Pastor Tony Smith: Lost Books??? Apocrypha EXPOSED - Scripture Speaks

[bduhe219]

you also must understand, people at the time re-wrote parts of different books to condense them. they were also books written to have similar stories. that does not make the peson who re-wrote the books were trying to lie or deceive anyone. to try and make new readings of old readings does not make them wrong.

[bduhe219]

i hope people understand literary license and that the books of the bible and apocraphy are written by men of their time and are written through oral history and first hand accounts of the followers of god. the books chosen or not chosen were done so because their was doubt who wrote them, when they were written and if they were believed first hand or passed down oal histories that there was doubtful authorship. read and learn before you preach lies.

[dogramite]

It was predominately the majority pagan Romans that chopped the Apocrypha out & canonized as they chose accordingly to politics & their carnal hearts..Where & when have Romans(gentiles) ever received a covenant within their family tree to edit or ordain any Hebraic testimony? ..What gave them authority to do that which no true "Hebrew" disciple,apostle & even Christ.wouldn't do?.

Are Romans over Christ?

[jesussavior1364]

@dogramite aporcrypha is used to do black magic

[dogramite]

@jesussavior1364 I think you must have the Apocrypha confused with the talmud/cabala which most of these ancient pagan Rome based western religions today get there heathen practices & holidays...

To be honest majority these western Christian religions honor the fake Jews of Rev.2:9&3:9...What gives a pagan man & government any right of edification over anything dealing with the Most High?

[jesussavior1364]

@dogramite who is your most high again? The apocrapher and the book of enoch are used by some black magicians to envolk those fallen angels that are in those books. They can keep coming out with new book of the bible every year, that dosnt mean it is God words. Theirs some truth to some of them but its alot of deception in those books and also becarful what you call pagan because the God of the bible is jehova,yahweh, jesus and the holy spirit and in roman it say pay ties to the Cesar and God

[dogramite]

@jesussavior1364 The Father gave 1 name via scripture & the name is "I Am That I Am (Ehyah Asher Ehyah in Hebrew).The names JEHOVA / YHWH etc.are mere replacements via Jew-ish masorics during translations because they felt the true name was far too sacred.

When utilizing the concordance you find prefix YAH or JAH#3050 means"the lord ,the sacred name of " & the suffix "Hova"or"Havva"#1942 means "misfortune,calamity"

JEHOVA /YHWH =god of calamity & misfortune.

Please Study what you worship.

[jesussavior1364]

@dogramite the God i am? so now your saying the scholars that wrote the book didnt write the book right. In the bible it clearly says the begin to call god yah after recieved the laws. Nobody calls god ehyah accept in the tanoch an it only occured one time. So i guess you decided to call god another name thats not even in the bible. nowhere did the deciples call god ehya and please dont say the bible is corupt because the strong corcordance dosent agree with the inspired words of God

[dogramite]

@jesussavior1364 For starters,the scroll were never written via scholars but prophets moved via Ruach (Holy spirit)"2 Peter 1:21".

2nd point...There were no letter"J's"even in existence until the 1600's.Have you ever asked your preacher what the reason of translating the most important name in existence? If your name is Jack & you move to the Middle East,would you except them calling you Emau? How does any denounce concordance & possess 0 knowledge of the original language?

[GmsSouthLdn]

@jesussavior1364 lost lost lost

[gtepp031387]

@jesussavior1364 The Septuagint is the book the apostles used and quoted from nearly 300 times...go find out what was in this book....It is also the book the early Christians used and quoted from. Good enough for the apostles good enough for me.

[jesussavior1364]

@gtepp031387 i hear but that book could be corupt threw time

[GmsSouthLdn]

@jesussavior1364 You devil!!did not u say that nothing has been touched?Now u want to say its corrupt fool your corrupted,Aprocypha was what the catholics removed from the scriptures,Its a very reliable source it shows u when the arawak indians,and next tribes went into captivity under assyrians.

[gtepp031387]

@GmsSouthLdn "the catholics removed from the scriptures"....

Intresting please list the books Catholics removed from the scriptures....this ought to be good.

[GmsSouthLdn]

@gtepp031387 Are you dumb?Where in my comment did i quote that they removed the books the,aprocypha was removed from the king james bible fact.I can already tell your some simpleton.

[gtepp031387]

@GmsSouthLdn "Aprocypha was what the catholics removed from the scriptures"

These are your words....and if you are a Catholic then I rebuke you for using such hoorible words or hurt and hate....this is no way for a Catholic to behave.

[gtepp031387]

@gtepp031387 *horible not hoorible...

[GmsSouthLdn]

@gtepp031387 First of all im not catholic religion is a dogma and indoctrination by esau aswell as,jehova witness,7day adventist,

[jesussavior1364]

@gtepp031387 that guy is striving for attention lol

[gtepp031387]

@jesussavior1364 I am sry for the manner in which gmssouthldn speaks it is not befitting a Christian, and the Catholic church does not support this type of speaking...I apologize for that.

[GmsSouthLdn]

@gtepp031387 Did jesus rebuke people out of love did he call the pharisees vipers, and snakes for no reason?that word was offensive in the ancient days,Please stop acting effiminate u overlook everything christ says willingly you dont use the bible to justify anything.

[gtepp031387]

@GmsSouthLdn Secodly I am not bound by "sola scriptura" not do I believe in it....I hold fast to the tradition that where handed down wether by word of mouth OR epistle....I do not limit the working of the holy spirit to the bible. The bible is the cannon of the church(meaning it is the prime authority of the church) but it is not the only authority and saying that it is, is unscriptural....The church of the living GOD is the pillar and foundation of truth.

[GmsSouthLdn]

@gtepp031387 So u follow tradition!!What the tradition of christmas,birthday,easter,the pharisees followed traditon, the church is the people not the building!!

[gtepp031387]

@GmsSouthLdn 1)Yes i follow Tradition...cap T(that which is from GOD father, son, or spirit)....I also find nothing wrong with tradition(lower case t) as long as it does not contridict the Tradition of GOD, for instance I wear Jeans and a t-shirt this is tradition that is fine.

[gtepp031387]

@GmsSouthLdn 2) The church(the body of Chirst)is invisable this is acceptable, but there is also the church(a physical structure)that is visable as Jesus clearly shows when he says if one will not hear three believers(this would constitute the invisable church) bring him to the church(the visable structure).

[gtepp031387]

@jesussavior1364 as well i make a correction to a comment I posted to you earlier...I ment to say "the MT that the KJV TRANSLATES(not quotes) from only dates to the 8th century"

[jesussavior1364]

@GmsSouthLdn Do you even know what your talking about? I pray the blood of jesus over you to wash you clean and clean the negativity off your heart

[gtepp031387]

@jesussavior1364 Intresting that the MT that the KJV quotes from only dates to the 8th century, while they have full books of the Septuagint that date to 2nd centry B.C....arguing corruption is against you....The early Christians all also used the Septuagint...Clement, Polycarp, Ignatius...who are called the apostolic fathers becaues they where ordained and taught face to face by the apostles all used the Septuagint and Christianity continued to use this version and still does.

[jesussavior1364]

@jatamode king james is a fake book. You got to be very careful because those books are using mythology of the angels that men today worship. That book isnt supposed to be in the bible

[TheWuTang36]

Jude v 14 -15 Has to be referring to the book of Enoch because the old testament in the King James version Bible never says anyting about Enoch saying anything or prophesying.