Yosef Ben Matityahu (Josephus) Roman portrait bust

[s76yu]

Lastly, to put it in simple words....The Jews were Foreigners in all of Eastern Europe...believe it or not, most Europeans knew and believed this fact then and hundreds of years before that time. The Jews were extremely prosperous wherever they went..including Germany. One of hitlers most famous speeches told of how the Jews Came to Germany from the Middle East, with nothing, they prospered and flourished and now they need to be dealt with. "Do not take what is my right" in other words.

[s76yu]

Not only do Sephardic and Ashkenazim share very similar DNA, they are more closely related than the people in the countries they had resided in for hundreds of years.

A great example of Jews being considered a race...and this is the most major of them...HITLER. Jews were not murdered in Germany and much of Eastern Europe because of Religion. The Nazi's "Knew" the jews were foreigners from another country and this is one of the main reasons they were mass murdered.

[s76yu]

Um...Princematt7...You are absolutely wrong. Jews are considered a race. By most people they are considered a race. You are simply talking of Logic and what a logical mind may think...humans are absolutely illogical. It may be Jewish Law that defines Jewish Identity. You are also incorrect about Jewish Genetics. Genetics has already proven that both Sephardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews...although seperate from each other for hundreds of years do share major Genetic Similarities.

[CrackerJackLee]

i take it that this was before jewish nose-bobs were invented...

[Princematt7]

as the Lakota nation has tribal procedure and law to determine who is a memberof their tribe, who is not, who is expelled and who is adopted, so does Judaism..

[Princematt7]

Torah calls us the covenant NATION many times.

[Princematt7]

The Jewish Bible ( Tanakh ) tells from the beginning book to the end that the righteous of all nations ( Jew or Gentile ) have the capacity to connect directly to God, merit blessing and a place in the world to come. Every human is equal before God according to the Jewish religion. Atonement is directly from God. Shalom

[Princematt7]

The covenant people, Israel have been MULTIRACIAL since the days of Torah, Moses' wife, Zipporah was a black woman. There have been Ethiopian Beta Yisrael since the days of Solomon! And I repeat, one cannot convert to a race. One may convert and become fully Jewish.

[Princematt7]

It is against Jewish law for any Jew to discriminate against a convert to Judaism. Since the time of the Torah converts have been accepted as fully Jewish, and this is the case in all branches. We are not even supposed to refer to the fact that they are converts! It is up to them if they wish to identify themselves as such. They are Jews, period.

[Princematt7]

You can become a member of a tribe or nation if you meet the criteria of citizenship. And the covenant people, Klal Yisrael, remain as in the earliest days of the covenant..a nation. It hasn't changed.

Reform Judaism (of which I am a member) will consider as Jewish one whose father is a Jew IF the child was RAISED in Judaism actively and exclusively. 

[Princematt7]

A Jew who converts to Hare Krishna is just as apostate, but there exists no Jews for Hare Krishna or Hare Krishna Judaism evangelical groups spending millions of dollars a year in campaigns to convert secular Jews by convincing them it is a form of Judaism

[Princematt7]

Jews are in NO way a RACE..other than as members of the human race.

When a Jew adopts a belief that is in conflict with the Jewish religion, the belief does NOT become a " Jewish belief" just because a Jew chooses to believe in it. THAT is the conflict Jews have with the Christians who call themselves Jews if they deceptively try to present their Christian belief AS Judaism.

[Princematt7]

One who has left the Jewish people for the foreign faith of another people must undergo the steps of TESHUVAH , which means repentance and return to the God of Israel. Some groups may require that the individual also requires immersion in the mikveh before being accepted back, but they do not require the formal steps of conversion should the person wish to return.

[Princematt7]

According to Jewish law they're not counted in a minyan,( the minimum number of adults required for certain prayers and other mitzvot), they can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery, they cannot be given honors to go up to read Torah at a synagogue, and they may not be allowed to speak for the Jewish people. They CAN however, return without formal conversion should they repent of their idolatrous or foreign god worship and then be embraced again as full members.

[Princematt7]

Now if one born into the covenant becomes apostate through rejection of the covenant by adoption of another belief contradictory to the covenant, they are still be considered a Jew, but for all intents and purposes, they're not given the status of a member.

[Princematt7]

. An atheist Jew may live Jewish ethics and identify with their people, but they did not take on foreign beliefs contradictory to the monotheism of Torah and become “estranged“ from the Jewish people. An atheist may not convert *to* Judaism to become a member of the tribe because an affirmation of faith in the God of Israel is required to JOIN.

[Princematt7]

One born a member of the tribal covenant nation Israel (Jewish) may not be observant or even believe in God and they’re still a full member, a Jew. They may not be a good member or an active member but they’ve not renounced membership by following something ELSE instead of Judaism. An atheist or a secular Jew is not trying to call something ELSE Judaism. That is how one may be an "atheist Jew". Not believing that there is such a thing as deity, any deity is not following a false deity.

[Princematt7]

he Jewish nation began as a group of tribes and our connection to one another is still from the perspective of a tribal nation. (example: as the Lakota nation has tribal procedure and law to determine who is a member of their tribe, who is not, who is expelled and who is adopted, so does Judaism)

[Princematt7]

and while that is how we relate to one another, other rabbis say that we should not redefine our identity based on the fact that some people confuse the definition of a nation people, with a nation state, or courtry. Further complicating this detail is the State of Israel. Israelis are citizens of Israel and may or may not be of the covenant nation people, Israel. See important definitions at the bottom.

[Princematt7]

However, one may technically be a Jew if their mother is a Jew, but apostate to the covenant of Israel and no longer considered a member of the nation if they leave it for the covenant of faith of another religion. A few rabbis have suggested that rather than identify the Jewish people as a nation, as the Torah itself calls us directly, we refer to ourselves as “family”..

[Princematt7]

The Jewish people are considered both a nation and a religion. Our connection is primarily one of faith (religion) through the covenant of Israel, yet membership is also conferred by birth, through matrilineal descent. One may also become a part of the nation Israel by adoption of the faith of Judaism and formal procedures of conversion.

One who converts to Judaism is considered as FULLY Jewish as one born Jewish and their children are Jews. This has been the case since the times of the Torah.

[Princematt7]

There are many ethnicities that are distinctly Jewish. There are the Mizrahi (from the Middle East and North Africa).The Sephardi (Spanish) and the Ashkenazi, (German, Polish, Russian and other Eastern European), the Beta Yisrael of Ethiopia, and the Cochin of India and others that are each different as to cultural practices and foods, but it is the faith and covenant that binds them all together as Klal Yisrael.

[Princematt7]

We are Klal Yisrael, the community of Israel. . *MANY* different and distinctly Jewish cultures and ethnicities have developed over the millennia in Diaspora lands. The Diaspora refers to the Jewish presence outside of Israel after the destruction of the First and Second Temple periods and the Bar Kochba revolt.

[Princematt7]

People related to one another share genetic markers. The Hebrews had no concept of genetics. Jews began as a family, then as a small group of tribes and has remained tribal in nature. However, Jews are NOT considered a race. Jews are not *an* ethnicity. There is simply no *single* Jewish ethnicity. Neither ethnicity or race define Jewish identity. I repeat, it is Jewish law that defines Jewish identity.

[Princematt7]

Jews are a nation people, Israel (tribal origin) bound by an eternal covenant of the faith (religion) of Judaism. It is the laws of Judaism, given by God to the covenant nation, Israel, in the Torah, that determine Jewish identity. It is not a matter of “blood” but of self-determination through the laws of the Jewish people. I know that sounds repetitive but I repeated that because that appears hard for some to grasp.

[Voiceofknowledge]

When you try to make peace with ignorance you get war. When you try to smile you get a frown. When you love you receive hate. When you compliment you receive insults. When you speak the truth you get lies. I understand sir that you don't like me or care for anything I say but I ask you this one question if you are so confident in your heritage why do you continue wasting your time arguing with others over your heritage. If this makes you are proud then be proud and forget what others have to say

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge " if you are so confident in your heritage why do you continue wasting your time arguing with others over your heritage"

Simple. This is a public forum. There are young impressionable minds who come to youtube and read this kind of slander about my people. Young minds that dont know any better. And this kind of slander has been used time and time again to whip people up to attack Jews, again and again. When Hitler spewed his poison, no one argued with him. THAT's why I do

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge Hateful? What and whom have I directed any hatred towards You want someone spewing hate, look in the mirror you pathetic hypocrite.

Live off the name? Do you think people give you things for being Jewish, or what? Probably never existed? LOL. You have the education and common sense of a 7 year old. There is no doubt that ancient Judea existed. There are historical records, ruins, etc. It was a part of the Roman Empire eventually. Where do you think the Bible comes from, fool?

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge Before you wanted to argue with me based on the Bible. I notice you dont have any answer to the Biblical passages I posted. So not only do you know nothing about history & archaeology, or biology & genetics, but you dont even know the Bible all that well. The idea that the Jews were chosen by God to receive the Torah, etc, is the basis of all Abrahamic religions. Islam and Christianity do not even make sense otherwise. So what exactly is your point, other than racism?

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

"The DNA crap is the same as the " world is flat" theory. "

LOL, No, DENYING the proven FACT of genetic science is PRECISELY like claiming the world is flat when we know its round, imbecile.

What does modern medical science have to with "white supremacist propaganda"? What kind of ignorant rhetorical stupidity is that? There are scientists in every nation around the world of every race and color. They ALL use the same same DNA science, and would laugh at your ignorance.

[Voiceofknowledge]

@chained2it I love you brother believe it or not and I have nothing against your heritage. I hope that you and your people can continue to grow in faith. Oh and if you really want to talk about scriptures and see how much I know then respond to me and I will give you a party line number and we can meet in a room and discuss these thing. I know you may respond with rude and hateful commentst but I love you anyway. Take care buddy.

P.S. I graduated HS and I paid attention in my classes.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge Do you know what this video is about, fool? That's a Roman sculpture of the head of Josephus, a Jew from Judea around the time of Jesus who was a war prisoner of the Romans and became a famous historian for them. He wrote a lot of very famous books, 2000 years ago, Maybe you;ve heard of him, lol.

And notice how much he looks like a lot of modern Jews today? Funny how that works.

[Voiceofknowledge]

@chained2it You know something I gave you what you wanted. I am not racist and I know my bible pretty well. It's funny, when I came at you respectfully with facts you criticized me by calling me a "drunken preacher". I didn't say anything mean or hateful towards you in the beginning but you were quick to prejudge me. Then when I flipped the script you were quick to say you never said anything hateful towards me and the called me a hypocrite. Wow brother. That was an experiment and it worked.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge Are you kidding me now? After the blatantly racist and hateful comments you made towards Jews? Now you claim it was all insincere? You revealed your true face, and it was filled with hatred. I did not judge you in any way before that. I called yo a drunken preacher because I was having a dispassionate discussion about historical facts, and you preaching the gospel. It was like 2 different conversations. But after your racist tirades, I think we have nothing else to discuss

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge '". I didn't say anything mean or hateful towards you in the beginning "

I did not say anything mean or hateful to you until you directed such comments towards me. Nothing. And I never said a single racist or bigoted thing about anyone. Unlike you. And now you claim it was an "experiment". How dishonest. What were you expecting? For me to off on a racist tirade like you? And now you;ve closed your account? What a fraud

[Voiceofknowledge]

@chained2it I know the truth. I am very well skilled in ancient civilizations and history. I honestly wanted to see your reaction to bigotry and hateful comments. You were already very defensive from the start. Calm down brother it isn't that serious. One thing I can say about all humans is this: We are all born and we will all die. Jews are great people. I have some wonderful Jewish friends who so happen to be Ashkenazi. I apologize for disrespecting you but please try not to be so rude Lol.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

'honestly wanted to see your reaction to bigotry and hateful comments"

Really? How convenient. So basically, you're dishonest?

' You were already very defensive from the start"

Of course I am. Most people on this page hate Jews. And you chose to argue with me, the one Jew here, rather than anyone else. That said it all. And when I asked you why you only had words for me, you were silent. I gave you no disrespect until you disrespected me an my people

[Voiceofknowledge]

Is your heart pleasing in the sight of G-d? Are you giving to the poor or clothing the naked? Are you leading by example and inspiring the youth in your community? Are you loving humanity and working towards the enlightenment of all man-kind? Are you making time for the disadvantage kids who live all around this world? We all face problems and NO-ONE is greater then anyone else. My question to you and all who read this is WHERE IS YOUR HEART?? For that is what matters to God. One love.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge "Are you making time for the disadvantage kids who live all around this world?"

That has nothing to do with what we are discussing, Do not presume to preach to me. We are simply debating historical facts. We're not debating what matters to God. Stick to the subject.

"NO-ONE is greater then anyone else."

And no one has claimed anyone is greater than anyone else. Jews do not believe themselves to be better than anyone. Chosen for a special obligation does not mean greater.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge "Is your heart pleasing in the sight of G-d?"

Is YOURS? Who are you to ask such a question? And why do you direct it at me and not others? Are you a missionary to the Jews?

"are you loving humanity and working towards the enlightenment of all man-kind?"

Again, are YOU?

You ask to discuss dispassionately and without emotion, and then you go off like a drunken preacher. If you cant have an objective discussion about history, thats not my problem

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge Judaism is as "solid and unchanged" as any religion is. But all religions grow and evolve over so many centuries. The 1600s? You have no clue what you are talking about.

As far as DNA, please, dont make me laugh. Let me guess, you never graduated high school? Just never paid attention in biology class? LOL. You clearly have zero education about genetics. I'll defer to what science can PROVE to be true, regardless of what any primitive-minded medieval fool "believes"

[Voiceofknowledge]

An example of people converting to hebraism because of the Jews is found in the book of Esther 8:17. My point is very simple, G-d isn't concerned about your bloodline or facial features but he is concerned about your heart. Abraham is blessed with descendants in many nations of the world(Genesis 26:4,Exodus 32:13). Why? Because G-d is faithful to his word. Know who you are and seek not vain arguments over genealogies. We are dust of the earth and we shall return to the earth.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge The word is Judaism not Hebraism. And of course people have converted to it over the centuries. And in doing so, they joined in with other Jews and added their own lineages to the bloodline. Anyone can convert and join the tribe. Their descendants will share the lineage of Isaac.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

Physical features are irrelevant. But the Bible does specifically and explicitly state the Covenant is for those of specific bloodline. But that doesnt mean God's blessings are not for all. God set the Israelites apart and gave them a mission, That mission is stated in the Covenant. God's blessings are for all mankind. But the Bible states that God has a special relationship with the Israelites, and that it can be a blessing OR a curse.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge "G-d isn't concerned about your bloodline "

When it comes to the Covenant, the Bible says God is indeed concerned with lineage. It states that the Covenant was for Abraham and his descendants, but only through Isaac, not Ishmael. And from Isaac descendants, only Jacob (Israel) and not Esau. It says this explicity. That doesnt make Israelites better than anyone. It simply means those of the Covenant have unique obligations towards God that others do not, just as a priest does

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

"G-d isn't concerned about your bloodline "

This is what the Bible says on the subject of the Covenant and bloodlines

Genesis 17:7

"And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your offspring after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you"

You can argue with the Bible if you wish, but thats what it says. And it continues with more on the subject

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

Genesis 17:9-10

Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you'

But the Bible also makes clear that the Covenant is not for ALL Abraham's descendants, but only through Isaac's lineage, as it states in Genesis 17:19-21, and through Isaac to Jacob

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

Genesis 17:19-21

" Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. But my covenant I will establish with Isaac"

[chained2it]

@chained2it

Genesis 17:19-21 clearly and explicitly states that the Covenant only applies to the bloodline of Isaac. That has nothing to do with being greater than anyone. Just as the High Priests of the ancient Temple of Jerusalem carried certain obligations towards God that lay people did not. The Jews are essentially God's nation of High Priests. That does not make them better or worse than anyone. Just as someone "chosen" for any obligation like military service or jury duty is not greater

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

" The Babylonian Talmud is one of the most racist and corrupted documents "

You have no idea what the Talmud is or what it really says. And the central part of the Talmud, the Mishnah, was written in the Holy Land (in the Galilee) just like the Bible was, around the 2nd century AD. The rest was compiled in Babylon 500 years later.

" typical attitude of a arrogant Jew"

typical statement of an ignorant racist

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge Ahhh, so now the real you shines through. Speak your mind, brother. So much for your "God loves us all" rhetoric. Go ahead and reveal all your prejudices and bigotries, your ignorance and embrace of stereotypes. You cannot extract any of your nonsense from my words, yet you continue to argue against points I did not make, And now you reveal yourself to be no more than a petty hypocrite with the same loathesome views of Jews as any other ignorant racist. Sad and pathetic

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

"Jewish people are nothing more than a bunch of people who arrogantly promote themselves over every other branches of humanity in the name of a God that they stole from other cultures."

What an absolutely hateful and racist statement.

" a lot of people that cause trouble in this modern age have been European Jews."

"I would never want to be apart of a group of wicked people such as the Jews."

etc. etc.

Nothing but pure bigotry and racism. What a fraudulent hypocrite u are

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge "I was trying to make peace"

You were? With whom? How?

" but you people love war and strife."

Oh, of course. Its in the Talmud. We celebrate war and strife, the sweet stuff of life. Imbecile

[Voiceofknowledge]

within this gigantic family that we are all apart of God chose a tribe for himself so that all the world may know his righteous name. This group of people became known as the Israelites. Again my friend his choice had nothing to do with any external features. This group that he chose for himself was to be a a nation filled with kings and priest. They were to be a light unto the nations and through their obedience to God all the nations of this earth would be blessed(Genesis 22:18)

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

" Again my friend his choice had nothing to do with any external features."

And again I ask you for about the 5th time now, where have I said otherwise? You are arguing against a point i never made. Others have made race an issue here, not me. So why do you continue to argue with me and against a viewpoint I have not expressed? Are you talking to me, or to yourself?

[Voiceofknowledge]

Abraham our forefather was not chosen by God because of his skin complexion, hair color, height, weight ect but because of his heart. That is what God looks for in all people despite your nationality or "race". Haven't you read what is written in the scripture(1 Samuel 16:7). It is written that we are all descendants of adam and eve and later Noah and his three sons. Therefore we are apart of one gigantic family and all of us are made in the image of G-d.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge "Abraham our forefather was not chosen by God because of his skin complexion"

I am aware of that. And that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I have said. My argument is simply that so-called "white" Jews of today are just that - Jews, the descendants of the ancient Israelites. Of course Abraham was not chosen for physical reasons. And only a racist would say otherwise. But the Israelites were a nation, like any other nation, from a particular set of tribes

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge "It is written that we are all descendants of adam and eve and later Noah and his three sons"

Yes, but that is religion, not history. And again, it has nothing to do with the topic. Even accepting the Biblical account, how is that relevant? We are not all Chinese. We are not all Bantu. We are not all Indian, Russian, Scandinavian, etc. And we are not all Israelites. Its as simple as that, and that has nothing to do with God. We're talking about a nation of people, not God

[Voiceofknowledge]

Please people remember that all history belongs to mankind and that we are ONE.

[vinikorn7]

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[AmericanFireBrand]

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[yessir718]

sorry for this failed attempt. How do YOU know that this is an accurate depiction of Josephus??? Read his book The Wars of The Jews and find out that he documented that over 1,000,000 Hebrews fled into "Africa". Ancient Historians can give you the truth about the Hebrews......We have bas-reliefs in Assyria, Babel and paintings of us in Egypt during all our captivities.....One day soon people will know that Yahuwah has not forsaken us....this nonsense will go on for a little while longer...

[Tuphut]

@yessir718 Can you give me any source of your paintings in egypt and your bas-reliefs in Assyria, Babel

[chained2it]

@yessir718 "he documented that over 1,000,000 Hebrews fled into "Africa""

Yes, to NORTH Africa, where Jewish communities have existed for thousands of years, like on the island of Djerba.

[bansadok]

@chained2it Sure, according to Torah, nevim & Ketuvim the hebrews always ran south when they were in trouble, Egypt greater, lower and upper, and even ethiopia but accoring to you scholarly "desearch", ah mean research, they only and finally went north...another wiki-armchair historian and intellectual!

[chained2it]

@bansadok What does the Torah have to do with events of 70 AD, fool? It is a matter of historical record that Jews fled to North Africa, where well-known Jewish communities have lived for thousands of years, Wikipedia? LOL As if. Look it up yourself, anywhere. Obviously, you know nothing of North African or Jewish history for the last 2000 years. Yes, many fled to Egypt, until Egypt expelled them in the 1960s and they fled to Israel. They dont look much different than European Jews either

[chained2it]

@bansadok Jews have lived on the Tunisian island of Djerba for thousands of years. The oldest continually used synagogue in the world is there, along with a Jewish community that has existed there since biblical times. Funny how none of them are black, or ANY of the Jews of North Africa and the middle east. How about Persian Jews. who have been there since biblical times, as recounted in the Book of Esther? They arent black either

[Voiceofknowledge]

@chained2it It really doesn't matter if they were dark skinned or very paled all that matters is the morals and values of this group of people. Genetically we are all related. Jews are all across the globe and come in many different shades and sizes. The Lemba tribe of south africa are also jewish and they have very dark skin. "There is one [non-Jewish] group, however, for whom DNA analysis has provided a direct link to the Jews of biblical times. These are the Lemba."

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge "The Lemba tribe of south africa are also jewish and they have very dark skin."

Of course. The Lemba are descendants of Jews who came to Africa from Yemen, about 800 AD or so. Probably to escape Muslim persecution at the time. Probably not more than a dozen Jewish men or so, from the genetic record. They married local African women, and to this day no man is allowed to marry into the Lemba, only women. That's why they're black but have preserved their Jewish genetic lineage

[Voiceofknowledge]

@chained2it My point is simple, the Israelites were/are a very big family whose descendants are more numerous than the stars in the sky(Genesis 26:4). So never limit a promise and blessing of God to one particular group, skin color, eye color, hair type ect. You are very knowledgeable and I'm sure that you are very familiar with this information. So in closing love all, appreciate all and bless all. Peace unto you my friend.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge

Regardless of whatever you may interpret Genesis 26:4 to mean, the fact is that the Israelites were in fact never a very numerous people. Israel was a small nation. That's why it was vulnerable to foreign conquest so often in its history. And 10 of the 12 tribes were scattered by Assyria and lost to history. The only descendants of the Israelites known to history are the Jews

[Voiceofknowledge]

@chained2it Okay lets establish this before I comment any further. I am not going to argue about an ancient civilization. I will only make statements that I can back with the holy scripture. Also God is the one and only that can make all hidden things known to us. So let us reason together not based off emotion but off of truth. Let me began with basic knowledge so that this "race" situation can be squashed.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge THis debate is about the Israelite people of history, not what it says in scripture. If we are talking about history, then talk about history, not religion. History and religion are 2 different subjects/ Israelites were people, like any other people, not the walking repository of all things Biblical. The Bible is the holy book that came to the rest of the world from them. I am not conversing with you out of knowledge, not emotion.

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge "I am not going to argue about an ancient civilization."

But that is indeed what we are discussing, the people of an ancient civilization known as Israel, and later as Judea. The subject of this video is about a historical person, not a figure of the Bible. Josephus is not mentioned in the Bible. We know him from history, He was, in fact, a historian. And this is a historical debate, not a biblical one. You're inserting your own agenda here

[chained2it]

@Voiceofknowledge And it also means that Jews face God's wrath for failing to honor the Covenant, for failing to do what Gentiles are not obliged by God to do. It is a 2-edged sword.

[Kerasounta]

classical like ben stiller!i see in 2 seconds if someone is jewish!like the most people see that iam greek!if you are an original of your race or folk this is the resume!its ok!big nose and ears not only jewish have it!the eyes are important some arabs have the same skull cause they are semites too!

[bansadok]

@Kerasounta modernJews..."They are predominantly brachycephalic, or broad-headed, while the Semites of Arabic origin are invariably dolichocephalic, or long-headed" (Jew. Enc. X (1905), 284). Semites have been long-headed, but the modern Jews were predominantly round-headed... the racial origins of the Jews, not with the Semites, whose language they adopted, but ...Hittites of Mesopotamia, whose broad skulls and curved noses they appear to have inherited" (Jew. Enc. X (1905), 284)... Shalowm.

[chained2it]

@bansadok Umm., according to DNA, which is the only legit biological scientific means of determining ancestry, European Jews are primarily of middle eastern ancestry. According to the National Academy of Science and every other institution that studied it

[chained2it]

@bansadok Gee, anthropological racist garbage from 100 years ago. How relevant.

How quaint. What's next? Nazi theories of German racial superiority? Or of black inferiority? The 1905 Jewish Encyclopdia, eh? Bullshit. See if you can find a single copy of any Jewish Encyclopedia that actually says any such thing. It says nothing about any skull measurements anywhere. You are quoting an internet fraud. You dont have a copy from 1905, liar

[TheOriginalemoticon]

Look at that SCHNAZ ! Chicks probably loved it

[42playaz]

Propaganda. I'm just suppose your word of this, because wikipedia says so. This is not proof.

[chained2it]

Propaganda my ass. This bust has been around for many centuries. Wikipedia did not invent it. Try looking it up instead of foolishly accusing people of "propaganda". This is common knowledge

[bansadok]

@chained2it the phrase "Common knowledge" is often used by arrogant people who think that because something is accepted by themselves or their little circle as a fact, that that information is undisputed and indisputable. They go so far in assuming that once its on the internet, Wikipedia, et.c then it must be true! My friend the fact that you are shouting that it's common knowledge proves that it isn't common knowledge . Peace.

[chained2it]

@bansadok "They go so far in assuming that once its on the internet, Wikipedia, '

No, perhaps YOU think the internet is an actual source for info, but it only refers to OTHER sources

[juanamary999]

cleary not black for all you black hebrew israelites

[bansadok]

@juanamary999 Seems that we are listened to, we make impressions and we set a standard. Thanks for the confirmation. May YAH help us to raise our standard higher as the Yaphetim-Jews and the rest of the goyim look on. Shalowm Alaikhem.