The occupy wall street crowd has largely discredit itself by giving Obama a pass. Here is what is going to happen. They will all go home and vote for the incumbent president and we will have 4 more years of the same thing. How revolutionary!
@PatriotsDomain I’m sorry, I simply don’t believe that. Who are these protesters going to vote for then? A third party? and who is that? Michael Moore fashions himself as an OWS protester as does Susan Sarandon etc. etc. The list goes on. So who are they all going to support in 2012? I will tell you who. Obama.
@PatriotsDomain I have gotten to the point where I just wish that people would vote FOR someone they like rather than vote AGAINST someone they don’t like. “Lesser of 2 evils” just guarantees that you will get evil.
@michaelterry1000 Who are they going to support? Good question, because you know too, that the GOP candidates are hopeless and Obama is much of the same thing. You are right, they probably don't have much of a choice but to hold their breath and vote for Obama as a lesser of 2 evils, but that doesn't mean that they support him.
@wildreams I do not see Obama as the “lesser of 2 evils”. I HONESTLY do not see the difference between Bush and Obama. Bush had the facade of a cowboy, Obama has the facade of a Baptist preacher. Both support Patriot Act, Gitmo, Super Pacs, Mit Romney health care, bombing countries we are not at war with etc. If you ignore what these politicians SAY and only look at what they DO you will see that their isn’t a difference between them.
@michaelterry1000 I'm no Obama apologist, and he did fail on these fronts. But there is a difference between trying and not trying (eg. on closing Guantanamo Bay). And the conditions of Guantanamo Bay did get better since he took office. At least he did bring the troops back from Iraq and got Osama bin Laden, passed the Stimulus package and healthcare reform (watered down).
@wildreams It is true that he SAID that he wanted to close GITMO. But that to me is just another politician lips moving with no action. I dont know that GITMO conditions are better. We were given a deadline by Iraq to get out of the country. We were kicked out. Yes, He got Osama but by using Bush tactics - Sent troops to a foreign country without countries knowledge, shot up building killing people BEFORE he was sure that Osama was there. I dont see a Dif between Bush and Obama.
@michaelterry1000 He not only said that, but he proposed that in the House too, but he probably did not push it strong enough (in my opinion) and it essentially got cut by a bi-partisan opposition, but plans to close GTMO is still on-going. Iraq: Yes, he got us out, while the GOP will keep us in. He was sure that Osama was there, he did not use indiscriminate bombings, instead he sent in commandos to minimize/prevent unintended civilian death, what are you talking about?
@wildreams NO they were not sure Osama was in the compound. It was a gamble that Obama won. Obama lost some gambling on shooting missiles in Pakistan Killing innocent people. Read Wikipedia ‘Drone attacks in Pakistan’. In 2008 (Bush) Read wikipedia ‘U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement’ agreed to full withdrawl by Dec 2011. US foreign policy is on the same autopilot now that it has been on since 9/11. No difference between Bush and Obama.
@michaelterry1000 No.. the drone bombings were not for killing Osama.. They are for fighting the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. And I 100% condemn it because the high civilian casualty rate due to the nature of these strikes. Capturing Osama requires a much more complex, intelligence-intensive operation. They were not 100% sure that Osama was in there, but they have strong evidence for it, and they prevented civilian casualty by sending commandos. There were women and children in that building too.
@michaelterry1000 I understand that you are critical of some of Obama's policies. But dismissing everything and anything that Obama does when some of them are the right moves? Aren't you doing the same thing as the GOP for hating on him whatever he does? Intellectual honesty is the basis of a mature, open discussion.
@wildreams I Honestly do not see any fundamental difference in foreign policy between Bush & Obama. I dont blame Obama anymore than I blame Bush. What possible foreign policy difference between the two could explain how Bush is an indicted war criminal in Canada and Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize? I would love to hear the answer to that one.
I heard that the Oakland Occupiers are calling for a Burn Your Credit Card Day on November 25. Everyone with credit card interest rates over 8% burns their card in front of a bank at noon. They think this will stick it to the banks for causing so much misery with high credit card rates.
Suggestion for the IGNORANT SHEEP following this movement. "OCCUPY A LIBRARY" for about a week and while your there, pick up a book or two. But don't leave the damn place until you have studied up on BASIC ECONOMICS.
Good going, Bill!! Yes, the Wall Street Bastards hate handouts. But they can't wait to have Uncle (Corporate Tom) Sam hand them one. As long as poor people don't get any.
If Obama wins it will be by default.
ruribe121 1 month ago
The occupy wall street crowd has largely discredit itself by giving Obama a pass. Here is what is going to happen. They will all go home and vote for the incumbent president and we will have 4 more years of the same thing. How revolutionary!
michaelterry1000 1 month ago
@michaelterry1000
fact: most of the protesters are against Obama.
PatriotsDomain 1 month ago
@PatriotsDomain I’m sorry, I simply don’t believe that. Who are these protesters going to vote for then? A third party? and who is that? Michael Moore fashions himself as an OWS protester as does Susan Sarandon etc. etc. The list goes on. So who are they all going to support in 2012? I will tell you who. Obama.
michaelterry1000 1 month ago
@michaelterry1000
they will vote for Ron Paul. Let me guess, you are against him also.
PatriotsDomain 3 weeks ago
@PatriotsDomain I have gotten to the point where I just wish that people would vote FOR someone they like rather than vote AGAINST someone they don’t like. “Lesser of 2 evils” just guarantees that you will get evil.
michaelterry1000 2 weeks ago
@michaelterry1000 Who are they going to support? Good question, because you know too, that the GOP candidates are hopeless and Obama is much of the same thing. You are right, they probably don't have much of a choice but to hold their breath and vote for Obama as a lesser of 2 evils, but that doesn't mean that they support him.
wildreams 3 weeks ago
@wildreams I do not see Obama as the “lesser of 2 evils”. I HONESTLY do not see the difference between Bush and Obama. Bush had the facade of a cowboy, Obama has the facade of a Baptist preacher. Both support Patriot Act, Gitmo, Super Pacs, Mit Romney health care, bombing countries we are not at war with etc. If you ignore what these politicians SAY and only look at what they DO you will see that their isn’t a difference between them.
michaelterry1000 2 weeks ago
@michaelterry1000 I'm no Obama apologist, and he did fail on these fronts. But there is a difference between trying and not trying (eg. on closing Guantanamo Bay). And the conditions of Guantanamo Bay did get better since he took office. At least he did bring the troops back from Iraq and got Osama bin Laden, passed the Stimulus package and healthcare reform (watered down).
wildreams 2 weeks ago
@wildreams It is true that he SAID that he wanted to close GITMO. But that to me is just another politician lips moving with no action. I dont know that GITMO conditions are better. We were given a deadline by Iraq to get out of the country. We were kicked out. Yes, He got Osama but by using Bush tactics - Sent troops to a foreign country without countries knowledge, shot up building killing people BEFORE he was sure that Osama was there. I dont see a Dif between Bush and Obama.
michaelterry1000 2 weeks ago
@michaelterry1000 He not only said that, but he proposed that in the House too, but he probably did not push it strong enough (in my opinion) and it essentially got cut by a bi-partisan opposition, but plans to close GTMO is still on-going. Iraq: Yes, he got us out, while the GOP will keep us in. He was sure that Osama was there, he did not use indiscriminate bombings, instead he sent in commandos to minimize/prevent unintended civilian death, what are you talking about?
wildreams 2 weeks ago
@wildreams NO they were not sure Osama was in the compound. It was a gamble that Obama won. Obama lost some gambling on shooting missiles in Pakistan Killing innocent people. Read Wikipedia ‘Drone attacks in Pakistan’. In 2008 (Bush) Read wikipedia ‘U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement’ agreed to full withdrawl by Dec 2011. US foreign policy is on the same autopilot now that it has been on since 9/11. No difference between Bush and Obama.
michaelterry1000 2 weeks ago
@michaelterry1000 No.. the drone bombings were not for killing Osama.. They are for fighting the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. And I 100% condemn it because the high civilian casualty rate due to the nature of these strikes. Capturing Osama requires a much more complex, intelligence-intensive operation. They were not 100% sure that Osama was in there, but they have strong evidence for it, and they prevented civilian casualty by sending commandos. There were women and children in that building too.
wildreams 1 week ago
@michaelterry1000 I understand that you are critical of some of Obama's policies. But dismissing everything and anything that Obama does when some of them are the right moves? Aren't you doing the same thing as the GOP for hating on him whatever he does? Intellectual honesty is the basis of a mature, open discussion.
wildreams 1 week ago
@wildreams I Honestly do not see any fundamental difference in foreign policy between Bush & Obama. I dont blame Obama anymore than I blame Bush. What possible foreign policy difference between the two could explain how Bush is an indicted war criminal in Canada and Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize? I would love to hear the answer to that one.
michaelterry1000 1 week ago
@PatriotsDomain Facts are things which can be proven. Prove it.
k3v1n47 3 weeks ago
@k3v1n47
why not look up videos about OWS. Many have said they don't support him.
PatriotsDomain 3 weeks ago
lol, I don't think Bill Maher has been down there at all
morganofconnaught 2 months ago
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I heard that the Oakland Occupiers are calling for a Burn Your Credit Card Day on November 25. Everyone with credit card interest rates over 8% burns their card in front of a bank at noon. They think this will stick it to the banks for causing so much misery with high credit card rates.
oldhappyguy 3 months ago
LOL
99onlineProject 4 months ago
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Suggestion for the IGNORANT SHEEP following this movement. "OCCUPY A LIBRARY" for about a week and while your there, pick up a book or two. But don't leave the damn place until you have studied up on BASIC ECONOMICS.
bozomonster 4 months ago
Good going, Bill!! Yes, the Wall Street Bastards hate handouts. But they can't wait to have Uncle (Corporate Tom) Sam hand them one. As long as poor people don't get any.
But they can't have it both ways.
Robbi165 4 months ago
AMEN!
pattrick208 4 months ago
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KEEP UP THE PROTEST OCCUPY!
THE 99% WILL PREVAIL!
Keep up the protest.
The unemployment rate is getting worse increasing the number of protesters.
Where are the jobs? (US Unemployment rate: 25%)
8 times more 2011 graduates than 2011 jobs. This is unsustainable.
OCCUPY [WORLD] IS WRAPPING THE GLOBE
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CECOAdvocate 4 months ago