 2 years ago
Superb drama, best Torchwood Story ever, what got me was the emotional aspect (wow) full marks .
kirksART 2 years ago
It was very good, i enjoyed it.
Great review :)
marksplaceuk 2 years ago
500 characters not enough, apparently. I was just waiting for the Doctor or even Martha to show up, especially with the UNIT involvement. Is she still a part of UNIT? I liked the little references to those two. Gwen makes a good point about sometimes the Doctor comes to save the day and, well, sometimes he doesn't.
Hope you're having a nice time in California! :D
garyskirk 2 years ago
I really liked CoE. Ianto's death felt almost shoehorned though, because as you say there was no heroic saving-the-world action, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Jack's the immortal one, why was Ianto there? Also how did the technician old guy survive when everyone else in Thames House apparently die?
I loved the casting. Peter Capaldi is a great actor. It took me a while to realise where I recgonised Liz May Brice from, but she was in Dead Set from last October. Yay :)
garyskirk 2 years ago
They showed the Technician (capitalised like a Time Lord name... xD) putting a hazmat suit on.
Technically, it wouldn't have really worked, as he'd already have been exposed to the virus, but you know... suspension of disbelief and all that.
SunscorchX 2 years ago
This has nothing to do with Torchwood, but you are absolutely gorgeous!!
underatedcheese 2 years ago 5
I was really upset when Ianto died, it was such a great ep and then to end it with THAT. Eurgh. I just wasn't happy with how it all ended I mean GREAT show, beautifully made and produced but I sort of wanted to Doctor to come and save the day and give us back Ianto. Hopefully the Christmas specials will set Jack back on the way to letting there be a fourth series!
OSUbrit 2 years ago 2
I knew that as soon as Gwen said to Louise (is that her name? I don't remember) that if she needed a job, Ianto would die. It was still sad, though.
Jack needs to come back! Please Please Please!
Gwen better stay, but I don't know if she knows enough to take control. But still.
It was amazing! It was fantastic!
DukeofYar 2 years ago
She could have been talking about the job they were going to give to the doctor who turned out to be evil in the first episode.
frogswhatfrogs 2 years ago
also, i like the few doctor refrences, and i kept thinking, "where's the doctor when you need him" :)
twonk12 2 years ago 2
I know, it really does raise interesting questions about The Doctor and his TARDIS, about why the TARDIS chooses the Earth sometimes and doesn't at others. It's not shame, I don't think.
missxrojas 2 years ago
love it! p.s. i love your earrings and you're so pretty!!!!
animeluvrrr 2 years ago
i like it very much it was sad what jack did but it is like the doctor who had to killed both the times lords and the daleks, i i think that the doctor and jack are a like .
also i found that this little seris was good it the way that it was on for 5 days it fitted in and the daeth of jones
plus i do not know if their is goin to be any more Torchwood after that.
hahazet 2 years ago
It's true, sacrifices had to be made. I sort of felt like Jack was changing into the Doctor in front of us.
missxrojas 2 years ago
me too do you think they will be more torchwood
hahazet 2 years ago
I saw the whole thing in five hours, and it was an emotional rollercoaster, from biting my nails due to the excitement, to wiping away my tears.
I read that Russell T. Davies already had the fourth series, just waiting for the green light. However, I do wonder how they will bring back the surviving cast back together. I do want Gwen to stay, but I don't see how she fits anymore, she has a whole new life ahead
lunaticaution 2 years ago
Exactly, and it seems not only reckless of her to risk being unable to look after her child, but very very unlike Gwen. I know it's a gender stereotype that a mother should look after the child, but I really feel as though Gwen's character has been established as such that she would.
missxrojas 2 years ago
thing i don't get is when gwen came back with the transporter, it worked straight away.
because on journey's end the doctor brakes it again.
maybe they forgot to put that bit it, for those who don't watch doctor who.
and agreed, i can't get over it, i thought it was a really good storyline...even though the children were so scary O_O
maybe they'll wait a couple of years until doctor who has come back on and everyone has forgotten this series of torchwood to bring it back :)
twonk12 2 years ago
No, he doesn't break it, I think he just changes the code again.
And yes, maybe they will! Maybe they want to establish doctor numero 11 first.
missxrojas 2 years ago
Maybe this is the end of Torchwood because BBC will want to focus exclusively on Doctor Who as the main franchise?
denial987 2 years ago
Yep, this is what I wondered.
missxrojas 2 years ago
I have to sit this one out because I haven't seen them! Have they really had a Torchwood special all week long on BBCAmerica?
emmfan09 2 years ago
on BBC, around July 24th it'll air all week on BBC America, i sawit by downloading the episodes
Timeforthaunted 2 years ago
See above.
flaziola 2 years ago
BBC America air this series across one week from July 20th
flaziola 2 years ago