We the people run this shit Tom so back that shit up player. This is the web. Created by DARPA ran by no one. So do us all a favor and head to the gallows to fill the vacancy. tl:dr - Fuck you
I completely understand what yyour saying, although the internet is far to large to be controlled effectivley. Its like the Wild West, The internet cannot be 'Policed' Effectivly without placing massive bans which would take away a lot of the Freedom that the internet brings. I understand that people threatening you online is wrong of course. But I believe that the internet cannot be controlled. The internet is something that not even the most powerful of governments could bring down.
For one thing, the way you whisper is very creepy, and yes I would tell you that in real life.
Secondly, you are a fool to think that the majority of the world is at the point where if you have a problem somebody would care. Truth is in the USA you have that privilege, but in developing countries (aka the other 75% of the world) it is no way like that.
Obviously this guy has either spent three days on the internet, or spent three minutes thinking before he turned his camera on.
I get death threats on a daily basis... On the internet, and each time I give out my home address, and out of the about five hundred times I have given out my address, I have had two guys turn up and it was just a little chat between the differences.
Things said on the internet are always over exaggerated, penis size, Chuck Norris like abilities, all exaggeration.
ALL OF YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP! lmao jk i cant say it doesnt matter but one video wont change nothing, never will, never has. one nothing changes nothing. there are to many people.
Do you think that the human population is in line with what you consider rational behavior? Have you seen how crazy your own microcosm is Tom?
You should fear only those things you know to fear. I am more scared to give out my address based on what might happen if my roommate found out, not on some random internet sociopath, or a guy on the street.
I think the "real world" is full of mean characters such as these, they are called kids Tom, spending much of their time at school, powerless.
nice job btw. Your speaking style reminds me of an old friend of mine. This video really struck home for me because I do that too, I tend to act differantly on the internet than in real life.
i've met "a couple" over 25 year old ppl who act like this on internet but mostly its the 10-19 year old ppl. They act dumb in real life too i think theres nothing else to it. Ofc theres some 30+ dudes who act like this but I'm alrdy smiling a bit here as i just imagined a 30+ year old dude going "I know where u live". I dun wanna say the exact countries but there definitely are a few that seem to be genetically bad mannered over internet. This is my thoughts.
I haven't bothered to hop on the moral horse in ages any more. I've thought there must be something liberating in acting so out of character and differently from what we perceive as normal behaviour. Maybe it's filling some hidden need we haven't figured out yet. But I rarely, if ever actually, act like a lobotomised teenager on acid. I do find it "funny" to be a jerk sometime. Could it change me, make me act moronic in every day life too? That's why internet is serious business. Good vid man.
I don't think people understand how we change. It's not a huge overnight flash, but an insidious process of one thing, then another. Start being an habitual jerk on the Internet and it just might become easier everywhere. Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
i was just thinking here. what would you think about you on this video if you saw it again. probably "man...i did a nice job, look at you...great thoughts, great words..fabulous speech"
You know, it's interesting. I thing this might be my most popular video, not in views, but in comments. I could have done a better job in spots but overall, I'm happy with it. If you're at all interested in seeing more of my videos, come on over to VloggerHeads where we're doing our best to create a vibrant vlogging community. Thanks again.
Your analogy is loose and thus your reasoning is flawed. Many people online are disguised rather than unknown. When I want to communicate in a forum where I know that I'll be ridiculed, I use a different user. I think it is appropriate for some online speech to be more free than other speech. Our laws must be applied carefully to the online world. I would not trust you to apply them because you use the internet too much. The internet makes you stupid.
internet 2 anyone? there are still measures to protecting people's lives when they are threated on a website or via email even while the internet remains unregulated to some extent. On the internet, people should be entitled to their own opinions, but the line is drawn when they threaten the life of another living being. that is beyond a legitimate opinion, in any regards.
The internet have no (real) rules, or at least it's easier to break them in here than in the real world. In the real world there is the moral rules that the society has arbitrarily created to tell people what's "Wrong" or what's not. In the internet since you don't have the people on your face and you can be anonymous, the rules bends and most of the people do things that they wouldn't in the real world because of those rules.
You're talking about being fools and throwing out wisdom on a site where we praise a fat man who waves him arms around like a lunatic in front of a web camera to a Romanian pop song...
Right.. If we saw a man doing that on the street, we would run like hell and tell our friends later about the nutty fat guy dancing on the street, but since it's online, it actually is okay.
And, as long as it stays there, who cares? But it doesn't always stay in that region.
Anyway, if you want to see other old (and not so old) fools waving our arms around like in a lunatic asylum in front of a web camera to a Romanian song, or some modern versions of that, come to VloggerHeads.
oh dear, i really hope i don't descend to this level of human life through being so old. this is really depressing. dont engage with shit talking losers on the internet, they're not worth your time.
you should be doing something constructive, and so should i. which is probably why i'm so upset with the fact that i stumbled across this shitty video.
FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER!! hahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahaaaaaaaahahahhaahahahahahahahaahahahahhhhaha
zomg teh internet is serious business! but seriously, if people dont want to get flamed, then maybe they shouldnt put themselves out there for it. also, theres a feature on this site, and on many sites called block. it comes in handy and works a lot better than whining
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I utterly hate that meme. Why the fuck isn't the Internet 'serious business'? Because of 4chan, SomethingAwful, and Encyclopedia Dramatica? Because there is a demographic of degenerate assholes who can't take communication seriously because of its medium?
Geriatric1927 is a smelly disgusting ignorant sack of shit. He should just fuckoff and die? I hope next year will bring just that. Hopefully he will be dead by next year and then cremated into a pile of ash and thrown into the pacific ocean. But of course that would be an insult to the pacific ocean.
One day in the future, the Internet World will impinge on our "real" world, and millions of people who thought they were "alone" in their radical ideas will find out that tons of people think as they do, and all the B.S. of this "real" world and its rules, will be overthrown by the sheer force of the next generation. They will listen to their own hearts and brains, and experience the joys and happiness of life as it was meant to be. Not the "suffering and sacrifice" rules we have now. All B.S.
The Internet IS the real world. It's where people become their REAL selves, not those fake, cover up personalities they show to the outside world, but their real true hearts, and their real true love, and their real true anger. It's much more REAL on The Internet. The world as we know it is made up of a bunch of rules that "systems" have created. Most of it is a bunch of B.S. and doesn't work anyway. I love The Internet, and I've never been too happy with the B.S. social rules of the world.
I hear ya, man (or woman possibly, no sexism here). You have no idea how much more bitching and whining I'd get if I acted the way I want to in person, as opposed to my rants and the stuff I do online.
Tom, a lot of the people you're talking about lack any type of social skills whatever( just look at some of the comments for proof)...they live through their computer..and haven't a clue as to how to act in the real world.
I personally would like to keep the internet a free place as it is at the moment. Its the most free place in the world, you cannot be physically hurt by text and people will be idiots. I don't see the harm.
The fact of the matter is, there is just one internet, but not one world. An internet law broken in one country is not necessarily illegal in another.
i so agree, what i say on the internet i will say to a persons face. i hate flamers, they're bullies on the internet because they know they can't get their asses kicked. if only i could reach through my computer screen and knock someones teeth out
I think the majority of the reason most social boundaries are broken down on the internet is because of the anonymity internet allows us to have.
There are many cases where people feel empowered over the fact that they can say what they want and no one will know who they are. But then there are people, like you, (and I in certain cases,) who are more civil over the interwebs as they are in real life.
Granted this is coming from a gamers point of view, where everyone "better" than the next guy.
ok. the reason i asked was because at the end you mentioned "a site we are thinking about", and i was wondering if you were referring to an actual website, but perhaps i misunderstood. i agree that its cool when people are nice
All I have to yes is very well said. And well I believe in freedom of speach and well 100% freedom, but yeah. It pisses me off when some makes a fake personality and just spits out pointless jabber aka haters that's just so pointless.
Interesting video. You have to remember that the hate on the internet does not just come from nowhere, many people of today are spoiled and even bitter at many things they have no control over in every day life.
Many people will look for things on the internet to let some steam out on. A lot of the time, this comes in the form of hate comments and arguing. Most people don't even mean what they say...how could they? they don't even know who they are saying it to...
People do things online that they wouldn't in real life because there's anonymity. They can express the worst of themselves without the risk of ruined relationships, a bloody nose, or other consequences. Most of the hating is written. I've never seen a hater put his face where his mouth is by posting his hostile comments in video form.
What I wonder is - by removing the social boundaries that keep our baser selves in check, is the internet revealing something ugly about humanity's true colors?
"True colors" is a little strong. Context affects behavior a great deal. Anonymity is a condition we rarely encounter in the everyday world and it emboldens people who've bottled up a lot of stuff. That stuff spills out all over the Internet. We need to help ourselves to behave in civilized ways by creating enabling structures. That will get us back to where we are in the day-to-day world. Not perfect, but satisfactory. thanks.
Aha, that is such a level-headed, charitable, and optimistic perspective. I'm glad you responded. I tend to fear the worst, but you're right. The "worst" do not necessarily represent the many or even the mean (pardon the pun). I do find the vitriol in some online discourse disturbing, but I should be careful not to assume that haters present the true unspoken thoughts of the majority. More likely they are actually at an extreme end of the bell curve. Thanks! I feel better now :)
Not that I endorse blatantly harmful speech but being able to say things that we wouldn't normal feel comfortable saying is a wonderful thing. It allows us to hear the thoughts, motivations and desires of people that we otherwise wouldn't be able to. I would assume you also see this. I agree that outbursts of hateful speech is wrong but anonymity must endure past that and we must retain the benefits of it while reforming the extreme effects of it.
I would like to say firstly, being treated badly on the internet is not right. But don't let the childish few ruin the pure freedom we experience on the internet. If we were to try to force law into the internet, the very essence of what the internet has become would die the same day. There would be no more comunities, blogs, or free news, no new ideas or consepts, no scientific development or progress. This is why unfortunatly people say "It's just the internet". The internet is fragile.
Tlg, the internet is a source for people to get AWAY from the real word. Most people come out on the internet and show their real selfs and belive me when i say this, there is more racists in this world than people think. You should just think about that mate.
I really like the part where you said the bit about Officer, we got a guy who needs some attention over here. I'm going to use that, if you don't mind, the next time it is appropriate. I usually just run in circle flailing my arms screaming, "I need and adult! I need and adult!" and then someone taps me on the shoulder and says, "You are an adult." Your way makes much more sense. Thanks for that. That bit was very very cool. I'm now a fan of you. ;)
Instead of further regulating and policing the behaviour of those on the net, I'd prefer to see that we as a culture decide on our own to reject the petty behaviour of internet bullies.
Though I find you've laid out a valid argument, I have to disagree. I would not so much say that technology has split our lives into who we are online compared with who we are in public. Rather, I would think that, as with anyone, who we are in private is always a different face from the one we wear for others' benefit. Technology has not so much split our identities in two as much as allowed our personal selves enough anonymity to come out in the open.
so who is to decide what is within the boundries? it is just fascism to prohibit someone from saying what he wants to, because we consider it outside these boundries....
and by the way... it doesnt make any difference where u say or do something, or at least it shouldnt.
people should be allowed to say the same kind of stuff not just on the internets..(muhaha.)but also in real world... but people that consider that kind of behaviour outside of boundries, take away this possibility....
Nice video. Very sensible. I agree. And even though I've been many times like the onces you have mentioned in your video and living by those made up principals that the Internet grants you unlimited freedom to say whatever the hell you want, when you want and how you want it. I guess I got wiser. The fuckers who think that is what freedom of speech is, are either some of the most dumbest cocksuckers on the planet or they just don't give a shit about rules, dignity or other people.
I agree with you on this point entirely, you are quite correct in that people should act the same (or at least: Treat others how they wish to be treated).
Unfortunately people think that they are completely anonymous online-they are not. Everyone can be tracked by someone else, especially if that person has no idea what they are doing.
The key is that you should treat others with respect.
The internet is like a place to express our thoughts. A place where our thoughts can be expressed with no consequence. This is something we can't do in the real world, a major disadvantage and yet an advantage we lack. Disadvantages; fraud, child pornography, hate, etc. Advantages; no fear from online society as new accounts can be created, communication towards different cultures that can lead towards major help and support, as well as many new innovative ideas.
Difference in generation maybe but I just can't agree. The copper wire makes all the difference. On the good ole' interwebs there is no such thing as manners or a good guy and a bad guy. Thats what makes it so honest. We can "face" eachother, just two mind sets with no regard for anything else like age or social position. Thousands and thousands of years of tensions and social rules gone and only what we really think is left. I think that is progress not a trip to the dark-ages.
I can certainly value that point of view as long as what we're dealing with stays in the realm of language. When it goes beyond, as we know it sometimes does, another matter entirely. Appreciate the comment.
I agree with you 100%, people act so differently when they're anonymous and untraceable. Sure some people are abusive in real life too, but a lot of people are too afraid of the consequences so they do it where they are hidden behind a computer screen. It really is quite pathetic how so many videos, on this website alone are guaranteed to have hundreds of abusive comments from people who you'd pass on the street without any trouble.
over the internet you can usually tell what i person is like anyway, but i do agree (mostly kids 10-15 put on an act because they think they can say what they like, but whats wrong with a bit of extra free speech, saves you getting a black eye if you were to say it on the street anyway, most of the time people over the internet i saying what they actually really want to say out in public,
Here's the simple truth. People on the internet say to you exactly what they would think to themselves if they passed you on the street. It's simply the fear of consequences that result in civil behavior. It's why we have police. With no consequences it would be a mad max kind of world. Internet > all. Deal with it.
...and consequences is why the Internet will become just like the rest of the world. We create new social structures to EXTEND the world, not take it backwards. Deal with that.
You going to be the thought police now? It's people with that kind of mindset that will have all of us living in a world like Minority Report. Fascism is alive and well I see. The downside is that experience has taught us the tighter you try to squeeze society the more it slips through your fingers.
Who said thought police? You got thought police in your daily life? Fascism? Where'd that come from? Pre-crimes? Please. Experience has taught us that the perfect balance of freedom and structure works; absolutes in either direction = disaster.
You're talking about adding consequences for people on the internet, and I really don't know how you plan to do that. You going to send cops to people's houses when they verbally assault each other online? The discussion is moot though. You're generation will be gone soon, and we wont have to bow down to those who obviously fear what they don't understand.
You are an Idiot,your poor little feelings getting hurt on the internet or on the street will never make a difference. Suck it up. Long live the internet and all its negative comments.The right "you" have to be an ass on the internet is the same right everyone else has.You WILL NOT ever stop human nature! On the street or on the internet.You sir are a fool for thinking you can change Mankind from a Video message.I am sure this guy had the same words for the cop on the street as he did for you!
I've faced the differences by talking to some of my friends on the Internet and in real life face to face
Some people can take it seriously the way you behave on the internet and some dont. I understand that you said its not okay to have a split personal because of the Internet but to be honest, from time to time I do act foolish but I dont let the technology decide what I am. I am using the technology to decide what I am on the Internet in way.
you raised the very important issue. Internet has both positive and negative impact on our lives. Many people are committing suicide with using the knowledge on the Internet.
It's very dangerous to discount the seriousness of the wrongs just because it's on the Internet.
motherfucka they know where I live! now what! if they want to harm me I'll sue their asses, and if they want kill me, go right ahead, Heaven is waiting!!!!!!!!! I'd say the same damn thing to your face and EVERYONE else! The internet is one of the last free places we can go to speak the truth, or I'd be dead already speaking THE TRUTH if I was out in the REAL FAKE WORLD, and THANK GOD FOR THE INTERNET FROM THIS POLICED, STUPID SOCIETY HELL HOLE CALLED EARTH I LIVE IN FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!
It's all about anonymity. I'm 17 but I definitely feel where you're coming from, I may have grown up with the internet, but I most definitely agree that the lack of consequence online turns a bothering amount of people into jackasses.
I don't believe the internet needs to be policed, if that's what you were insinuating, but people need to speak and act with a lot more dignity and self respect.
Here's until we can throw punches through monitors.
I disagree... I'm one of those "good girls" that you were talking about... work-a-holic, mother, grandmother, wife, I homeschool my son, don't drink, don't smoke, don't party etc etc etc...but on here, I get to say what I want...be a little mischievious if I want to...nothing illegal or dangerous..just a little naughty!!!
As long as it stays "in the wires" and does not go into their personal domain...it should be ok to be a little naughty!
I love your comment. "Mischievous" isn't the problem; "malicious" is. Can we tell the difference? Sure. If everyone kept "in the wires" we wouldn't have the kinds of problems we have here. That's why I believe we'll eventually extend the mechanisms that keep us in the wires elsewhere to the online domain as well. Thanks for a thoughtful viewpoint.
Good one. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people, including me, are thinking the exact same thoughts - but unfortunately, the people who break rules of ethics and acts generally disrespectul towards everyone, doesn't really care what you say, and probably hasn't even watched this video.
Your right, you can disagree with a statement, idealogy or simply not like somebodies face without desceding into a stream of filth. A little more kindness and a lot less venting of personal insecurities would be nice.
I dont take things personally if its via YT comments, its just some idiot trying to be nasty cos they feel so insecure and worthless in the real world that they feel they have to project their frustrations out on here. But I think if you are nasty online then that speaks volumes about your REAL character anyway ;) Very good video indeed.
Sure, nasty comments aren't the issue. It's the threats that people have experienced that goes over the line and speaks loudly about cowardice and character. Thanks.
Objective morality does not exist. God does not exist, or if both of them do, I do not care and existence is absurd. The order of the world outside the internet is maintained through the threat of brute force, the spontaneous subjective desire to help others, and the sickly desire of many christians and the like to be perceived as "good". Toughen up. Become hard. There are no police here in the internet, but no sticks and stones. The ressentiment exhibited by this man makes me want to vomit.
the internet is an expansion of the world. and if on this world such things were permitted, violence would be a daily and normal thing to happen. and theres no way u have to "draw the line" , civilised ppl who have some common sense shouldnt act like that even on the internet. i hope u can make everyone understand that with your vids.
We the people run this shit Tom so back that shit up player. This is the web. Created by DARPA ran by no one. So do us all a favor and head to the gallows to fill the vacancy. tl:dr - Fuck you
CaptainRidley 1 month ago
wise words, i wasn't expecting this when i clicked the video, im subscribing
4000subs 7 months ago
Dude, get over it, the internet is always going to be free. You are always welcome to walk away from something you don't like on the internet.
robjoshow 1 year ago
Your hair is nice.
Spooner3674 1 year ago
hey dickface time to fuck off!
waste0fspais 1 year ago
Damn straight, Tom!!!
JA101K 1 year ago
Real talk...
When logic like this drops, how can you look away?
BROimREALtalk 1 year ago
fuck you tom you pedo looking mother fucker!
ClydesRevenge 1 year ago
Wait, like at the beginning of this video...isn't that normal if you live in New York City??
ps - I would NEVER call you mother fucker to your face because you look like a scary man that would yell at me.
MissAliiciia 1 year ago
I completely understand what yyour saying, although the internet is far to large to be controlled effectivley. Its like the Wild West, The internet cannot be 'Policed' Effectivly without placing massive bans which would take away a lot of the Freedom that the internet brings. I understand that people threatening you online is wrong of course. But I believe that the internet cannot be controlled. The internet is something that not even the most powerful of governments could bring down.
worldsendmusic 1 year ago
For one thing, the way you whisper is very creepy, and yes I would tell you that in real life.
Secondly, you are a fool to think that the majority of the world is at the point where if you have a problem somebody would care. Truth is in the USA you have that privilege, but in developing countries (aka the other 75% of the world) it is no way like that.
Cyberdyne12 1 year ago
on behalf of the internetz, I ask you sir to... leave, and take your fail with out.
Mixarenan 1 year ago
I THINK I KNOW HIM
theknifemanguy 1 year ago
It's freedom of speech! People yell rude things to me all the time when I'm taking my dog for a walk and I occasionally insult them back.
You people who don't believe in freedom of speech are the dangerous ones.
OhBilly955 1 year ago
You do not understand the internet sir.
TrollersUnion 2 years ago
relax guy, it's just an interweb
theradu123 2 years ago
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theradu123 2 years ago
I want to know what people are thinking!
Maybe every day you walk past people who are thinking "f*** you" or want to sleep with you or kill you (or both) etc...
...but you don't know what they are thinking.
The internet allows us to see this.
That's one of the beautiful things about it - it shows us another side of reality that would otherwise be inaccessible.
Peace.
ajarnguy 2 years ago
This guy is so right. Innocent people's face is dragged onto shitty 4chan, and made a mockery of.
IEatNoobz4Breakie 2 years ago
Obviously this guy has either spent three days on the internet, or spent three minutes thinking before he turned his camera on.
I get death threats on a daily basis... On the internet, and each time I give out my home address, and out of the about five hundred times I have given out my address, I have had two guys turn up and it was just a little chat between the differences.
Things said on the internet are always over exaggerated, penis size, Chuck Norris like abilities, all exaggeration.
dougpecklord 2 years ago
Internet. It r a srs buizniz.
BluePlue 2 years ago
@BluePlue LOL U WIN
yotubefan34 2 years ago
ALL OF YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP! lmao jk i cant say it doesnt matter but one video wont change nothing, never will, never has. one nothing changes nothing. there are to many people.
niddasa 2 years ago
One video can't change everything, but it sure can help.
Planting seeds helps, some of them will grow in good-enough soil.
detubator 2 years ago
This is of course a very true video. A few seconds into it, I was already halfway through typing up a quote from Mein Kampf.
Lexmechanicus 2 years ago
Come on, now. Who the hell let Robert De Niro on da internetz?
Nintendog140 2 years ago
Do you think that the human population is in line with what you consider rational behavior? Have you seen how crazy your own microcosm is Tom?
You should fear only those things you know to fear. I am more scared to give out my address based on what might happen if my roommate found out, not on some random internet sociopath, or a guy on the street.
I think the "real world" is full of mean characters such as these, they are called kids Tom, spending much of their time at school, powerless.
Fuctkard 2 years ago
I agree.
MysteriousHxC 2 years ago
Funny thing is, this guy is 100% right.
marioluigi1234567 2 years ago 9
he's totally right and you people can diss on him all you want but in your heart you know its true.
vNPallid 2 years ago
Stop acting high and mighty and that only your opinion matters, douchebag.
TheBlueMarth 2 years ago
lol, come to England, everyone here is an asshole.
polopnol 2 years ago 2
nice job btw. Your speaking style reminds me of an old friend of mine. This video really struck home for me because I do that too, I tend to act differantly on the internet than in real life.
Blueheartedangel 2 years ago
the intrwebz be srs business.
MOTHERFUCKINGASSWIPE 2 years ago 4
fuck you mother fucker
Nonoyawns 2 years ago 4
Good point.
And it's funny how a mask/cloak can bring out the "best" of some people.
detubator 2 years ago
Proof that free speech is pointless.
MoreLikeDemocrappy 2 years ago
i've met "a couple" over 25 year old ppl who act like this on internet but mostly its the 10-19 year old ppl. They act dumb in real life too i think theres nothing else to it. Ofc theres some 30+ dudes who act like this but I'm alrdy smiling a bit here as i just imagined a 30+ year old dude going "I know where u live". I dun wanna say the exact countries but there definitely are a few that seem to be genetically bad mannered over internet. This is my thoughts.
DrunkAndAcoustic 2 years ago
I haven't bothered to hop on the moral horse in ages any more. I've thought there must be something liberating in acting so out of character and differently from what we perceive as normal behaviour. Maybe it's filling some hidden need we haven't figured out yet. But I rarely, if ever actually, act like a lobotomised teenager on acid. I do find it "funny" to be a jerk sometime. Could it change me, make me act moronic in every day life too? That's why internet is serious business. Good vid man.
vastis 2 years ago
I don't think people understand how we change. It's not a huge overnight flash, but an insidious process of one thing, then another. Start being an habitual jerk on the Internet and it just might become easier everywhere. Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
tlg847 2 years ago
Is this guy some sort of a troll?
Torsti5 2 years ago
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tylerpozzuto 2 years ago
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tlg847, fuck you motherfucker
esaeskosimo 2 years ago
ok faggot what are you gonna do about it?
swanny812 2 years ago
WTF is this shit?
Skigero 2 years ago
i was just thinking here. what would you think about you on this video if you saw it again. probably "man...i did a nice job, look at you...great thoughts, great words..fabulous speech"
great video by the way.
5 stars
pedro
TripleXdoc29 2 years ago
You know, it's interesting. I thing this might be my most popular video, not in views, but in comments. I could have done a better job in spots but overall, I'm happy with it. If you're at all interested in seeing more of my videos, come on over to VloggerHeads where we're doing our best to create a vibrant vlogging community. Thanks again.
tlg847 2 years ago
I honestly think this is the best, or at least most personal to me, of your videos, Tom.
229095 2 years ago
Your analogy is loose and thus your reasoning is flawed. Many people online are disguised rather than unknown. When I want to communicate in a forum where I know that I'll be ridiculed, I use a different user. I think it is appropriate for some online speech to be more free than other speech. Our laws must be applied carefully to the online world. I would not trust you to apply them because you use the internet too much. The internet makes you stupid.
albygonzo 2 years ago
IMA CHARGIN MA LZAE$R
HypeBlog 2 years ago
Robert DeNiro with downsyndrome.
HobbsStratford 2 years ago 2
Now, that's funny!
tlg847 2 years ago
Upon saying that, you've just made this person 100% sexier.
Ceth 2 years ago
Throw a roast chicken at tig847's head.
THEROASTCHICKEN 2 years ago
You win 1 free internet.. wait fuck you.
LevitationalMiku 2 years ago 2
internet 2 anyone? there are still measures to protecting people's lives when they are threated on a website or via email even while the internet remains unregulated to some extent. On the internet, people should be entitled to their own opinions, but the line is drawn when they threaten the life of another living being. that is beyond a legitimate opinion, in any regards.
SirBanon 2 years ago
DO A BARREL ROLL!
MickTravisBickle 2 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
INTERNET SERIOUS BUSINESS
DamianiWins 2 years ago
lol
DamianiWins 2 years ago
Good point Tom
1dockthorwho23 2 years ago
yes u idiot! just because we r connected through a piece of wire its JUST THE INTERNET...i dont know in what fucked up dellusional world u live in!
potsiiscool 2 years ago
The internet have no (real) rules, or at least it's easier to break them in here than in the real world. In the real world there is the moral rules that the society has arbitrarily created to tell people what's "Wrong" or what's not. In the internet since you don't have the people on your face and you can be anonymous, the rules bends and most of the people do things that they wouldn't in the real world because of those rules.
ShikiGamiKun 2 years ago 4
FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER
anil099 2 years ago 4
Lol, thanks to prove my point.
ShikiGamiKun 2 years ago 2
this guy eats mushrooms
doomcooter 3 years ago
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THIS IS SOME SERIOUS BUSINESS
d2girls 3 years ago
Beautifully said!
MagickalLady 3 years ago
You're talking about being fools and throwing out wisdom on a site where we praise a fat man who waves him arms around like a lunatic in front of a web camera to a Romanian pop song...
Right.. If we saw a man doing that on the street, we would run like hell and tell our friends later about the nutty fat guy dancing on the street, but since it's online, it actually is okay.
It really is ONLY the internet.
vivvav 3 years ago 2
And, as long as it stays there, who cares? But it doesn't always stay in that region.
Anyway, if you want to see other old (and not so old) fools waving our arms around like in a lunatic asylum in front of a web camera to a Romanian song, or some modern versions of that, come to VloggerHeads.
tlg847 3 years ago
Vloggerheads is COMPLETE FAIL its just a place for you and renetto to masterbate your egos...
VloGGerGod 3 years ago
I DONT LIKE YOU BITCH
NATEISAFAGGOTFUCKYOU 3 years ago
oh dear, i really hope i don't descend to this level of human life through being so old. this is really depressing. dont engage with shit talking losers on the internet, they're not worth your time.
you should be doing something constructive, and so should i. which is probably why i'm so upset with the fact that i stumbled across this shitty video.
FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER!! hahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahaaaaaaaahahahhaahahahahahahahaahahahahhhhaha
broseph127 3 years ago
zomg teh internet is serious business! but seriously, if people dont want to get flamed, then maybe they shouldnt put themselves out there for it. also, theres a feature on this site, and on many sites called block. it comes in handy and works a lot better than whining
thenat667 3 years ago 5
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I utterly hate that meme. Why the fuck isn't the Internet 'serious business'? Because of 4chan, SomethingAwful, and Encyclopedia Dramatica? Because there is a demographic of degenerate assholes who can't take communication seriously because of its medium?
Ignorant. Antiprogressive. Pathetic.
Saerain 3 years ago
hey i can say 3 words and look cool too. Retarded. Self-important. Lolcow.
thenat667 3 years ago 5
"just cause we connect to each other with a piece of wire..."
That's understatement. Do you think the Internet is just you and your two closest neighbours? It's the whole fucking world...
There can never be common rules for everyone, that's why you should just get over it.
If you don't wanna get flamed on forums, blogs and youtube then maybe you should stay away from them! Noone is forcing you to read that bullshit.
Porkkana89 3 years ago
Geriatric1927 is a smelly disgusting ignorant sack of shit. He should just fuckoff and die? I hope next year will bring just that. Hopefully he will be dead by next year and then cremated into a pile of ash and thrown into the pacific ocean. But of course that would be an insult to the pacific ocean.
JACKINTHEBOX1999 3 years ago
What is this jewcunt faggotry.
Don't expect any decency on the interweb. Ever.
mattrg320 3 years ago
One day in the future, the Internet World will impinge on our "real" world, and millions of people who thought they were "alone" in their radical ideas will find out that tons of people think as they do, and all the B.S. of this "real" world and its rules, will be overthrown by the sheer force of the next generation. They will listen to their own hearts and brains, and experience the joys and happiness of life as it was meant to be. Not the "suffering and sacrifice" rules we have now. All B.S.
Berglernut 3 years ago
The Internet IS the real world. It's where people become their REAL selves, not those fake, cover up personalities they show to the outside world, but their real true hearts, and their real true love, and their real true anger. It's much more REAL on The Internet. The world as we know it is made up of a bunch of rules that "systems" have created. Most of it is a bunch of B.S. and doesn't work anyway. I love The Internet, and I've never been too happy with the B.S. social rules of the world.
Berglernut 3 years ago
really? its much easier to pretend to be someone else on the internets. most people tend to do that. :]
frootEpebbles 3 years ago 2
I hear ya, man (or woman possibly, no sexism here). You have no idea how much more bitching and whining I'd get if I acted the way I want to in person, as opposed to my rants and the stuff I do online.
vivvav 3 years ago
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SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SON OF A BITCH
NATEISAFAGGOTFUCKYOU 3 years ago
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Is internet is serious business?
Ballero0 3 years ago
Tom, a lot of the people you're talking about lack any type of social skills whatever( just look at some of the comments for proof)...they live through their computer..and haven't a clue as to how to act in the real world.
all the best,
Doc
DocJakson 3 years ago
That's certainly true, Doc. Hey, thanks for joining us on VloggerHeads. Look forward to seeing you over there.
tlg847 3 years ago
well said, Tom...
gunxgirl 3 years ago 2
Well
Fuck you motherfucker
stop whineing and bitching like a little pansy
its the interweb get overs its
m0zone 3 years ago
I think you would like Internet2.
I personally would like to keep the internet a free place as it is at the moment. Its the most free place in the world, you cannot be physically hurt by text and people will be idiots. I don't see the harm.
mupet00000 3 years ago
The fact of the matter is, there is just one internet, but not one world. An internet law broken in one country is not necessarily illegal in another.
nitotom 3 years ago
well said. The internet is real life too.
GrahamAndFriends 3 years ago
i think they shud be banned from the internet lol
wishyoucouldbeme0405 3 years ago
All over 9000 internets
WhoRawred 3 years ago
Fuck you.
masterhalco 3 years ago
i so agree, what i say on the internet i will say to a persons face. i hate flamers, they're bullies on the internet because they know they can't get their asses kicked. if only i could reach through my computer screen and knock someones teeth out
blueterrior 3 years ago
I think the majority of the reason most social boundaries are broken down on the internet is because of the anonymity internet allows us to have.
There are many cases where people feel empowered over the fact that they can say what they want and no one will know who they are. But then there are people, like you, (and I in certain cases,) who are more civil over the interwebs as they are in real life.
Granted this is coming from a gamers point of view, where everyone "better" than the next guy.
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THEBOOGROUP 3 years ago
SERIOUS BUSINESS
ZappleZ 3 years ago 2
Bravo. Thank you for this. It is amazing the non-restraint that exists on the net.
BugLeagueChew 3 years ago
the internet is the thing i get all my porn from =(
iSuckedUrMomsTits 3 years ago
FUCK YOU MUTHERFUCKAH!!
ApopheniaIV 3 years ago
THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.
AngryTuber 3 years ago 3
Hey! Fuck you!
thedrizzzle 3 years ago
How's zat workin out forya then?
samtwist 3 years ago
woah, was that a sales pitch?
xxwalkamongusxx 3 years ago
Yup. I've been selling a different way of thinking about the online world for years.
tlg847 3 years ago
ok. the reason i asked was because at the end you mentioned "a site we are thinking about", and i was wondering if you were referring to an actual website, but perhaps i misunderstood. i agree that its cool when people are nice
xxwalkamongusxx 3 years ago
All I have to yes is very well said. And well I believe in freedom of speach and well 100% freedom, but yeah. It pisses me off when some makes a fake personality and just spits out pointless jabber aka haters that's just so pointless.
jlavoie830 3 years ago
The internet isn't real, you sore-assed nazi.
Erich745 3 years ago 2
Interesting video. You have to remember that the hate on the internet does not just come from nowhere, many people of today are spoiled and even bitter at many things they have no control over in every day life.
Many people will look for things on the internet to let some steam out on. A lot of the time, this comes in the form of hate comments and arguing. Most people don't even mean what they say...how could they? they don't even know who they are saying it to...
tokyocrow1977 3 years ago
People do things online that they wouldn't in real life because there's anonymity. They can express the worst of themselves without the risk of ruined relationships, a bloody nose, or other consequences. Most of the hating is written. I've never seen a hater put his face where his mouth is by posting his hostile comments in video form.
What I wonder is - by removing the social boundaries that keep our baser selves in check, is the internet revealing something ugly about humanity's true colors?
twink1ebug 3 years ago
"True colors" is a little strong. Context affects behavior a great deal. Anonymity is a condition we rarely encounter in the everyday world and it emboldens people who've bottled up a lot of stuff. That stuff spills out all over the Internet. We need to help ourselves to behave in civilized ways by creating enabling structures. That will get us back to where we are in the day-to-day world. Not perfect, but satisfactory. thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
Aha, that is such a level-headed, charitable, and optimistic perspective. I'm glad you responded. I tend to fear the worst, but you're right. The "worst" do not necessarily represent the many or even the mean (pardon the pun). I do find the vitriol in some online discourse disturbing, but I should be careful not to assume that haters present the true unspoken thoughts of the majority. More likely they are actually at an extreme end of the bell curve. Thanks! I feel better now :)
twink1ebug 3 years ago
Not that I endorse blatantly harmful speech but being able to say things that we wouldn't normal feel comfortable saying is a wonderful thing. It allows us to hear the thoughts, motivations and desires of people that we otherwise wouldn't be able to. I would assume you also see this. I agree that outbursts of hateful speech is wrong but anonymity must endure past that and we must retain the benefits of it while reforming the extreme effects of it.
jerzkid87 3 years ago
I would like to say firstly, being treated badly on the internet is not right. But don't let the childish few ruin the pure freedom we experience on the internet. If we were to try to force law into the internet, the very essence of what the internet has become would die the same day. There would be no more comunities, blogs, or free news, no new ideas or consepts, no scientific development or progress. This is why unfortunatly people say "It's just the internet". The internet is fragile.
carnil01 3 years ago
Tlg, the internet is a source for people to get AWAY from the real word. Most people come out on the internet and show their real selfs and belive me when i say this, there is more racists in this world than people think. You should just think about that mate.
UlsterScotKeith 3 years ago
Very good my friend! Please work hard to promote the respect, freedom and love.
TEAMWHITTINGTON
TEAMWHITTINGTON 3 years ago
Great point. Nothing should change just because we're communicating with each other on a computer. Keep making videos (and great points too)
JB04 3 years ago
Internet is serious business. Don't do or say anything bad, or the INTERNET POLICE will throw you in INTERNET JAIL.
si13ntn1nj4077 3 years ago 2
I really like the part where you said the bit about Officer, we got a guy who needs some attention over here. I'm going to use that, if you don't mind, the next time it is appropriate. I usually just run in circle flailing my arms screaming, "I need and adult! I need and adult!" and then someone taps me on the shoulder and says, "You are an adult." Your way makes much more sense. Thanks for that. That bit was very very cool. I'm now a fan of you. ;)
princesskimberlily 3 years ago
Instead of further regulating and policing the behaviour of those on the net, I'd prefer to see that we as a culture decide on our own to reject the petty behaviour of internet bullies.
BoStevoD 3 years ago
Though I find you've laid out a valid argument, I have to disagree. I would not so much say that technology has split our lives into who we are online compared with who we are in public. Rather, I would think that, as with anyone, who we are in private is always a different face from the one we wear for others' benefit. Technology has not so much split our identities in two as much as allowed our personal selves enough anonymity to come out in the open.
BoStevoD 3 years ago 2
so who is to decide what is within the boundries? it is just fascism to prohibit someone from saying what he wants to, because we consider it outside these boundries....
and by the way... it doesnt make any difference where u say or do something, or at least it shouldnt.
people should be allowed to say the same kind of stuff not just on the internets..(muhaha.)but also in real world... but people that consider that kind of behaviour outside of boundries, take away this possibility....
heleneakamansonfan 3 years ago
Nice video. Very sensible. I agree. And even though I've been many times like the onces you have mentioned in your video and living by those made up principals that the Internet grants you unlimited freedom to say whatever the hell you want, when you want and how you want it. I guess I got wiser. The fuckers who think that is what freedom of speech is, are either some of the most dumbest cocksuckers on the planet or they just don't give a shit about rules, dignity or other people.
Clownboogie 3 years ago
I agree with you on this point entirely, you are quite correct in that people should act the same (or at least: Treat others how they wish to be treated).
Unfortunately people think that they are completely anonymous online-they are not. Everyone can be tracked by someone else, especially if that person has no idea what they are doing.
The key is that you should treat others with respect.
Thank you for sharing,
Kimojuno (Jeff).
Kimojuno 3 years ago
Profound. I like it.
thelistener13 3 years ago
Fuck you motherfucker
Lern2interbutts you fucking moron.
Get the fuck off the internet if you don't like it, and get the shit off of my jewtube.
zarquolian 3 years ago
You said it all! 5* Thanks!
FlowersBirdArtist 3 years ago
Hey, thanks a lot. Much appreciated. Tom
tlg847 3 years ago
The internet is like a place to express our thoughts. A place where our thoughts can be expressed with no consequence. This is something we can't do in the real world, a major disadvantage and yet an advantage we lack. Disadvantages; fraud, child pornography, hate, etc. Advantages; no fear from online society as new accounts can be created, communication towards different cultures that can lead towards major help and support, as well as many new innovative ideas.
Oneworld87 3 years ago
Difference in generation maybe but I just can't agree. The copper wire makes all the difference. On the good ole' interwebs there is no such thing as manners or a good guy and a bad guy. Thats what makes it so honest. We can "face" eachother, just two mind sets with no regard for anything else like age or social position. Thousands and thousands of years of tensions and social rules gone and only what we really think is left. I think that is progress not a trip to the dark-ages.
spamato 3 years ago
I can certainly value that point of view as long as what we're dealing with stays in the realm of language. When it goes beyond, as we know it sometimes does, another matter entirely. Appreciate the comment.
tlg847 3 years ago
I agree with you 100%, people act so differently when they're anonymous and untraceable. Sure some people are abusive in real life too, but a lot of people are too afraid of the consequences so they do it where they are hidden behind a computer screen. It really is quite pathetic how so many videos, on this website alone are guaranteed to have hundreds of abusive comments from people who you'd pass on the street without any trouble.
HellSoul 3 years ago
over the internet you can usually tell what i person is like anyway, but i do agree (mostly kids 10-15 put on an act because they think they can say what they like, but whats wrong with a bit of extra free speech, saves you getting a black eye if you were to say it on the street anyway, most of the time people over the internet i saying what they actually really want to say out in public,
thisvidsuksmk 3 years ago
+ when people do say things such as you said over the internet, if it is reported, its written down for proof
thisvidsuksmk 3 years ago
Here's the simple truth. People on the internet say to you exactly what they would think to themselves if they passed you on the street. It's simply the fear of consequences that result in civil behavior. It's why we have police. With no consequences it would be a mad max kind of world. Internet > all. Deal with it.
likebeingon11 3 years ago
...and consequences is why the Internet will become just like the rest of the world. We create new social structures to EXTEND the world, not take it backwards. Deal with that.
tlg847 3 years ago
You going to be the thought police now? It's people with that kind of mindset that will have all of us living in a world like Minority Report. Fascism is alive and well I see. The downside is that experience has taught us the tighter you try to squeeze society the more it slips through your fingers.
likebeingon11 3 years ago
Who said thought police? You got thought police in your daily life? Fascism? Where'd that come from? Pre-crimes? Please. Experience has taught us that the perfect balance of freedom and structure works; absolutes in either direction = disaster.
tlg847 3 years ago
You're talking about adding consequences for people on the internet, and I really don't know how you plan to do that. You going to send cops to people's houses when they verbally assault each other online? The discussion is moot though. You're generation will be gone soon, and we wont have to bow down to those who obviously fear what they don't understand.
likebeingon11 3 years ago
You are an Idiot,your poor little feelings getting hurt on the internet or on the street will never make a difference. Suck it up. Long live the internet and all its negative comments.The right "you" have to be an ass on the internet is the same right everyone else has.You WILL NOT ever stop human nature! On the street or on the internet.You sir are a fool for thinking you can change Mankind from a Video message.I am sure this guy had the same words for the cop on the street as he did for you!
GASSERSCOTT 3 years ago
I'm not talking about feelings being hurt. You an anarchist in real life, or just when you can be anonymous? That's what I thought.
tlg847 3 years ago
You bring a very good point.
I've faced the differences by talking to some of my friends on the Internet and in real life face to face
Some people can take it seriously the way you behave on the internet and some dont. I understand that you said its not okay to have a split personal because of the Internet but to be honest, from time to time I do act foolish but I dont let the technology decide what I am. I am using the technology to decide what I am on the Internet in way.
Great vid.
TobiasRieper 3 years ago
Oh your getting popular on here ;)
Good work babe *hugs from the UK*
RockxChickx666 3 years ago
TL:DW
hamptonstreet 3 years ago 2
ur a douchebag
abffyiky123 3 years ago 2
abffyiky123, nice is that all you can say?
xlxMillerxlx 3 years ago
well done, i see where your coming from and i certainly agree with you
big0whopper 3 years ago
you raised the very important issue. Internet has both positive and negative impact on our lives. Many people are committing suicide with using the knowledge on the Internet.
It's very dangerous to discount the seriousness of the wrongs just because it's on the Internet.
WindDanceFilm 3 years ago
motherfucka they know where I live! now what! if they want to harm me I'll sue their asses, and if they want kill me, go right ahead, Heaven is waiting!!!!!!!!! I'd say the same damn thing to your face and EVERYONE else! The internet is one of the last free places we can go to speak the truth, or I'd be dead already speaking THE TRUTH if I was out in the REAL FAKE WORLD, and THANK GOD FOR THE INTERNET FROM THIS POLICED, STUPID SOCIETY HELL HOLE CALLED EARTH I LIVE IN FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!
animarevolution 3 years ago 5
It's all about anonymity. I'm 17 but I definitely feel where you're coming from, I may have grown up with the internet, but I most definitely agree that the lack of consequence online turns a bothering amount of people into jackasses.
I don't believe the internet needs to be policed, if that's what you were insinuating, but people need to speak and act with a lot more dignity and self respect.
Here's until we can throw punches through monitors.
UltraGamer53 3 years ago 5
I disagree... I'm one of those "good girls" that you were talking about... work-a-holic, mother, grandmother, wife, I homeschool my son, don't drink, don't smoke, don't party etc etc etc...but on here, I get to say what I want...be a little mischievious if I want to...nothing illegal or dangerous..just a little naughty!!!
As long as it stays "in the wires" and does not go into their personal domain...it should be ok to be a little naughty!
selinauno 3 years ago
I love your comment. "Mischievous" isn't the problem; "malicious" is. Can we tell the difference? Sure. If everyone kept "in the wires" we wouldn't have the kinds of problems we have here. That's why I believe we'll eventually extend the mechanisms that keep us in the wires elsewhere to the online domain as well. Thanks for a thoughtful viewpoint.
tlg847 3 years ago
Good one. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people, including me, are thinking the exact same thoughts - but unfortunately, the people who break rules of ethics and acts generally disrespectul towards everyone, doesn't really care what you say, and probably hasn't even watched this video.
lumigecko 3 years ago
Good video =] you are right, it should matter what people say on the internet and there are crimes commited using the internet which is ironic =]
I think some people hide behind the computer feeling safe so they think they can do what they want =]
10/10 x
RockxChickx666 3 years ago
Thanks for that. Hiding on the Internet will not last, it's just that we're early in the game and people mistake now for forever.
tlg847 3 years ago
Absolutely spot on. Sending you some love and big hugs - 'cos that's what I'd do if I met you in real life. ; D
TheMenna 3 years ago
Thanks very much. Bring on the hugs!
tlg847 3 years ago
excellent point
you verbalized something I have felt for a long, long time
onlywhenprovoked 3 years ago
Many thanks, much appreciated.
tlg847 3 years ago
are you lewis halls grandad
JordanComper 3 years ago
Not that I know of.
tlg847 3 years ago
Your right, you can disagree with a statement, idealogy or simply not like somebodies face without desceding into a stream of filth. A little more kindness and a lot less venting of personal insecurities would be nice.
SMoldie 3 years ago
It would, indeed. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
correct grammer and spelling would be nice as well, apologises for my lack of editing.:D
SMoldie 3 years ago
Certainly not a problem!
tlg847 3 years ago
Tell me the name of this new site then.
RockyDONUTHOLES 3 years ago
All in due time.
tlg847 3 years ago
I dont take things personally if its via YT comments, its just some idiot trying to be nasty cos they feel so insecure and worthless in the real world that they feel they have to project their frustrations out on here. But I think if you are nasty online then that speaks volumes about your REAL character anyway ;) Very good video indeed.
arvensis68 3 years ago
Sure, nasty comments aren't the issue. It's the threats that people have experienced that goes over the line and speaks loudly about cowardice and character. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
Thankfully I havent had that happen.......yet.
arvensis68 3 years ago
It's anonymity.
Anonymity + Audience = Jackass.
Sir, welcome to the internets.
JamesSokolove 3 years ago 2
Objective morality does not exist. God does not exist, or if both of them do, I do not care and existence is absurd. The order of the world outside the internet is maintained through the threat of brute force, the spontaneous subjective desire to help others, and the sickly desire of many christians and the like to be perceived as "good". Toughen up. Become hard. There are no police here in the internet, but no sticks and stones. The ressentiment exhibited by this man makes me want to vomit.
HerrSchweinchen 3 years ago
Resentment? That, my friend, is total projection. Good luck.
tlg847 3 years ago
u seem like a very intallignt man and i can undrastnd wher u r coming from
Voxerlite 3 years ago
the internet is an expansion of the world. and if on this world such things were permitted, violence would be a daily and normal thing to happen. and theres no way u have to "draw the line" , civilised ppl who have some common sense shouldnt act like that even on the internet. i hope u can make everyone understand that with your vids.
FreaperFTW 3 years ago