Well, thi is interesting to me because I am a professional musician, and I have Parkinson's. What I found helpful, both artistically and to get my brain thinking "motion" was the Johann Strauss waltzes.
@ LKJBFG I was not referring to internal rhythm but rather gait, as that was the impetus for the ipod conversation. To find a person's gait "tempo" you find the patient's cadence, which is the number of steps per minute. Then you play live music that matches this cadence. Next you increase the tempo by 5-10%. Research has shown that patients who train in this manner make quick gains.
I think what he was suggesting mental playing was, is just a person thinking about playing a certain instrument, note to note. He mentions this in his book and claims it actually improves your playing/practicing. I highly recommend This book, it's a great read with some fascinating stories.
you know how you have a song stuck in your head or you can "hear" a song playing in your mind but it's not playing like on a radio or something? I think that's what he's talking about.
I´m a M.therapist, Music therapy it´s a process, where the pacient have a internal process too. You can´t put some music just to "heal" because Music it´s not Therapeutic!! some like to relax hearing rock and others classic music, you can´t generalize. An Nordoff & robb. It´s ONE OF THE MODELS CERTIFICATE BY The World Federation of Music Therapy...
@araleas 'music is not therapeutic'? I have always believed that music can be extremely therapeutic to people with a certain mental disorder, like for instance depression. I understand that you can't generalize, but that is not what Sachs is doing. This particular patient loves Chopin and responds to this music. In stead of healing, Sachs is contributing to the development of knowledge about Parkinson disease which can be productive for possible treatment or understanding the human brain.
In addition, an ipod does not have the capability to manipulate tempo to the clients' needs. Whereas live music can match the patient's gait, and then speed it up as needed to challenge the patient.
I suspect you have not experienced music therapy from a well-trained MT, or you would think differently. There are many more aspects to music therapy than just listening for entrainment (which CAN be very effective and beneficial). Do not disrespect a profession if you do not have all your facts straight and have a knowledgeable base. It's so much more than just "listening". Thanks.
I have to disagree guyincognito, with you and Mr. Sacks. Oliver is speaking about rhythm being helpful for patients with Parkinson's. It is only helpful when that rhythm is at a tempo where the patient can keep up with it. If the song is too fast they may not be able to match their gait tot he music, if it is too slow, where is the challenge? Therefore live music would be incredibly more effective than an ipod where song tempo cannot be manipulated.
@noey543 how do you know what tempo a patient can keep up with? don't we all, including patients, experience and love music with different tempo's and rhythm's? why wouldn't an ipod do the same trick? he just explained that the patient in question was very fond of a certain piece by Chopin, so why couldn't he just let her listen to it with an ipod if he wanted to get a reaction?
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
"you don't have to have a music therapist....if you have a little iPod, that will do."....exactly my point.....there is no need for music therapy to be a "profession".
THe power of music is amazing. I can't believe how much it can change one person. I know when I joined band my world changed immediately. I was an out of control child. Then I found band in the 6th grade and my whole world just calmed. My mood can be changed after my music it's just a really good thing to have in your life.
There is a way to help people with Parkinson. I ask everyone who watches this video to also check out the website liquid-deprenyl . com. The FDA is helping drug companies at patient experience!!!
What's this!!?? Be serious, it's not a jocke for the patients. U sales this liquid? So make a good explanation about this subject. There is to pain yet, don't add more.
The Nordoff-Robbins model is only one way of working. Simple listening is no less viable than improvisation if it gets results. Is it still not therapy through music if someone is helped by it?
Hello Dr. Sacks! I hope you are enjoying my cd "Taking a Dive (Heart First)" which I gave you at the PDF Gala in New York in May. Would love to hear from you.
I was lucky enough to meet him at Beth Abraham and their Institute for Music and Neurologic Function where he signed this book presened this book to us.
Interesting observation. I'm a music therapist...I guess they don't really need my job since there are IPODS. What the heck am I doing? Should have went to school for Cosmetology...I'd probably be making more money! Ha!!! HA!!!!
Oliver Sacks, is this really you? The person from the film The Awakenings? Or is this someon showing your video's?
I have a winner with P.D. and have shown some amazing results. Need deperately to repeat these results and need to talk to you about my discovery. Check out my video about Inclined Bed Therapy. A free drug free non-invasive method that works with P.D.
Well, thi is interesting to me because I am a professional musician, and I have Parkinson's. What I found helpful, both artistically and to get my brain thinking "motion" was the Johann Strauss waltzes.
alanjknig 3 months ago
@ LKJBFG I was not referring to internal rhythm but rather gait, as that was the impetus for the ipod conversation. To find a person's gait "tempo" you find the patient's cadence, which is the number of steps per minute. Then you play live music that matches this cadence. Next you increase the tempo by 5-10%. Research has shown that patients who train in this manner make quick gains.
noey543 8 months ago
@noey543 excellent
alanjknig 3 months ago
Very impressive channel
hensleyscott 8 months ago
is he the author of the book "The man who mistook his wife for a hat"?
flyingcat99 9 months ago
@flyingcat99 yes!
meccatotherescue 8 months ago
i love this book. its a great source for my research paper on the benefits music education :)
museman91 9 months ago
I think what he was suggesting mental playing was, is just a person thinking about playing a certain instrument, note to note. He mentions this in his book and claims it actually improves your playing/practicing. I highly recommend This book, it's a great read with some fascinating stories.
00aeonapocalypse 2 years ago
"mental playing"? I don't understand this. It sounds fascinating but I don't get how it works.
XmusicmeisterX 2 years ago
you know how you have a song stuck in your head or you can "hear" a song playing in your mind but it's not playing like on a radio or something? I think that's what he's talking about.
RochelleTrinity 2 years ago
oh. It sounded like they meant something more complicated. I was probably reading too deep into it. lol
XmusicmeisterX 2 years ago
I´m a M.therapist, Music therapy it´s a process, where the pacient have a internal process too. You can´t put some music just to "heal" because Music it´s not Therapeutic!! some like to relax hearing rock and others classic music, you can´t generalize. An Nordoff & robb. It´s ONE OF THE MODELS CERTIFICATE BY The World Federation of Music Therapy...
araleas 2 years ago
@araleas 'music is not therapeutic'? I have always believed that music can be extremely therapeutic to people with a certain mental disorder, like for instance depression. I understand that you can't generalize, but that is not what Sachs is doing. This particular patient loves Chopin and responds to this music. In stead of healing, Sachs is contributing to the development of knowledge about Parkinson disease which can be productive for possible treatment or understanding the human brain.
LKJBFG 8 months ago
In addition, an ipod does not have the capability to manipulate tempo to the clients' needs. Whereas live music can match the patient's gait, and then speed it up as needed to challenge the patient.
noey543 2 years ago
I suspect you have not experienced music therapy from a well-trained MT, or you would think differently. There are many more aspects to music therapy than just listening for entrainment (which CAN be very effective and beneficial). Do not disrespect a profession if you do not have all your facts straight and have a knowledgeable base. It's so much more than just "listening". Thanks.
noey543 2 years ago 16
I have to disagree guyincognito, with you and Mr. Sacks. Oliver is speaking about rhythm being helpful for patients with Parkinson's. It is only helpful when that rhythm is at a tempo where the patient can keep up with it. If the song is too fast they may not be able to match their gait tot he music, if it is too slow, where is the challenge? Therefore live music would be incredibly more effective than an ipod where song tempo cannot be manipulated.
noey543 2 years ago 6
@noey543 how do you know what tempo a patient can keep up with? don't we all, including patients, experience and love music with different tempo's and rhythm's? why wouldn't an ipod do the same trick? he just explained that the patient in question was very fond of a certain piece by Chopin, so why couldn't he just let her listen to it with an ipod if he wanted to get a reaction?
LKJBFG 8 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"you don't have to have a music therapist....if you have a little iPod, that will do."....exactly my point.....there is no need for music therapy to be a "profession".
guyincognito84 2 years ago
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bpyjktgiuk 2 years ago
THe power of music is amazing. I can't believe how much it can change one person. I know when I joined band my world changed immediately. I was an out of control child. Then I found band in the 6th grade and my whole world just calmed. My mood can be changed after my music it's just a really good thing to have in your life.
Koyko200 2 years ago
Thanks. Someone who knows a translation from the Sack's book to spanish?
GRUPARFA 3 years ago
There is a way to help people with Parkinson. I ask everyone who watches this video to also check out the website liquid-deprenyl . com. The FDA is helping drug companies at patient experience!!!
twn5858 3 years ago
What's this!!?? Be serious, it's not a jocke for the patients. U sales this liquid? So make a good explanation about this subject. There is to pain yet, don't add more.
GRUPARFA 3 years ago
Did you look at the web site???
twn5858 3 years ago
Make an good explanation or fck off. Did u understand?
GRUPARFA 3 years ago
"the FDA...helping drug companies at patient experience" (expense?!?!) should not be news to anyone at this point.
seriously?
brianbauer78 2 years ago
this is not Oliver Sacks account people!!! his photo isn't even the profile picture ahaha
ibanezdude9659 3 years ago
ask to Nordoff & Robbins if what u do is REALLY music therapy...
Music therapy needs a music therapist, without him there´s no healing. ´CAUSE IS A THERAPY NO A MOMENT WITH MUSIC.. THAT´S THE DIFFERENCE.
THANX
araleas 3 years ago
The Nordoff-Robbins model is only one way of working. Simple listening is no less viable than improvisation if it gets results. Is it still not therapy through music if someone is helped by it?
GoldfishGirlIOM 2 years ago
mportant and true !!
JeanDagba 3 years ago
Hello Dr. Sacks! I hope you are enjoying my cd "Taking a Dive (Heart First)" which I gave you at the PDF Gala in New York in May. Would love to hear from you.
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myousiknlaw 3 years ago
neat
Energyium 3 years ago
I was lucky enough to meet him at Beth Abraham and their Institute for Music and Neurologic Function where he signed this book presened this book to us.
Woah. He is amazing!
kristenvogt24 4 years ago
Interesting observation. I'm a music therapist...I guess they don't really need my job since there are IPODS. What the heck am I doing? Should have went to school for Cosmetology...I'd probably be making more money! Ha!!! HA!!!!
Notegal 4 years ago
Wow! The liberator power of music on Parkinson is very similar to effect that it has on stuttering.
Goldbach 4 years ago
Oliver Sacks, is this really you? The person from the film The Awakenings? Or is this someon showing your video's?
I have a winner with P.D. and have shown some amazing results. Need deperately to repeat these results and need to talk to you about my discovery. Check out my video about Inclined Bed Therapy. A free drug free non-invasive method that works with P.D.
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AndrewKFletcher 4 years ago