@jabba12000 you are incorrect sir, that mustang is not supercharged. it would have at least 2 seconds off that 13.7 quarter mile time with a supercharger.
1st race: damn, fast little nissan 2nd race: theres a shocker... somebody in a eclipse doesnt know how to drive!! 3rd race: its a awd infinity with turbo right? it would be sad if it DIDNT run that time haha
Actually, not fuck American cars you rude little bitch. The new maxima you speak of has a couple decades newer technology in it. And barely performs better than that classic fox body. I know. I have one. And btw idiot, the comparable in age model of that same awesome pony, comes stock with over a hundred more hp than the maxima. If your iq is your shoe size don't comment. Jagoff
the funny thing is nissan is building family cars with 32mpg and 290hp 4 doors and running low 13 high 12 seconds off the lot stock fuck american cars
@heihachi77 flawless logic! In this case, 2+2=4 but all you have to do is say "Well if that fucking 2 was still just a 1 then 1+2 would have equaled 3" and it's as if the Mustang didn't get beaten by a 4 banger! Capital sir! You are a genius!
@heihachi77 look at the trap speed of the silvia... 105. it traps like a stock sr20det. silvia also has no front mount. the good launch at the line means it could be the s14 sr cause of the torque it had. that silvia(its not really a silvia but w/e) is nowhere near heavily modded at all. i would call it close to stock.
and finally you can never get the deep throaty rumble of a muscle car to have any comparison with the whining pitchy scream of a tuner. never will happen and no matter what an american V8 like my stang will always sound way more intimidating than that little scream like a chipmunk getting run over by a car
@Petoria2K8 the whining pitchy scream? you must be thinking of hondas. sr's sound way different. you probably think just cuz a honda sounds one way, then all imports sound the same. sr's may not sound as deep as a muscle car but definately not like a honda.
thats cool bro ill im saying and you can try and refute all you want but what it comes down to is as an american i support american brand cars. i also support spending as little money as possible on a car while seeking as much fun out of it as possible.
oh yea i forgot to add, i also lost to a boosted 5.0 mustang by 1 car. 15-60ish and i was in 2nd gear (his torque got me, i should have dumped the clutch). top end he wasnt even pulling on me. he didn't want to race again afterwards.
So from what I can tell here... Tuner fans hate muscle cars because of the people that drive them. And muscle car fans hate imports because of the people that drive them, the sound they make, the fact that they can be built for cheap, and they're good on gas. How about we all keep our opinions to ourselves and talk about how quick that Infinite was. Btw... I like Imports and Muscle cars. So suck it.
some people are stupid.... the mustang is a light sports car packing a 5.0L V8.
if its old ass fuck and the guy never restored the engine i can see why it lost. if it was a re-built or new engine, running 13.1 is a tad slow, i've seen them run as fast as 12.2 stock.
as for thoes other cars, you ricer fanboys are retarded go learn a thing or two about cars that slivia is FAR from stock, and that infinity is running faster than most avrage cars 13.4 in an SUV ha a civic couldent pull that off
@CemetaryGatesML lol, 12.2 stock!! the new mustang gt 2011 run a 12.7 stock which is impressive and to believe the 90 5.0 mustang to run a 12.2 is a joke. i believe those run 14.9 stock. if that s14 has a stock s14 sr20det. all it needs is 550 injectors and a tune and it would be running 12.5 at the quarter mile close to stock. you sir need to learn about what your talking about.
@Cisco121490 hey man its all on thr driver. reaction time is EVERYTHING. actualy waiting for the tree is very unaccurate. if you got a high end chip in ur car, ur can set it to run the QTR mile. all you gotta do is find a qtr mile strait road and run all out, second u hit the peddle, is when it starts the qtr mile.
@CemetaryGatesML The time doesnt start until you start. you can stay at the light for 10 seconds then go and still do a 13 second run. at the track, its all about traction. thats why some people bring slicks and heat up the tires. i bet you the mustang you saw was not stock.
@CemetaryGatesML do some research first. your just making a fool of yourself. i go to the track every once in a while and i know the time doesnt start until you go. i have raced a stock 5.0 mustang and smoked him. it was stock just had a cold air intake and my car is not a 12 second car. i raced a boosted 5.0 mustang the other day and he got me by a car. 15-90mph. do some research and come back and try to argue. maybe ur talking about the 1/8 of a mile. makes more sense there.
@nustangchristian im just stating the facts, yep my 3.5k car is in the 13s. soon the low 12s with injectors, t28 turbo, and a tune. keeping my car reliable and decent quick. imports are ideal for various type of races. not just in a straight line. ;)
@Cisco121490 Ok so...what you are telling me is that you need various mods plus a turbo just to beat a stock mustang....hahahahahahaha Pathetic. Has it ever ocurred to you that if the mustang was turbo and had the same mods as you, the mustang would win? . Youre just like any typical ricer, trying to downgrade what should and is a REAL race car just because you can't afford it hahahahaha
@nustangchristian i have a STOCK sr20det. from japan. not upgraded at all. Just a front mount and an exhaust. like i said i raced a boosted mustang from 15mph. Took me forever to boost. He only got me because of the torque. if we would of raced from 35 or 55 it would have been a different story. on the top end he wasnt even pulling on me. but a win is a win. when i said 3.5 k that means 500 was for the shell and 2k for the engine and another 1k for piping front mount, exhaust, oil, etc.
@Cisco121490 WOOWW!! so you lost to a stock but sprayed mustang vs. a supposed aftermarket engine tuned with exhaust system....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA still pathetic. You wasted your money ricer. You should of bought a 5.0 mustang and you get better performance, better sound, better everything and get real girls hahahahaha. V8 are meant for a reason and that's for racing and reliability.
@nustangchristian how did you come up with a sprayed mustang? BOOSTED! meaning forced induction mustang or a mustang with a turbo.... how is an sr20det an aftermarket engine when it comes from a factory. the s13 were meant to come with sr20det but were denied in the US for various reasons. sounds like you have no idea what your talking about. Bet your a little kid supporting your daddies car. the mustang is priced well above 3.5k. i have no idea what you meant by "you wasted your money"
@nustangchristian btw, fords are known to break down all the time. why you think some mustangs are being powered by chevy motors.... for better reliability and better power. when it comes to reliability import wins hands down. i see more fords on the side of the road than imports. my car is factory tuned. still needs dyno tune and it will run even better. the only racing a ford can do from factory is in a straight line. try curcuit, rally, and drifting and tell me how it does lol.
@Cisco121490 who gives a shit, be a man and fix your car, regardless of "reliability" what really matters is stock vs stock who's car has the power and the balls to smash? not a rice rocket, thats for sure rofl
@Petoria2K8 another ignorant closed minded fool. MY ENGINE IS STOCK. STOCK ENGINE FROM JAPAN. its the original engine that came with the s13 but were banned in the US due to emission crap. stock t25 turbo, stock clutch, stock internals, stock injectors, only upgrade is an exhaust and front mount. and smashes on most cars. in total it came out to 3,500 dollars including the car and is in the mid 13s. do us a favor and read what i wrote before you open your dumb ass mouth again. TY :P
@Cisco121490 You still don't get it Ricer. You need a FUCKING TURBO just to remain side by side to a stock NON-TURBO mustang....PATHETIC RICER HAHAHAHA. Stilled wasted money hahahahaha. V8 4 LIFE.
@nustangchristian I WAS KEEPING UP WITH A MUSTANG IT HAD A TURBO DUMBFUCK! CANT YOU READ? the only mustang all motor that got me was the new 2011 mustang gt. barely pulls on me. (finally that they decided to work on the head instead getting biger liters) You know how expensive it gets when you want to get bigger cams, turbo, bigger injectors, exhaust, etc on a v8? almost twice the price than what you would spend on an import. why?obvious, it has four extra cylinders so you need twice the money.
@Cisco121490 Don't lie RICER nobody believes you. You were only watching fast and furious hahahaha. You can get a full turbo kit with turbo headers and everything for up to 2 grand on ebay so no excuses ricer. It's obvious you don't know shit about mustang so shut the fuck up and get the fuck out RICER!!
@nustangchristian 2k for an ebay turbo kit LOL. my cuzin got his turbo kit for 300 on ebay for his eg. t3/t4 turbo, oil lines, downpipe, wastegate, couple hoses. only thing he needed extra to buy was the piping, intercooler and boost controller. totals out to 500 max. Get an education, then get back to me. sounds like you have no idea what the word "RICER" is used for... google is your friend ;)
@Cisco121490 hey guess what? i paid $1500 for my 88 foxbody and it runs the same shit 13s. so you spent...wait for it...$2000 more than i did? LOL and so if i bothered to invest $2000 for the sake of coming out equal in price, do you have any idea how badly i would smash on your piece of shit whining engine of an import? you just dont get the fact that a 4 banger is an ECONOMY CAR, NOT A MUSCLE CAR.
@Cisco121490 why pay extra AND have to tune up a car and dump money in when you can buy a car that was made right from the beginning? and watch who your calling ignorant closed minded fool and having a dumbass mouth because no one with balls that have dropped (at least in america - dont know what dream world your living in) has respect for a little car that makes a pussy noise when it "jams" and has to have a shit load of money and labor dumped in to make it even somewhat fast.
@Petoria2K8 quit trying to act hard on the internet. i back my shit up all you got is what you got to say for other people. get a car, get your hands dirty, do a build, learn about it, search through forums, and tell me what you think.
@Cisco121490 and this again is where i proved my point of YOU being the dumbass and running your mouth. I've had 3 cars since the crown vic and havent had a chance to make a video nor take my car to the drag strip. dont make assumptions you look dumb
@Petoria2K8 and yet you say its a 13 sec car? LOL I on the other hand have. my car ran 13.72 @ 106 with street tires and still couldnt get good traction. with some drag radials and a lil more boost i should be in the low 13s. have in mind i still am running on a open diff. 88 foxbody dont run near 13s stock sir. there you go again, saying shit with no proof. and im the dumb one here?? LOL
@Cisco121490 you see the thing you seem to forget is that ricers are never going to be accepted as respectable. at least in America. imports here are flat out a joke.dumping a crap load of money into a tuner is retarded when you can buy a car that already has a lot of power to work with.
@Cisco121490 like i said, i paid $1500 for my car and i smash on cars worth 10...20 times that if not more. and if i barely lose even at that, how much did i spend and did you or anyone else spend and im right on your ass? you tell me where any logic is unless your loaded and have money to throw around then you fail at making sense
@Petoria2K8 have any proof? no? stop talking shit out of your ass. me on the other hand smoked a supposibly stage 2 neon. i just think it was stock. beat a 2010 mustang gt, camaro 2010(not the ss), one of the old corvette i think it was 1990ish, subaru wrx turbo, stock 5.0 mustang like nothing(gave him two head start passed him around 50mph), i have only lost to a svt cobra by 1car and 1/2 at the quarter mile was my friends car, and lost to an ef b18 turbo tuned by about 3 cars 45-120mph.
@Petoria2K8 even if you did have that mustang, it would be nowhere near my car except in my rear view mirror. how can you call a 15 sec car vs a 13 sec car 'right on your ass'? not even close. when you want to make your car faster you have to spend on parts. not like an exhaust and intake, but cams, pistons if your going from n/a to turbo, mb valvetrain for better head flow, injectors, intake manifold, and thats when v8s get very expensive. imports are cheap and nimble.
@Cisco121490 You gotta spend more money on your import 4banger just to keep up with the v8. Then if you want to make it faster than a v8, you spend more money. Import parts are more expensive here in America, therefore American v8s is cheap horsepower. Turbos/superchargers can be added cheap too, & the import will still have 4 cylinders less.
@Noejr10 how is it more expensive when you have to buy less parts for it? who told you v8s are cheaper than i4s? i know a bigger displacement engine will always have more horsepower than an the lower one, its simple physics. doesnt mean it will win all the time. powerband, gearing, weight, aerodynamics, etc all plays a part. there is no definite solution to which is the better one. there are always the pros and cons. in this situation the 240sx is the fastest for the cheapest.
@Cisco121490 The point is you have to actually buy parts to make the attempt of beating a v8. I could find a fox body mustang for 2 grand along with a 240sx & I'd have to put more money in to the 240sx. What do they have around 140 horses? The only 4banger I'd enjoy driving is my 1984 SVO. Their engines were making 200 horse back in '85. Mustangs are cheap horse power, that's one of the reasons so many people like them.
@Noejr10 um, i dont see much fox body mustangs around. and the rest of the mustangs are not cheap at all. so, the reason why people like them is beacause they are cheap but yet there are not much foxbody's around. ok... fords are known to break down all the time and dont last long very much. see them on the side of the highway almost every week. i4s are fuel savers and quick little machines aswell if built right. oh and i4s are not about hp. its about power/weight ratio, everyone knows that...
@Cisco121490 I see about the same amount where I live. I happen to own three fox bodies myself. FYI I happen to work as a technician for a Ford dealership and all we mainly do is routine maintenance plus wear & tear work. Imports are more expensive to repair when they break down, and IMO I'd rather walk than to drive one of those. I4s are all mainly about being fuel savers. A quick little machine is a small block v8. Of course it is about power to weight ratio. Fbodies are lightweight.
@Noejr10 fbodies may be light compared to other v8s cars but fairly heavy in the import scene. i have no idea where you get that import(japanese cars) are more expensive. the reason why american cars were out of business was due to having higher prices than imports. i4s are much easier to work with than v8s. most i4s are aluminum making them lighter so easier to lift out of a car. easier to tune. even in PINKS two fords broke down in one show. took a chevy in a ford for it not to break down.
@Cisco121490 Well import cars are fairly weak on the muscle car side no offense. Yes imported cars are more expensive to repair when they break down because of obvious reasons(imported). Also, the majority of imports are not i4s, but they are four cylinder transverse engines. A v8 would be just like working on a i4 but with an extra cylinder head. Who cares if they are aluminum for lighter weight to pull out of a car, when an engine stand does all the pulling anyways.
@Cisco121490 Also working on an aluminum head isn't always easier. What if that aluminum head gets a hot spark plug stuck? I'd say good luck and you'll most likely be ordering yourself a new expensive aluminum head from Japan ASAP. If Ford cars break down so much, then why are they the number one care manufacture? I don't get why people would want them? Doesn't make sense to me.
@Noejr10 you obviously havent pulled an engine. ive helped my dad pull out a engine from a marquis and one from a his cutlass supreme and ill tell you pulling my engine was like a walk in the park compared to those. its not as simple as just pulling. a v8 is like working on two i4s at one time. extra head and extra cylinders. lol, ford is NOT the number one car manufacture.... its Toyota. you fail once more. oh, and how often does a "hot spark plug stuck" happen? rarely from what ive seen.
@Cisco121490 Haha I guarantee I've pulled more engines than you have. From your lack of knowledge about cars I can clearly see that you do not work in the automotive field. Oh and it happens from time to time, it doesn't matter what kind of car it is. Especially if the people removing that engine is as smart as you, then it's guaranteed you will fuck up.
@Noejr10 if you have pulled variety of engines, you wouldnt be arguing about this and why are you making false statements? have you worked on engines other than v8s? i have. and i have personall experiences with each one of them and let me tell you doing a simple spark plug change is not the same as in an inline four. imports are cheaper than domestics thats the reason why you see hondas every corner you take. when things break, your buying twice as much in a v8 than you would in a i4.
@Cisco121490 One of the reasons Hondas are around is because they're all not beat on. They are grocery go-getters, not designed to be raced with excessive power. Basically if you want to make your import fast, you have to build it from the ground up. I've seen built Mustangs coming in to the shop with 400 HP to the wheels and that's all motor. Good luck trying to do that with an import. & if we want more power we could put a blower on it, or even play your game and add a turbo or two.
@Noejr10 try buying a v8 motor and its nowhere close to the price of an i4. its almost twice as much. you cant argue that v8s are cheaper than an i4. doing an oil change for example how many quarts do you have to buy? how about a spark plug change? gas? should i keep going?
@Cisco121490 I defend myself because your insulting my knowledge about cars when I'm clearly ASE certified technician for Ford. Dude big deal, you gotta buy 4 more spark plugs that cost about $2 each? & another quart of oil for about $4? You get what you pay for! You got me on the consumption of gas though. Although then again, you do need more fuel due to the fact that they make more power. Face it, there is no replacement for displacement.
@Cisco121490 ok this argument is stupid. maintaining the engine with tuneups/oilchanges etc... is about as dumb as it gets because my V8 gets about 16mpg and my I4 gets about 34mpg obviously it cost more to keep a V8 well maintained VS. a near stock, no boost no mod Honda. BUT to "BUILD" both engines up to 350-400whp it will cost about half as much to achieve with 8 cyl. then to go with 4cyl. also @ certain junkyards. ALL engines are about $300 I4 I6 V6 V8 turbo or not, stock or modded.
@stangowner8687 but finding a good known engine that has aftermarket support is, (can i say impossible?) to find for that price. your still with your who has the most hp game? Most of it has to do with power to weight ratio. ford has realized that and now they are bringing out some light mustangs. i assume your thinking i have a honda. my car cost me 3.5k (including car) and it runs mid/low 13s nearly factory stock. spending 600 more on injectors and an s14sr turbo will get me in the mid 12s.
@Cisco121490 foxbody mustangs can be had for 3.5k no problem, with a safe bet they have a good bit of mods done to be 13sec cars. also with little effort the foxbody mustang can be seen in 2500lb-2800lbs with some serious work. but aside from weight reduction. the 84 mustang in my vid my pap bought for $700 9 yrs ago. with some shopping on craigslist. i can feel confident to see an 11-12sec mustang within $3300. also im not a meathead i do know it is power/weight not just, i have bigger numbers!
@stangowner8687 oh and BTW until recently i have never bothered building a 4cyl engine. i have recently started building a replacement motor for an 84 EXP turbo. expecting close to 300whp. from a 1.6 CVH engine has cost me so far. headwork-$700. turbo-$300. BOV&intercooler-$200. pistons-$400 i have not bothered getting an est. on the custom piping for intercooler/turbo/exhaust. nor have i factored in a simple rebuild kit. but i can assure you for 300whp would cost me alot less w/V8 but EXP=cool
@stangowner8687 and i can only hope my connecting rods, cam, and crank will all hold up to the boost. my 302 can support 400whp np slap on a set of heads, some headers, 3.73 gears and a bottle, assuming a guy likes a bottle on his V8. but its just to simple with V8s
@Cisco121490 The point is you have to actually buy parts to make the attempt of beating a v8. I could find a fox body mustang for 2 grand along with a 240sx & I'd have to put more money in to the 240sx. What do they have around 140 horses? The only 4banger I'd enjoy driving is my 1984 SVO. Their engines were making 200 horse back in '85. Mustangs are cheap horse power, that's one of the reasons so many people like them.
@Cisco121490 sorry, i know this is a month old but thought i would help fight the good fight, 1st off a stock 5.0 in its day ran mid 14's so the mustang in these runs i would guess prob. has about 2k-3k invested in actual performance and not just looks like a paint job, pretty rims and clear headlights. not to mention in its time the fox body with V8 option only cost on ave. about 15k new
@Cisco121490 you can try as hard as you want to prove that your car is the shit and bash on american made V8s but when it comes down to it the american made V8 is made right and if maintained well will see a long powerful life ensued. again watch your tongue pretty boy because talking shit in person to someone like that would get your ass warranted for a good beating where im from. pussies like you deserve it anyway figures why you drive a pussy mobile
@Petoria2K8 u have a crown victoria wat are you talking about. lol yet you have no vids of your car nor what times it makes. in a forum there is a list of stock cars and what they run in the 1/4 mile. the 88 mustang runs 15.0 flat. its eazy to say what it runs but another thing is actually running it. try to fully build a v8 and tell me whats the price range on it. almost twice as much as it would cost an import.
@nustangchristian wow i might be late on this but you sound like a typical american. american sports car believe in bigger motors...import sports car believes in working their motors to make it better...most american sports car (stock) are NA v8 while most sports import car are inline 4 to v6...theres no replacement for displacement buddy. keep wasting cash while most stock import sports car get better gas millage and still do better on the strip..and dont let me start with the crappy suspension
@underground164 WOW!! you sound like the all american ricer japanese wannabe. Do you really think that modifying a 4 or 6 banger won't hurt the gas mileage?...What a retarded comment you just made. An STI makes 14 to 16 gas mileage on city and the new mustang gt makes 18 to 19 gas mileage and makes more horsepower(stock and non turbo), sound better and it's an iconic car. So either way your comments are just retarded. BUY A FUCKING V8 IF YOU WANNA BE A REAL RACER HAHAHAHAHAHA
@nustangchristian keep dreaming bigger is better. keep wasting all that exhaust while i use waste into horsepower . good bye. untill you finally see the beauty in a car and motor then we speak. oh want me to talk about crappy american suspension? wait no everyone knows how that works. and for the record i use to drive have a buick Grand National... and looking to get another. so untill u apreaciate a good tiny v6 like the buick GN motor. then we talk.
@underground164 Don't cry ricer, I know it must be tough not to own a REAL car....but hey if you save up some money then maybe just maybe you could own man's car instead of shitbox pussy car HAHAHAHAHAHA. Just admit you're a ricer and get the fuck out.
@nustangchristian you know what.. ill be the "ricer"... but atleast i have a car and not talking crap about others people cars .. expecially you who only prove to know what ur dad told you. or better yet this sounds something and an american mom would say because the v8 exhaust made her panties drop and you happened. good bye
@nustangchristian ok im sorry to bring this back from the dead. have you heard what nascar is doing? oh no no more V8... you call me a ricer? ha go pick up a car book then work on them then race them. and yes i do believe a mobed 4 or 6 banger can get better gas than a v8. your a fucking idiot. theres different ways of doing it. different tunes different set up. also u can bring down boost. if ur a real racer than a GNX must be ur biggest nightmare Mr.v8
wow DSM driver= worst driver ever. i mean its front wheel drive yeah. but i mean common. P.S. i have and run both a nissan maxima and a 240sx/sr20det. the maxima is a front wheel drive torquie beast. and i still manage to get it off the line fine. that DSM just fails.
@bigenginesismythang Look at the trap speed. ET is a bad judge of performance, it can go up or down considerably based on tires, launch technique, weather, track conditions and more. Trap speed stays VERY consistent however. The Mustang trapped 108 to the 240's 105.
@bigenginesismythang Doesn't matter? Dude, you need a little experience with racing first before going around trying to swing your dick. ET can change drastically depending on traction, but trap speed stays nearly the same regardless of traction, therefor trap speed is the TRUE indicator of how fast a car is. The Stang trapped 3 mph faster than the 240, therefor the Mustang is the faster car.
@gtdrummerdude The 240 was on slicks while the Mustang was on street tires so yea, the 240 crossed the traps before the Mustang, but the Mustang is still the faster car because it had a higher trap speed. Put slicks on the Mustang and it would win. BTW the 240 was clearly heavily modified, lots of boost. The Mustang probably had H/C/I and still has TONS of room to grow. A bone stock 5.0 with a turbo and supporting fuel mods will go high 10s @ 125 mph.
but a slower driver its not just traction its his reaction time also the car might have taller gears which would make him slower but have more top end so there u go
@bigenginesismythang Reaction time is not factored into heads up races. The timer starts when your tires break the beam, regardless of how long after the light turns green that is. Just watch the race dude. It's dead obvious that the 240 is on slicks and the Mustang is on street tires. On slicks, the Mustang would be in the mid-low 12s.
i disagree about the reaction time but if the 240 took him only because of tires then the mustang should have gained on him at the end but he was still a near second behind which is a pretty big distance i like five o's but i think this one got smoked
@bigenginesismythang I don't care if you disagree. It's not my opinion, it's how drag racing works, it's a fact. Reaction time only factors into your ET in a bracket race. Think whatever you want. Someday if you get into racing deep enough that you're building your own cars to race with, you'll understand that trap speed is the true honest indicator of a car's performance, not ET.
well i do care because that isnt how it works how is the time gona start when you leave ??? the cars would leave whenever they want wich would make them leave at different times and i do know because im building my own car right now and i know for a fact even if the mustang had drag tires the 240 still would have got him at first i dont give a fuck how fast it was going at the end cuz its still slow from a dig and the 240 would have got him everytime
@bigenginesismythang You're clueless. You don't even know how the timer at a dragstrip works, how do you expect to be credible in automobile racing? Waste of my time.
dude your clueless speed doesnt say how fast a car is it helps but it isnt the only thing otherwise theyre wouldnt be a timer! your a waste of your own time
Yes it is all about the driver.. The Nissan driver chose a better car than an old Ford Mustang! The Nissan is a 14s car stock and the Ford is a 15s car. Ive even seen old Honda Crx's beat them!
oh yea and 12 sec on that first nissan. hm put about 20k in that car to do what a mustang can stock. add the same mod money to the mustang it will be running 9's
A Mustang like that POS fox doesn't run 12s stock. The crappy old 5L cammer can only manage 15s with a huge 200hp.
Good luck to anyone trying to get a 9 out of one thats for sure.
Being an owner of an SR20det i can tell you 12s can be done with only bolt ons.
Eg 3" exhaust off turbo , 38-40mm external wastegate , front mounted intercooler , cold air box , Ecu tune. This will make about 300whp. With a larger turbo 400whp+ can be made on a stock block easily.
@JDMFLAMER , anyone running 15's with a 5.0L foxbody Mustang doesn't have a clue how to drive it. Simple as that. Even an average driver could easily get mid-14's out of them on a bad day.
Give yourself some credit by posting up your video. According to factory figures the Mustang was a 15 sec car. There is a big difference between 15s and high 13's in terms of hp especially when a stock Mustang has only around 200hp!
@JDMFLAMER , I don't have any videos to prove it. This was back in 1988 when I purchased the car new. Most magazines posted high 14 second times for 5-spee 5.0L Mustangs back then, but mine came from the factory with the better rear gears and no A/C. It was basically a light weight stripped car and it did run in the 13's bone stock. I'm not the only one who ran 13's with a stock Mustang back then either.
@EvenSteven2004 no they cant. my nissan maxima beats them and im talkin roll racing. so its not like its coming down to driver. my fastes run inthe max was 14.8. thos 5.0s they can be made fast but stock are on the slowside. its a bold claim saying that an average driver can get mid 14's out of them on a bad day. because i know thats not true first hand.
@bpunlife, it's absolutely true. Anyone who knows anything about Mustangs knows that the foxbody 5.0L cars were mid 14's right off the showroom floor. Like I said, I was a 5.0L owner, so I know first hand. BTW, roll racing is gay and the fact that you raced Mustang from a roll shows that you know nothing about how Mustang perform. They are high torque cars, so they pull hard from a dead stop. Racing from a roll is stupid for a Mustang driver to do in the first place.
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mustangs suck end of story it dont matter how much time and money u spend on them they will always suck ...... now a camaro is a true beast but import will always win
People who know well about cars don't bash mustangs because they realize the amount of nearly unlimited potential they have for not that much money. Those who bash Mustangs (or any other type of american car) are mostly hardcore import purists who are too close minded to open their eyes to anything "American".
@chinhhhhh Not all imports bro. Also let me clarify that I was talking about fox body mustangs. When it comes to a car from 20 years ago and people are constantly comparing anything newer with better technology and rave "yay I beat that piece of shit!" It makes me laugh
@jimbom347 mustangs aint cheap maybe da old ones but nothing past 2000 can make an engine buy a used car and still suup it up, compared to buying a mustang , and the used car would win
@jimbom347 that goes both ways. the domestic purists that hate anything import think the same way. i just wish people stopped giving a fuck and realized that americans, europeans, and asians all make good cars. some of them just make more good cars than others COUGHnissan,toyota,mazdaCOUGH
@xExRxIxCxKx You are right it does go both ways and I wouldn't agree with American purists either. I wouldn't overlook something just because of the brand and people need to keep an open mind. I wouldn't trade my 86 5.0 or my Maxima for anything even though the I had to replace a poorly designed radiator support that rotted out prematurely, constant CELs, and defective CV joint boots on the Max which has 66k on it.
@jimbom347 lol same same here. i wouldn't trade my wd21 pathfinder that has the wackest IFS set up ever cuz it's reliable as fuck. and even though our suburbans transmission went out at 50k miles it's proven itself to be quite reliable as well.
people dont bash the mustang... people who know well about cars do... just because they know how stupid of an idea it was to make them... mustangs are the ultimate humiliation machines
yeah thats why the mustang is recognised always even these old ones but jap cars just come and go and noone cares no one misses them they r just like tumbleweeds crossing the road and dissapears who cares.mustangs have much more potential than your moms car
People has their likes and dislikes. If you like import, buy an import. If you like domestic or a muscle car, buy a muscle car. Honestly... I got a 240sx.. Use that to race/drift.. But i got a sweet Ford Explorer XLT... Loving it LOL
ive driven a 95 mustang gt 5.0, a honda crx, a honda prelude, and a iroc camaro. And in all truth i would rather own jdm then a muscle car. Too much money to keep up a v8, you have high insurance, not so good gas milage. And plus too many douchebags drive mustangs. Not soo many drive datsun 510's and Hachi Roku's. I respect v8's but i will never own one
i'm a nissan guy, but why do people bash the mustang? it's a great car especially with some mods and a good driver, have any of you run against an intelligently modded stang?
same here i absolutely am a nissan guy, espesially the GTR R34, so sad its not allowed in canada and I also love the stangs espesially the 93 models ;)
No r34's ? damn that's harsh, you can get em here in the states just at a nice penny...but still worth it. You can also purchase em from military personel that had theirs shipped for a good price here also and smog legal
lucky ass :P fuck, canada is soo pussy even though i live here I mean cops are pobbly scared that a stock R34 will outrun their cop cars not only in speed but handling and all that, the only shitty part is that the steering is on the rght side
Ricer Eclipse. Too poor to get Launch Control
#JDMfail
Euromediann 2 weeks ago
@Euromediann eclipse isn't JDM it's a DSM
#youfail
MistaCJN 2 weeks ago
put some slicks on that clipes...
wayuvaj 1 month ago
Looks like the 240 has nos.
hedrick5286 2 months ago
lol fwd sucks. and the eclipse driver couldnt drive for shit.
arcticmonkey487 6 months ago
lmao! V8 pwned
usdx329 6 months ago 2
fx50
Rockyall 6 months ago
can anyone tell me the mods on the 240?
all muscle/import hate can stay at the gate
kronikally420 6 months ago
@jabba12000 you are incorrect sir, that mustang is not supercharged. it would have at least 2 seconds off that 13.7 quarter mile time with a supercharger.
cheftreez 7 months ago
its nissan silva not silvia u idiot-typo on the title
Khali831 8 months ago
@Khali831 Actually you're wrong cause it is Nissan Silvia and not Silva.
kojiki88 8 months ago 4
1st race: damn, fast little nissan 2nd race: theres a shocker... somebody in a eclipse doesnt know how to drive!! 3rd race: its a awd infinity with turbo right? it would be sad if it DIDNT run that time haha
Mikey0949 8 months ago
@Mikey0949
That infiniti is an all motor 5L v8 and the mustang was supercharged.
jabba12000 7 months ago
You know what's awesome.... That 240sx drove home with gas still left over.
russianfrederation 8 months ago 3
Mustang lover here, but ill show respect to the Nissan, that thing hooked up real nice off the line. and the infiniti was moving real quick.
stang1973 8 months ago
Nissan name a car after my girl friend.
arios211 9 months ago
That was directed at jlizel, or jizz eater, or whatever the prick below my comment is.
cheftreez 9 months ago
Actually, not fuck American cars you rude little bitch. The new maxima you speak of has a couple decades newer technology in it. And barely performs better than that classic fox body. I know. I have one. And btw idiot, the comparable in age model of that same awesome pony, comes stock with over a hundred more hp than the maxima. If your iq is your shoe size don't comment. Jagoff
cheftreez 9 months ago 10
the funny thing is nissan is building family cars with 32mpg and 290hp 4 doors and running low 13 high 12 seconds off the lot stock fuck american cars
Jlizel 9 months ago
to much wheel spin...lol!!!
shitycool 9 months ago
lol the title says
'sex'
Thursday377 10 months ago
sorry he did beat the infinity by about 3 tenths my fault
91LX306 10 months ago
i love mustangs ang mustangs only , but i must say thats silvia is a beast and it doesnt look good gettin beat by a infinity suv
91LX306 10 months ago
woooo yea s14 haha
bad gsx hehehe
hmong89240sx 1 year ago
Mustang breally modded n smoked all thoses cars... that silva is heavily modded... with out the turbo its just a slow car..
Badass Mustang
heihachi77 1 year ago
@heihachi77 flawless logic! In this case, 2+2=4 but all you have to do is say "Well if that fucking 2 was still just a 1 then 1+2 would have equaled 3" and it's as if the Mustang didn't get beaten by a 4 banger! Capital sir! You are a genius!
NismoTyler 11 months ago
@heihachi77 look at the trap speed of the silvia... 105. it traps like a stock sr20det. silvia also has no front mount. the good launch at the line means it could be the s14 sr cause of the torque it had. that silvia(its not really a silvia but w/e) is nowhere near heavily modded at all. i would call it close to stock.
Cisco121490 11 months ago
Dang that silvias a dam sleeper. I thought that mustang had him..........
Flipnoe 1 year ago
that silvia looked like a GEO prizm at 1st O_O
stangowner8687 1 year ago
WTF was with the eclipse?
x808drifter 1 year ago
Another Raped GT.
MexicanRudeboy9 1 year ago
That is the fastest I have ever seen a Silvia jump off the line. What a car.
Zeke8762 1 year ago
write gift before youtube. word of mouth
arcosfidel 1 year ago
and finally you can never get the deep throaty rumble of a muscle car to have any comparison with the whining pitchy scream of a tuner. never will happen and no matter what an american V8 like my stang will always sound way more intimidating than that little scream like a chipmunk getting run over by a car
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
@Petoria2K8 the whining pitchy scream? you must be thinking of hondas. sr's sound way different. you probably think just cuz a honda sounds one way, then all imports sound the same. sr's may not sound as deep as a muscle car but definately not like a honda.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
thats cool bro ill im saying and you can try and refute all you want but what it comes down to is as an american i support american brand cars. i also support spending as little money as possible on a car while seeking as much fun out of it as possible.
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
oh yea i forgot to add, i also lost to a boosted 5.0 mustang by 1 car. 15-60ish and i was in 2nd gear (his torque got me, i should have dumped the clutch). top end he wasnt even pulling on me. he didn't want to race again afterwards.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
So from what I can tell here... Tuner fans hate muscle cars because of the people that drive them. And muscle car fans hate imports because of the people that drive them, the sound they make, the fact that they can be built for cheap, and they're good on gas. How about we all keep our opinions to ourselves and talk about how quick that Infinite was. Btw... I like Imports and Muscle cars. So suck it.
MdayGuitarist 1 year ago
i have a 240sx s13 and love 240`s to death, but god i hate how they look stock with stock rims and stock ride hight... still owned that mustang tho.
Tnesjed 1 year ago
fwd fail
billybobpeach 1 year ago
some people are stupid.... the mustang is a light sports car packing a 5.0L V8.
if its old ass fuck and the guy never restored the engine i can see why it lost. if it was a re-built or new engine, running 13.1 is a tad slow, i've seen them run as fast as 12.2 stock.
as for thoes other cars, you ricer fanboys are retarded go learn a thing or two about cars that slivia is FAR from stock, and that infinity is running faster than most avrage cars 13.4 in an SUV ha a civic couldent pull that off
CemetaryGatesML 1 year ago
@CemetaryGatesML lol, 12.2 stock!! the new mustang gt 2011 run a 12.7 stock which is impressive and to believe the 90 5.0 mustang to run a 12.2 is a joke. i believe those run 14.9 stock. if that s14 has a stock s14 sr20det. all it needs is 550 injectors and a tune and it would be running 12.5 at the quarter mile close to stock. you sir need to learn about what your talking about.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 hey man its all on thr driver. reaction time is EVERYTHING. actualy waiting for the tree is very unaccurate. if you got a high end chip in ur car, ur can set it to run the QTR mile. all you gotta do is find a qtr mile strait road and run all out, second u hit the peddle, is when it starts the qtr mile.
thats were i saw a old stang do low 12's
CemetaryGatesML 1 year ago
@CemetaryGatesML The time doesnt start until you start. you can stay at the light for 10 seconds then go and still do a 13 second run. at the track, its all about traction. thats why some people bring slicks and heat up the tires. i bet you the mustang you saw was not stock.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 naa man i was in the car...relitivly stock. cold air intake etc... new clutch ( oviously :P ) some decent street tires.
when the tree hits green the timer starts and dosent stop till u hit the sensor at the end of the strip ( from what i've seen on local tracks.
the chip hes got tutorial for qtr mile
-u set it to qtr mile
-( the car must be completly stoped )
-the SECOND you touch the gas pedal once the system is ON and READY the timer begins and stops at the qtr mile mark
CemetaryGatesML 1 year ago
@CemetaryGatesML do some research first. your just making a fool of yourself. i go to the track every once in a while and i know the time doesnt start until you go. i have raced a stock 5.0 mustang and smoked him. it was stock just had a cold air intake and my car is not a 12 second car. i raced a boosted 5.0 mustang the other day and he got me by a car. 15-90mph. do some research and come back and try to argue. maybe ur talking about the 1/8 of a mile. makes more sense there.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 HAHAHAHA and then you woke up, right? Fucking ricer lol.
nustangchristian 1 year ago
@nustangchristian im just stating the facts, yep my 3.5k car is in the 13s. soon the low 12s with injectors, t28 turbo, and a tune. keeping my car reliable and decent quick. imports are ideal for various type of races. not just in a straight line. ;)
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 Ok so...what you are telling me is that you need various mods plus a turbo just to beat a stock mustang....hahahahahahaha Pathetic. Has it ever ocurred to you that if the mustang was turbo and had the same mods as you, the mustang would win? . Youre just like any typical ricer, trying to downgrade what should and is a REAL race car just because you can't afford it hahahahaha
nustangchristian 1 year ago
@nustangchristian i have a STOCK sr20det. from japan. not upgraded at all. Just a front mount and an exhaust. like i said i raced a boosted mustang from 15mph. Took me forever to boost. He only got me because of the torque. if we would of raced from 35 or 55 it would have been a different story. on the top end he wasnt even pulling on me. but a win is a win. when i said 3.5 k that means 500 was for the shell and 2k for the engine and another 1k for piping front mount, exhaust, oil, etc.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 WOOWW!! so you lost to a stock but sprayed mustang vs. a supposed aftermarket engine tuned with exhaust system....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA still pathetic. You wasted your money ricer. You should of bought a 5.0 mustang and you get better performance, better sound, better everything and get real girls hahahahaha. V8 are meant for a reason and that's for racing and reliability.
nustangchristian 1 year ago
@nustangchristian how did you come up with a sprayed mustang? BOOSTED! meaning forced induction mustang or a mustang with a turbo.... how is an sr20det an aftermarket engine when it comes from a factory. the s13 were meant to come with sr20det but were denied in the US for various reasons. sounds like you have no idea what your talking about. Bet your a little kid supporting your daddies car. the mustang is priced well above 3.5k. i have no idea what you meant by "you wasted your money"
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@nustangchristian btw, fords are known to break down all the time. why you think some mustangs are being powered by chevy motors.... for better reliability and better power. when it comes to reliability import wins hands down. i see more fords on the side of the road than imports. my car is factory tuned. still needs dyno tune and it will run even better. the only racing a ford can do from factory is in a straight line. try curcuit, rally, and drifting and tell me how it does lol.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 who gives a shit, be a man and fix your car, regardless of "reliability" what really matters is stock vs stock who's car has the power and the balls to smash? not a rice rocket, thats for sure rofl
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
@Petoria2K8 another ignorant closed minded fool. MY ENGINE IS STOCK. STOCK ENGINE FROM JAPAN. its the original engine that came with the s13 but were banned in the US due to emission crap. stock t25 turbo, stock clutch, stock internals, stock injectors, only upgrade is an exhaust and front mount. and smashes on most cars. in total it came out to 3,500 dollars including the car and is in the mid 13s. do us a favor and read what i wrote before you open your dumb ass mouth again. TY :P
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 You still don't get it Ricer. You need a FUCKING TURBO just to remain side by side to a stock NON-TURBO mustang....PATHETIC RICER HAHAHAHA. Stilled wasted money hahahahaha. V8 4 LIFE.
nustangchristian 1 year ago
@nustangchristian I WAS KEEPING UP WITH A MUSTANG IT HAD A TURBO DUMBFUCK! CANT YOU READ? the only mustang all motor that got me was the new 2011 mustang gt. barely pulls on me. (finally that they decided to work on the head instead getting biger liters) You know how expensive it gets when you want to get bigger cams, turbo, bigger injectors, exhaust, etc on a v8? almost twice the price than what you would spend on an import. why?obvious, it has four extra cylinders so you need twice the money.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 Don't lie RICER nobody believes you. You were only watching fast and furious hahahaha. You can get a full turbo kit with turbo headers and everything for up to 2 grand on ebay so no excuses ricer. It's obvious you don't know shit about mustang so shut the fuck up and get the fuck out RICER!!
nustangchristian 1 year ago
@nustangchristian 2k for an ebay turbo kit LOL. my cuzin got his turbo kit for 300 on ebay for his eg. t3/t4 turbo, oil lines, downpipe, wastegate, couple hoses. only thing he needed extra to buy was the piping, intercooler and boost controller. totals out to 500 max. Get an education, then get back to me. sounds like you have no idea what the word "RICER" is used for... google is your friend ;)
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 the meaning of ricer is YOU, there's a picture of you and your shitbox on the ricer dictionary HAHAHAHAHAHA
nustangchristian 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 hey guess what? i paid $1500 for my 88 foxbody and it runs the same shit 13s. so you spent...wait for it...$2000 more than i did? LOL and so if i bothered to invest $2000 for the sake of coming out equal in price, do you have any idea how badly i would smash on your piece of shit whining engine of an import? you just dont get the fact that a 4 banger is an ECONOMY CAR, NOT A MUSCLE CAR.
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 why pay extra AND have to tune up a car and dump money in when you can buy a car that was made right from the beginning? and watch who your calling ignorant closed minded fool and having a dumbass mouth because no one with balls that have dropped (at least in america - dont know what dream world your living in) has respect for a little car that makes a pussy noise when it "jams" and has to have a shit load of money and labor dumped in to make it even somewhat fast.
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
@Petoria2K8 quit trying to act hard on the internet. i back my shit up all you got is what you got to say for other people. get a car, get your hands dirty, do a build, learn about it, search through forums, and tell me what you think.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 and this again is where i proved my point of YOU being the dumbass and running your mouth. I've had 3 cars since the crown vic and havent had a chance to make a video nor take my car to the drag strip. dont make assumptions you look dumb
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
@Petoria2K8 and yet you say its a 13 sec car? LOL I on the other hand have. my car ran 13.72 @ 106 with street tires and still couldnt get good traction. with some drag radials and a lil more boost i should be in the low 13s. have in mind i still am running on a open diff. 88 foxbody dont run near 13s stock sir. there you go again, saying shit with no proof. and im the dumb one here?? LOL
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 you see the thing you seem to forget is that ricers are never going to be accepted as respectable. at least in America. imports here are flat out a joke.dumping a crap load of money into a tuner is retarded when you can buy a car that already has a lot of power to work with.
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 like i said, i paid $1500 for my car and i smash on cars worth 10...20 times that if not more. and if i barely lose even at that, how much did i spend and did you or anyone else spend and im right on your ass? you tell me where any logic is unless your loaded and have money to throw around then you fail at making sense
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
@Petoria2K8 have any proof? no? stop talking shit out of your ass. me on the other hand smoked a supposibly stage 2 neon. i just think it was stock. beat a 2010 mustang gt, camaro 2010(not the ss), one of the old corvette i think it was 1990ish, subaru wrx turbo, stock 5.0 mustang like nothing(gave him two head start passed him around 50mph), i have only lost to a svt cobra by 1car and 1/2 at the quarter mile was my friends car, and lost to an ef b18 turbo tuned by about 3 cars 45-120mph.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Petoria2K8 even if you did have that mustang, it would be nowhere near my car except in my rear view mirror. how can you call a 15 sec car vs a 13 sec car 'right on your ass'? not even close. when you want to make your car faster you have to spend on parts. not like an exhaust and intake, but cams, pistons if your going from n/a to turbo, mb valvetrain for better head flow, injectors, intake manifold, and thats when v8s get very expensive. imports are cheap and nimble.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 You gotta spend more money on your import 4banger just to keep up with the v8. Then if you want to make it faster than a v8, you spend more money. Import parts are more expensive here in America, therefore American v8s is cheap horsepower. Turbos/superchargers can be added cheap too, & the import will still have 4 cylinders less.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Noejr10 how is it more expensive when you have to buy less parts for it? who told you v8s are cheaper than i4s? i know a bigger displacement engine will always have more horsepower than an the lower one, its simple physics. doesnt mean it will win all the time. powerband, gearing, weight, aerodynamics, etc all plays a part. there is no definite solution to which is the better one. there are always the pros and cons. in this situation the 240sx is the fastest for the cheapest.
Cisco121490 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 The point is you have to actually buy parts to make the attempt of beating a v8. I could find a fox body mustang for 2 grand along with a 240sx & I'd have to put more money in to the 240sx. What do they have around 140 horses? The only 4banger I'd enjoy driving is my 1984 SVO. Their engines were making 200 horse back in '85. Mustangs are cheap horse power, that's one of the reasons so many people like them.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Noejr10 um, i dont see much fox body mustangs around. and the rest of the mustangs are not cheap at all. so, the reason why people like them is beacause they are cheap but yet there are not much foxbody's around. ok... fords are known to break down all the time and dont last long very much. see them on the side of the highway almost every week. i4s are fuel savers and quick little machines aswell if built right. oh and i4s are not about hp. its about power/weight ratio, everyone knows that...
Cisco121490 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 I see about the same amount where I live. I happen to own three fox bodies myself. FYI I happen to work as a technician for a Ford dealership and all we mainly do is routine maintenance plus wear & tear work. Imports are more expensive to repair when they break down, and IMO I'd rather walk than to drive one of those. I4s are all mainly about being fuel savers. A quick little machine is a small block v8. Of course it is about power to weight ratio. Fbodies are lightweight.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Noejr10 fbodies may be light compared to other v8s cars but fairly heavy in the import scene. i have no idea where you get that import(japanese cars) are more expensive. the reason why american cars were out of business was due to having higher prices than imports. i4s are much easier to work with than v8s. most i4s are aluminum making them lighter so easier to lift out of a car. easier to tune. even in PINKS two fords broke down in one show. took a chevy in a ford for it not to break down.
Cisco121490 11 months ago
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Noejr10 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 Well import cars are fairly weak on the muscle car side no offense. Yes imported cars are more expensive to repair when they break down because of obvious reasons(imported). Also, the majority of imports are not i4s, but they are four cylinder transverse engines. A v8 would be just like working on a i4 but with an extra cylinder head. Who cares if they are aluminum for lighter weight to pull out of a car, when an engine stand does all the pulling anyways.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 Also working on an aluminum head isn't always easier. What if that aluminum head gets a hot spark plug stuck? I'd say good luck and you'll most likely be ordering yourself a new expensive aluminum head from Japan ASAP. If Ford cars break down so much, then why are they the number one care manufacture? I don't get why people would want them? Doesn't make sense to me.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Noejr10 you obviously havent pulled an engine. ive helped my dad pull out a engine from a marquis and one from a his cutlass supreme and ill tell you pulling my engine was like a walk in the park compared to those. its not as simple as just pulling. a v8 is like working on two i4s at one time. extra head and extra cylinders. lol, ford is NOT the number one car manufacture.... its Toyota. you fail once more. oh, and how often does a "hot spark plug stuck" happen? rarely from what ive seen.
Cisco121490 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 Haha I guarantee I've pulled more engines than you have. From your lack of knowledge about cars I can clearly see that you do not work in the automotive field. Oh and it happens from time to time, it doesn't matter what kind of car it is. Especially if the people removing that engine is as smart as you, then it's guaranteed you will fuck up.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Noejr10 if you have pulled variety of engines, you wouldnt be arguing about this and why are you making false statements? have you worked on engines other than v8s? i have. and i have personall experiences with each one of them and let me tell you doing a simple spark plug change is not the same as in an inline four. imports are cheaper than domestics thats the reason why you see hondas every corner you take. when things break, your buying twice as much in a v8 than you would in a i4.
Cisco121490 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 One of the reasons Hondas are around is because they're all not beat on. They are grocery go-getters, not designed to be raced with excessive power. Basically if you want to make your import fast, you have to build it from the ground up. I've seen built Mustangs coming in to the shop with 400 HP to the wheels and that's all motor. Good luck trying to do that with an import. & if we want more power we could put a blower on it, or even play your game and add a turbo or two.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Noejr10 try buying a v8 motor and its nowhere close to the price of an i4. its almost twice as much. you cant argue that v8s are cheaper than an i4. doing an oil change for example how many quarts do you have to buy? how about a spark plug change? gas? should i keep going?
Cisco121490 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 I defend myself because your insulting my knowledge about cars when I'm clearly ASE certified technician for Ford. Dude big deal, you gotta buy 4 more spark plugs that cost about $2 each? & another quart of oil for about $4? You get what you pay for! You got me on the consumption of gas though. Although then again, you do need more fuel due to the fact that they make more power. Face it, there is no replacement for displacement.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 ok this argument is stupid. maintaining the engine with tuneups/oilchanges etc... is about as dumb as it gets because my V8 gets about 16mpg and my I4 gets about 34mpg obviously it cost more to keep a V8 well maintained VS. a near stock, no boost no mod Honda. BUT to "BUILD" both engines up to 350-400whp it will cost about half as much to achieve with 8 cyl. then to go with 4cyl. also @ certain junkyards. ALL engines are about $300 I4 I6 V6 V8 turbo or not, stock or modded.
stangowner8687 10 months ago
@stangowner8687 but finding a good known engine that has aftermarket support is, (can i say impossible?) to find for that price. your still with your who has the most hp game? Most of it has to do with power to weight ratio. ford has realized that and now they are bringing out some light mustangs. i assume your thinking i have a honda. my car cost me 3.5k (including car) and it runs mid/low 13s nearly factory stock. spending 600 more on injectors and an s14sr turbo will get me in the mid 12s.
Cisco121490 10 months ago
@Cisco121490 foxbody mustangs can be had for 3.5k no problem, with a safe bet they have a good bit of mods done to be 13sec cars. also with little effort the foxbody mustang can be seen in 2500lb-2800lbs with some serious work. but aside from weight reduction. the 84 mustang in my vid my pap bought for $700 9 yrs ago. with some shopping on craigslist. i can feel confident to see an 11-12sec mustang within $3300. also im not a meathead i do know it is power/weight not just, i have bigger numbers!
stangowner8687 9 months ago
@stangowner8687 oh and BTW until recently i have never bothered building a 4cyl engine. i have recently started building a replacement motor for an 84 EXP turbo. expecting close to 300whp. from a 1.6 CVH engine has cost me so far. headwork-$700. turbo-$300. BOV&intercooler-$200. pistons-$400 i have not bothered getting an est. on the custom piping for intercooler/turbo/exhaust. nor have i factored in a simple rebuild kit. but i can assure you for 300whp would cost me alot less w/V8 but EXP=cool
stangowner8687 9 months ago
@stangowner8687 and i can only hope my connecting rods, cam, and crank will all hold up to the boost. my 302 can support 400whp np slap on a set of heads, some headers, 3.73 gears and a bottle, assuming a guy likes a bottle on his V8. but its just to simple with V8s
stangowner8687 9 months ago
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@Cisco121490 The point is you have to actually buy parts to make the attempt of beating a v8. I could find a fox body mustang for 2 grand along with a 240sx & I'd have to put more money in to the 240sx. What do they have around 140 horses? The only 4banger I'd enjoy driving is my 1984 SVO. Their engines were making 200 horse back in '85. Mustangs are cheap horse power, that's one of the reasons so many people like them.
Noejr10 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 sorry, i know this is a month old but thought i would help fight the good fight, 1st off a stock 5.0 in its day ran mid 14's so the mustang in these runs i would guess prob. has about 2k-3k invested in actual performance and not just looks like a paint job, pretty rims and clear headlights. not to mention in its time the fox body with V8 option only cost on ave. about 15k new
stangowner8687 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 you can try as hard as you want to prove that your car is the shit and bash on american made V8s but when it comes down to it the american made V8 is made right and if maintained well will see a long powerful life ensued. again watch your tongue pretty boy because talking shit in person to someone like that would get your ass warranted for a good beating where im from. pussies like you deserve it anyway figures why you drive a pussy mobile
Petoria2K8 1 year ago
@Petoria2K8 u have a crown victoria wat are you talking about. lol yet you have no vids of your car nor what times it makes. in a forum there is a list of stock cars and what they run in the 1/4 mile. the 88 mustang runs 15.0 flat. its eazy to say what it runs but another thing is actually running it. try to fully build a v8 and tell me whats the price range on it. almost twice as much as it would cost an import.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@nustangchristian wow i might be late on this but you sound like a typical american. american sports car believe in bigger motors...import sports car believes in working their motors to make it better...most american sports car (stock) are NA v8 while most sports import car are inline 4 to v6...theres no replacement for displacement buddy. keep wasting cash while most stock import sports car get better gas millage and still do better on the strip..and dont let me start with the crappy suspension
underground164 1 year ago
@underground164 WOW!! you sound like the all american ricer japanese wannabe. Do you really think that modifying a 4 or 6 banger won't hurt the gas mileage?...What a retarded comment you just made. An STI makes 14 to 16 gas mileage on city and the new mustang gt makes 18 to 19 gas mileage and makes more horsepower(stock and non turbo), sound better and it's an iconic car. So either way your comments are just retarded. BUY A FUCKING V8 IF YOU WANNA BE A REAL RACER HAHAHAHAHAHA
nustangchristian 1 year ago
@nustangchristian keep dreaming bigger is better. keep wasting all that exhaust while i use waste into horsepower . good bye. untill you finally see the beauty in a car and motor then we speak. oh want me to talk about crappy american suspension? wait no everyone knows how that works. and for the record i use to drive have a buick Grand National... and looking to get another. so untill u apreaciate a good tiny v6 like the buick GN motor. then we talk.
underground164 1 year ago
@underground164 Don't cry ricer, I know it must be tough not to own a REAL car....but hey if you save up some money then maybe just maybe you could own man's car instead of shitbox pussy car HAHAHAHAHAHA. Just admit you're a ricer and get the fuck out.
nustangchristian 1 year ago
@nustangchristian you know what.. ill be the "ricer"... but atleast i have a car and not talking crap about others people cars .. expecially you who only prove to know what ur dad told you. or better yet this sounds something and an american mom would say because the v8 exhaust made her panties drop and you happened. good bye
underground164 1 year ago
@nustangchristian ok im sorry to bring this back from the dead. have you heard what nascar is doing? oh no no more V8... you call me a ricer? ha go pick up a car book then work on them then race them. and yes i do believe a mobed 4 or 6 banger can get better gas than a v8. your a fucking idiot. theres different ways of doing it. different tunes different set up. also u can bring down boost. if ur a real racer than a GNX must be ur biggest nightmare Mr.v8
underground164 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 And that's a fact hahahah
nustangchristian 1 year ago
Mustang.. Left for dead by the S14
The1320Addiction 1 year ago
stock old 5.0 dont run 13 seconds my friend just dont be sore losers about your fav car, or da car you have makes mustang lovers look fake
McOrca09 1 year ago
That 240 was sick! And what about that stock Infiniti...and it's an SUV. That's a shame for all us Mustang lovers.
ShaneFM 1 year ago
@ShaneFM lol that is a shame...i mean an SUV!!! Old people can smoke 5.0s now damn!!! LOL
SvvErVeN 1 year ago
the person driving the eclipse does NOT know how to drive for shit. he was spining the tires thru 1st and 2nd.
DRIFTINGIN808 1 year ago 2
how much is it to race i never founded outt
aldinss 1 year ago
not stock stang but it does alright that 240, DAMN lol
TKO5oh 1 year ago
Lol the infiniti walked the mustang
DonnyMarksPa 1 year ago
@DonnyMarksPa That's why the Mustang won?..
408Mustangs 1 year ago
@408Mustangs all of that power for a 15 microsecond win against a crossover suv? hmm, i think that's a waste of money man on a 13 second car
DonnyMarksPa 1 year ago
@DonnyMarksPa Do you think for a second that the infiniti is stock? That's quite a bit faster than a G35...
408Mustangs 1 year ago
@408Mustangs i think it is stock because for one they run four wheel drive, and two, when those ex35's are stock they still run 14's
DonnyMarksPa 1 year ago
@DonnyMarksPa Doing research they run high 14's, so there's no way it'll run mid 13s stock. Either way it's respectable.
408Mustangs 1 year ago
rofl@that infiniti
dustem69 1 year ago
The eclipse was slow as hell lol
djslim25 1 year ago
stock mustang my guess
MustangCobra22 1 year ago
wtf just happened
AnotherAZNmale 1 year ago
wow DSM driver= worst driver ever. i mean its front wheel drive yeah. but i mean common. P.S. i have and run both a nissan maxima and a 240sx/sr20det. the maxima is a front wheel drive torquie beast. and i still manage to get it off the line fine. that DSM just fails.
bpunlife 1 year ago
@Imaman93 somone who whips a poneys ass haha and WTF was with that eclipse???must hve wrong tires or don't know how to launch???
jonovaun09 1 year ago
those mustangs stock are really not fast but they r a base to start a fast car.
cagonesss 1 year ago
wow fuck mustangs then that 240 blew its fucken doors off
bigenginesismythang 1 year ago
@bigenginesismythang Look at the trap speed. ET is a bad judge of performance, it can go up or down considerably based on tires, launch technique, weather, track conditions and more. Trap speed stays VERY consistent however. The Mustang trapped 108 to the 240's 105.
gtdrummerdude 1 year ago
the trap speed doesnt matter cuz the fact still is the 5.0 got blown away by a four cylinder thats pretty sad
bigenginesismythang 1 year ago
@bigenginesismythang Doesn't matter? Dude, you need a little experience with racing first before going around trying to swing your dick. ET can change drastically depending on traction, but trap speed stays nearly the same regardless of traction, therefor trap speed is the TRUE indicator of how fast a car is. The Stang trapped 3 mph faster than the 240, therefor the Mustang is the faster car.
gtdrummerdude 1 year ago
@gtdrummerdude The 240 was on slicks while the Mustang was on street tires so yea, the 240 crossed the traps before the Mustang, but the Mustang is still the faster car because it had a higher trap speed. Put slicks on the Mustang and it would win. BTW the 240 was clearly heavily modified, lots of boost. The Mustang probably had H/C/I and still has TONS of room to grow. A bone stock 5.0 with a turbo and supporting fuel mods will go high 10s @ 125 mph.
gtdrummerdude 1 year ago
but a slower driver its not just traction its his reaction time also the car might have taller gears which would make him slower but have more top end so there u go
bigenginesismythang 1 year ago
@bigenginesismythang Reaction time is not factored into heads up races. The timer starts when your tires break the beam, regardless of how long after the light turns green that is. Just watch the race dude. It's dead obvious that the 240 is on slicks and the Mustang is on street tires. On slicks, the Mustang would be in the mid-low 12s.
gtdrummerdude 1 year ago
i disagree about the reaction time but if the 240 took him only because of tires then the mustang should have gained on him at the end but he was still a near second behind which is a pretty big distance i like five o's but i think this one got smoked
bigenginesismythang 1 year ago
@bigenginesismythang I don't care if you disagree. It's not my opinion, it's how drag racing works, it's a fact. Reaction time only factors into your ET in a bracket race. Think whatever you want. Someday if you get into racing deep enough that you're building your own cars to race with, you'll understand that trap speed is the true honest indicator of a car's performance, not ET.
gtdrummerdude 1 year ago
well i do care because that isnt how it works how is the time gona start when you leave ??? the cars would leave whenever they want wich would make them leave at different times and i do know because im building my own car right now and i know for a fact even if the mustang had drag tires the 240 still would have got him at first i dont give a fuck how fast it was going at the end cuz its still slow from a dig and the 240 would have got him everytime
bigenginesismythang 1 year ago
@bigenginesismythang You're clueless. You don't even know how the timer at a dragstrip works, how do you expect to be credible in automobile racing? Waste of my time.
gtdrummerdude 1 year ago
dude your clueless speed doesnt say how fast a car is it helps but it isnt the only thing otherwise theyre wouldnt be a timer! your a waste of your own time
bigenginesismythang 1 year ago
wow that dude in the eclipse did NOT know how to launch
FORDGTFANATIC 1 year ago
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its all about the driver
who ever was driving that stang didnt know what tey were doing
MrTommelton 1 year ago
its all about the driver
who ever was driving that stang didnt know what tey were doing
MrTommelton 1 year ago
@MrTommelton
Yes it is all about the driver.. The Nissan driver chose a better car than an old Ford Mustang! The Nissan is a 14s car stock and the Ford is a 15s car. Ive even seen old Honda Crx's beat them!
JDMFLAMER 1 year ago
its all about the driver
MrTommelton 1 year ago
how the fuck races an infiniti suv???
Imaman93 1 year ago
guys my friend have a 240sx whit a sr20det i will buy a 90lx 5.0l, ican beat him whit this car??
TheMustpower 1 year ago
@TheMustpower with a couple of bolt ons for sure
94STANG562 1 year ago
oh yea and 12 sec on that first nissan. hm put about 20k in that car to do what a mustang can stock. add the same mod money to the mustang it will be running 9's
foxstang4life 1 year ago
foxstang4life.
A Mustang like that POS fox doesn't run 12s stock. The crappy old 5L cammer can only manage 15s with a huge 200hp.
Good luck to anyone trying to get a 9 out of one thats for sure.
Being an owner of an SR20det i can tell you 12s can be done with only bolt ons.
Eg 3" exhaust off turbo , 38-40mm external wastegate , front mounted intercooler , cold air box , Ecu tune. This will make about 300whp. With a larger turbo 400whp+ can be made on a stock block easily.
JDMFLAMER 1 year ago
@JDMFLAMER , anyone running 15's with a 5.0L foxbody Mustang doesn't have a clue how to drive it. Simple as that. Even an average driver could easily get mid-14's out of them on a bad day.
EvenSteven2004 1 year ago
@EvenSteven2004
Give yourself some credit by posting up your video. According to factory figures the Mustang was a 15 sec car. There is a big difference between 15s and high 13's in terms of hp especially when a stock Mustang has only around 200hp!
JDMFLAMER 1 year ago
@JDMFLAMER , I don't have any videos to prove it. This was back in 1988 when I purchased the car new. Most magazines posted high 14 second times for 5-spee 5.0L Mustangs back then, but mine came from the factory with the better rear gears and no A/C. It was basically a light weight stripped car and it did run in the 13's bone stock. I'm not the only one who ran 13's with a stock Mustang back then either.
EvenSteven2004 1 year ago
@EvenSteven2004 no they cant. my nissan maxima beats them and im talkin roll racing. so its not like its coming down to driver. my fastes run inthe max was 14.8. thos 5.0s they can be made fast but stock are on the slowside. its a bold claim saying that an average driver can get mid 14's out of them on a bad day. because i know thats not true first hand.
bpunlife 1 year ago
@bpunlife, it's absolutely true. Anyone who knows anything about Mustangs knows that the foxbody 5.0L cars were mid 14's right off the showroom floor. Like I said, I was a 5.0L owner, so I know first hand. BTW, roll racing is gay and the fact that you raced Mustang from a roll shows that you know nothing about how Mustang perform. They are high torque cars, so they pull hard from a dead stop. Racing from a roll is stupid for a Mustang driver to do in the first place.
EvenSteven2004 1 year ago
nissan pwned all thats all i saw...
mannieandtela 1 year ago
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mustangs suck end of story it dont matter how much time and money u spend on them they will always suck ...... now a camaro is a true beast but import will always win
Shawn1Crozier 2 years ago
People who know well about cars don't bash mustangs because they realize the amount of nearly unlimited potential they have for not that much money. Those who bash Mustangs (or any other type of american car) are mostly hardcore import purists who are too close minded to open their eyes to anything "American".
jimbom347 2 years ago 26
@jimbom347 No wonder Imports retain their value better than domestics....it all makes sense now!!!...does it hurt?
chinhhhhh 1 year ago
@chinhhhhh Not all imports bro. Also let me clarify that I was talking about fox body mustangs. When it comes to a car from 20 years ago and people are constantly comparing anything newer with better technology and rave "yay I beat that piece of shit!" It makes me laugh
jimbom347 1 year ago
@jimbom347 mustangs aint cheap maybe da old ones but nothing past 2000 can make an engine buy a used car and still suup it up, compared to buying a mustang , and the used car would win
McOrca09 1 year ago
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xExRxIxCxKx 1 year ago
@jimbom347 that goes both ways. the domestic purists that hate anything import think the same way. i just wish people stopped giving a fuck and realized that americans, europeans, and asians all make good cars. some of them just make more good cars than others COUGHnissan,toyota,mazdaCOUGH
ahahaha :D
xExRxIxCxKx 1 year ago
@xExRxIxCxKx You are right it does go both ways and I wouldn't agree with American purists either. I wouldn't overlook something just because of the brand and people need to keep an open mind. I wouldn't trade my 86 5.0 or my Maxima for anything even though the I had to replace a poorly designed radiator support that rotted out prematurely, constant CELs, and defective CV joint boots on the Max which has 66k on it.
jimbom347 1 year ago
@jimbom347 lol same same here. i wouldn't trade my wd21 pathfinder that has the wackest IFS set up ever cuz it's reliable as fuck. and even though our suburbans transmission went out at 50k miles it's proven itself to be quite reliable as well.
xExRxIxCxKx 1 year ago
@jimbom347 ur right, but theyll only do good in drag anyway
Skurai477 1 year ago
stock for stock 5.0l vs sr20det who will win?
TheMustpower 2 years ago
people dont bash the mustang... people who know well about cars do... just because they know how stupid of an idea it was to make them... mustangs are the ultimate humiliation machines
kingcamilo 2 years ago
yeah thats why the mustang is recognised always even these old ones but jap cars just come and go and noone cares no one misses them they r just like tumbleweeds crossing the road and dissapears who cares.mustangs have much more potential than your moms car
cagonesss 1 year ago
People has their likes and dislikes. If you like import, buy an import. If you like domestic or a muscle car, buy a muscle car. Honestly... I got a 240sx.. Use that to race/drift.. But i got a sweet Ford Explorer XLT... Loving it LOL
tefoalalau 2 years ago
@tefoalalau exactly but honestly if you ever drive a high hp v8 once youll never want to go back
foxstang4life 1 year ago 2
ive driven a 95 mustang gt 5.0, a honda crx, a honda prelude, and a iroc camaro. And in all truth i would rather own jdm then a muscle car. Too much money to keep up a v8, you have high insurance, not so good gas milage. And plus too many douchebags drive mustangs. Not soo many drive datsun 510's and Hachi Roku's. I respect v8's but i will never own one
Xerxes371 1 year ago
eclipse missed 2nd? what happend?
billybobpeach 2 years ago
This is why you should buy american. hahaha. Invest 20 grand go No where, get beat by vq powere suv's
VQ35S14 2 years ago
i'm a nissan guy, but why do people bash the mustang? it's a great car especially with some mods and a good driver, have any of you run against an intelligently modded stang?
dsportnissan 2 years ago 2
same here i absolutely am a nissan guy, espesially the GTR R34, so sad its not allowed in canada and I also love the stangs espesially the 93 models ;)
Tarnjit69 2 years ago
@Tarnjit69
No r34's ? damn that's harsh, you can get em here in the states just at a nice penny...but still worth it. You can also purchase em from military personel that had theirs shipped for a good price here also and smog legal
dsportnissan 2 years ago
lucky ass :P fuck, canada is soo pussy even though i live here I mean cops are pobbly scared that a stock R34 will outrun their cop cars not only in speed but handling and all that, the only shitty part is that the steering is on the rght side
Tarnjit69 2 years ago
@Tarnjit69
love them stangs too bro, dont' under estimate em for sure!! lol
dsportnissan 2 years ago
At least none of you fuckers live in California =/ NOTHINGS legal here
0ukami 2 years ago