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  • @uranorexic - oh this is great....YOU say Connally is "wrong" in order to be right? No, YOU are wrong and Connally knows exactly when he got hit...I bet YOU would know too if it happened to you. I know I would. Why trust the conspirators rather than those who experienced it as it happened?? Connally said he got hit just as he started moving his head back to his left.....that was WAY WAY after JFK was shot (the first of 3 bullets that hit JFK).

  • @uranorexic - the proof is that these guys held the flaps in place, took a picture and THEN the WC said the head as intact except for a small entry wound, which these guys are saying is a LIE by their testimony of holding the huge hole shut for the picture. You're own statements here IS the proof that you say doesn't exist. Wake up man.

  • @uranorexic - What we're seeing in Z313 is a "major skull flap" that instantly whipped around to the right side of JFK's head from the blast that blew out the back of his skull, whipping brain matter FORWARD and up. We see the INSIDE of this skill flap facing Zapruder. There were several flaps like that probably, but this one is probably the largest and very visible toward the camera. The frame takes 1/18 second and the bullet 1/1000 second, so bullet has flopped into the infield grass by now.

  • @uranorexic - OK, this is testimony that the huge hole was being presented as CLOSED for the picture - and then the WC used that picture to say his head was intact except for a small entry wound there, when these guys are exposing the cover up. Get it?

  • @uranorexic - Notice Dr. Peters says they covered it up...!!! Exactly...they put the flaps in place, take that picture and then say his head looked like that instead of telling the truth of the HUGE hole in the back of the head that the doctors tended to 15 minutes or so after the shot from the fence blew it out. Duh...!!

  • @uranorexic - Exactly, they put the flaps back and THEN told the bullshit story that the bullet entered in the back of the head, when instead it blew OUT the back, which is what CREATED the flaps to begin with. Duh...!!

  • @uranorexic Connally was a direct hit, sorry. There were 6-7 shots overall. Look at it for real. You KNOW one bullet couldn't do all that....that's why 2 guys walked from the WC because they knew it was bullshit (and said that's WHY they left the commission). The bigger the lie, the more people believe it I guess...but 80% of America knows it's bullshit.

  • @uranorexic The "medical evidence" you refer to is what? It's COVER UP STORY...the autopsy was fake and story. We'd have to exhume JFK again and do another REAL autopsy to get the facts right. Why not trace the bullets like a REAL forensic autopsy? Obviously because THAT would expose the conspiracy.

  • @uranorexic The skill flaps cover the huge EXIT hole if you flap them back into place. The ENTRY wound was near the right temple area. The technician who worked on the autopsy photos was killed immediately after he retired from the Navy by the CIA so he wouldn't talk. Research this, it's true. How could there be a small "exit" wound in JFK's throat from a bullet that THEN went into Connally's back and blew out a huge hole below his right nipple? Not possible. Throat wound was frontal ENTRY.

  • @uranorexic He was in the break room, as his (undercover) job was done...he placed the weapon and was waiting downstairs to hear about the bust. What a shock when they came by telling him "somebody shot at the President!". Then, his mind went into panic probably. Mack Wallace fingerprints have recently been identified as on the boxes in the sniper's nest (from previously unidentified prints). Do your homework...more evidence comes to light all the time. LBJ told his mistress JFK would be killed.

  • @uranorexic - No proof? The POLICE said Oswald was in the break room! AND a worker saw him there just prior to the execution. So he was there right before AND right after and you say "there is no proof?" Also, people in the stairway said he didn't come down there. Don't believe the cover story! Also the missing evidence - the Mauser rifle. The missing head bullet. The missing back & throat bullets (still in JFK). The immediately restored limo!! Paraffin test on Oswald was NEGATIVE..etc.

  • @uranorexic There were 6-7 shots.

  • @uranorexic You're wrong and your information in incorrect. I call your bluff, post the Doctor "testimony" here that you refer to, I dare you.

  • @uranorexic Go ahead and send it, I call your bluff. The Doctors ALL say there was a huge gaping hole in the back right rear of the head. If THAT was an entry wound, where is the huge exit wound and JFK would have been driven down onto the floor by the bullet's path. If you examine conspiracy, then notice there is a TON of evidence of WHAT's MISSING and LIES being told and eyewitness testimony being said is "wrong" by the cover up team.

  • @uranorexic A high powered shot from the GK fence entered JFK's right temple and blasted the back of his head out upon exit. That's what happened to Connally - a HUGE exit wound just below the right nipple. We can tell the bullet path by watching JFK's head driven almost out the back of the limo, pulling his whole body up and almost over the seat - THAT's the bullet path! Notice there is NO head bullet placed in evidence - because it was from a different rifle! Hoover controlled that.

  • @uranorexic There was more than one rifle fired from that floor, so the Mauser had to disappear for the "lone nut" story. I didn't say "there wasn't a Carcano" - Roger Craig didn't make a "mistake" - he was 6 inches from the rifle and read "MAUSER" on the barrel....trust the eyewitnesses and NOT the storytellers later who told the lies. Oswald DID bring the Carcano there, as his (undercover) "duty" with the "cell" from NOLA. He was an intel agent being duped all the way. Watch your language!

  • @uranorexic Hey SCGATOR2001 - don't you think you should delete all of this person's "comments"...they are really violent and misinformed nonsense...you can block that user also...it's really best to have honest information and discourse here....mostly, I wish there could be an honest and real formal legal investigation in this unsolved murder (I think it was an execution led by Hoover, Dulles, the Oil men and LBJ's "camp"). Lots of evidence of cover up, motives, etc.

  • @uranorexic Of course he said/she said is NOT proof of anything BUT anybody with an IQ even approaching room temperature would ask IF they heard a doctor say "THERE WAS A MASSIVE WOUND IN THE RIGHT BACK OF JFK'S HEAD"

    Who is lying and why?

    There was a massive conspiracy and the Doctors and Nurses said there was a massive wound in the back of JFK's head. There was no wound in the front of the head in Dallas as we see in the Zapruder film.

    So you tell me, Who is lying and WHY?

  • @uranorexic Think about it... Dulles was a smart man and sent one of their own agents on undercover assignment to New Orleans to infiltrate this clandestine group that seems suspicious. In THAT role, Oswald reported to the FBI, not knowing he was being used as the eventual patsy. Get it? If the Miami or Chicago attempts went as planned, JFK would have died THERE and it would have been somebody else as the "lone nut". Oswald was in the break room expecting to hear that men were busted upstairs!

  • @uranorexic Connally said he was NOT hit when JFK was hit - you need to view this as a conspiracy and a cover it up if you wanna see the truth. The WC is the major part of the coverup after the fact. The autopsy too....so, you need to trust what the eyewitnesses said and NOT the bullshit "official" stuff later. Try that and you'll start to see. Governor Connally says there were was more than one shooter, as do many witnesses. Officer Craig saw the Mauser rifle on the 6th floor that disappeared.

  • You're convinced Connally (GC) was shot AFTER the head shot, but that's not GC's recollection and he knows BEST...so HE is right. Please open to the concept that the "bang bang" was GC hit FIRST, then the head shot. Notice Connally falls backward toward Nellie's lap - this is from being hit (why else?) and he said he was hit turning head back to the left). He and Nellie dive to the floor when the head shot happens! Frame 296 GC is hit as his mouth opens in pain and he falls toward Nellie.

  • @uranorexic Either a lot of people told similar HUGE LIES or else the US Gov't was involved in a high level conspiracy. The obvious answer is that the men who gained the most from the murder were involved, they had the power to alter testimony, evidence of all kinds.... It's rather easy to find evidence XRays did not match autopsy photos, Photos not matching peoples stated observations etc. Why would ALL the medical people in Dallas lie? They wouldn't, the US Gov't would and did.

  • @uranorexic There are 2 possibles: Either a lone gunman fired 3 shots OR there was a high level conspiracy to kill JFK. If there was a high level conspiracy, the US Gov't would supply evidence that showed the Dr's in Dallas were wrong about seeing a massive wound in the right back of JFK's head. The Dr's in Dallas have clearly disagreed with the US Gov't supplied and controlled evidence. See my video THE BIG LIE about the back of the head. People have a hard time accepting Gov't tells lies :-)

  • Really? Really? You people have got to be kidding me....Who really gives a rip about this anymore? The man is dead. Who gives a crap if a whole army shot him? Is this really relevant? Go arrest the whole CIA....gg...

  • @Ears14U The reason it is important today is that it is clear that Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy high in the US Government. If that is true then you can conclude that if they can tell a lie this big then they can tell any lie.

    CONPSIRACY THEORIES? It's about protecting the ability of the US Government to tell lies and protecting those who should have been caught. They think the public is stupid enough to believe fairy tales they tell, so far they have been right,.

  • @Ears14U Nope, the biggest mystery rather tragedy in history is the substantial proof of E.T visitation on this planet that all world governments ignore. Bury, not ignore.

  • I agree with you on many things however, you forget many shooters may have used silencers. The reports of at least 12 shooters and at least 10 shots. 1.Shooter deaf mute saw at far end of fence. 2.Files spot 3.Badgeman 4.Balckdog man 5.Sewer on street 6.South knoll across street for neck shot 7.Oswald spot (not Oswald) 8.west window 6th floor TSBD 9.Nicoletti in Daltex bldg. 10.Braden in Daltex Bldg. 11.reports of 3 others shooters between Zapruder and fence edited out of Mooreman pic
  • the driver did it.

  • @j400wel YOU don't have to guess anymore. There are TWO INDEPENDENT ways to measure the time between shots, 1. Zapruder film, you can identify shot at Z224, Z313 and Z325. 2. The only audio recording. You can identify the last three shots are 4.8 seconds and 0.7 seconds apart.  Knowing the Z film speed was approx. 18.3 frames per second, you can calculate 4.8 and 0.7 seconds also. IF BOTH Z FILM AND AUDIO RECORDING have 4.8 secs and 0.7 seconds that is a good indication audio is VALID!

  • @SCGATOR2001 - Unfortunately, the audio you refer to is (I presume) the dictabelt recording and that's nothing but static noise. I'm an audio engineer - I've examined it and it's conjecture that it has any "sounds" of shots anywhere. Also, the motorcycle with the open mic was on Houston St. (not Elm St., as originally thought). The audio experts referred to little "spikes" they perceived in the waveform, not SOUNDS. Not likely, because high powered shots in the streets are very LOUD reports!

  • three shotters dick heads two intrhe book deposet and grassy knoll period 5 shots fired one shot went through the windsheild thats why the driver slowed down it came from the book deposit the far end nearer to the grassy knoll and hit the kerb badgeman man took the fatal officer tippet

  • @cullinane8888 That's what the audio evidence TELLS YOU! There were THREE SHOOTERS who fired FIVE SHOTS.

    The audio evidence correlated the sound echoes from the shots fired at Kennedy to test shots fired in 1978 for testing done for the HSCA.

    When the audio experts said this provided overwhelming evidence of conspiracy the US Government went ballistic to DISCREDIT the information.

    Today the JFK "experts" tell you the audio evidence is NOT valid when in actuality it proved conspiracy!

  • @SCGATOR2001 - so, maybe the first shot from the GK hit the windshield and only a fragment of bullet and/or glass hit JFK in the throat. THAT could explain WHERE that throat shot came from, since it was an ENTRY wound. I've been trying to figure out where that came from and that could be it. The GK shooter shot that shot and then the head shot and that's all. Each other shooter fired twice and maybe three from the Mack Wallace sniper nest (where Oswald put the rifle, then went downstairs)....?

  • The '2 shot head shot' is of course exactly as stated in James Files full interview, where he states that he was aiming at JFK's right eye and 'Mr Nicoletti fired at the same time' hitting JFK a millisecond earlier than File's shot, causing Files to miss the eye and hit the temple.

  • Although James Files says this I can prove that his scenario is incorrect.

    The last two shots were BANG-BANG. The first @Z313 hit JFK near the right ear, it passed through his skull and blew out the right back of JFK's head. Place a finger behind you right ear, you can easily see the bullet would exit the right back.

    Z325, 0.7 seconds later, the 5th shot from TSBD, misses JFK's head, hits Connally in back.

    Audio evidence proves this!

    It's not a mystery, it's a LIE.

  • @SCGATOR2001 - problem is Connally said he was hit just as he starts moving his head back to his left. There is NO live audio of "shots" at all - only static noise. On my video I put REAL street shots to see and feel what it might have been like - those were taken from a REAL street shootout down in central america that killed the videographer. My timings are based on the Z film, girl stopping at 1st missed shot, Connally testimony and logic - not exact but so what.

  • Anyone who still believes Kennedy was killed by Oswald is blind and dumb and can't accept the fact that is didn't happen.

  • All of the possible sniper nests were eliminated save the book depository. From 2 you have no shot possible, one a maybe thru windshield but did not happen. Another no chance without people standing right there not being aware and grassing knoll would not replicate the damage to Connelly or JFK.

    None but the Oswald shot fit the bill. And yes any US Marine could have made the shot fairly easy. As for sounds Dale Plaza is a canyon of building and sound bounces all around.

  • @some1sayit - what evidence do you have to support your first sentence here? The shots don't "bounce" as much as you say....not like a "canyon". My video uses actual shots from a street shootout with tall buildings around, similar to the JFK execution. Listen and you'll see there's not that much echo. No doubt shots were fired from the TSBD, but also from the front....the fence at the GK and I think maybe an umbrella gun (with silencer) also (the CIA had those).

  • You apparently did NOT watch my video and if you did you did NOT understand it. What I show is that there is PROOF that what you say is wrong, what's proof? How about odds well over a million to one? If I told you how that could be calculated, you wouldn't understand it as you apparently can't understand how 4.8 seconds and 0.7 seconds fits into exposing this lie.

    Oliver Stone, Dr Wecht are all full of it. The solution is EASY when you look at the evidence independently.

  • We are entitled to our own opinions but we are not entitled to pass off facts when they are opinions.

    As I've clearly shown, there were two shots fired that we can clearly see in the Z film that were 4.8 seconds apart. That is also the exact time between shots 3 and 4 in the Audio Echo Correlation Analysis. Small world?

    Next I show you the next 2 shots in both the film and recording were 0.7 seconds apart. Now we're into no coincidence, the recording is valid.

    Now you know lies were told.

  • What I say about 4.8 seconds can be easily verified. Look at Dr Donald Thomas' paper ECHO CORRELATION ANALYSIS, he has that info in a table (much of his other work is absolute BS but he was capable of copying some info correctly).

    The Z film was 18.3 frames per second, frame 224 to 313. Get out a calculator, it's that simple.

    When was Connally bent over? After JFK's head shot. He is bent over starting at Z325, 0.7 seconds after JFK head.

    You've believed a lie and YOU still don't know why!

  • @SCGATOR2001, You are aware Oswalds rifle held 5 rounds and that only 2 struck JFK and the first that hit JFK also got Conelly. That all were fired from the depository or they missed the vehicle and the men. You know that right? So 5 would still work. I could chamber and fire as fast as Oswald being a Marine Grunt myself at one time. Not buying .07 seconds between shots, that is all.

  • @some1sayit - the (recently surfaced) FBI evidence inventory report lists "two spent shells from the M/C rifle and one UNSPENT shell that was in the chamber of the rifle". This means either that there were only TWO shots fired from the M/C rifle, or the Dallas police did not forward one of the spent shells to the FBI (doubtful). Why would you cock the rifle one more time if you just blew his brains out?

  • @SCGATOR2001 - what are these "timings" based on? If it's the "sound analysis", that was speculation from a static recording where you can't REALLY distinguish shots. I can tell within 2-3 frames when JFK was hit first by LOOKING at the Z film (just as he is becoming visible again). Same with the head shot, obviously Z313. Same thing from what Connally SAID, but within 3-4 frames or so. He starts falling backward toward Nellie BECAUSE he was shot. 1st shot was just prior to girl stopping.

  • Sorry to break it to you but Oswald was not "well trained" he was actually an average marksman who barely passed the requirement to receive the title of marksman. If he was the only shooter (or the shooter at all) he would have to have loaded, steadied, aimed and fired 3 bullets faster then an expert marine sniper and a gunnery sargent who was the senior sniper instructor for the us marine corp sniper instructor school (Craig Roberts and Carlos Hathcock) could do in a scale reconstruction

  • @SCGATOR2001 - the ONLY way really to be sure when Connally was hit is to look at the frame where HE says where he was hit...HE knows better than anyone. It was as he started moving his head back to the left after looking over his right shoulder. That's what HE said. That is around Z293-5 or so..it's tough to pin down an EXACT frame.

  • @some1sayit - America is FULL of lies, my friend. Stop your "blind faith love" of "America". It doesn't exist and, no, it's not the "greatest country in the world". all the other free countries care about their people and have universal health care....America is based on GREED and killing JFK to get more money for Oil, power to LBJ and big contracts for Brown $ Root (later Halliburton), Bell Helicopter, etc. (all buddies of LBJ). LBJ was about to go to JAIL for murder and corruption. Wake up.

  • @some1sayit - I bet you think Nixon told the truth, too...?? Did you know that Jack Ruby worked for Nixon? No kidding...I have the proof if you need it. Nixon was the "next in line" and JFK stole it, so he was naturally the one picked to follow LBJ. Secret Societies, military industrial complex, dark ops....these are real evil things...huge lies in the American fabric.

  • Sen. Spector is an Israeli apologist... to put a genteel word to it... his perfidy in the JFK coverup, the pointing at Texas 'right wing... ' by Oliver Stone with the same allegiance...or fears... and President Johnson's reaction during the USS Liberty "incident" pulling jets twice on the way to help and telling the admiral in charge that he did care about the USS Liberty (!!) but did not want to embarrass an ally ... Sept. 11/anthrax letters/Iraq Afghanistan/poppy production, Russian Mob

  • nut case

  • I posted several of these videos on UTUBE to see if Americans can understand something as simple as two independent measurements show that the time between three shots is the same in both the Z film and the audio recording, simple probabilities PROVE that they are both valid.

    Most Americans reason that with so much information out there, this FACT could not have been overlooked.

    I'd agree with that but the alternative explanation is you've been lied to for decades.

    4.8 & 0.7 seconds.

  • Saying it another way, you simply can't believe that youi've been made such a fool of.

  • Good post SCGATOR - a good piece of research. Many thanks for your time and hard work.

  • Very interesting theory but it assumes the Zapruder film has not been altered and is in real time to match the audio evidence.Most people concede the film has frames missing and has possibly been slowed down in places.Would the evidence match if the frames were not missing?

  • The conspirators removed/omitted frames but that didn't affect the timing enough to change the 4.8 seconds and 0.7 seconds. The Z film editors dd not know about the Police Recording, that wasn't identified until the HSCA in 1978 and then the HSCA had OVERWHELMING evidence the autopsy information was FORGED so what did they do?

    They did what politicians and lawyers always want to do, they LIED!

  • I don't have to watch your whole video to tell you it's wrong. Kennedy was shot at 225 and you are right about that but you are way off on Connally. He was hit in the back from the back at 236-240.

  • @SCGATOR2001 - Zapruder had copies of the original film. I think he gave LIFE the original plus one copy; one copy to the SS and kept one copy, not sure. Easy to prove if one was tampered with...."they" chose to NOT show it at all, so it wasn't entered into evidence to the WC..!!...can you imagine? An actual FILM of the murder you're investigating and you don't even watch it? Obviously, if the WC watched it, one of them would have said "Hey, he was shot from the FRONT!"...can't have THAT...!!

  • @Tomaji69 "An actual FILM of the murder you're investigating and you don't even watch it?" It's even worse than that. The autopsy photographs were NOT allowed to be viewed by the Warren Commission!  Of course you know there was controversy over location of wounds AND DRAWINGS WERE USED. The drawings were made by an artist talking to a doctor who also could NOT look at the photographs.

    You'd have to be an idiot to not believe the US Gov't was lying.

    WHY LIE? IT was LBJ and Hoover!

  • @bobhopes11 the police recording is unfortunately total static noise.....there is a video up that has it in the SECOND version and another version with shots superimposed where he "thinks" they should be. I dare you to post the video with the ACTUAL dictabelt recording superimosed (nothing added to it) and see if people can hear ANY shots at all. And just the ONE channel, not the chief jumping in on the other channel...just the open mic on Houston St. motorcycle. Sounds like a waterfall.

  • kennedy was shot by a45 pistol the z film was doctored shot from drain. lbj lbj lbj

  • Kennedy was not shot in head from the storm drain. The photo expert who came up with that did not realize that the Zapruder film was altered (that is incredible by itself).

    The reason he didn't get it right is that he couldn't line up the shots per the Mary Moreman photo and the Z film so he came up with the storm drain to reconcile the discrepancy.

    IF you look at the video above, you'll see that the Acoustic Evidence IS valid and therefore we know where 4 of the 5 shots were fired from!

  • If you look at The Men Who Killed Kennedy, a man (Jack Brazil?) is in the drains when a car passes, its very clear that the angle of the head shot is impossible from there.

  • Targen81; have you even seen this video? It is not claiming there was a shot from the drains. However, the most ridiculous conspiracy theory about what happened 22nd November 1963 was forwarded by the government- the Magic Bullet (or Bulls..t) Theory is impossible as there were more fragments removed from Governor Connally´s body than were defect from the "Magic" Bullet, CE 399. You can´t come to any other conclusion than this: Same bullet did not hit both men.

  • Steenville, First of all i have seen alot of movies consering the murder so i might be misstaken, but i do know there is a moive where the same thing as i describe happend. I can look for it and se what movie it is so i publish the right name,

  • Second Steenvile

    I couldn´t agree more here, the most crazy part in it is that the bullet shoul have turned in midair.

    Acctually WC could have stopped much of the theories here, by presenting a good story about the shot.

    Everyone knows that this story is fake, i wonder why the released it, sounds like they didn´t think at all.

  • Targen81; my point about the Magic Bullet was not about the trajectory (of the Magic Bullet). Although it looks to me like Governor Connally is in fact sitting right in front of the President at the time of the alleged Magic Bullet shot (meaning it couldn´t have happened that way) it was the hard evidence of the weight of the fragments that settled it for me, and the most surprising aspect of this is the fact that the info for the weight of the fragments came from the authorities themselves..

  • Connelly was not sitting directly in front of JFK. He was in a jump seat to the left and lower than JFK. Does that mean anything regarding the trajectory of the bullet? Who knows.The limo was a crime scene, why was it not thoroughly examined. It was flown back to DC and repaired before anyone knew what happened. Evidence crucial to the investigation was destroyed. There were bullet holes and bullet fragments, brains and who knows what else in the limo.That evidence might have explained a lot.

  • MILISA99: Conally sits right in front of JFK at the time of the shooting. People like Dale Myers will tell you otherwise but all you have to do is look at the Zapruder film to see that Connally is not sitting slightly to the left- anyway he would have had to sit at the edge in order for the trajectory of the single bullet to work. Furthermore, there were more bullet fragments removed from the Governor alone than were defect in the bullet. And why did they wash the car?..

  • Bugliosi is delusional. Even the House Select Committee finally admitted that JFK was killed as the result of a "probable conspiracy". Only thing is, they've done nothing about it since which is proof positive it was the government that killed him since they never really investigate themselves. People think Bugliosi cracked the Manson case, he did not. One of the Manson women got arrested and did some talking to another woman in jail and the conversation was overheard.

  • Regarding the single bullet, the fact is, there were more fragmants removed from Connally (and they left some in), than there was defect in the "single" bullet. That proves right there that the theory doesn't hold water. When Connally died, there was a request put in to remove the rest of the fragments which of course was met with an extremely negative reaction. That tells me Connally probably knew about the plot in advance. Remember his reaction "THEY are going to kill us all."

  • Great post, JoanOfArc14! Exactly- you nailed it right there. But even in the face of this hard evidence the government still sticks to their lying Single Bull.... Theory.. and that is why many people around the World have stopped believing anything that comes out of the US government, because they are so obviously speaking against better knowledge.

  • Bill, great stuff, thanks for posting. Maybe the liberal nature of Obama will lead to more transparency over the coming months and years.

    How are you getting on with the shot that hit JFK in the neck, from the left front. The windscreen hole was a through and through front to back.

    Keep up the great work!

  • I contacted the Obama campaign headquarters 3 times and spoke with 3 different people. I told them that this story is not going away and the people will not rest until justice is done. I also told them to expect demand for another 9/11 investigation as well. Do you think our government told us the truth about that?? Fat chance. 9/11 Report same as Warren Report just 40 something years later. 9/11 is an exact duplicate of Operation Northwoods which was planned during the 60s.

  • JoanOfArc14: I think Obama is on autopilot concerning this case (if he even gives a sh.. about it). His masters have told him that we are all racists and crazy conspiracy theorists and that is what he believes, I guess. Nevermind the evidence (Single Bullet has been scientifically disproved), Obama just doesn´t care and has his mind set on setting up the youth brigades while helping Wall Street and the Fed to steal more money from the people..

  • Steenville, he cannot ignore 9/11. There is more evidence that it was an inside job than even the JFK case. Holder keeps stalling on hiring a special prosecutor to go after Bush/Cheney. I have written him twice and I told him that if he doesn't go after them then he and Obama both will have violated their oath to the Constitution. They need to get off the birth certificate crap and go after the real stuff. Bush/Cheney in orange jumsuits, I won't rest til I see that picture.

  • Obama has already taken the same stand regarding 9/11 as Bush- it doesn´t seem likely to me that he will change his mind here- and regarding JFK I can easily see him taking the same stand while laughing and joking at the "conspiracy theorists" and at the same time preparing new laws, limiting the freedom of speech for people with other opinions than the US governments´.. sadly. I like your picture of Bush/Cheney in orange suits, detained at Guantanamo indefinitely.. :-)

  • Personally, I'd like to see them sentenced to permanent janitorial duty on Wall Street, having to scrub the urinals and toilets. It goes along with my "garbage in garbage out" philosophy.

    As for Obama since he hired so many Clintonians in his administration, he will be devoured by them. They didn't take losing the election lightly. They are out for blood. Remember Hilary's "maybe he could end up like RFK" comment during the campaign.

  • Targen81,

    I am assuming you are responding to something I wrote because your comment came to my email. I haven't the slightest idea what you are trying to say. If you are going to be a theorist or make a statement of any kind, please speak in coherent sentences so that your point will not get lost in the fog.

  • Targen81: Hard evidence of 9/11 controlled demolition; See the Niels Harrit-video here on YouTube.

  • Good luck Obama=puppet

  • What I find the most ironic is the person who came up with the magic bullet theory was a staff attorney who ended up becoming a US Senator was just trying to create a story that would make the implausible become plausible. He was not a scientist who analyzed ballistics or acoustics. He was a lawyer with zero training in either of these sciences. The only thing he had any knowledge of was subterfuge. Every person who knows this was a conspiracy needs to question Sen. Specters credibility!!!!!!!

  • great work bill,thank you!

  • Nice to see you post your thoughts Bill. A really powerful argument.

  • Exactly, SCGATOR2001- the government has gone out of their way to keep the public confused. And if you presented them with your videos they would wait 2 years before commenting on them, before they dismiss you as "conspiracy theorist". The government and the Presidency is as stubborn as ever in claiming Oswald was the lone nut assassin, who killed JFK. I don´t think he even pulled a trigger that day. The government is afraid the US would fall apart as a house of cards if they admit anything..

  • I have never tried to figure out WHO fired shots, I only want to know WHO ordered it and WHO obstructed justice. Once you know that the government investigations are a joke it narrows it down nicely, doesn't it?

    The government will come out and say "something" but who cares to listen to liars? They have to lie, the Press has no incentive to tell the truth either, look at the silliness they put on TV for "documentaries."

    They will only tell us the truth when we laugh at them and their lies.

  • The government have plans for people who question the official story here.. if things continue to go in the direction of more thought policing (Cyberbullying Act) and Obama´s insane youth brigades, now passed and on the way to implementation, I could easily see a future where people like us would be labeled "Thought Criminals" or "Thought Terrorists" for criticising the US government..

  • I agree with your synopsis. I believe Permindex was primarily involved in setting up the hit. The CEO was a hardcore Zionist and active in the intelligence world. All the other groups I believe benefitted from the murder all had ties to Permindex. LBJ, Hoover,MIC HL Hunt, CIA, JointChiefs, Mossad, Organized Crime, Fed Reserve Nixon etc.Did I mention that the Zionists including the crime boss Meyer Lansky and Jack Ruby needed JFK dead in order for Israels' nuclear weapons program to move forward.

  • ive heard of permidex but forget what it is, can u tell me>? thanks

  • Permindex was a trade organization that was a front which certain intelligence agencies used to launder money and finance dubious schemes. Louis Bloomfield a zionist with a background in intelligence was CEO. The principals in the company were also involved with the CMC and were accused of the DeGaulle assassination attempt at which time the CMC fled Europe and set up in South Africa. Intelligence needed a way to launder all the drug money from the heroin and other nefarious plots.

  • To believe that others were involved in the hit besides LBJ and J Edgar Hoover, to convince me I have to understand why J Edgar Hoover obstructed the investigations as he did. I need to understand why LBJ said the things he did to his mistress hours before the murder.

    I'd like to understand why even today the US Government obstructs justice if it was intelligence agencies, Zionists.... whoever.

    It makes sense the US Government would lie to hide LBJ/Hoover+ their fingerprints are on the lie.

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