Tekki Shodan Kata Applications (self defence)

[sbowesuk]

Lol I have to be honest, I see very little Tekki Shodan in this bunkai.

[Ronin6575]

I am not sure where those ground techniques fit into tekki but I like them.

[kenposan]

@Ronin6575

the ground fighting may not be expressly demonstrated in the kata. One theory of kata is that there was an assumption the combatants were trained (duh), so the kata shows techniques that "start you off" but you are expected to know enough to "finish it off". so in this case, the kata got him into a position to finish with ground fighting.

[Ronin6575]

@ShowYourWorking Good comment!

[jadewillow]

This is bad bunkai Here is a case of the "not knowing they don't know." There isn't one application from tekki shodan here. If some of these so called experts would just look at northern long fist or shaolin they would easily find the bunkai... But No.... they have to try and make it up and pawn it off as if they were experts.

[njtr]

Nice self defense techniques. Thanks for posting. Oss. But I think this is more Jiu Jitsu than Shotokan. Still very nice though.

[pyong69]

you are complicating too much that kata, way too far from the original bunkai

[ronin752]

@pyong69

And exactly how do you know what the original technique is???

[chudanjufood]

You know, for an application of Tekki Shodan, this guy sure is in a high stance. Kibadachi should be much deeper, even in bunkai. Don't get me wrong, its ok to come up a little bit in order to move easily, but come up too high and you become unsteady and disconnected. Your strikes will loose that penetrating affect and instead they will bounce off the opponent. They'll still hurt, and you can still knock 'em out with it if you catch them right. But they won't devastate.

[FiasaPower]

But the kiba dachi in REAL traditional karate is a HIGH STANCE . High as shizentai . Low stances isn't useful in self defense .

[ptboyindenver]

The original Okinawan kata(s) that became the tekkis were this high. But really, the stance is meaningless and the hand techniques can be applied in any stance.

Oh, and I can hit as hard standing up straight as I can in a kiba-dachi. You need to train more.

[ronin752]

@chudanjufood

Unfortunately, I am going to have to disagree with you. There is no penetration in a low kiba dachi.

[lovingisdeath]

traditional kata was formulated to record killing/maiming techniques. Tekki shodan or ku shan ku were not designed to arrest someone, nor were they created for fighting. I feel the techniques in the video bordered on being too complex for the 1-2 seconds you have to respond; I'm fairly sure intentionally going to the ground was not in the spirit of the kata as karate is a striking/joint breaking art not a grappling art.

[ronin752]

@lovingisdeath

Sort of. Naihanchi is very much a grappling kata. But you are right about the idea of intentionally going to the ground violating the spirit of kata. Not that you should be clueless if you are down there.

[stonedstew]

When I learned the tekki kata's I was informed that all three were for if you were against a wall..the horse stance needs to be deeper and I don't understand your application....As a Judoka I find your throwing technique lacking..A ippon seonage is a hip technique....Also when appling the straight arm bar your left foot should be under his left ribs like a wedge with your other leg being over his neck...less hip movement is needed for the lock, sometimes only a breath...

[karatefightr15]

@stonedstew ippon seio nage is a shoulder throw.

[Bassai]

nice bunkai, but i think you are complicating the meaning of the kata. It's too far from the original movements. sometimes a block is just a block and a punch is just a punch. it seems you want to mix jujitsu into your bunkai, which is ok, but you misinterpret the kata. Muay Thai techniques are simple, but effective... so should Karate.

[evaunit01e]

Well think about when these martial arts developed. Their creators probably didn't say "I think I'll develop a means of self defense using just blocks, kicks, and punches". Karate, like most martial arts, was a means of self defense, which means their creators were probably not going to limit their fighting methods to just blocks and strikes. They were going to show how to defend themselves at striking range AND at grappling range where most strikes would be useless.

[hermandnanner]

You not fool yourself. In kata a block is never just a block and in theTekki Kata the true bunkai following the opening move the remainder is on the ground. Nothing is being mixed in. Study your kata with an open mind. One day it will all come together.

[Bassai]

Nice bunkai, but it doesn't fit the kata. If we are to interpret them however we want, what's the point in doing the moves in such a simple manner? Sometimes a simple block is just a simple block and a punch is a simple punch. Your making the bunkai too complicated. Study Jujitsu instead.

[dav32oo8]

nice very nice

[robdiu]

really good bunkai however look into the techniques that is not the original applications these have been modified by influence of mma. However very effective.

[insomma90]

Oddio mesa ke nn l avete kapita l applicazione di tekishodan!!xDxD

[Stobbsy01]

Having competed at international level in kickboxing and also having a 3rd dan in karate I totally agree that kata bunkai such as this doesn't work in free sparring. However with the element of suprise against some some arsehole having a go at you in the street it is very practical. People just need to learn it's horses for courses!!

[Ronin6575]

This is another example of people just making up their own bunkai instead of researching in the right places.

[BandanaBoy123]

Eventually some good bunkai out here. There is so much shit around its doing my head in,

[gaugustcrane]

Check out Ko-do ryu and zen shorin do for the real applications.

[mick1tom2]

Real!

I just checked them out gaugustcrane,they may be real to you, but having had a few scraps in my time, I personally believe in hitting hard and fast, just my opinion. Good luck any way

oss

mick

[gaugustcrane]

I agree that fighting often involves hitting hard; you're spot on. But the kata was not developed for street fighting. That's why the grappling applications work perfectly: it was a complete technique for arresting someone, locking them up, dropping them to the floor and then rolling them until they gave up. The kata details all the possibilities to keep the arrestee on the floor or subdued using locks. And it must be imposed, the catalyst in the fight, not a reply to someone hitting you.

[cooks2006]

"But the kata was not developed for street fighting. That's why the grappling applications work perfectly"

Just shut up. Please.

[gaugustcrane]

Street fighting and grappling are different. Read up and don't get personal with "shut up" comments; Let's have an adult conversation.

[cooks2006]

Do you not see the inherent contradiction of your sentence?

[mico2020]

WOW! now I get the moves even better and how they flow from one of your sides to the other, wish I saw this vid yesterday :( I passed my 4 kyu and I have to say goodbye to Tekki Shodan :(

[unclebirdman]

Where's that in the Kata! The title reads Tekki Shodan Kata Applications but it looks like he applying moves from a total different, and probably non-existent, kata.

[jippzmcghee]

wow that's actually pretty cool..i had read that this was used as a grappling kata, but couldnt really see the application

[oldusedking]

There is a series of videos put out by Iain Abernethy called Bunkai-jutsu. Sorry if that's misspelled. But his bunkai seem remarkably functional and effective; they make perfect sense. He's Wado-ryu, but the bunkai are applicable to Shotokan, because the katas he analyzes are also shotokan kata (only the names are changed to protect the innocent).

[mick1tom2]

Drzacksmith I don't think these techniques can be practiced in free sparring, against a skilled fighter, but against an idiot in the street, I think they would work! Anyway, they have helped me put some meaning to some pretty useless kata moves. Thanks shotokanunleashed

[Drzacksmith]

Very good, now lets see you work some of those technics especially the throws in free sparing.

[brayden12345]

this is kata bunkai. its showing the applications to moves that we have in our kata. we train simpler techniques for sparring. and hey, what if this guy is just that good that he can perform these on people trying to hurt him. you wouldnt know.

[GriffyGriff]

Not really up to speed.