Gong back to first principles, the water column will reach a height where force up = force down. Force up = Pressure * surface area of nozzle. Force down = mass of water * gravity. Since the mass of water is volume * density which is height * surface area * density, we have surface area on both sides of the equation, it cancels out. Surface area is irrelevant. First year, first semester physics does it again.
The surface area does not matter. The water in the reservoir underneath the mass pressing down on it does not 'couple' laterally. Only the water directly under the nozzle exerts force. In fact there is a force exerted by the water not directly under the nozzle but it is a friction or drag that would tend to decrease, not increase the height of the water column.Common sense 101.
These are the things that happen when you have a Retard Creationist taking dictation directly from God.
Sometime you go to War in a crusade form God, or sometime you invent a Crocoduck or a Banana nightmare.
I wonder how Nephi got to that hypothesis without realizing that if the water goes higher than what the potential energy stored in the rock allows, he can solve all humanity energy problem by just inventing a machine the drops rock on water and use the extra energy for consumption.
Neph is just using god to get viewers. He is shamefull. He got busted watchin porn and callin escorts.He is a hypocrite....period.
Why defend him anymore.....He is engaging in activity clearly forbiden by god.Claiming to be a prophet.....Wake up neph fans...He is making all of you creationists look bad...Toss his sinfull ass aside and start anew.
If you back up his lies and junk science than you lose all credibility. Read these words folks and know that you have been told. Open your eyes...
This Nephilim guy is an obvious moron, but you guys aren't much better. Obviously, when you squeeze a garden hose, the water comes out faster and goes much farther. If water is so hard to squeeze through small apertures, as this video suggests, then why aren't straws the size of garden hoses? According to Atheists knowledge of science, water jet cutters shouldn't even exist.
You are the one who isn't much better if you even have to ask why a straw isn't the size of a garden hose and that this is "Atheists knowledge of science"
@LouisLeGros I clearly stated, "If water is so hard to squeeze through small apertures, as this video suggests, then why aren't straws the size of garden hoses?" What part about a logical implication don't you understand?
@LouisLeGros I clearly stated, "If water is so hard to squeeze through small apertures, as this video suggests, then why aren't straws the size of garden hoses?" What part about a logical implication do you not understand?
@IIXVXII Yeah, but it still only goes so far. Under high pressure a garden variety hose will get water far higher than a straw ever could. And jet cutters can't achieve anywhere near the height that is possible with a hose, let alone a drinks straw.
@ourben Tell me, how is it that a water jet cutter can eject water at speeds many times greater than that of a garden hose, but not go as high? Is there a different force of gravity acting on water jet cutters?
@IIXVXII What are you even talking about? What are you and NephilimFree smoking? Answer at least one of those questions, please. Because what you said read like playing scrabble on a landmine.
@ourben The obvious fallacy in this video is the fictious buoyancy of the earths crust that allows it to float. Clearly, a "floating crust" does not force water through constrictions like a sinking crust would, which "has to, must" push water out of the way to sink. What I find suspicious is that surely, the density of the "rock" must have been entered to run the simulation, which means, the video creater clearly entered a density for rock that is less than water. Why would that be?
@IIXVXII First off, the simulation hasn't completed. Second, the water level relative to the 'rock' says the the density is higher. Thirdly, it's probably not a very good physics engine. However, you need to realise the enormity of the flaws in Nephilim's hypothesis before even beginning to worry about inaccuracies in this single simulation.
There would need to be no atmosphere and no pressure drop out before it was even worth calculating how far short of the moon (very) the water would be.
@IIXVXII When you squeeze a garden hose the water HAS to increase its velocity because it is pumped into your home via huge industrial water pumps. Or it uses the force of gravity from a water tower. This is not analogous to Nephs theory of the earth spouting water out at the moon. 1) Because in that instance the water is acting against the force of gravity and 2) It has no external force, just its own pressure. The fact that people are not getting the difference is amazing..
@RickyPayneTV You obviously don't know what you're talking about. The earth's crust falling into the water exerts approximately a constant pressure on the water, just like the "industrial pumps" giving us garden hose water. The pressure actually slowly increases as the gravitational force on the crust increases as it falls due to the one over "r" squared relation of Newton's gravity.
@IIXVXII Ok, lets go with the rational line of thought, that the earth was split open by an all powerful god and water spunked into space causing the craters on the moon. And THEN god remade the earth so that no evidence of this cataclysmic geological event would be found. He covered it up, but wrote it in his book that he authored. Also, the water would have to have been propelled at such a force that huge moons of ice would form in distant planets. I am convinced.
@ourben I've decided I will make a video, because every video I've seen about this mythical fountain is wrong, including Thunderf00ts. I have yet to find one video that explains the physics correctly, so clearly, I will have to make one.
Let me first say, that I don't buy Neph's crap. Here's one question though. why does the rock float on the water in all of these simulations after the initial squirt? Again: just curious.
Can I ask how you did it? Was it a premade program or did you have to write it yourself? If so, you have my sincerest respect for programming this with a rather good approximation of the water behavior and the friction (which I know is not as easy as it looks).
I can't figure out why Nephy lets himself get stuck in this losing argument! He's simply wrong about the physics, but he doesn't understand it, so he'll never admit it.
The thing is... Why does God have to follow the laws of physics?? NephilimFree is pushing a story that includes supernatural forces and powers, right? So if God wanted the world to flood and ice to hit the moon, then dammit, there would be ice on the moon! Simple, isn't it?
great simulation! i notice the rocks not sinking all the way down. is it because you stooped the simulation before it finished? or is that suppose to happen? cuze I am sure creationist will bring that up too.
I'm wondering more whetehr the density difference would become a factor as surely the the rock weighed more per uunit volume the pressure on the water would be greater and it'd go much higher. Agreed not exponentially so. but it would be worth looking it. I'm not great at thermodynamics but would the temperature of the rocks make a difference. if the water was converted to steam it would be able to shoot out a lot higher due to lower density.
I am REALLY curious to see what excuse/argument Neph will come up with this time! I'm pretty sure he will at least try. The only way a person like him will actually admit that they are wrong is when... well, honestly, I don't think he will ever admit he is wrong! Even if his theory was recreated to the exact specification that he wanted, and he saw with his own eyes how impossible it is, he'd still come up with something ridiculous!
lol I could have imagined Neph's theory to be of some merit for like say about a mile into the air. But for 200,000+ miles to the moon? Laughable! I mean, did he ever notice how rockets require a CONSTANT thrust to be able to break the Earth's pull? 200,000 miles is a LONG time to be slowed down by gravity's constant downwards force.
What an over kill, LOL, or you could have just written out Bernoulli's equation for an incompressible fluid,... oh ya, Nephie-poo can't handle real physics and math.
Of course this will not make a least bit of difference for Neph, he'll just say your model is anti-science because of the great pressure of the rock above.
There was me crediting Neph with some brilliance... Brilliant stupidity, admittedly, but I'm disappointed to find out that it's just another case of supreme gullibility.
@UknowFeckAll Well not all atheist are scientist, but I'm pretty sure Thunderf00t has a background in science and education. Also he happens to be an atheist. Calling people scum because they don't have the same beleif as you isn't very nice. Or maybe I was just brought up to do unto others as I would have them do unto me. It's kind of a golden rule I uphold, but I know Christians and people of different faiths have different values so I'm sorry for judging you according to mine. Have a nice day
Neph doesn't have to account for natural laws because creationist say creation was done by a super natural being who created...well...everything... and can therefore break natural laws whenever he/she/it wants.
Now seriously, why do creationists have to try to "Scientifically" prove stuff?...I mean for most evangelicals all the proof they need is "god did it". They really shouldn't feel the need for science to validate their god because gods natures is ouside of natural laws and science.
Whether or not this could create comets crashing into the moon, there is something even more absurd with Nephy's theory. If the earth's crust was stationed on top of this layer of water up until the flood, what source of energy caused it to press down with sufficient force to push all the water out of the crevices? Enough water, mind you, to cap Mt. Everest. Does Nephy have ANY idea how much energy this would require, and what the consequence would have been for the inhabitants of the ark?
@UknowFeckAll If is unfortunate that the ignorant such as your self will eventually completely out populate the educated, intelligent people of this world. The end of the world will undoubtedly be a result of willful ignorance.
This is a reasonable accurate based on natural laws. This is about what you would see by doing this experiment in your backyard. Having a smaller hole does not magically create extra force.
Gong back to first principles, the water column will reach a height where force up = force down. Force up = Pressure * surface area of nozzle. Force down = mass of water * gravity. Since the mass of water is volume * density which is height * surface area * density, we have surface area on both sides of the equation, it cancels out. Surface area is irrelevant. First year, first semester physics does it again.
TerrencePhillip66 11 months ago
The surface area does not matter. The water in the reservoir underneath the mass pressing down on it does not 'couple' laterally. Only the water directly under the nozzle exerts force. In fact there is a force exerted by the water not directly under the nozzle but it is a friction or drag that would tend to decrease, not increase the height of the water column.Common sense 101.
TerrencePhillip66 11 months ago
Ah, Ulrich Schnauss. Great track.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
These are the things that happen when you have a Retard Creationist taking dictation directly from God.
Sometime you go to War in a crusade form God, or sometime you invent a Crocoduck or a Banana nightmare.
I wonder how Nephi got to that hypothesis without realizing that if the water goes higher than what the potential energy stored in the rock allows, he can solve all humanity energy problem by just inventing a machine the drops rock on water and use the extra energy for consumption.
JerezJulio 1 year ago
Neph is just using god to get viewers. He is shamefull. He got busted watchin porn and callin escorts.He is a hypocrite....period.
Why defend him anymore.....He is engaging in activity clearly forbiden by god.Claiming to be a prophet.....Wake up neph fans...He is making all of you creationists look bad...Toss his sinfull ass aside and start anew.
If you back up his lies and junk science than you lose all credibility. Read these words folks and know that you have been told. Open your eyes...
SecretAgentMan4life 1 year ago
This Nephilim guy is an obvious moron, but you guys aren't much better. Obviously, when you squeeze a garden hose, the water comes out faster and goes much farther. If water is so hard to squeeze through small apertures, as this video suggests, then why aren't straws the size of garden hoses? According to Atheists knowledge of science, water jet cutters shouldn't even exist.
IIXVXII 1 year ago
@IIXVXII
You are the one who isn't much better if you even have to ask why a straw isn't the size of a garden hose and that this is "Atheists knowledge of science"
LouisLeGros 1 year ago
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@LouisLeGros I clearly stated, "If water is so hard to squeeze through small apertures, as this video suggests, then why aren't straws the size of garden hoses?" What part about a logical implication don't you understand?
IIXVXII 1 year ago
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@LouisLeGros I clearly stated, "If water is so hard to squeeze through small apertures, as this video suggests, then why aren't straws the size of garden hoses?" What part about a logical implication do you not understand?
IIXVXII 1 year ago
@IIXVXII Yeah, but it still only goes so far. Under high pressure a garden variety hose will get water far higher than a straw ever could. And jet cutters can't achieve anywhere near the height that is possible with a hose, let alone a drinks straw.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Tell me, how is it that a water jet cutter can eject water at speeds many times greater than that of a garden hose, but not go as high? Is there a different force of gravity acting on water jet cutters?
IIXVXII 1 year ago
@IIXVXII What are you even talking about? What are you and NephilimFree smoking? Answer at least one of those questions, please. Because what you said read like playing scrabble on a landmine.
Oh, and Google inertia.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben The obvious fallacy in this video is the fictious buoyancy of the earths crust that allows it to float. Clearly, a "floating crust" does not force water through constrictions like a sinking crust would, which "has to, must" push water out of the way to sink. What I find suspicious is that surely, the density of the "rock" must have been entered to run the simulation, which means, the video creater clearly entered a density for rock that is less than water. Why would that be?
IIXVXII 1 year ago
@IIXVXII First off, the simulation hasn't completed. Second, the water level relative to the 'rock' says the the density is higher. Thirdly, it's probably not a very good physics engine. However, you need to realise the enormity of the flaws in Nephilim's hypothesis before even beginning to worry about inaccuracies in this single simulation.
There would need to be no atmosphere and no pressure drop out before it was even worth calculating how far short of the moon (very) the water would be.
ourben 1 year ago
@IIXVXII When you squeeze a garden hose the water HAS to increase its velocity because it is pumped into your home via huge industrial water pumps. Or it uses the force of gravity from a water tower. This is not analogous to Nephs theory of the earth spouting water out at the moon. 1) Because in that instance the water is acting against the force of gravity and 2) It has no external force, just its own pressure. The fact that people are not getting the difference is amazing..
RickyPayneTV 1 year ago
@RickyPayneTV You obviously don't know what you're talking about. The earth's crust falling into the water exerts approximately a constant pressure on the water, just like the "industrial pumps" giving us garden hose water. The pressure actually slowly increases as the gravitational force on the crust increases as it falls due to the one over "r" squared relation of Newton's gravity.
IIXVXII 1 year ago
@IIXVXII Ok, lets go with the rational line of thought, that the earth was split open by an all powerful god and water spunked into space causing the craters on the moon. And THEN god remade the earth so that no evidence of this cataclysmic geological event would be found. He covered it up, but wrote it in his book that he authored. Also, the water would have to have been propelled at such a force that huge moons of ice would form in distant planets. I am convinced.
RickyPayneTV 1 year ago
@IIXVXII Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and present some numbers so we can calculate how possible it is?
Or did you do it already and realise it's physically impossible?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben I've decided I will make a video, because every video I've seen about this mythical fountain is wrong, including Thunderf00ts. I have yet to find one video that explains the physics correctly, so clearly, I will have to make one.
IIXVXII 1 year ago
@IIXVXII I have no idea whose side you are on. Good luck all the same though.
ourben 1 year ago
@UknowFeckAll
That is his only response. He doesn't know what to say, he just knows he has to say something. He has no real rebuttal.
GT35R 1 year ago
Let me first say, that I don't buy Neph's crap. Here's one question though. why does the rock float on the water in all of these simulations after the initial squirt? Again: just curious.
truelazerlight 1 year ago
Great video!
Can I ask how you did it? Was it a premade program or did you have to write it yourself? If so, you have my sincerest respect for programming this with a rather good approximation of the water behavior and the friction (which I know is not as easy as it looks).
Thanks for uploading.
TheGeekySkeptic 1 year ago
I can't figure out why Nephy lets himself get stuck in this losing argument! He's simply wrong about the physics, but he doesn't understand it, so he'll never admit it.
The thing is... Why does God have to follow the laws of physics?? NephilimFree is pushing a story that includes supernatural forces and powers, right? So if God wanted the world to flood and ice to hit the moon, then dammit, there would be ice on the moon! Simple, isn't it?
And yet Nephy is too dumb to see it.
TheHogTieChamp 1 year ago
There's a job you could only trust in the objective hands of computer simulation.
You're always gonna get the one guy who wants to yell "2+2=5" at the top of his voice, it makes him no less right and a lot more irrational.
gavbag1234 1 year ago
great simulation! i notice the rocks not sinking all the way down. is it because you stooped the simulation before it finished? or is that suppose to happen? cuze I am sure creationist will bring that up too.
ccaptorchen 1 year ago
I'm wondering more whetehr the density difference would become a factor as surely the the rock weighed more per uunit volume the pressure on the water would be greater and it'd go much higher. Agreed not exponentially so. but it would be worth looking it. I'm not great at thermodynamics but would the temperature of the rocks make a difference. if the water was converted to steam it would be able to shoot out a lot higher due to lower density.
denty101 1 year ago
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denty101 1 year ago
For science!
Octoschizare 1 year ago
This! This is the demonstration I've been waiting to see. Excellent job, UniversumExNihilo.
joshkr 1 year ago 2
P.S. Nice tune, what is it?
Spetsop 1 year ago
I am REALLY curious to see what excuse/argument Neph will come up with this time! I'm pretty sure he will at least try. The only way a person like him will actually admit that they are wrong is when... well, honestly, I don't think he will ever admit he is wrong! Even if his theory was recreated to the exact specification that he wanted, and he saw with his own eyes how impossible it is, he'd still come up with something ridiculous!
Spetsop 1 year ago
Wouldn't water under that great of pressure not cause cavitation? Venturi effect?
SuperWhiskyTango 1 year ago
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Guess this means no debate.
iamgoddard 1 year ago
It's interesting, he never seemed to post my comment regarding the equations relating pressure, flow, nozzle diameter and velocity. Wonder why?
Mechanics: It works, bitches.
charliegamer 1 year ago
@charliegamer (He - referring to NephilimFree)
charliegamer 1 year ago
@charliegamer Same for me!
SuperWhiskyTango 1 year ago
@charliegamer Same for me, he does allow some negative posts but I think anything concrete is not.
SuperWhiskyTango 1 year ago
I think neph needs a lesson in basic physics. We learned about calculating and modelling systems like these with classical physics (Newton etc).
HorridDreams 1 year ago
lol I could have imagined Neph's theory to be of some merit for like say about a mile into the air. But for 200,000+ miles to the moon? Laughable! I mean, did he ever notice how rockets require a CONSTANT thrust to be able to break the Earth's pull? 200,000 miles is a LONG time to be slowed down by gravity's constant downwards force.
Clymaxx 1 year ago
What an over kill, LOL, or you could have just written out Bernoulli's equation for an incompressible fluid,... oh ya, Nephie-poo can't handle real physics and math.
Of course this will not make a least bit of difference for Neph, he'll just say your model is anti-science because of the great pressure of the rock above.
Remember people, lying for "jesus" isn't a sin
TheWingnuterer 1 year ago 13
Well done!
Boy75402 1 year ago
I dont always herp de derp. but when I do, god dun it
OpiatedBliss 1 year ago
NObody feed the @UknowFeckAll troll. Some christian has just started a troll account so that he can get his frustration out. . . It happens alot.
RickyPayneTV 1 year ago
That simulation is missing one important factor...
The hand of God.... ;)
RoadRunnerLaser 1 year ago
@RoadRunnerLaser I think jesus was surfing on the wave to the moon.
CivilNL 1 year ago
@CivilNL - Or snorting the same crap that Neph uses to come up with his ideas..
RoadRunnerLaser 1 year ago
@RoadRunnerLaser if i recall correctly, neph got the nozzle size idea from someone else's youtube comment...hard to snort those
compwhiz797 1 year ago
@compwhiz797 - Ahhhhh.... :(
There was me crediting Neph with some brilliance... Brilliant stupidity, admittedly, but I'm disappointed to find out that it's just another case of supreme gullibility.
RoadRunnerLaser 1 year ago
Fantastic work, I was trying to do this myself but could never find the right program.
RaymondCorrigan 1 year ago
@UknowFeckAll Well not all atheist are scientist, but I'm pretty sure Thunderf00t has a background in science and education. Also he happens to be an atheist. Calling people scum because they don't have the same beleif as you isn't very nice. Or maybe I was just brought up to do unto others as I would have them do unto me. It's kind of a golden rule I uphold, but I know Christians and people of different faiths have different values so I'm sorry for judging you according to mine. Have a nice day
galbijoe 1 year ago
Neph doesn't have to account for natural laws because creationist say creation was done by a super natural being who created...well...everything... and can therefore break natural laws whenever he/she/it wants.
Now seriously, why do creationists have to try to "Scientifically" prove stuff?...I mean for most evangelicals all the proof they need is "god did it". They really shouldn't feel the need for science to validate their god because gods natures is ouside of natural laws and science.
galbijoe 1 year ago 2
@UknowFeckAll
HERP A DERP I DUN CAN USE GRAMMUR AND SPULLING PROPRLY TO ARTICALATE MAH POINTZ
TheBrownestFalcon 1 year ago
Whether or not this could create comets crashing into the moon, there is something even more absurd with Nephy's theory. If the earth's crust was stationed on top of this layer of water up until the flood, what source of energy caused it to press down with sufficient force to push all the water out of the crevices? Enough water, mind you, to cap Mt. Everest. Does Nephy have ANY idea how much energy this would require, and what the consequence would have been for the inhabitants of the ark?
kafkaOTS 1 year ago
@UknowFeckAll If is unfortunate that the ignorant such as your self will eventually completely out populate the educated, intelligent people of this world. The end of the world will undoubtedly be a result of willful ignorance.
This is a reasonable accurate based on natural laws. This is about what you would see by doing this experiment in your backyard. Having a smaller hole does not magically create extra force.
JoshTheCommenter 1 year ago
@UknowFeckAll how is this not scientific? atheists dont make up the laws of physics dude. they apply to everyone.
ihmen 1 year ago 15
@ihmen True, atheist don't make laws of physics, does it mean this nf creationist can create his own laws of physics? THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.
gimmepassword 10 months ago