Training For Utopia - "Two Hands"

[lukarelli11]

Who cares about the genres..??? Just listen to the music... -.-

[nprules]

stop arguing over the subgenre and just listen

[graphicsdork]

isn't that don clark from demon hunter on guitars? i think this is their old band.

[TAKECOVER222]

i know what this is ITS MUSIC!!!!

[p4r4n01d1]

This is Mathcore guys ;-)

[lenticchiaz]

yes!!!!

[creamsicle8888]

@p4r4n01d1 haha im pretty sure this is algebra core hahaha

[Killswitchislegend]

@p4r4n01d1 Exactly. just like protest the hero

[inflabby]

sludge hardcore

[mooglisxbg67000]

this doesn't sound like sludge hardcore to me.

Crowbar is sludge-core. this is too fast and too wierd to be sludge. it's more kind of chaos core something undefinible

[JDazeed]

they sound alot like norma jean

[chukmaty]

Actually Norma Jean sounds like the bands that influence Utopia. Utopia was around awhile before not only Norma Jean but Luti Kris which was the original Norma Jean.

[sum33]

i like the famine better

[thisisyourname4eva]

I agree

these guys are a little dark too...which is...wierd..

[sum33]

well its not that there dark i just like them better

[thisisyourname4eva]

i know im just sayin in my opinion they look dark which isnt why i like the famine better... just a thought

[sum33]

ya i kno

[tsamneb]

its so hilarious that this is ryan clark. i like it, but its just soooooooo different. i even kinda like the style more than demon hunter

[nastover]

I bought training for utopia like 4 years ago, never really listen to it. The only reason i have it is because it's ryan and don clark!

[mutehero7]

TFU>DH

[FragmentSnake]

this sounds like The Chariot or old Norma Jean , and besides , where's Ryan Clark?

[adiosarethebest]

hes the lead...  and guitar...

he had hair lol

[DamoTheJuggalo]

But... DH are christian... so they automatically fail.

[crackwhore2007]

I'd rather listen to a christian band than anti-christian faggotry which is pretty much even more fail.

[crazybobazy]

thats possibly the stupidest thing i have ever heard...your an abslute idiot if u think because a band is christian they automatically fail...obviously u dont know music...like august burns read...one of the best metal bands out right now is christian...and if u think they are bad just for that reason u obviously dont know music

[DamoTheJuggalo]

Are you a fucking idiot? August burns red arent metal?!! Go find a hole to die in.

Listen to some real metal.

EXODUS BITCH!

[crazybobazy]

ha ur hilarious

exodus is thrash and ther garbage

hardly real metal at all..i think u need to get ur genres straight

[DamoTheJuggalo]

and whats your idea of real metal? Metalcore?

Go find a hole to die in and get cancer.

Iron Maiden then?

[crazybobazy]

at least they have some skill

but seriously u need to reconsider ur idea of metal

the genre has evolved over the years

try considering some bands outside the 70's/80's

[crazybobazy]

and besides u need to shut up and listen for 2 seconds at what im saying u prejudiced fag

im not here to dis bands

yes maiden and exodus are talented musicians

all am saying is the fact that a band is christian doesnt make them bad...thats like hitler saying the jews are inferior cuz ther jewish...they are talented musicians that deserve the same respect as all other bands...there religion should hold no bearing on how talented they are

[DamoTheJuggalo]

It was a joke for fucks sake, Get over it, thats my opinion, not yours.

Are you talking about New wave of american metal such as Lamb of god?

Or European such as Children of bodom?

Dont call Hardcore bands Metal, They are far from it. Im not saying they're bad im just saying its two different genres, I like a bit of hardcore myself, I just dont like all these christian fags wanting to make heavy music whilst 20 odd years ago they shunned it for being "evil"

[FrodoFragginz]

I'm a huge hardcore fan, and I love ABR. Anything heavy

but I'm not gonna lie,

"I just dont like all these christian fags wanting to make heavy music whilst 20 odd years ago they shunned it for being "evil" "

I'd have to agree with that

[thisismy7thusername]

well, i wasn't a christian 20 years ago because i'm 17, and i got into music when i was 13. Please don't generalize christians as hypocrites, many are not, and those that are ruin the whole thing for all of us. It gets annoying when being a christian automatically means you don't know what you are talking about, you are just a drone spitting out what the preacher tells you, or you are a closed-minded idiot.

[jjmklauwn]

There are so many differences between Christian groups, there was Christian metal fully supported by churches 30 years ago while other Chrisians still yell "evil" in 2009.

[sexyiswhatiaimfor]

August Burns Red is metalcore.

[hoodedraider]

most fail comment ever tbh.. contributed by damothejuggalo..

[Rollincaddybc17]

Seriously... August Burns Red is one of the most skilled and under appreciated bands. They sure dont fail and their a "Christian" band.

[markmooserock]

DH puts TFU to shame! I could teach ppl with no hands how to play TFU's guitar riffs. DH at least takes the time to write catchy riffs that stick in your head, not this annoying syncopated crap. DH has come a LONG way!

[RedeemerRed]

lol You truly are ignorant (how many times have I said those four words to idiots on Youtube?). Just BECAUSE music in one band isn't as complicated in another makes them no less of a band then the others. This DOES stick in peoples heads, for those who find it to their taste. EVERYTHING almost is an opinion in life, and that is your opinion. People find this catchy, that's cool, if you don't, that's cool too. Seriously, is it the Western culture that has made you this way? Yeah, seems like it.

[clottoyup]

was nirvana crap kuz curt wasn't great on guitar. No they were awsome, they used the skills they had to make realy good music, dragonforce on the other hand have lots of skill yet will never be held in higher reguard. it's not technicality that makes great music.

[virtuex10]

Demon Hunter is a lot more mature then this band. This to me is just noisecore, like norma jeans old stuff... but i could tell that their writing style was still kind the same from this to DH's ST.

[skinbones77]

Yeah, not to mention the guitar licks from this song take no talent at all.

[zaiah93]

dude demon hunter is awesome.. this is just early demon hunter.. they have come along way

[Jez549]

This is amazing

[OBEYCOREpremiere]

if you like solid state records check out victory records...THE BANDS kinda sissy but songs that the world will like for a long time

[CrowleyHead]

I disagree on Victory, as far as what they're putting out now. I would recommend older material like Integrity or Deadguy.

[xenoman22]

Hell yes! I loved this band when I heard them in high school. Is it just me or do all the hardcore bands from the mid-late 90's (even into the early 2000s) just sound better than all the stuff out there now?

[aagoth]

(read this with a PIRATE´s voice)

yU´reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee right Arrrr

I totally agree dude

[xt3freakk]

MATHCORE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

i just love them

[aagoth]

dude this is not mathcore!

[jeffgrinddeath]

Training For Utopia own Demon Hunter.

[zaiah93]

no.. demon hunter is still awesome in everyway

[virtuex10]

Thank God for Demon Hunter...

Personally i couldn't get into this... but Ryan and Don, tear it up in DH.

[zaiah93]

amen

[IzDeadx]

man this is old school

[777DMNHNTR]

Woot, Ryan has hair on this video? :P I've never seen him having hair. Though he's just a 21 year old in this video, or less?

[DEJ915]

I never knew they had a video for TFU

[metalhead3133]

Wow. What a crappy quality video. The song is good though. Zaorulesmetal, this is totally different than Demon Hunter. DH is a lighter metalcore band focused on bringing people over from hard rock to metal. They may not be as heavy as these guys, or a lot of other metal, but theyre amazing in their genre.

[griffeyphan]

i lost the solid state dvd that had this... its been so long since ive seen this vid thanks for uploading it

[cowboysgotguns13]

TFU was around before Norma Jean, and Converge didn't inspire this stuff either. TFU practically invented noisecore, Converge played a faster type of grind.

noisecore =\= speedgrind.

Nice try though.

[nefulum]

I agree with KillaCam, Alejandro is a douche and doesnt know what hes talking about.

[Clarium]

What is this? Freaky...

[KillaCamThankYouMaam]

dude, alejandro, this shit was out years before norma jean put anything out you dumbass

[christianfulwood]

the beginning is a little freaky but good song

[kasicarocks]

very weird

[salsashark2004]

I don't know about better, but definitely different. This is more like noisecore then the metalcore/alt metal they play now. Both are good, but in completely different ways

[redairknight]

ok wow dude...ryan clark has got a lot better since this. other wise i would proably never listen to demon hunters music.

[zaorulesmetal]

No, this is much better than Demon Hunter.

[ChipsVoid]

All the other bands listed in these comments wish they could be half as good as TFU was.

[astrotriforce]

Wow. My ears hurt. :P I couldn't even tell it was Ryan either. I did recognize Don though, but I thought he was Ethan! :P

[rutledge123]

never knew they had a video its been forever since i have heard tfu

[clottoyup]

how old is this? i'd say about 10 years now, but i dunno when it cam out.

[jk84panhead]

It's so weird seeing Ryan with hair.

[grungzer]

can you say lets have a seizure?

Good music, but um... that video was a bit of a trip for sure.

Sort of sounds like As Cities Burn, totally different from Demon Hunters stuff now, The Triptych and Storm The Gates of Hell and all that.

[iwebber88]

Ryan* haha

[MacMontrose]

woww!!!! i miss this!!! hey everybodyhasmine, i agree, memories!!!!

[RevMeaty]

Freakin' wicked. Ryan Clark with hair. Heh...

[amazingmato]

is that really ryan clark?

i cant tell, and it doesnt sound like him

[RevMeaty]

Yea, that's WAY back in the day. So his voice is bound to change, and yea, the video doesn't really give a good look. But it's him.

[galian14]

Yeah this was his and Don's previous band.

[clottoyup]

yup, if you listen to the first demon hunter album it is a cross between this and their newest stuff. This is screaming, but ryan now likes to talk/shout with an affect of his voice.

[markmooserock]

I agree with you on the dragon force thing. I think they suck. Playing super fast riffs doesn't take talent, it just takes practice. As for the TFU argument, they never really created any riffs that stuck out in my head. No hooks. DH on the other hand is the complete opposite. That's the point i was trying to make. Songs like 'Fading Away" and "lead us home" provide both riffs and hooks that leave you singing them all day. im my humble opinion, TFU lacked that completely.

[clottoyup]

you are entitled to your opinion, and yeah demon hunter are better in many ways but TFU were hardcore, so their song writing was hardcore not metalcore based. You are right about the talent, they were limited, but my argument was it takes a whole lot more to write a good song, and i think TFU did that but for hardcore music.

[iwebber88]

Tyan had hair? hehe...

Ok song, wish the video quality was better though.

[brianbdaman]

cool..this is demon hunter before??

nice..

[monknight777]

Yeah this is Demon Hunter before they were Demon Hunter. Crazy Cool Ain't it!

[MixPix]

I did not know that. That is cool.

[everybodyhasmine]

why??? brings back memories....why???

[ferchokomilk]

woo nice band.. it sounds like norma jean yeahh xD