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  • I don't understand why folks just don't get it. When you're young and saved, what are your options of good, clean fun? It's hard to find good, clean fun nowadays. I think Christian Clubbing is a good opportunity for young folk. Nothing negative or inappropriate comes out of it. So what's the big deal? Because it looks like the "World"? That's not a good enough argument. It doesn't look like the World. The World wouldn't go to a Christian Club...so you're point is?

  • The Idea of having a place where only Gospel music is played and people are dancing to it seems like an excellent Idea... The problem comes in with what people associate the word club with. It's just like Hip-Hop: people associate Hip-Hop music as wrong because people started it off with sinful lyrics. How we are so easy to forget out Gospel music came about. It was derived from Blues and Jazz music. What made it Holy was the Word of God put into it. That's when we started calling it Gospelmusic

  • The word of God tells us to not let our 'good' be evil spoken of. So if we are to not be conformed the world (LOOK like them), then we need not to let the world think we're like them.

  • WHY WORRY WHAT SOMEONE ELSE THINKS WE SHALL BE JUDGED IN THE END

    

  • Wow! My dad was just ministering to me about this same topic! I totally agree with you! What's for you may not be for me and visa versa.  Dance girl!

  • i would love a club if it played christian rap

  • She sounds like Satan himself... "Oh you will die if you eat of the fruit..." Hey I'm going to pray that you are able to separate yourself from the world, but please stop trying to deceive people... well I guess the Bible does promise us that many will be deceived! I'll pray for you.

  • Im just having a problem with the name. How can there be a 'Christian club?? Those two words dont even belong together. If there's a christian club then lets get into christian porn, christian sigarets,...

  • @black1992orly Christians can have a club but only if they played christian rap

  • I understand some Christians are weaker in certain areas than other Christians...If I went to a club...I wouldn't end up getting drunk and fornicating...but that's just because I haven't ever struggled with those sins (it varies per person)...I'd probably get stuck taking all of my drunk friends home though lol

  • People get so caught up on what everyone else is doing that they forget about thier personal relationship with god and how hes trying to move in their lives god is not religious or man made.We are here to do gods work so that requires getting your hands dirty you can be where you are and not who you are. Stop spreading fear and set yourselves apart jesus doesnt save those who are already righteous.

  • You give the overall impression that christians do not have fun. The most satisfying moments of my life have been talking to a lost person about Jesus. The angels rejoice when a person comes to know Him. They don't rejoice and praise when they see you acting like the world and dancing to hip hop music that has been influenced by Satan himself. When the israelites were liberated from Egypt, they quickly forgot their Lord. They made a golden calf & called it Yahweh. You have done the same.

  • i dont care how you view this what im about to say you cant judge me,we are CHRISTIAN WE FOLLOW CHRIST.DONT LET YOUR GOODNESS BE EVIL SPOKEN OF.THE WORLD DID CREATED CLUBBING.

  • @savedhpd I totally agree, I don't know why people take things from the world, put 'Holy' or 'Christian' in front of it, and then try to say it's of GOD. and this not just coming from a member of a church but from the pastor, what?!

  • @Sevyn75 thank you

  • Part of what she is saying is true... God is not upposed to us having fun... And theres is cultural bias, but nonetheless you do need to be careful, and like Paul observes if what you do cause someone else to fall, you should not do it....

    Christians do alot of stuff in ignorance. We need to be careful.

    Like the Bible says, in ALL your ways and whatever you do, acknowledge the Lord.

  • hi please look up the origins of the club

  • @TheNin13 thank you

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  • Worship comes from the Heart! Worship is not confined in walls! The issue is not the club, its what happens in the club. The Upper Room is a place of Fellowship!!!

    Can I get an amen? But I will say secuar Hip Hop Can CORRUPT the Soul (not christian hip hop) 2COR. 10:5 You cant cast down something you exalt! Keep Blessing the Kingdom... forget haters and never walk out of the will of God! WALK IN THE SPIRIT!!

  • You go clubing at church! thats our club. This is commen sense! REPENT Means turn completely away.

  • You go clubing at church! thats our club. This is commen sense! REPENT Means turn completely away.

  • Dr. Tye I appreciate you because you stick with the Word of God. As some of the other commenters has said we can not be hot and cold but I believe Dr. Tye was talking about have a christian get together we can dance and praise the Lord. God is the originator of music. The bible says in psams 150 Let everything that have breath praise the Lord. There is another scripture that say dance before the Lord. We can have fun being christians and there are christian clubs. Lets get rid of religion.

  • When I first heard the book "saved, single, and having sex" I just had to read it....and that was a few years ago. Today, I know that there is no such thing as being 'saved and having sex". When you are truly saved, God takes the "taste" of sin from your mouth. The things I used to do, I don't do anymore, I don't even have a desire to do those things. If you are still having sex outside of wedlock, then what exactly have you been saved from??? Go back to the aler and let God SAVE you.

  • If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, then most likely its a duck. One of the devil's biggest tools is deception, mixing truth with error! Just like Sunday worship! Everything is based on motives! Why do you want to go to the club? You spoke about David but what is it that caused him to dance like He did, it was based on the condition of his heart, his motives!

  • "This girl does not know the Lord," whatsoever!! She sounds very confused and

    distorted....I know satan has a field day with her...

  • Yes we are to enjoy ourselves in Christ cause living for the Lord is not a boring experience- but to say i'm gonna hit the "christian" club tonight is a fine line... i had my days of going to the club & i just can't see going back into that environment... People often say King David danced w/ all his might but why was he dancing? he was celebrating cause the ark of the Lord had finally returned to it's rightful place... he just wasn't shaking his behind for the fun of it!

  • @IntenseGlory I guess the thing is, if its a "christian party" or a Holy Ghost party? Is the Spirit of the Lord welcomed? What activities take place at these parties? I don't believe God wants you to be bored but if you can't find the times that we're living in alone exciting, the return of our Lord Jesus Christ, then what can be more exciting than that?

  • Wow! 1Timothy 3 is a good read when it comes to pleasure in the last days.

    Our main concern should be to please God! What about God's pleasure.

    Saints the king of kings is coming back. We must stay focus on being ready and repenting. Read Matthew 24:36-39. God is trully giving us time to repent, and yes, she does act like Juanita Bynum and Dr. Ruth. WE must be like Jesus!

  • I guess we are modern christians. But there is a line to be drawn. But then again, fun is NOT of sin. We can laugh and do other things, dress etc. In other words I agree with you.

  • im convinced that u sincerely congregate (party) in a chrisitian atmosphere, not necessarily condusive to evangelism, but in a way that is productive to christians on down-time. HOW dare someone manipulate your words in the soundbites in order to discredit what you're doing. i almost bought in to it, thinking, Dr. Ty must be too good to be true....she speaks to my condition by helping me overcome flesh...but instead she's saying something else. I commend you on doing what u do!!!

  • Everyone has a very good argument but i understand where the "CLUB" concept comes from. Jesus the messiah came from Nazareth a place of filth yet he performed many miracles Jesus died on the cross so we may let go of Sin meaning anything thats separating us from him if the "CLUB" is in a worship setting its OK as long as there is no sexual immorality and it doesn't have to be free Christian artist make money for their music not only for their churches but also for their house hold needs.

  • I don't think people listened to the whole thing. This "Club" Plays Christian music, and has christian comedy nights. it's a place that gives christians an opportunity to fellowship and have a good time in a CLEAN manner. The crazy thing is that some of you believe that The devil creates stuff! He is the one that manipulates what GOD created. remember Genesis? Stop criticizing and get the plank out of your own eye first. Trust that God is going to continue to lead her and guide her and do ou

  • stfu biatch! god hates you!

  • Ma'am please have a seat!

  • Our problem is that we don't love God. If we did, we would hate sin and worldiness. We have compromised God's standard of holiness. David danced in praise and worship to Almighty God, and I'm sure it was an anointed dance. He wasn't clubbing or just dancing to some music in a club. Why is it so hard to be the peculiar, different people God wants us to be? Because we don't see love for the world as SIN. Let's meditate on 1 John 2:15 and James 4:4 & long for HOLINESS as opposed to WORLDLINESS!!

  • Man this women is so worldly!

    The Club was created by the World

    Not the church.

  • who created clubbing then, the church?If u have experienced any kind anointing from God u wouldn't desire such things.This is a very pointless video

  • Ok well if your once again taking hiphop somthing from the world and trying to give somthing used to God you cant do that. If the hiphop culture was reedeemed then the hiphoppers would not still be doing what there doing rapping about what they are been rapping about. I can't wait to that day where christians realize that people don't save people by acting like them but by seperating

  • Hip hop is a religion.. Hip hop has its own bible that KRS one is leading. SO yea hip hop is wrong but I wont discredit God. One of the things God allots to us is talent. God can use anything to turn to into his glory. So if your talent be lyrical, but is only for the Lord then what's wrong with it?

    We are not Bound

  • I don't think being lyrical is wrong,but I know that taking the hip hop sub culture and there ways such as the way they look dress and act then we have a problem. If God can use anything to turn into his glory than we can't saying nothing about that pimping pastor, or that hoochie for christ. Because when you allow one thing too slide all the wall have too come down period. Now the bible says do not be yoked with umbelievers so if the holy hiphop rappers where for God then why are they

  • Hooking up with the founding fathers of hiphop the church is embrassing the sub culture and religion of hiphop because they wont stand up against it. So let me put holy lyrics and that will make it ok for it too come in the church. What about holy goth, goth is the celebration of the dead just like hiphop celebrating dead things (things of the flesh) so my question is can we have holy goth since we have holy hiphop?

  • If all you are basing this off is a beat than thats not right. Nobody says to dress or act the part, but not everyone has the same style of praise. Im sure if you go to different countries there praise sounds different from the states..Not everything has to sound like a hymn. Im not saying to conform, Who am I or who are you to say how someone would praise the Lord. If you are exalting him and not You, then what's the problem?

  • Psa 115:17 The dead do not praise the LORD, Nor any who go down into silence.

    1Cr 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one's praise will come from God.

    Im not knocking you, what you see as unclean is unclean to you...Thats your conviction. Everything is not for everybody, Praise God that he does not limit himself to a handful of people.

  • Rom 14:14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

    1Cor 9:1-23 is good to be reminded of. Not to quote it all but will point vrs 19: For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

  • Then why in return for a gift like jesus are lord and savior would you give him somthing used for his enemys gain. As if there was no other way to make a social gathering for christians that has not been used. We took hiphop and now they just came out with an hiphop bible. The world mocks God when we don't seperate from worldly things call it what you want but I felt a burden on my heart too speak about this!

  • I go to the club and snatch christian on it and call it a social gathering. Well my thing is the bowling alley can be a social gathering a restraunt can be a social gathering hey event the church cna be a social gathering. So why take something that the devil use for his glory and somthing he created to give him the glory. (somthing that has already been used by the enemy) to say this is for the glory of God.Would your family give you worn clothing for a birthday gift or a broke car.

  • @ikeashiasanders29 I wonder if God said to us "Oh you've already been used by the enemy, no use saving you"? God can take ANYTHING and make it new. What's not separate about a Christian Club and a Worldly Club?? Would u rather us use the world Christian Gathering instead?!?! Stop condemning your brothers and sisters for something that you may not be strong enough in the faith to participate in.

  • @CaraBear12 YES God SAVED me from things that I don't do anymore I don't try to bring an alternative to somthing that I was never suppose to be doing anyways such as a night club. Now YES God can take anyone and make it new but if its somthing new then its no longer what it used to be. Meaning>>>>

  • @CaraBear12 It no longer carry the same name or design that it once carryed it don't take the traits from the original source put a twist to it and called it MADE NEW a twist dont mean made new. A twist to something is like buying a car and repainting it or buying another house but redesigning certain parts about it. But it is not made new its just a twist to it. When you really come toCHRIST theres no twist your a new creation. If you were a gangsta your not a holy gangsta but a christian.>>>

  • ok you said that you would not pull out a big mack or KFC in front of someone who's fasting because it may tempt them to eat. Well same thing with the club if you make that apart of your life quota when people who are struggling with that see you who are trying to change from that whole lifestyle atmosphere its like you can pull them back too it and slap the word chistian on it and call it a day.Your subconscious mind set is that, I want some part of me to still live. So what I will do is

  • im srry..but to the people who is talking about hiphop, have you ever heard artists like lecrae, flame, trip lee, da truth, you guys are mistaken. Im newly saved, and one thing ive noticed is just how judgemental people can be. Talking about her makeup? Come on now! What is wrong with holy hiphop, or a "Christian Club". Please don't be "overly righteous". We can have good clean wholesome fun in the body of Christ!

  • Each persons convections are different from anothers.

  • though each persons convictions may be different from others if I sin and don't have my conviction right off and another sins and have his conviction sooner than I do. That do not justify me sinning or that other person sinning.

  • You cannot listen to Hip Hop music and say you're serving God because everything about Hip Hop Music is against God, it's antichirist! You're so concerned about doing what you use to do in a different way, when we are to get rid of those world ways we use to have, we are to let the Lord take desires away from us and make us more like Him!And sin is sin, so if something is a sin for me it is a sin for everyone, we don't choose what sin is, it's just what it is sin. Be NOT conformed to this world!

  • The World DID create clubbing!!! What do they say, you want your cake and you want to eat it too!

  • A whole lot of people don't knw what sin is. 1John 3:4 say Whosoever committeth a sin transgresseth the law:for sin is the transgression of the law. What law the 10 commandment,dietary law and dress code, and how we treat one another,now dance and praise of the lord is alright. Hip-hop clubbing,and some gospel music is totally unacceptable. Why would a person sit in vomit,we supose to be new creatures in Christ specially after baptisim. Hip-hop is unacceptable sorry miss can't do it!!

  • Most of these comments are a MESS! Am I the ONLY one that realizes that the club she's referring to is a building (club) where Christians can gather and dance to CHRISTIAN/GODLY music?

    Are you saying that the only dancing we're allowed to do is on Sunday morning? And any other type/ time is forbidden? I'm pretty sure the dancing in this atmosphere is NOT the grinding you find elsewhere. Next you'll be saying that we shouldn't go to gospel concerts because they mirror the secular ones.

  • we lets just say the christian concerts, because the truth is if your going to be sharing the gospel it should be free the bible says freely give freely receive so if I got to go to a concert to receive the gospel thats biblically incorrect, there should be no charge but Now you can go to an christian artist concert which is entertainment and yes a social gathering (can be) but to actually take secular things that the devil use for christians to try to use it seems desperate

  • not one time can anyone tell me that God charged any money for the gospel in the bible! it should be free if not and I have to go all the way to someones concert to receive the gospel I might as well go somewhere free up the street to a church for that! So body of christ we have to know the difference between entertainment and the gospel not saying with music you cant get into Gods prescence but don't charge then if its about that! Because God did not charge us?

  • @Cry6785baby I totally agree....these people are just focused on the word club and they're one view of it. I'm sure most of us here who are saved and in the faith, were brought out of the worldly club scene. I know I was and there is NOOOOOO way I would put myself in the position to go back. But joining in fellowship with believers is not a problem.

  • She has on too much make up!!!

  • And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, [do] all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. (Col 3:17)

    He that regardeth the day, regardeth [it] unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard [it]. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. (Rom 14:6)

  • If the club glorifies god, meaning the music and the dancing, go. If it doesn't don't.

  • WOW?

  • In Romans 12:2 says "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Christian clubbing is still a form of worldiness. You can't slap Jesus on a club. It came from the devil. Where suppose to be set apart from worldy ways. Christian parties are ok but CLUB? LOL! You can't reinvent the wheel of what God says in His word. You can't make worldy things HOLY christians! Come on now!

  • Peace all! This is a very interesting topic being that there are many so called Christians that still do all types of activities that the bible raises some sort of question on. I'm curious to know if this club that you speak off plays all of the worldly music we hear today with the sex,drugs,violence? Is this the music you dance to? If you answer yes. Then this creates a problem according to scripture.Nothing wrong with living and having fun.What is being used to create the fun is the question

  • Carnal and spiritual just dont mix- no matter how you put it. I am 29 and have been in the church all of my life and have been taught the undoctored Word of God. There is no possible way that you can "go clubbing" listen to songs that are in the world, songs mentioning liquor, drugs, violence, fornication, and dancing in a suggestive mannor and say its okay for Christians to do that.

  • @BrooklynBiznessGirl She is not saying that there will be worldly MUSIC!!! Goodness!! But we have the liberty in Christ Jesus to party for the Lord where there's edifying music and fellowship among brothers and sisters in Christ. You act like she's saying it's okay to go and party with carnal people and listen to secular music?!?!? Hip Hop is a genre...she's talking about Christian Hip Hop that they would be listening to.

  • How about you just tell the truth, just say I want to dance, I love to dance. Why twist and tweek the scriptures to justify what you are doing. David was not in a club dancing he was dancing before the Lord with all of his heart. He wasn't focused on himself and how he felt with the beat of the music he was worshipping God.

  • beware of false teachings!!!!

  • please dont use the word of God to pacify a worldy desire..no you wont go to hell for listening to hip hop, BUT we want to glorify God with what we listen to...just cause some christains own a club doesnt make it a christian club. we are not supposed to model the world, but influence the world to model christ..this leads alot of believers astray.

  • WHAT????!!!!????? Lady!...lmbo. I think u R taking some...well ALOT of things out of context. Even the world has enough since to know that if you want 2 truly QUIT! something u leave alone all things that can possibly trigger that habit. And if its not a prob for you, why is it that u felt the need 2 bring it back in2 ur Christian walk after u so-called quit. And Y wud a Christian club have a REMOTELY similar atmosphere as a wordly one. Is so then its not of God...I can't evn continue...wow...

  • I love Ty but she missed me on this one...the bible says we are in this world but not of this world..and also to come out from among them and be "separate" I don't see anything wrong w/ having fun as a Christian and you're single...but to mirror the world is not going to bring the world to salvation....if they see us "so called" Christians in the club dancing to their music...they are going to wonder "WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE"

  • So..as long as the atmosphere is prepared and sanctified for the Lord and the music and activities are censored to HIS comfort, well...GO FOR IT! The issue is NOT whether or not the word "club" is in the title, the issue is whether or not Jesus is Lord of it all. Potato/patata, let Jesus be Lord of all and let's banish legalism. Leading a sinless life for Christ in ALL we do, even we get together at a "Christian Club" or what not.

  • I didn't know there was a 'christain' club. When I here that, it sounds like, "Oh, lets put the word christain in front of it and it'll be alright." Thats what I think of. I wouldn't do what you're doing, but to each it's own.

  • this is stupid, what you failed to see is that the world DID CREATE CLUBBIN', GOD SURE DIDN'T CREATE IT!!

    you are just using excuses to go to a club. you are not supposed to copy what the world is doing and that's going to the club,going to the club is from the devil.

    you are supposed to seperate yourself from the world and what they do if you are a christian,u can't be a christian and do what the world does, cause God don't like it and his word speaks against it!!!!

  • This sounds like a cop out to me. Why are we trying to justify their behaviour with these strawman excuses and arguements? Not to mention that the Message and other new age Bibles are mere interpretations of the true Bible texts. They add and subtract from Holy Writ.

    The David dancing verses don't excuse or cloak your behavior at all. What David did, was far different than today's culture's dancing. Yeah he broke a sweat but that don't mean he was being lascivious. Just sayin, watch your self!

  • She's twisting the Word of G-d to justify her ungodly actions. Whoooo lady, please be careful how you use the Bible.

  • Is she serious?Alot of people gonna lift their eyes up in HELL!

  • Is it me, or does she talk like Juanita Bynum?

  • Exactly...

    both of them are perverted.

  • I am very interested in knowing what goes on in these Christian club... why call it a club at all? I'm reserving judgment until I find out more, but we must do all things to the glory of God.

  • Well....I'm not reserving judgment. Why do "Christians" feel the need to be a part of something associated with the world? Clubs or clubbing is associated and affiliated with the world's system. It's filth...and they want people to believe that it is holy and of God. Please! GIVE ME A BREAK! When will the foolishness stop.

  • Yeah so-called "christians" become irritated and develop pet peeves for Christians who want to live holy when because they don't wanna die to self and the holy saint (which is the only way a true saint can be) lifestyle shines light upon the so-called "christian" who don't wanna die to self, but much rather prefer to live like the world (I've seen your other carnal videos), but JESUS said, that he will build his church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it- U will not prosper, Tye...

  • What a carnal mess. No Ty, people sin because they have a fallen nature they must be redeemed from. It is NOT because they are not allowed to have fun or sin freely. I tell U, the enemy has bewitched sooo many people into thinking that holiness is boredom. Why would you even want to identify with something that is patterned after a practice in the world that facilitates a breeding ground for committing iniquity anyway? People who refuse to die to self and truly follow Christ

  • The appeal of clubbing via worldly or christian": Its all about self-glorification.Typically when a person is fixated on going to the club, all they can think about is blowing up the spot with their presentation and covetousness. The FUN in serving Christ SHOULD predominately rests in rejoicing with other Christians in the reality that U have been born again and delivered from the very thing U R indulging in here and even encouraging others to do.Woe to U for U are a hindrance to the saint.

  • Thank you EnChristos. Finally, someone who can see through this filth. Why in the world would a disciple of Christ be associated with such junk? It's beneath a true believer's character. And this Ty Adams' character is none other than a self promoter.....just check out her youtube website. The church is dying and we have folks who are interested in their own agenda....not God's agenda. It is a sign of a damnable world, who chooses to live in sin. What a shame!

  • true, true

  • @EnChristosEime4life holiness is freedom men straight joy ..........

  • @ikeashiasanders29 :your message is cryptic, lol. Please speak plainly if you are attempting to get a message across to me. If not, then your comment is nothing more than a snide senseless remark. Which is it? If it is the former, please clarify your point?

    Blessings,

    ECE4Life

  • That is absolutely wrong. We are responsible for non believers. There is no in between heaven or hell to chill at when its all said and done.We have to lift up a standard above what we feel at the moment. If you miss the world then go back there and if you want to stand for the most Holy God walk it right. But dont lead folks into a position where they can backslide before the Lord can Save em' Good. Come on Now ! Lets keep it real. Temptation is already hard enough Even when your save.

  • When King David gave praise to God it was solely to God.

    When hip hop artist perform it is to them selves that their praise is directed or to their possession or to their status or to a man or a woman. Which according to the absolute word of God is Idolatry. That's what makes going to a "Christian Club" wrong. The songs that are played secular hip hop glorifies lust, jealousy, hate, adultery, revenge, pornography... Those are the same sins that put Christ on the cross. You should be witnessin

  • She's not talking about that type of club!

  • Thats whats up

  • wisdom

  • WoW....I absolutely loooved that message Ty,,,you were on point for sho! LOL

  • No matter how you try to justify it, it just wrong. God is a holy God and he is to be reverenced and not mocked. The word says "wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." (2 Cor. 6:17) We have a personal responsibility not to confuse unbelievers/the world. When you accept Jesus as your Savior you have to let go of some things. You can have a good time and have fun without being in a club like atmosphere.

  • actually if we R talking about atmosphere we need to take back the intensity from the club It belongs 2 God for his worship.People in clubs dancing sweating using language that helps set their atmosphere.Saints R str8 scared to lose it in Gods presence together.This does not belong to the world!!!I dont listen to HIP HOP R&B or any other type of music that doesnt Glorify God.Let Go Of all the music that is made in a spirit of rebellion.Let Go of all events and actions prompted by unholy motive.

  • So does Joshua 24:15 say "as for me and my house, we will party"? No it does not. Please, at least have some respect for the Word.

  • Our walk is not an opinion walk. FUN ISN'T WRONG,but don't give in to the flesh (Rom 13:14 & Gal 5:24). I Cor 6:12 says "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient:all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any." One thing can lead to another. BE CAREFUL! Measure your fun according to the Word. IF the club promotes things NOT of Christ, then you are in fellowship with darkness. Sister your responsibility to others can be found in Rom 14:13-23.

  • 2:50 - "...as if the world created clubbing..."

    Well, the 'world' DID create the "clubbing". Regularly spending the evening hours carousing in dens of recreation and pleasure is a cultural phenomenon that most certainly did not orginate in the church.

    I'm curious as to who this person is, and where she got her doctorate.

  • "Clubbing" in America started with our slave ancestors. After all work was done for the week on Saturday, slaves were allowed to meet at a specific plantation. Here they did all manner of dances and some plantation owners would watch and emulate. As far as David dancing, you don't have to go far to see how he did it. It's here on Youtube. He danced for different reasons and....he kept his clothes on.

  • 52pug, what you have said here is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in a long time. Slave ancestors invented "clubbing"? That is not only factually incorrect, but it is nothing short of an INSULT to our ancestors.

    "Clubbing" is a purely modern, 20th century phenomenon, having nothing to do with slavery or David dancing (ridiculous!). This term has a distinct history and meaning that you and this so-called "Dr" are attempting to corrupt and misuse for your own purposes.

  • I was not trying to INSULT our ancestry. Please enlighten me on "clubbing". Seems as if I have a different definition for clubbing.

  • 52pug, what other definition for "clubbing" is there?

  • I thought clubbing meant going to the club. That's why I made the comment about our ancestors. In no way was I trying to insult anyone from the past. My reply to you was in agreement that the world did create clubbing. Also, you said this term has a distinct history and meaning. If my meaning is not the same, please correct me.

  • The letter writer was right.

  • I just want to know are you talking about Secular hip hop music?

  • Go head sista, i wish i had one were i live. I get so bored. I want to party to, and laugh and have fun. Im only 22. Yet i have given everthing up that is conducive to sinful living. Yet i go to a church were me and only 1 other do in my church dare to live a holy lifestyle in this area. And its small. Yet i do belive God is going to do something magnificent. I dont think i'll be here for long. I am moving forward into my destiny.

  • You can enjoy live Sis., you don't have to be a Nun! Just because you don't go to the "worldly" club, you can hang with friends and have fun.

  • God bless you Dr. Ty well put. I agree whole heartedly that we as christians limit ourselves because we feel as though now you are saved the fun must stop. If dance is a problem for you then please do not indulge but as for me and my house we are going to dance unto the Lord until his return!! Be Blessed my sister in Christ

  • WORK IT OUT GIRLY IM LOVING IT....

  • This really helped , because there are times in my faith where I feel that I am limited. Because I believe that even that thought of a club was not of God. However it depends on the type of club and the things that are in the club.

  • Well spoken! So when is the next party?

  • I love how you brought David and what he did with praise. I feel it's totally contextual! I got a chance see some praise from the Congo, and let me tell you, my americanized eyes were offended, it was so out of the box for me. However, it was normal for that culture. "The Upper Room" love it! We need on in California...

  • Amen Sister Ty, I agree 100%. Christians should have fun, serving God is EXCITING! All within the realm of holiness of course, but according to the Word God desires that we ENJOY LIFE in the land that He has given unto us. God bless. :-)

  • I think their is no wrong or right to the question. I was talking to a friend last night who said that they did not enjoy the Gospel Celebration on BET last night, because he the people were not praising God and that God was not present in it. Why is it that we Christians spend so much time on trying to determine other's level of committment to God? I ak him how can you honestly sit here and determine who is and is not praising God? Concentrate on wjhat you need to grow and stop judging.

  • Um Interesting!!!

  • THANK YOU!!!!

  • PREACH WOMAN OF GOD!!! I love your ministry....I cant wait till a Christian Club comes my way because I'm all over it! It is so sad that some believers feel being drab and boring means they are holy. PUHLEEEZE! Where the spirit of Lord is there is LIBERTY! We should be free to give our God praise in all ways because he is GREAT and WORTHY!

  • i know dats ritee !!

  • so the spirit of the Lord is in a place where sexual promiscuity and drunkeness dominate? We are called to stop conforming to the world and we are to renew our minds. I guess we are free to give God praise by dancing in the clubs while we're drunk and dancing to songs with lyrics that say "I wanna F*** you (akon)" or how the rapper shot some dude 9 times. As proverbs says bad company corrupts good character.

  • She wasn't speaking on going to the club that plays Akon. She is speaking on a place where there's music, food, and people. Eating at restaurants, sitting at home by ourselves, or being at church 24/7 doesn't mean you live holy. And going to a place with others believers are to listen to music and dance will not send you to hell. Dude let's be real. Jesus wasn't sitting around forlorn all day, he had fun. He was at a wedding and turned water into wine! God created music and fun.

  • 'The Upper Room' has NONE of the things you listed in your comment (no sex, no promiscuity, no drunkenness, no Akon, no lyrics that go against God's Word, no CONFORMING).

    I suggest you watch her video again,.... with you ears on this time. Be blessed!

  • SHE was speaking about a Christian Club. not a Akron type club. Pleassssssssssssssssssssssssss­sse go back and watch the video. OMGoodness.

  • great!!!! simply great....!! cant wait to hear another

    video from you

    ...you are just amazing=]

    and as for me and my house

    we will bw right there next to you parting and getting our praise on for the one and only jesus crist

  • what kind of music do they play? christian hip hop or regular hip hop???

  • I LOVE THIS MESSAGE!

  • Amen sis stomp on the devil's head. 2 Corinthains 3:17 Now the LORD is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Don't put God into a box He is too big for that.

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