Yep great commentry, thank gods its on utube coz they dont show enough of the great horses, the likes of moscow and istabraq help make racing what it is now. Holts call in istabraqs 3rd champion was top class 2.
No doubt Well Chief is one of the best 2m chasers never to win the Champion Chase. With this performance he would have won most renewal's of the race, he was just unlucky to come up against one of the greatest 2m chasers in Moscow Flyer. Unfortunately, after the 2004/2005 season injury pretty much ruined his career. I'm still convinced Moscow Flyer, Azertyuiop & Well Chief are the best three 2m chasers I've seen in the last 20 years.
Favourite commentary by Holt was the Christmas Hurdle when Harchibald beat Rooster Booster - ...one more good jump would be very useful, oh great jump by the old boy, but Harchibald still closes, a furlong left to go and Rooster Booster is flat out, he's flagging under pressure, here comes Harchibald, and Harchibald will get there..
im an Aussie (please dont hold that against me im not one of the loud "look at me" wankers. i lived over in UK in Exeter with my lovely British wife for 3 years in the time of Moscow Flyer. i emailed all my racing nut mates this last night to try to express the different cultures and why jumps racing is so awesome over your way. 2 replies from staunch pro punt flat racing boys............""how good is it when the crowd starts going berserk from the 3rd last?" and "just pure goosebumps!" love it
@Beccalcf Ran in Point to points in Ireland a string of 2nds but nothing special. Only a half brother to Moscow :) I would imagine he fetched a price at sometime or other as looks to be well bred.
Well Chief hasn't won a grade 1 chase since 2004 because his career has been plagued by injuries. This is a horse that as a 6yo carried top weight in the Victor Chandler Handicap Chase off a rating of 176, giving 20lbs and a beating to Thisthatandtother who by the way went on to win the Ryanair Chase that season. That was a superb weight carrying perfromance, every bit as good as the one Denman put up in the Hennessy earlier this season. Without doubt at his best Well Chief was a great horse.
@Arazi124 well chief was just to young in the above race but if fit a year on from this he would have been the best about, unfortunately he was hit by injury after injury. WELL CHIEF iS MY FAV HORSE OF ALL TIME!
Plain and simple, the only horse that can beat Master Minded this year is Well Chief, forget Big Zeb, that will be found out soon enough, at the top of his game i am positive that Well Chief can beat Master Minded, off for over 2 years and only beat 7 lengths and they obviously rode him, for just that, 2nd place, just hope the horse made of glass can finally prove he is no nearly horse, heres to hoping, come on Well Chief!!!
well it looks like well chief has had his day,,,,, TWIST MAGIC was majastic in the tingle creek and he will be master minded biggest fow at cheltham this year.. never seen a horse win a tingle creek like twist magic did..... c'om the nicholls YARD
For me Twist Magic is only Twist Magic at Sandown, if the Champion Chase was held there then maybe he would be the bifggest threat to MM but he clearly just isn't the same anywhere else, his Cheltenham record reads F6F and he was beaten 52l when he actually managed to complete not the most compounding of cases for him to beat MM is it, i have nothing against Twist Magic, he just only seems to turn it on at Sandown!!
@18LiveForever erm. is i can remember rightly in a Group 1 race at Sandown Twist Magic fell when leading in 2008 and i cant remenber who won it. I dont think he LOVES Sandown. I think its a bit like Monet's Garden and Aintree today didnt do very well at all but they all have off days. just like the great Kauto Star
Plain and simple well chief hasnt won a grade one chase since he was a novice...which was in 2004 ....he was 24lenghts off twist magic in the tingle creek....he was always a good horse but never a great one!
Moscow Flyer was the greatest,for gods sake he was only a length or 2 off istabraq over hurdles in his younger days master minded did'nt have that speed.Moscow would do him up the hill.'
I have no problem with Master Minded, he's clearly a chaser of the highest class. However, I've read people saying that he's in a different league to Moscow Flyer, Azertyuiop & Well Chief - and that stuns me. If you took those three horses at their best and put them up against today's 2m division they would be just as impressive & dominant as MM has been IMO. I mean Well Chief was off the track for 2 years and still beat the rest into second in this years Champion Chase!
Mater Minded is so good because he has no other horses of quality to take him on, up against Moscow Flyer and Azertyuiop he might still well win but he would not look half as classy. I never rated Well Chief when he won the Arkle but he did prove to be a classy horse after that !! I miss Well Chief he was lovely little horse.
masterminded is one of the greatest horses we will ever see i dont thnk moscow flyer would get close big zeb is a good horse but masterminded was not at his usual self when they met and he still won
We will never know how good moscow truely was for the simple reason he never extended when he hit the front..... Well Chief or a Donkey he would win usually by about 2 lengths. A racing mystery that we will never know. Fact no one can dispute was he beat all that was put in front of him.
Master MInded is rated 6lb higher than Moscow Flyer ever was, so r u lot sayin these ratings r rubbish? Who's to say Master Minded wudnt have beaten Well Chief in the 2005 CC by greater distance than MF did?
master minded will go down as one of if not the highest rated chaser of all time.i loved the flyer, but think master minded would of beat him. beating voy por ustedes out of sight is far more impressive than beating well chief 3 lengths. long live the flyer though. i had £80 on him to win the tingle creek that season and when he won that i put the winning on him for the champion chase. a real hero
master minded beat donkeys at ascot beat the same old shit at cheltenham if had to give them weight like well chief did master minded wouldnt get near moscow flyer harder to win at 11 than it as 5 moscow beat good hoeses unlike master mind
its always hard to say who would win between horses from different generations. one things for sure is that moscow flyer was a great horse and master minded is a great horse.
master minded would laugh at moscow flyer and azertyuiop,hed make them look like selling platers and he will also laugh at well chief if he takes him on in march
i reckon clive smith should suppliment master minded for the champion hurdle,then all the binocular supporters would be shitting themselves,i reckon he would laugh at binocular,come on clive smith u know u want to lol
yeah they would, but fuck, binocular is something elst to watch too isnt he. Moscow aside do u know what my favorite era was.. it was the sound man/ viking flagship/ klairon davis era. memories!
Get a grip you clown. Master Minded is beating absolutely nothing, Moscow Flyer beat genuine top class TWO MILE chasers. Name a genuine champion Master Minded has beaten? ... He couldn't even see out 2m4f at Aintree.
Just like he did with Azertyiuop, Moscow Flyer would put yet another Nicholls hype horse (Master Minded) in his place were he in his prime.
And as NLM1980 says, to win a Champion Chase at 11yrs old beating Well Chief and Azertyiuop... Best performance of the past 20 years.
what? he only stuffed the previous champion chaser voy pour ustedes by over 20 lenghts so if thats beating nothing then i wouldnt mind owning a nothing horse like him,,he will win more champion chases than any other horse ever has if he stays injury free,and u say moscow flyer won a champion chase at 11,big fuckin whippee did moscow flyer win one at the age of 5?dont think so pal
I think it is harder to win a champion chase at 11 years old rather than 5. Master Minded also had tons of previous of experience in France, chasers usually peak around 8 or 9 and are known to go on the downgrade from 10 onwards, so I think Moscows win at 11yrs old against GENUINE top class animals is far better than anything the Nicholls horse will ever achieve....
been abroad for last 8 years so i heard bout this moiscow flyer in other posts and its first time ive seen vidoes, well at least I can say ive seen the best 2m chaser ive ever seen by a long way
been abroad for last 8 years so i heard bout this Moscow Flyer in other posts and its first time ive seen vidoes, well at least I can say ive seen the best 2m chaser ive ever seen by a long way !
ps Arazi tx for posting all those 90's races nice one
Makes me proud to have met Moscow himself <33
IHateHorseSlaughter1 1 month ago
Yep great commentry, thank gods its on utube coz they dont show enough of the great horses, the likes of moscow and istabraq help make racing what it is now. Holts call in istabraqs 3rd champion was top class 2.
BRASSMAN167 1 month ago
No doubt Well Chief is one of the best 2m chasers never to win the Champion Chase. With this performance he would have won most renewal's of the race, he was just unlucky to come up against one of the greatest 2m chasers in Moscow Flyer. Unfortunately, after the 2004/2005 season injury pretty much ruined his career. I'm still convinced Moscow Flyer, Azertyuiop & Well Chief are the best three 2m chasers I've seen in the last 20 years.
Arazi124 1 month ago
Favourite commentary by Holt was the Christmas Hurdle when Harchibald beat Rooster Booster - ...one more good jump would be very useful, oh great jump by the old boy, but Harchibald still closes, a furlong left to go and Rooster Booster is flat out, he's flagging under pressure, here comes Harchibald, and Harchibald will get there..
thedrever 2 months ago
His call on the Tingle Creek when he beat Well Chief and Azertyuiop was amazing also.
cjn880lcfc 3 months ago
SIMON HOLT IS THE BEST SPORT COMMENTATOR OF ALL TIME IMO , THIS IS 1 OF HIS BEST , MOSCOW , WOT A HORSE
MRCMBURNS67 5 months ago 2
I'M IN TEARS WATCHING THIS , LUV KING MOSCOW
MRCMBURNS67 5 months ago
im an Aussie (please dont hold that against me im not one of the loud "look at me" wankers. i lived over in UK in Exeter with my lovely British wife for 3 years in the time of Moscow Flyer. i emailed all my racing nut mates this last night to try to express the different cultures and why jumps racing is so awesome over your way. 2 replies from staunch pro punt flat racing boys............""how good is it when the crowd starts going berserk from the 3rd last?" and "just pure goosebumps!" love it
gruesfuy 6 months ago
I have recently bought Moscow Flyers brother Diamond Bill (IRE) 2002. Does anyone know much about him?
Beccalcf 6 months ago
@Beccalcf Ran in Point to points in Ireland a string of 2nds but nothing special. Only a half brother to Moscow :) I would imagine he fetched a price at sometime or other as looks to be well bred.
dazwald 6 months ago
"Moscow Flyer is Magnificent!!!!"...Simon Holt.....The BEST!!..Cheltenham is just magical...
darsfc1 10 months ago
Simon Holt - best commentator about!
jkamwal2 10 months ago
Still get shivers after all this time.What a horse!
zonerlust 1 year ago
Magnificent is the only way to describe it...........Simon Holt nicely done.
mudderagod 1 year ago 3
what a horse he was. the greatest 2 miler eva.... bar none!!!
katchit01 1 year ago
I recommend to anyone who appreciates this horse to read the book. a 17 guineas buy who become a priceless comodity in the words of his trainer.
dazwald 1 year ago
moscow flyer is a fuckin legend....love this horse!!
MrJoey1498 1 year ago
Ha Central house i only down the road from the pub i remember the day the jockey stopped before the line and lost it
cillian022 1 year ago
@cillian022 what a wally mate, eh?thats all that jockey will ever be remembered for lol
snedz1982 1 year ago
Well Chief hasn't won a grade 1 chase since 2004 because his career has been plagued by injuries. This is a horse that as a 6yo carried top weight in the Victor Chandler Handicap Chase off a rating of 176, giving 20lbs and a beating to Thisthatandtother who by the way went on to win the Ryanair Chase that season. That was a superb weight carrying perfromance, every bit as good as the one Denman put up in the Hennessy earlier this season. Without doubt at his best Well Chief was a great horse.
Arazi124 2 years ago
@Arazi124 well chief was just to young in the above race but if fit a year on from this he would have been the best about, unfortunately he was hit by injury after injury. WELL CHIEF iS MY FAV HORSE OF ALL TIME!
snedz1982 1 year ago
WHAT A HORSE. I backed it this day!
JacobMilner 2 years ago
Plain and simple, the only horse that can beat Master Minded this year is Well Chief, forget Big Zeb, that will be found out soon enough, at the top of his game i am positive that Well Chief can beat Master Minded, off for over 2 years and only beat 7 lengths and they obviously rode him, for just that, 2nd place, just hope the horse made of glass can finally prove he is no nearly horse, heres to hoping, come on Well Chief!!!
18LiveForever 2 years ago 2
well it looks like well chief has had his day,,,,, TWIST MAGIC was majastic in the tingle creek and he will be master minded biggest fow at cheltham this year.. never seen a horse win a tingle creek like twist magic did..... c'om the nicholls YARD
PMcM1007 2 years ago
For me Twist Magic is only Twist Magic at Sandown, if the Champion Chase was held there then maybe he would be the bifggest threat to MM but he clearly just isn't the same anywhere else, his Cheltenham record reads F6F and he was beaten 52l when he actually managed to complete not the most compounding of cases for him to beat MM is it, i have nothing against Twist Magic, he just only seems to turn it on at Sandown!!
18LiveForever 2 years ago
@18LiveForever erm. is i can remember rightly in a Group 1 race at Sandown Twist Magic fell when leading in 2008 and i cant remenber who won it. I dont think he LOVES Sandown. I think its a bit like Monet's Garden and Aintree today didnt do very well at all but they all have off days. just like the great Kauto Star
jamesclarke1994 1 year ago
Plain and simple well chief hasnt won a grade one chase since he was a novice...which was in 2004 ....he was 24lenghts off twist magic in the tingle creek....he was always a good horse but never a great one!
joeyjoejoe6w 2 years ago
These big three were as dominant as Monksfield, Night Nurse & Sea Pigeon were in the 1970's over hurdles.
Few would better them.
foriamonlyahorse 2 years ago
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joeyjoejoe6w 2 years ago
Moscow Flyer was the greatest,for gods sake he was only a length or 2 off istabraq over hurdles in his younger days master minded did'nt have that speed.Moscow would do him up the hill.'
TheBroph1 2 years ago
I have no problem with Master Minded, he's clearly a chaser of the highest class. However, I've read people saying that he's in a different league to Moscow Flyer, Azertyuiop & Well Chief - and that stuns me. If you took those three horses at their best and put them up against today's 2m division they would be just as impressive & dominant as MM has been IMO. I mean Well Chief was off the track for 2 years and still beat the rest into second in this years Champion Chase!
Arazi124 2 years ago
Very good point
DTL910 2 years ago
Mater Minded is so good because he has no other horses of quality to take him on, up against Moscow Flyer and Azertyuiop he might still well win but he would not look half as classy. I never rated Well Chief when he won the Arkle but he did prove to be a classy horse after that !! I miss Well Chief he was lovely little horse.
mwbaker1979 2 years ago
moscow flyer is a true racing legend. check his jump at the third last. superb.
aaronphelan 2 years ago
spagslee stfu moscow had azertioup well beat the races moscow flyer would whip master mind out of it at hes best no doubt hes a legend moscow
hasco316 2 years ago
@hasco316 how about you stfu cockbreath
spagsylee 3 weeks ago
i wish moscow had stood up when azertyuiop won it, as i think that was the best azertyuiop ever ran, he may have beaten moscow
spagsylee 2 years ago
masterminded is one of the greatest horses we will ever see i dont thnk moscow flyer would get close big zeb is a good horse but masterminded was not at his usual self when they met and he still won
kopkingstevie 2 years ago
master minded beat big zeb a nose moscow would destroy big zeb well chief for next years queen mother
hasco316 2 years ago
We will never know how good moscow truely was for the simple reason he never extended when he hit the front..... Well Chief or a Donkey he would win usually by about 2 lengths. A racing mystery that we will never know. Fact no one can dispute was he beat all that was put in front of him.
dazwald 2 years ago
thats true, moscow was the best chaser i have ever seen though. i dont think master minded would beat him.
thommobhoy 2 years ago
voy pur needs 2.5m hammered master minded by 20 leneghts at aintree well chief will beat master next time they meet 2 years off and still came second
LegendTupacRiP 2 years ago
Master MInded is rated 6lb higher than Moscow Flyer ever was, so r u lot sayin these ratings r rubbish? Who's to say Master Minded wudnt have beaten Well Chief in the 2005 CC by greater distance than MF did?
DTL910 2 years ago
master minded will go down as one of if not the highest rated chaser of all time.i loved the flyer, but think master minded would of beat him. beating voy por ustedes out of sight is far more impressive than beating well chief 3 lengths. long live the flyer though. i had £80 on him to win the tingle creek that season and when he won that i put the winning on him for the champion chase. a real hero
johngilly28 2 years ago
master minded beat donkeys at ascot beat the same old shit at cheltenham if had to give them weight like well chief did master minded wouldnt get near moscow flyer harder to win at 11 than it as 5 moscow beat good hoeses unlike master mind
LegendTupacRiP 3 years ago
its always hard to say who would win between horses from different generations. one things for sure is that moscow flyer was a great horse and master minded is a great horse.
azertyuiop32 3 years ago
Would be a great match.
applehunter87 3 years ago
master minded would laugh at moscow flyer and azertyuiop,hed make them look like selling platers and he will also laugh at well chief if he takes him on in march
stephenstez 3 years ago
No disrespect to Master minded but if Master Minded wins like that when he is 11 then ill say fair enough.
nlm1980 3 years ago
i reckon clive smith should suppliment master minded for the champion hurdle,then all the binocular supporters would be shitting themselves,i reckon he would laugh at binocular,come on clive smith u know u want to lol
stephenstez 3 years ago
yeah they would, but fuck, binocular is something elst to watch too isnt he. Moscow aside do u know what my favorite era was.. it was the sound man/ viking flagship/ klairon davis era. memories!
nlm1980 3 years ago
ah thats going back further than i can remember lol,best bet for the festival is hurricaine fly no matter what rave he runs in
stephenstez 3 years ago
is Hurricaine in cousin vinnie race?
I think Binocular and Danman are bankers for cheltenham
Managatsu0 3 years ago
Get a grip you clown. Master Minded is beating absolutely nothing, Moscow Flyer beat genuine top class TWO MILE chasers. Name a genuine champion Master Minded has beaten? ... He couldn't even see out 2m4f at Aintree.
Just like he did with Azertyiuop, Moscow Flyer would put yet another Nicholls hype horse (Master Minded) in his place were he in his prime.
And as NLM1980 says, to win a Champion Chase at 11yrs old beating Well Chief and Azertyiuop... Best performance of the past 20 years.
thommobhoy 3 years ago
what? he only stuffed the previous champion chaser voy pour ustedes by over 20 lenghts so if thats beating nothing then i wouldnt mind owning a nothing horse like him,,he will win more champion chases than any other horse ever has if he stays injury free,and u say moscow flyer won a champion chase at 11,big fuckin whippee did moscow flyer win one at the age of 5?dont think so pal
stephenstez 3 years ago
I think it is harder to win a champion chase at 11 years old rather than 5. Master Minded also had tons of previous of experience in France, chasers usually peak around 8 or 9 and are known to go on the downgrade from 10 onwards, so I think Moscows win at 11yrs old against GENUINE top class animals is far better than anything the Nicholls horse will ever achieve....
thommobhoy 3 years ago
pity he fell in 2004 as it would have been nice for him to have won it 3 times like he deserved.
thommobhoy 3 years ago
Azertyuiop and Well Chief weren't novices
fm3544 3 years ago
This race had everything. The champion VS the two talented novices, it was a special race
nemeth2009 3 years ago
i love that at the end of the race..
"and moscow flyer is magnificent"
nikkipark 3 years ago
thanks for the memories moscow you will be forgotten!!!
holty901 3 years ago
I've never seen a better chaser - had everything!
Danoli95 4 years ago 2
once in a lifetime race
CIARAN8158 4 years ago
WHAT A LEGEND. The greatest chaser since Dessie and his legion of fans was simply breathtaking, HAIL THE FLYER!
thommobhoy 4 years ago
been abroad for last 8 years so i heard bout this moiscow flyer in other posts and its first time ive seen vidoes, well at least I can say ive seen the best 2m chaser ive ever seen by a long way
celticswing 4 years ago
Moscow Flyer once again was superb as was Well Cheif in defeat. Shame Azertyuiop made a mistake to take him out of contention.
Arazi12 4 years ago
been abroad for last 8 years so i heard bout this Moscow Flyer in other posts and its first time ive seen vidoes, well at least I can say ive seen the best 2m chaser ive ever seen by a long way !
ps Arazi tx for posting all those 90's races nice one
celticswing 4 years ago
well chief is top class aswell
hasco316 4 years ago
moscow flyer what a horse there will never be a better 2 mile chaser ever and i mean ever never lost a race for 23 races when standing on hes feet
hasco316 4 years ago
GO ON MOSCOW!!!!!!!!!!Had a100 euro double with him and Trabolgan and was there, ah happy days.
raynewine 4 years ago
Gives Me Goosebumps When Moscow Flyer Jumps The 3rd Last
chrisnufc 4 years ago
The best 2 mile chaser for a long time, what a horse!
topmandandan 4 years ago
moscow isthe greatest he still is he won latley in a charity race a true genius he did his country proud
salthill99 4 years ago
Moscow Flyer was an amazing horse! i havent heard much of him lately i assume he'll be retired now though?
nikkipark 5 years ago
Retired a year now. What a legend! Champion chase isnt the same without him!
HeSaidS0 5 years ago