One thing I hate about all these tests is that they don't do enough runs. Anyone familiar with statastics knows that you need a decent sample size. I understand things are time limited for the show, but they should video a couple runs, and then do 8 or more so other runs off camera. Take the best of the 10 (or whatever number) and use that figure. EVERYONE's times will drop after a few runs, and it would eliminate the who "unfamiliarity" factor somewhat.
@bongborin Yea but in GT-R, computers do 50% of the driving. Without all the high-tech electronic systems that is uses, it wouldn't be as fast or as easy to drive. Thats why they said its not a real-supercar. Its too heavy and too dependent on the electronics to be able to use it as supercar on a racetrack. You cant drive consistently with it for a long time. But then again, GT-R, Gallardo and 911 Turbo would all shine on normal roads with bumps, and especially on dirty or wet roads.
@derbigpr500 to me, technology is technology. everyone draws the line differently and many will draw it when it comes to electronic interference. to me, though, every bit of car technology is designed to make a car faster. why draw the line at computers? if it's making the car faster, shouldn't it be embraced?
the skill cap may be lower, but isn't the whole point to have a faster car? shouldn't ease of driving be a good thing?
Uhhh people, paddle shifters are not part of an automatic transmission, it's just that Lamborghini's E-gear incorporates the two. And btw, the turbo would have been wayyy faster if it had been a manual, the Tiptronic S is the biggest piece of garbage Porsche has ever made.
People is so stupid when they say... An automatic supercar... Look at the Ferrari... its an automatic too... with Paddleshifters... and it is not slow... stupid people always makes stupid comments... and... who evolve paddle shifting to their races... Formula 1... evolved from... manual transmission to auto paddle shift differential transmission... in turn... of why it's auto..??? BECAUSE ITS FASTER...!!!!
would be nice to get a stock GTR to race these otherwise stock competitors.
Other test would be to put factory drivers in each car. Put a Corvette, Ferrari, Lambo, Nissan GTR, Honda and such with their own factory drivers. Let them all dyno each others car and put them on the same tires. Then let them fly. Oh yeah and one Porsche... no need for two.
would be nice to get a stock GTR to race these otherwise stock competitors.
Other test would be to put factory drivers in each car. Put a Corvette, Ferrari, Lambo, Nissan GTR, Honda and such with their own factory drivers. Let them all dyno each others car and put them on the same tires. Then let them fly.
@dsmdeegen Who are we?? Americans?? If we helped them that much, how come our technology is not even half of what theirs it?? Japan is great and next to none in technology, we are good in other things like talking trash and making fighter jets.
@dsmdeegen you'd better give money to rebuild your rubish car industry - war is a good excuse for your mediocrity - intelligent american (LOL) buy japanese cars
@xXcarm3laXx Italian sounds similar to the Spanish language, no accent wise.. but in the Spanish and Italian language, having two "L"s makes a "Ya" sound, thus Gayardo. Btw, it's spelled Garllardo.
@JSlShow It's Galardo. It's not Gayardo. You see - car isn't spanish, two l are simply l in italian, I dont know spanish, Lamborgini is Italian. Say it : GALARDO.
@xXcarm3laXx I just talked to someone in New York who is Italian and has the last name of Gallardo. I asked her how it's pronounced and she said "guy ahr doh". It's NOT gah lar doh. Say it: GUY AHR DOH
@xXcarm3laXx The car is Italian, but the name Gallardo is in spanish, and then the correct pronuntiation es similar a Gayardo, but it is not complety correct. The correct pronuntiation of the double "L" in standard spanish sound like in italiano il fonema "gli" por ejemplo "moglie" o in portugués "mulher"; es spanish "ll" sound like in italiano "gli" and portughese "lh".
@LonewolfSaichi What 600hp awd car does America have?? Not the z06 or ZR1 you need awd to hang w/ these beasts. America is ok going fast in a straight line, or left hand turns only.
@2ndtonone1000 I wouldn't even say that, vettes don't have much finesse/balance, most of it is in the "special" tires the ZR1 uses. Yes fast in a strait line, but it will oversteer on corner exits without it "special" tires.
@abenaway But on that track, a ZR1 couldnt hang. That car is faster than shit, but the awd Lambo can stomp on the gas out of the corners, the ZR1 would fight to find any form of traction! On a big track im sure a ZR1 would win, but on a circuit like this one I think AWD is the key (superior braking and corner exit traction).
@cxbra yeah I was thinking the same thing, not to mention they have a lot less seat time in American car like a ZR1 which demands seat time to get it's full potential. I'm waiting for the new Fuji race they have coming with the 12'GTR, LFA, ZR1, 911RS...but I watch some of the high lights & again they put the most exp. drivers in they're cars...which didn't make since, but this is a JP show so I'd expect some favoritism.
@philonetic Apparently, the new gtr this year gets 0-60 in 2.9, and the Nissan guys say it does the Nur in 7:20:xx range. The Nur times still have yet to be seen. And that's not the v spec version.
I have to rescind my comment, I discovered that the ZR1 never did a 7:22.4. It's referred to as the "Lord of the Rings" hoax. Some troll mass posting, so much so that official mags have used published their times.
ZR1 has 7:26.*, but that is with PTM off, where it gets 2mph more in the slalom with it on. GTR hitting 7:20 is a pipe dream for now, the whole evolution of the car from 8 years before the first public sale of it occurred on there getting faster every year. Some day.
@philonetic yeah I won't trust any Nur time till an outside regulated devision makes the same rules for every one. I mean everyone claiming their own time most of the time with a stop watch, and only a vid to prove it. Who know wut they have done to the car...or if they tweaked the vid. That'd be like sayin I can bench 500lbs & no one expects the weight & just excepts my video lol. It's all BS to me, maybe we'll see in time the truth.
@roybotnik Good argument, sorry to but in, but that's a diff story. Ur running the stickiest tires known to man which negates awd advantage kinda like the fastest car in a 1/4 top fuel car aren't awd...once u get so much traction awd starts to become a hinder due to weight, understeer etc. Also F1 cars have mad down force to keep the rear pressed to the ground, up doubling it's own weight in down force...awd is not needed ;-)
@cxbra you dont need 600 HP to be fast .... look to F1 for reference.. the ford GT, McLaren F1... (although british, the car itself was made in America and was inspired by the RWD NSX) the corvette z06 and Zr1 are also great contendors for these kinds of race.. If yout think america is all about going fast in a straight line, you need to reasses your knowledge in motor history and dig deeper into American racing history !!!
@tenjinnim research before you post, the 2005 f1s developed up to 980hp, the ford gt and mclaren f1 had almost 600hp and the gt was fast but mostly at the top end
@lambogallardo1000 i think ur comment is supposed to be directed to cxbra... wrong person... review before you post... and make sure its for the right person !! or atleast read correctly. your comment to mine doesnt make any sense !!
@dukviper90 you need to put things into context here... these guys are comparing GTR and gallardos and asking why there are no american cars. he was suggesting that american cars can only go in a straight line... and i proved him wrong by suggesting such cars that were built in america that can give u mind bending forces of grip !!
@tenjinnim MClaren, and Ferrari don't have your typical chassis's!! They're mid or rear engine rwd and thats all they want to work with so they pour all their money and engineering in making a rwd car handle amazingly which equates to the reason why they charged shit loads of money for it. GTR is simple. Good drivetrain + launch control, and spend all your money on engineering an epic awd system and suspension tuning while going cheap with everything else and you got yourself a monster.
@dukviper90 dood... ru just reading only my posts ? maybe u should read on what context i was talking about... im replying to someone who said no one makes good american cars that can drive fast ... (NOT only in a straight line) MOney and engineering aside, i gave you examples of american cars that can drive herra fast. EVEN if you wanted to compare with money ... look in the video, a Ford GT is about as much as a lambo gallardo and the porsche 911...
@Reduxalicious Thats why BMW's have been known as some of the best handling cars for years...I'd like to see one mustang that kicks bmw's ass on a track. Its so easy to spot clueless people on youtube who comment on car videos, but they dont actually know anything about cars. You've obviously never driven neither of those cars, or any car on a track yet. Its not all about lap times either, it about balance, feedback, the way car acts on the limit, the way car feels...its about driving pleasure.
It's obvious from your mass replys to everyone you're but-hurt by a lot of these comments, thanks for telling me it's easy to spot clueless people on youtube as you obviously are. Thanks for telling me what I have and haven't driven and THANKS for commenting on a comment that's 4 months old. It's obvious you're a but-hurt in someway shape or form.
The C6's are more than capable around a track, and the Z06 and ZR1 put down lap time comparable to all of the cars shown here. I'm not sure what you're getting at, other than repeating the same, tired, rhetoric that angsty teenagers have been repeating ever since they were old enough to play Gran Turismo.
@opmike343 On this track ZR1 is not as fast as the cars in this video, at least not when its completely stock.These guys tested the ZR1 as well, on this track, and it clocked slower times than Gallardo, GT-R and 458. The thing about ZR1 is, a lot of people only look at its nurburgring time, but they dont actually know that at Nurburgring ZR1 was driven on semi-slick tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup), with racing fuel and track setup, without those modifications it wouldn't be as fast as it was.
@opmike343 Also, know that Chevrolet, Nissan and Cadillac are the only mass manufacturers who released official Nurburgring lap times of their cars, nobody else does. The point is, Nurburgring isnt standardized, you cant compare lap times of lets say ZR1 or GT-R to F458 or Gallardo because one were driven stock by car journalists, other were driven in a track setup on track tires by pro test drivers. Until there are some standards by which cars are tested, those times are just pointless numbers.
I think what makes Best Motoring so special is nothing is staged, the battles are real, the performance and drivers are real. The evaluation of the cars is top notch, unlike some so called BBC motoring shows. Even the humour is really infectious and isn't staged, like it is in Top Gear, it truly makes you feel happy and laugh out loud. Especially Tsuchiya-san's laugh is just the best.
you think you know all better that these guys? why dont you just produce your own show. Then post it on youtube and we will judge the viewers on how good you really are.
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i dont give a fuck who he is, just because he can drift doesnt mean he is any good at setting a fast lap time, I just happen to be someone who has been racing for about 10 years at club level for fun, i know the difference between good and sloppy driving, what i saw was slopping driving
yes dip shit, club level events are open to kids of much younger than 12 in the UK, in none of my comments have i claimed to be an amazing driver or faster than the guy in the video or better, but i do know the difference between good and poor technique
@turkishcobra Never heard of kids 12 years old or younger racing in a club but if I don't know I won't contradict you, however... "that guy" like you call him... as I said he's world renowned to be "the drift king" and you say that he can't settle a fast lap time... please do the research and find out why he started drifting. He started drifting to entertain the crowd because at speed he had no match. Watch the drift bible series.
@turkishcobra hmmm since u just won't understand what ppl r trying to say using rational method... mayb using a radical way to explain it to u will b better, like using a simple equation! This Guy=The Drift King=One of the world's greatest drivers ever=Keiichi Tsuchiya...
@turkishcobra just another sample just incase if u still don't understand what we are trying to tell you...(retard+arrogant+uneducated+ignorant+fatuity+benighted+fatuous+bull shit+cock)*(I just happen to be someone who has been racing for about 10 years at club level for fun )=wanker... and wanker=you and sadly you=turkishcobra and a self claimed driving god... clearly u don't know the difference between good and sloppy driving
@turkishcobra if you don't understand, please keep you clap trap shut and show some respect for "this guy"... and then go back to your club lvl driving... thank you for your reluctant understanding and cooperation... and if u r unwilling to do so =.= i am afraid that, there is no one that can help you... you are what you are...
@turkishcobra Dude sloopy driving? In a supercar battle? Are u nuts? Have u gone bonkers? HELLO i repair cars and i OBVIOUSLY know if u mess with a supercar u will die n his NOT only a drift king his a Super GT driver n if u call that sloopy i bet u cant even start a stupid china car properly cant even change gear u dickhead and may i ask... what car r u driving so that u can call a Drifting God a sloppy driver
Maybe b/c I don't care too much for the base GTR, or that "I'm reading too much into it" or watching I guess u can say; but I find it odd for one this GTR ran faster than the Spec-V did on this track, & two that the Lambo driver so happens to get a freakin 1 sec late start, spins the tires horribly even after he ran consistant start the prior 2 races, & then misses a shift in a DSG box car when he happens to be racing the GTR all this coming from a Japan test group. Anyone else see my concern?
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Sorry but those cars are slow, American cars are faster, better and more reliable and cheaper. The Camaro and Mustang will beat all those stupid cars. If you dont buy american then you are supporting terrorism, fact.
Its true they are using it for development, same as toyota is using the lexus lfa to develop new ways of building cars even at 300,000 they are still losing money and the veyron it may be worth 1.5 mil but it cost upwards of 5 million to build.
@JesusChristRulesYOU What? A Camaro and Mustang can beat a GTR P Turbo GT3 and the Superlegeda? Ur another bonkers? More reliable? Dude seriously if u do NOT know about their cars horsepower performance and reliability plz do not post rubbish comment about ur stupid knowledge on cars and even a Camaro or Mustang can beat them... thats in drag racing and not in a track.... Fools bunch of act smarts about cars knowledge
@gdcastro03 Wanna try calling a people retarded when u do not even know basic car foundation? Plz read up about how different cars are made THEn u call a real car player a noob dipshit
Go put your kids on the back seat of the lambo... Ops, there's no way. GT-R has a lot more space in it, it feels solid and it weights on its place. Lambo is truly a beast, but come on... you can't drive this bull*hit in the city. GT-R is waaay better for the normal user :) Not to mention that it can be easily tuned to 900hp which will make huuuuge success in drag racing.
Ok, you're right I'm not exactly right on that matter, but it can be tuned to 800HP for 13000 euro, if you don't believe me... kill yourself, or just check Switzer's website. There are many videos of 800hp R35s here on youtube, see what that monster does :)
now that sound better , still the GT-R has a back seat, a V6( economical? haha) ,itseasy to use, its not at sharp as a gallardo would be every day .. its a better all rounder, but i dont have kids , i dont care id have the gallardo i love that V10 sound
changed my view of the GTR. Nissan screwed us with the weight of the car, almost 4000 pounds? that's Bently territory!
xThatGuyZ 1 month ago
lmfao a horn battle LOLS
TheJamesPark 4 months ago
it says the NSX-R weighs 120KG...lol :D
Showtek100 5 months ago
One thing I hate about all these tests is that they don't do enough runs. Anyone familiar with statastics knows that you need a decent sample size. I understand things are time limited for the show, but they should video a couple runs, and then do 8 or more so other runs off camera. Take the best of the 10 (or whatever number) and use that figure. EVERYONE's times will drop after a few runs, and it would eliminate the who "unfamiliarity" factor somewhat.
opmike343 6 months ago
The Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera is
900 pounds lighter than the GT-R.
Only if the GT-R lose that 900 pounds!!
bongborin 6 months ago
@bongborin Yea but in GT-R, computers do 50% of the driving. Without all the high-tech electronic systems that is uses, it wouldn't be as fast or as easy to drive. Thats why they said its not a real-supercar. Its too heavy and too dependent on the electronics to be able to use it as supercar on a racetrack. You cant drive consistently with it for a long time. But then again, GT-R, Gallardo and 911 Turbo would all shine on normal roads with bumps, and especially on dirty or wet roads.
derbigpr500 2 months ago
@derbigpr500 to me, technology is technology. everyone draws the line differently and many will draw it when it comes to electronic interference. to me, though, every bit of car technology is designed to make a car faster. why draw the line at computers? if it's making the car faster, shouldn't it be embraced?
the skill cap may be lower, but isn't the whole point to have a faster car? shouldn't ease of driving be a good thing?
LOLHICRONO 2 weeks ago
gotta love the horn test
caquillo07 6 months ago
20:59 LMFAO
rustyrobato93 7 months ago
No ZR-1?
MMX3SE 8 months ago
17 people cant afford these cars...same goes to the 275 others..
shobin05 8 months ago
man, this is a great show and these guys are such knowledgeable and experienced car guys.
epik151 9 months ago
GTR, the best all round practical car ever made.
tedzone01 9 months ago
guys I knom that is an automatic, but with this porsche-automatic U can shift faster than every human with manual gearbox, I just mean that
elbotron 9 months ago
love the gallardo
cardude1992 10 months ago
horn battle you wouldn't get that anywhere else
boutxthatxtime 10 months ago
NSX-R lapping Tsukuba in 1:04.3???
BerryA86 11 months ago
Uhhh people, paddle shifters are not part of an automatic transmission, it's just that Lamborghini's E-gear incorporates the two. And btw, the turbo would have been wayyy faster if it had been a manual, the Tiptronic S is the biggest piece of garbage Porsche has ever made.
zepheadGT3 11 months ago
People is so stupid when they say... An automatic supercar... Look at the Ferrari... its an automatic too... with Paddleshifters... and it is not slow... stupid people always makes stupid comments... and... who evolve paddle shifting to their races... Formula 1... evolved from... manual transmission to auto paddle shift differential transmission... in turn... of why it's auto..??? BECAUSE ITS FASTER...!!!!
TzV357 11 months ago
Awesome review of the cars that were shown in the video. These guys can drive.
usforeignpolicy 11 months ago
would be nice to get a stock GTR to race these otherwise stock competitors.
Other test would be to put factory drivers in each car. Put a Corvette, Ferrari, Lambo, Nissan GTR, Honda and such with their own factory drivers. Let them all dyno each others car and put them on the same tires. Then let them fly. Oh yeah and one Porsche... no need for two.
eturbo924 11 months ago
would be nice to get a stock GTR to race these otherwise stock competitors.
Other test would be to put factory drivers in each car. Put a Corvette, Ferrari, Lambo, Nissan GTR, Honda and such with their own factory drivers. Let them all dyno each others car and put them on the same tires. Then let them fly.
eturbo924 11 months ago
@leanlifter Dude you are so fucking illiterate I can't understand shit what you're saying, you just said drift is gay, so now is good? What the fuck?
H3Av3N2233 11 months ago
@leanlifter
nascar is gay
yenno why?
cuz all u do is drive in circles
no skills required
while drifting takes 100% concentration and skill
takumi1271 11 months ago
@leanlifter "drift is gay" Wow... Then what do you think is not gay then, leanlifter "smartass" the racer?
H3Av3N2233 1 year ago
@leanlifter drag is gay, involves no skill.
REPOMAN24722 1 year ago
porsches are proved lame great.
aegirer 1 year ago
who watched the whole thing
jerryjjk4 1 year ago
That horn test was hella funny Poor NSX-R, sounds like an econobox
z06camaro 1 year ago
at 1:56 "Hiye" means fast.... "Hiye Hehe" (high pitch excited vioce) means really fast lol
8menz 1 year ago
i see 12 corvette fan boys has watched this video lol
italomopar 1 year ago
I love GT-R it just looks sexy and I think it one of the best cars ever!
ElVaqu3rito 1 year ago
@ElVaqu3rito agreed
tanmyman777 1 year ago
The commentator on 11:00 NSX-R vs Porsche, he called the GT-3 a 911 Turbo....
KPAracing 1 year ago
change that fucking anr ( white thing) to a f430 !
then this fucking movie would been perfect !
oudbrakkenstein 1 year ago
والله سيارة مرة سريعة وجميلة
faisal12325 1 year ago
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I masturbated to this video
hapidjus69 1 year ago
Fuck that Gallardo is faaast!
NebunLaCap 1 year ago
Damn the Gallardo is faast
NebunLaCap 1 year ago
Horn BAttle
sickbro91 1 year ago
Awesome! I was for the Gallardo.
blackhole522 1 year ago
Where would japan be without world war 2......We gave to much technology to help rebuild there infrastructure.
dsmdeegen 1 year ago
@dsmdeegen Who are we?? Americans?? If we helped them that much, how come our technology is not even half of what theirs it?? Japan is great and next to none in technology, we are good in other things like talking trash and making fighter jets.
ebradahusla 1 year ago
@dsmdeegen you'd better give money to rebuild your rubish car industry - war is a good excuse for your mediocrity - intelligent american (LOL) buy japanese cars
jamecontent 1 year ago
@dsmdeegen bottom line is that America makes shit cars where Japan and Europe make supercars :D
M1st4T 1 year ago
@irshad6595
exactly, and he's losing time by shufflin his feet from left to right.
all i know is in F1 they break with left, cuz that way they can get back on the throttle immidiately.
kirillcereal32 1 year ago
if he's such a pro why is he breaking with his right foot??????
kirillcereal32 1 year ago
@kirillcereal32 Sometimes they need to do that for quicker braking time... Even a split second of slow breaking can slow down the time.
irshad6595 1 year ago
20:00 funny
VID650 1 year ago
The NSX is only 120kg O_O... Did anybody notice the typo too?
jhaqastar 1 year ago
Why were they shortshifting the gt3?
sexyrawr 1 year ago
these videos are so biased. probably next theyll show a stock gtr beating a veyron
bri343 1 year ago
It's GALARDO and not gaiardo. Same with german Porsche - it is not Portia. Stupid.
xXcarm3laXx 1 year ago
@xXcarm3laXx Italian sounds similar to the Spanish language, no accent wise.. but in the Spanish and Italian language, having two "L"s makes a "Ya" sound, thus Gayardo. Btw, it's spelled Garllardo.
JSlShow 1 year ago
@JSlShow It's Galardo. It's not Gayardo. You see - car isn't spanish, two l are simply l in italian, I dont know spanish, Lamborgini is Italian. Say it : GALARDO.
xXcarm3laXx 1 year ago
@xXcarm3laXx I just talked to someone in New York who is Italian and has the last name of Gallardo. I asked her how it's pronounced and she said "guy ahr doh". It's NOT gah lar doh. Say it: GUY AHR DOH
TheSmoonge 1 year ago
@xXcarm3laXx It's pronounced as Gayardo, 2 'L's are Y.. Like Reventon, pronounced as Rebenton.
irshad6595 1 year ago
@xXcarm3laXx The car is Italian, but the name Gallardo is in spanish, and then the correct pronuntiation es similar a Gayardo, but it is not complety correct. The correct pronuntiation of the double "L" in standard spanish sound like in italiano il fonema "gli" por ejemplo "moglie" o in portugués "mulher"; es spanish "ll" sound like in italiano "gli" and portughese "lh".
33INVICTA 1 year ago
@33INVICTA no one cares
JeepJohn92 1 year ago
@JeepJohn92 a mi si
33INVICTA 1 year ago
Gee, I wonder why there were no American make cars? Hmm....
LonewolfSaichi 1 year ago
@LonewolfSaichi What 600hp awd car does America have?? Not the z06 or ZR1 you need awd to hang w/ these beasts. America is ok going fast in a straight line, or left hand turns only.
cxbra 1 year ago 17
@cxbra haha that was a rhetorical question. but i think we all can agree why there aren't any American cars in this challenge.
LonewolfSaichi 1 year ago
@LonewolfSaichi mainly because these are all AWD cars. I know you Vette guys tend to think the ZR1 is the second coming of christ but come on.
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 haha I'm not really one for the vette, i admire it but honestly i would stick with the JDM monsters.
LonewolfSaichi 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 I wouldn't even say that, vettes don't have much finesse/balance, most of it is in the "special" tires the ZR1 uses. Yes fast in a strait line, but it will oversteer on corner exits without it "special" tires.
z06camaro 1 year ago
@cxbra I dont know about that watch every shootout with the ZR1 it smokes the GT-R, as well as the lambos
abenaway 11 months ago
@abenaway But on that track, a ZR1 couldnt hang. That car is faster than shit, but the awd Lambo can stomp on the gas out of the corners, the ZR1 would fight to find any form of traction! On a big track im sure a ZR1 would win, but on a circuit like this one I think AWD is the key (superior braking and corner exit traction).
cxbra 9 months ago
@cxbra not all the time... most of the time I see that awd cars underseer a lot more than a rwd
hernandadmx 9 months ago
@cxbra yeah I was thinking the same thing, not to mention they have a lot less seat time in American car like a ZR1 which demands seat time to get it's full potential. I'm waiting for the new Fuji race they have coming with the 12'GTR, LFA, ZR1, 911RS...but I watch some of the high lights & again they put the most exp. drivers in they're cars...which didn't make since, but this is a JP show so I'd expect some favoritism.
MaxwellReviresco 9 months ago
@cxbra
river Jan Magnussen, a race car driver from Denmark and a GM factory driver, took the Corvette ZR1 around the Nordschleife in 7:22.4.
GTR has 7:24.4.
philonetic 11 months ago
@philonetic Apparently, the new gtr this year gets 0-60 in 2.9, and the Nissan guys say it does the Nur in 7:20:xx range. The Nur times still have yet to be seen. And that's not the v spec version.
carmodifire 11 months ago
@carmodifire
I have to rescind my comment, I discovered that the ZR1 never did a 7:22.4. It's referred to as the "Lord of the Rings" hoax. Some troll mass posting, so much so that official mags have used published their times.
ZR1 has 7:26.*, but that is with PTM off, where it gets 2mph more in the slalom with it on. GTR hitting 7:20 is a pipe dream for now, the whole evolution of the car from 8 years before the first public sale of it occurred on there getting faster every year. Some day.
philonetic 11 months ago
@philonetic True. But in the end, the winners are the consumers, aka rich people. Technology always getting better.
carmodifire 11 months ago
@philonetic yeah I won't trust any Nur time till an outside regulated devision makes the same rules for every one. I mean everyone claiming their own time most of the time with a stop watch, and only a vid to prove it. Who know wut they have done to the car...or if they tweaked the vid. That'd be like sayin I can bench 500lbs & no one expects the weight & just excepts my video lol. It's all BS to me, maybe we'll see in time the truth.
MaxwellReviresco 9 months ago 4
@cxbra lol..... SSE!!!!!!
eeeen321 11 months ago 3
@cxbra Yeah, you need AWD to go fast. That's why F1 cars are AWD right?
roybotnik 9 months ago
@roybotnik Good argument, sorry to but in, but that's a diff story. Ur running the stickiest tires known to man which negates awd advantage kinda like the fastest car in a 1/4 top fuel car aren't awd...once u get so much traction awd starts to become a hinder due to weight, understeer etc. Also F1 cars have mad down force to keep the rear pressed to the ground, up doubling it's own weight in down force...awd is not needed ;-)
MaxwellReviresco 9 months ago
@cxbra corvette has won at le mans and numerous other gt races. and they had to decrease horsepower so porsche ferrari and audi could keep up.
cliche saying from douchebags like you who think they understand cars.
21scuderia 9 months ago
@cxbra you dont need 600 HP to be fast .... look to F1 for reference.. the ford GT, McLaren F1... (although british, the car itself was made in America and was inspired by the RWD NSX) the corvette z06 and Zr1 are also great contendors for these kinds of race.. If yout think america is all about going fast in a straight line, you need to reasses your knowledge in motor history and dig deeper into American racing history !!!
tenjinnim 8 months ago
@tenjinnim research before you post, the 2005 f1s developed up to 980hp, the ford gt and mclaren f1 had almost 600hp and the gt was fast but mostly at the top end
lambogallardo1000 8 months ago
@lambogallardo1000 i think ur comment is supposed to be directed to cxbra... wrong person... review before you post... and make sure its for the right person !! or atleast read correctly. your comment to mine doesnt make any sense !!
tenjinnim 8 months ago
@tenjinnim Yes but AWD decent motor and suspension is much cheaper than a mclaren or ford GT.
dukviper90 7 months ago
@dukviper90 you need to put things into context here... these guys are comparing GTR and gallardos and asking why there are no american cars. he was suggesting that american cars can only go in a straight line... and i proved him wrong by suggesting such cars that were built in america that can give u mind bending forces of grip !!
tenjinnim 7 months ago
@dukviper90 and what car would u suggest that is AWD + decent motor + suspension
cuz i can suggest even more cars if we want to talk about cheap !!!
tenjinnim 7 months ago
@tenjinnim MClaren, and Ferrari don't have your typical chassis's!! They're mid or rear engine rwd and thats all they want to work with so they pour all their money and engineering in making a rwd car handle amazingly which equates to the reason why they charged shit loads of money for it. GTR is simple. Good drivetrain + launch control, and spend all your money on engineering an epic awd system and suspension tuning while going cheap with everything else and you got yourself a monster.
dukviper90 7 months ago
@dukviper90 dood... ru just reading only my posts ? maybe u should read on what context i was talking about... im replying to someone who said no one makes good american cars that can drive fast ... (NOT only in a straight line) MOney and engineering aside, i gave you examples of american cars that can drive herra fast. EVEN if you wanted to compare with money ... look in the video, a Ford GT is about as much as a lambo gallardo and the porsche 911...
tenjinnim 7 months ago
@tenjinnim You should really learn to summarize your posts into one posts so it doesn't get confusing. This you tube comment interface kinda sucks.
dukviper90 7 months ago
@dukviper90 so tell me how the ford Gt, z06 and zr1 isnt in their class range ? and trust me htey are fast not only in a straight line...
tenjinnim 7 months ago
@cxbra i meant to say you dont need AWD to be fast... look to F1
tenjinnim 8 months ago
@cxbra fuck your AWD cars
amerblowsuup 7 months ago
@cxbra Tell that to the Mustang's that are kicking BMW's ass on the Circuit track...
Reduxalicious 7 months ago
@Reduxalicious Thats why BMW's have been known as some of the best handling cars for years...I'd like to see one mustang that kicks bmw's ass on a track. Its so easy to spot clueless people on youtube who comment on car videos, but they dont actually know anything about cars. You've obviously never driven neither of those cars, or any car on a track yet. Its not all about lap times either, it about balance, feedback, the way car acts on the limit, the way car feels...its about driving pleasure.
derbigpr500 2 months ago
It's obvious from your mass replys to everyone you're but-hurt by a lot of these comments, thanks for telling me it's easy to spot clueless people on youtube as you obviously are. Thanks for telling me what I have and haven't driven and THANKS for commenting on a comment that's 4 months old. It's obvious you're a but-hurt in someway shape or form.
Reduxalicious 2 months ago
@cxbra
The C6's are more than capable around a track, and the Z06 and ZR1 put down lap time comparable to all of the cars shown here. I'm not sure what you're getting at, other than repeating the same, tired, rhetoric that angsty teenagers have been repeating ever since they were old enough to play Gran Turismo.
opmike343 6 months ago
@opmike343 On this track ZR1 is not as fast as the cars in this video, at least not when its completely stock.These guys tested the ZR1 as well, on this track, and it clocked slower times than Gallardo, GT-R and 458. The thing about ZR1 is, a lot of people only look at its nurburgring time, but they dont actually know that at Nurburgring ZR1 was driven on semi-slick tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup), with racing fuel and track setup, without those modifications it wouldn't be as fast as it was.
derbigpr500 2 months ago
@opmike343 Also, know that Chevrolet, Nissan and Cadillac are the only mass manufacturers who released official Nurburgring lap times of their cars, nobody else does. The point is, Nurburgring isnt standardized, you cant compare lap times of lets say ZR1 or GT-R to F458 or Gallardo because one were driven stock by car journalists, other were driven in a track setup on track tires by pro test drivers. Until there are some standards by which cars are tested, those times are just pointless numbers.
derbigpr500 2 months ago
@LonewolfSaichi Just say ZR1, there's nothing else american worth mentioning.
vk45de 1 year ago
@vk45de Ah, true.
LonewolfSaichi 1 year ago
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This is how to compare cars!! I hope people who post pointless straight line drag race videos can learn how to drive car from this.
Sitti2300 1 year ago
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Sitti2300 1 year ago
mustang or camaro cant even take out taxis...
trackbark 1 year ago
NSX-R defeats a 911 Turbo yeah!!
Greetings from slow Germany xDD
Manner1a 1 year ago
I love the horn test. gotta see that more offten.
stormferd1 1 year ago
I like the vide but I just dont like how japanese sounds....not as nice as chinese...HAE!!! WHATTASHE!!! wtf
Mr0ro 1 year ago
This show is awesome, better than that significant other one imo, though I like both.
ssolitare 1 year ago
9:59 That's not fare, the NSX-R is 120kg only
allatt123 1 year ago
I think what makes Best Motoring so special is nothing is staged, the battles are real, the performance and drivers are real. The evaluation of the cars is top notch, unlike some so called BBC motoring shows. Even the humour is really infectious and isn't staged, like it is in Top Gear, it truly makes you feel happy and laugh out loud. Especially Tsuchiya-san's laugh is just the best.
Timbervanduijvenbode 1 year ago
The porsches had shitty PS2 run-flat tires not pilot sport cups or real performance tires.
porschturb 1 year ago
rofl in 5:35 is like the gtr gonna fight the 4 other cars in a handicap lmao
GrandMasterBison 1 year ago
what a GREAT review! These guys are the best
The horn and getting-passed-by contests were silly, but i really liked it !
frincho 1 year ago
At 5:35
It's like the four car are waiting for the GTR saying:
-Alright, let's see what you got, Mr GTR.
-Bring it on!
thaik56 1 year ago
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It's Beautiful car, very strong, I LOVE THIS CAR (IT'S MY BEST CAR)
Nissan GT-R the best car in the world.
All thanks to those who prepare the Video
All thanks to those who make a Nissan GT-R car :)
Greetings
Escada,
escada600 1 year ago
i love seeing the nsx-r pushed in races
coldinfusion 1 year ago
@coldinfusion keiichi would push it even more... he could beat the 2 porsches
gpower88 1 year ago
I know they wanted to embarrass the P Turbo, but dont be so obvious. An automatic Turbo, I mean, really?
LAvision 1 year ago 21
@LAvision i mean it has a tiptronic mode, so it wouldnt be too bad, but they didnt use it
TophaLopha1215 11 months ago
@LAvision On top of that he looked like a fool driving the porche . It must be hard to drive a porche for the first time. GTR is a beast!!!
markcrazy99 11 months ago
@LAvision U idiot, thats not a automatic, read sometime what the gearshift is, and than U know that this gearbox is faster than the manual, U idiot
elbotron 9 months ago
@elbotron Porsche's Tiptronic is an automatic transmission, you inbreed.
LAvision 9 months ago
@elbotron Its an automatic transmission dude.
KhidirD2K 9 months ago
omg i dont no that there are so many fastest cars. dont understand what they say
hyperman582 1 year ago
I'm very pleased to see the NSX finishing ahead of the 911 turbo!
What a car!
And, I might add, the GTR had the best driver!
pedronetomoreira 1 year ago
@pedronetomoreira
LOL this show is rigged.
The 996 turbo even has a faster lap time than the NSX, and better handling, yet the newer 997 turbo which has 4wd and is faster doesn't?
Not to mention they didn't specify the tires on the turbo. Out of all the cars on this show, both GTR and Porsche have the best handling.
Also, the turbo launches the fastest (not flooring from 0 you nubs, but launching) @ 2.8 seconds 0-60.
Jamzkangster 1 year ago 2
With the subtitles it's awesome ! Thanks a lot for posting ! =D
Sagitarius2501 1 year ago
SUCK MY VAGINA JAPAN
saweet999 1 year ago
all pussies say that
Tsparkdriver 1 year ago
@saweet999
i will
coldinfusion 1 year ago
lol he is going out with a tunned GT at the begining
InitialDAmine 1 year ago
japanese always bias....hate watching this
starcraftbw 1 year ago
@turkishcobra
you think you know all better that these guys? why dont you just produce your own show. Then post it on youtube and we will judge the viewers on how good you really are.
juszap 1 year ago
the 911 turbo driver keep cornering at 2500 to 3000 rpm, like downtown driving.
halim181276 1 year ago
electronics delveloped by polyphony digital for the gtr?
and then people wonder why the gran turismo series is called "the real driving simulator"
FrmFrstToLast 1 year ago
i love the 20:20 part... horn battle... lol.. the NSX horn sounded like a toy :) hahaha.. but hey, i love NSX-R.. my dream car :)
vi0007 1 year ago
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not to mention the hands coming off the wheel and general sloppy driving, this guy doesnt even deserve to drive a GT-R
turkishcobra 1 year ago
"This guy" Happens to be "The Drift King" Keiichi Tsuchiya. Little tip: he isn't called the Drift King for no reason.
H3Av3N2233 1 year ago 52
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i dont give a fuck who he is, just because he can drift doesnt mean he is any good at setting a fast lap time, I just happen to be someone who has been racing for about 10 years at club level for fun, i know the difference between good and sloppy driving, what i saw was slopping driving
turkishcobra 1 year ago
@turkishcobra Oh, so you've been racing since 12? Lol, fucking liar =))
H3Av3N2233 1 year ago
yes dip shit, club level events are open to kids of much younger than 12 in the UK, in none of my comments have i claimed to be an amazing driver or faster than the guy in the video or better, but i do know the difference between good and poor technique
turkishcobra 1 year ago
@turkishcobra Never heard of kids 12 years old or younger racing in a club but if I don't know I won't contradict you, however... "that guy" like you call him... as I said he's world renowned to be "the drift king" and you say that he can't settle a fast lap time... please do the research and find out why he started drifting. He started drifting to entertain the crowd because at speed he had no match. Watch the drift bible series.
H3Av3N2233 1 year ago
@turkishcobra
better drink you milk and get some sleep you need all of those before getting all your GODLY TECHNIQUES :D
juszap 1 year ago
@turkishcobra
do some research on his accomplishments before you give crappy comments about this guy.
juszap 1 year ago
@turkishcobra hmmm since u just won't understand what ppl r trying to say using rational method... mayb using a radical way to explain it to u will b better, like using a simple equation! This Guy=The Drift King=One of the world's greatest drivers ever=Keiichi Tsuchiya...
iFumoffu 1 year ago
@turkishcobra just another sample just incase if u still don't understand what we are trying to tell you...(retard+arrogant+uneducated+ignorant+fatuity+benighted+fatuous+bull shit+cock)*(I just happen to be someone who has been racing for about 10 years at club level for fun )=wanker... and wanker=you and sadly you=turkishcobra and a self claimed driving god... clearly u don't know the difference between good and sloppy driving
iFumoffu 1 year ago
@turkishcobra if you don't understand, please keep you clap trap shut and show some respect for "this guy"... and then go back to your club lvl driving... thank you for your reluctant understanding and cooperation... and if u r unwilling to do so =.= i am afraid that, there is no one that can help you... you are what you are...
iFumoffu 1 year ago
@turkishcobra Dude sloopy driving? In a supercar battle? Are u nuts? Have u gone bonkers? HELLO i repair cars and i OBVIOUSLY know if u mess with a supercar u will die n his NOT only a drift king his a Super GT driver n if u call that sloopy i bet u cant even start a stupid china car properly cant even change gear u dickhead and may i ask... what car r u driving so that u can call a Drifting God a sloppy driver
MrLolx2u 1 year ago
@turkishcobra Cool...let me know when you make a cameo in a movie..or be a consultant for a TV show or Toyota builds a car specifically for you...
ae86takumi 1 year ago
@turkishcobra.
It will take light years for you to become better than tsuchiya.
juszap 1 year ago
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im sorry but this guy is sposed to be a test drive and he doesnt evn left foot break on an auto car!? what a wanker
turkishcobra 1 year ago
i dont get it....is there some guidelines that says youre suppose to do that or you get disqualified?
and what the shit is a "wanker"???
FrmFrstToLast 1 year ago
this video is an advertising for the gt-r but it doesn't matter, I enjoyed the horn battle and the "getting passed" test.
carl206rc 1 year ago
Maybe b/c I don't care too much for the base GTR, or that "I'm reading too much into it" or watching I guess u can say; but I find it odd for one this GTR ran faster than the Spec-V did on this track, & two that the Lambo driver so happens to get a freakin 1 sec late start, spins the tires horribly even after he ran consistant start the prior 2 races, & then misses a shift in a DSG box car when he happens to be racing the GTR all this coming from a Japan test group. Anyone else see my concern?
MaxwellReviresco 2 years ago
This TA in the stock GTR ran faster than the Spev V did on their other vid by roughly half a second. hmm.
MaxwellReviresco 2 years ago
I wonder how the Carrera GT would behave in this battle.
LiquidEvolva 2 years ago
I guess the Lambo driver didn't get the memo that he was supposed to slow down.
rsx123 2 years ago
Great video.
Juniorain 2 years ago 3
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Sorry but those cars are slow, American cars are faster, better and more reliable and cheaper. The Camaro and Mustang will beat all those stupid cars. If you dont buy american then you are supporting terrorism, fact.
JesusChristRulesYOU 2 years ago
hahahhahaha your an ass!
DONNYBOYY28 2 years ago
Are you really that stupid? You seriously think a Mustang or a Camaro can can beat these cars.
maniacoffroader 2 years ago 93
@maniacoffroader a dacia sandero can... and im not joking
JLchevz 1 year ago
so you have to pay 3 times more to be 1 sec faster??? seriously... lambo FAIL!
if a japanese car manufacturer would build a car in this pricing level it would be as fast as a f1 car!
gpower88 1 year ago
@gpower88
The GTR cost just as much as the lambos to build, nissan is losing money buy building this car.
maniacoffroader 1 year ago
@maniacoffroader you're an idiot!
gpower88 1 year ago
@gpower88
How am I an idiot its true.
maniacoffroader 1 year ago
@maniacoffroader no product's selling price is under the production price... how stupid is that? you cant be serious on what you say!
gpower88 1 year ago
@gpower88
Its true they are using it for development, same as toyota is using the lexus lfa to develop new ways of building cars even at 300,000 they are still losing money and the veyron it may be worth 1.5 mil but it cost upwards of 5 million to build.
maniacoffroader 1 year ago
@maniacoffroader think about what your comparing japanese & european with American.......
emceefrog69 1 year ago
@JesusChristRulesYOU What? A Camaro and Mustang can beat a GTR P Turbo GT3 and the Superlegeda? Ur another bonkers? More reliable? Dude seriously if u do NOT know about their cars horsepower performance and reliability plz do not post rubbish comment about ur stupid knowledge on cars and even a Camaro or Mustang can beat them... thats in drag racing and not in a track.... Fools bunch of act smarts about cars knowledge
MrLolx2u 1 year ago
wow ur fucking retarded
gdcastro03 1 year ago
@gdcastro03 Wanna try calling a people retarded when u do not even know basic car foundation? Plz read up about how different cars are made THEn u call a real car player a noob dipshit
MrLolx2u 1 year ago
Go put your kids on the back seat of the lambo... Ops, there's no way. GT-R has a lot more space in it, it feels solid and it weights on its place. Lambo is truly a beast, but come on... you can't drive this bull*hit in the city. GT-R is waaay better for the normal user :) Not to mention that it can be easily tuned to 900hp which will make huuuuge success in drag racing.
ptodorov0 2 years ago
@ptodorov0 it isn't easily 900hp... you've been playing too much gran turismo. To get 900 hp would costs a shit load
gtiiiiiiii 2 years ago 3
@gtiiiiiiii lol...agreed!
MaxwellReviresco 2 years ago
hahah haha"easily tuned to900hp"
for that matter the gallardo can be EASILY tuned to 1300 whp hahahah
yxxxpepexxxy 2 years ago
Ok, you're right I'm not exactly right on that matter, but it can be tuned to 800HP for 13000 euro, if you don't believe me... kill yourself, or just check Switzer's website. There are many videos of 800hp R35s here on youtube, see what that monster does :)
ptodorov0 2 years ago
now that sound better , still the GT-R has a back seat, a V6( economical? haha) ,itseasy to use, its not at sharp as a gallardo would be every day .. its a better all rounder, but i dont have kids , i dont care id have the gallardo i love that V10 sound
yxxxpepexxxy 2 years ago