Homosexual men have the highest rate of sexually transmitted diseases. Homosexual men have the highest rate of sex crimes. Homosexual men have the highest rate of suicides. Homosexual men have the highest rate of mental illnesses.
the bible it self is full of mistakes ! i heard about a book called 50 thousand errors in the bible ! yet the quran stays without mistakes ..the fact is that the bible was flawless until popes and priests started changing its context ..because acording to the nowadays bible i can kill you all and rape your family and get away with it because jesus died for my sins . now is that really possible !? so first you have to look into other religions other than the bible try islam for example
I can not wait to see U when U stand before GOD ALMIGHTY at the White Thrown Judgement to see the look on U'r face just be4 U are cast into THE LAKE OF FIRE that was not created 4 U but for Satan & those who refuse the LOVE OF GOD in their lives. GIVE ME SCIENTIFIC FACTS PROVEN BEYOND A DOUBT>(REPEATED TEST BY OTHER SCIENTIST), NOT JUST SOME HOMO SCIENTIST OPINION.
You are grasping at straws & throwing them at us viewers as "facts" . Never do you give any factual research for us to view & judge R-selves.
Weither U feel GOD is wrong or not does not change the facts that GOD calls Homos an ABOMINATION that go against HIS CREATED WILL FOR US. HE destroyed several homo practicing cities around Sodom & Gomorrah showing the result of doing such filthy disease producing unhealthy habits of deviant sex. Because it feels good does not make it normal.
This video or your video mr k87jury proved nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. only your opinion or some would be researchers opinions that U read or saw a video of. You give no facts or address to us to go to & look at ourselves. R U hiding something? The only homosex U will find in the animal kingdom occurs when a male (?) has the pheromones / blood of a female whos in heat on them. I've done physical research on this myself & only when the males have the pheromones of a female on them does it occur
I got nothing against people who are gay, and in fact I try to accept them for who they are. I want to make that clear.
But, just like me, we are ALL born with sin right from the start. This is from the "original sin" of Adam and Eve. This is the "natural" state of humans...sin. You could live a perfect life and still not be redeemed because of that original sin. So it doesn't matter if gay is "natural" or "not a choice"...not in God's eyes.
“Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”" saris [ סריס ] is the Hebrew word commonly translated to eunuchs and that saris which is also commonly used to mean homosexuals
also dont forget that the bible also says we can choose our views and still be able to be right which is 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." and even so theres a part of the bible that also raises the question of it being ok too be homosexual
@zerukeMIVETU Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 24Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:29For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Leviticus 20:13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: = CUTOFF = PUT TO DEATH,
@zerukeMIVETU Romans 1:21-27 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened..25Who changed the truth of God into a lie,26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:27And 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; .
@zerukeMIVETU ROM1:27 men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.Rm V:25= When you interpret 1Tim to give you the choice to have your own view, you Change the Truth of God into a lie. As you can see, Lev18:22-Does not allow you to have the view of Homos you want you DEFILE yourself. Eunuchs were common to take care of women, not homos. God was not speaking of Homos, but of Real Eunuchs. YOUR THINKING IS DEFILED
@zerukeMIVETU There is NO PART OF THE BIBLE THAT SAYS IT'S OK. Lev & Rom make it very clear what GOD thinks. GOD DOES NOT CHANGE. & 2 Tim says nothing about you having your own views. It tells us that the Word of God is for instruction in RIGHTEOUSNESS, not deviation from what GOD intended for man & women to have in SEX. & Rabbis don't mean a thing to a man/women walking according to the Word of God PLEASE READ LEV 18 & ROM 1 AGAIN AND EXPLAIN WHAT YOU THINK GOD MEANS - I WILL WAIT
@zerukeMIVETU The Bible says 'All scripture is given by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:' (II Timothy 3:16). also Titus 1:9-11, 13 'Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and
@sirtone69 it also say it can be corrected too 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." .....also more and more rabbi(s) are incline to that homosexuality is god given at birth and theres an article on it too google Rabbi Steinberg-Caudill should have "HOMOSEXUALITY & THE HEBREW BIBLE" its extensive
@zerukeMIVETU DOUNTENUS - For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith. NOW, WHAT DOES GOD SAY HE DOES NOT WANT HAPPENING THAT COULD SUBVERT WHOLE HOUSES? = Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION:= God does not change.
@sirtone69 Do you have statistical evidence to back up your claim? That is your opinion and you are allowed to believe in it and live by it. In my opinion you are wrong, please stop trying to put yourself higher than others.
@youngsaintsfan For one thing, Mary is not part of Christianity belief system. It is part of the cult of Catholics, not Bible believing Christians.You are confused as to who Christian give praise to.: Mary is not special or better than any other human & was a sinner like the rest of humanity. Jesus isGod N the Flesh & we worship HIM as GOD. Mary was used by GOD to bring HIS DNA to mate with Human DNA 2 make a MAN who had NO sin as Sin is passed down thru the male Blood line, not thru thefemales
oh this video makes my laugh on the inside you sound like such a fool, you truly hav no idea what ur talking bout, get ur facts straight...Jesus loves you
We do not feel the homosexuality is wrong. We are told it is wrong by GOD in HIS WORD. He predicts the future correctly 100% which proves HIS WORD is right. If U were to take the time to research this, U would understand, but U'r hearts are darkened by U'r sin & rejection of HIS LOVE 4 U. The Bible is over 45% predictive writings which are easy to see & prove. It's like a map to the right place & you close U'r eyes to it wonders. WE DO NOT HATE YOU ONLY U'r NASTY SEX. Butts R no place 4 a penis
Every society that has practiced homo sex has fallen from power within 2 generations. they are gone. America is next thanks to YOU. Judgement is coming, sooner that U think and when it does, you will find yourself with no way to change U'r heart before the GOD U do not believe in. U'r grandfathers most likely believed in this GOD but you have forsaken HIM to U'r own destruction. What a shame when GOD died for U to be saved from the coming wrath HE is going to pour out on U'r unbelieving heart.
As usual you homos think that Christian hate you. Which is a lie. We hate the sin you choose to live. Not YOU. God does not hate you. He died to give you an alternative to the punishment that is coming if you chose to reject His Sacrifice for YOU. But, you use this imaginary hatred to close your minds to those who only what to see you saved from what is coming. Either in this life ( DISEASE) OR HELL, which ever comes 1st for you. WE DO NOT HATE YOU. STOP SAYING IT. GOD IS CLEAR, REPENT OR .
K87 homosexual people suffer with the 1st and highest rate of sexual diseases which is not normal. So, being queer does harm to U. Straight people get it from folks who had sex w / homo's There are no Gay animals period Any animals who do it to other males because of the scent of the female pheromones they got from being with a female in heat near any homo actions U might see the male do as they smell the female pheromones on the other male and animals do not see like we do. they smell for ID.
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, ...
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, ...
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
@UAOshuffling24 lmfao!!! Says the person who can't spell "you're" or "you" correctly. Fucking hilarious! Go give God a blow job..oh wait, he doesn't exist! xD
Firstly I would like to state that although I consider myself a Christian I have no Problem with people who are homosexual, simply the choice. I am not saying I disapprove of anyone and I have met people of various sexual orientation and found them to be very polite and fun to hang out with.
I would however like to say that you're point didn't disprove the Bible in the slightest, The idea of unnatural relations is stating the idea of removing the purpose of intercourse among humans, to breed.
Ignoring truths you refuse to accept wont make them go away or make life contrary to them any better, easier or happier.
The fact that you think this topic of bestiality even has the integrity to be considered seriously is an appalling relfection on the world today.
One day, I will not be able to say the truth- "that is not only abnormal, but disgusting and wrong" to you and homosexuality, because liberalism will permit sodom and gomorrah.
@thestrugglewithin omg will u shut up u stupid fucking moron your a cult of intolerant evil assholes who follow a dogmatic and tyrannical rule of an invisible man tht has supporteed war rape pillage plunder (all in the old testament b4 u rant how good god is) tht was imagined by primitive man tht was more n likely on halluccenogene THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HOMOSEXUALIITY!!! get a life u homophobic pansy
Yes theres absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality, besides the fact that its totally contrary to NATURE ITSELF.
DId you know that reproduction (natural) requires a penis and a vagina in order to work?
No joke it's been proven by this thing you might of heard of "science" and most importantly "general knowledge".
I no longer engage in theological discussions with people that have never even studied the Bible, let alone know which version is trust-worthy and WHY.
@thestrugglewithin lol so since it wasnt made to be like tht means its evil your a fuckin idiot and i am dying of laughter because there is absolutly nothing morally wrong with homosexuality and yes i have studied the bible i went to bible study numerous times and it was all stupid brainwashing bullshit..............FUCK GOD HAIL SATAN MAY HE REIGN IN BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Cornbread395 U can slur the Bible all U want. Facts, It is over 45% prophetic writings which have been proven to have happened and the events taking place on earth & in Mankind now was predicted to happen after Israel became a country again during this time period. Everything the Bible says will happen is HAPPENING AT THIS VERY MOMENT, Mathematically it is impossible for what was written over 2000 yrs ago to happen by accident with such accuracy. Being Blind as U R, leaves U pitifully sick
@MPPFLIPP You just keep thinking that way and when you stand before GOD in judgement, you will think back about your words you've said and wonder why you were so blind and stupid to not really research the Mathematics of the chances of the Bible foretelling the future so perfectly accurate as it has and how you missed it because of your stupidity and blindness. Your words make clear of your darkened heart and your lost condition. I've studied circles around you which is why I came to Trust GOD
Right of course you have. I mean it isn't like the passage that mentions Israel doesn't actually match up with how it became a nation-state. It isn't like I know reality.
You have faith in magic because you are a cruel little child. The fact that you believe in magic should be quite telling. So go ahead. Threaten that your imaginary friend will hurt me because I am not as gullible as you.
@k87jury For 1 thing I do not believe in magic. God is not magic. He is the natural & we are the sub-natural in eternity.I do not believe in God by superstition, but by the proofs of what the Bible has predicted & has ALL COME TRUE. This is believing in the mathematical consequences of the odds of these things happening by chance. In my experience I have prayed for emergency things that were answered so effectively that there is no way such events could have happened by chance.
@k87jury I am not threatening U with anything. U make up in U'r own mind what U imagine me to say. That is part of U'r problem that skews U'r understanding of things. I only told U what the Bible says will happen to those who refuse to prove there is a GOD or not. U chose not to and in so doing, U condemn U'r self to lost. It is U'r choice not GODS. HE did all He could to save U but U think U know more than a book that tells us the future before it happens with absolute accuracy.
@MPPFLIPP HAHAHAHAHAHA U R A FUCKIN MORON DUDE UGUYS SAY THT SHIT IS HAPPENING WHEN SHIT LIKE THT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING SINCE THE BEGIINING OF TIME FUCK U U FUCKIN LOSER I LOVE HOW CHRISTIANS ALWAYS COME UP WITH SOME LAUGHABLY IGNORANT EXCUSE FERR Y THEIR GOD IS REAL BUTTO BE HONEST I DONT CARE IF HES REAL HES STILL A RUTHLESS TYRANT AND I REFUSE TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF A VILLIAN SO HAVE FUN LIVIN YERR SHACKLED LIFE WHILE IM LIVIN LIFE TO THE FULLEST
@Cornbread395 Yeah, live as U want CORN, U'r 100 or less years will not add up to a toot, once eternity has begun & U R in Eternal Fire for ETERNITY. while believers are LIVING IT UP for ETERNITY not just a few decades of life on earth as U did. U don't believe, but U never did any REAL RESEARCH in GODS WORD. PROPHECY ITSELF PROVES GODS WORD. But U'r too good to look at it as the facts may confuse U into believing. I'm happy U don't believe. Jesus blood could cover Ur Sin but U rejected it. Good
@Cornbread395 Oh so there is nothing wrong with a person Butt(ass), it is clean and sanitary? SURE it is the best place to put your mouth and penis?. No 1 gets an abnormal disease from using it to fornicate?, RIGHT? No 1 gets cancers from letting men do that to U? YOU ARE SICK AND SELF DECEIVED. to think homosexual actions R normal & OK. These habits R learned by habit & not born that way & any so called christian who thinks it's OK, will most likely hear Jesus say "Depart, I never knew YOU"
lol actually I like throwing in ad hominem arguments to fools on youtube even though it puts me at a debating disadvantage but it seems you lack the IQ to even have picked that up - so much for self-aggrandizing yourself as an agnostic.
Yes that is sad that you were 'forced' to read and I can relate to how negative experience in religion can lead to apostasy but hey, I chose to trust God in that He would lead me to the answers. 9 years later, there is none like God.
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo Not saying the majority of humans is gay, but there's a high chance bisexuality would be even more widespread than it already is (FAR higher than 5%, I'd expect 20% or more of out bisexuals plus a high amount of closet cases) if there weren't social stigmata and, especially for men, sanctions connected to it.
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo Doubting the 5% to be honest, especially if you consider the stigma attached to (male) homo- and bisexuality and the discounting of bisexuality in most studies. The Playboy conducted a surved in '82 which had 70% of men with bisexual experience and 20% of those with gay sex only label themselves as straight. You're right though, it's not normal in the sense that it's not considered the norm, just as women were considered abnormal for wearing trousers.
Its COMPLETELY wrong of so-called "christians" to say (or taunt?) "God hates gay people" because that is completely and utterly wrong because it is absolutely unscriptural - there is NO Biblical justification for that claim.
You reckon that homosexuality is NORMAL?
Ok, a penis inside another mans ass is not normal.
A lesbian couple is equally abnormal.
Do you consider bestiality wrong/abnormal/ an abomination?
How do you justify homosexuality as normal whilst condemn the sheep shagger?
thestrugglewithin, I'll be happy to help educate you. Homosexuality is completely normal and natural. God has always created, loved, and kept it right here on His planet, in both the human and animal kingdoms, as part of His divine plan. The reason why heterosexuality and homosexuality are normal, but bestiality is not, is because adult human beings can give informed consent to what relationships they want to engage in, and what they want to do with their own bodies. Animals cannot. See?
@GodCreatesGays2 like I said before, seeing same-sex interactions in the animal kingdom, and interpreting it to be homosexuality and thus a justification for homosexuality in humans, is a philsophical farce of an argument.
There is a video on YT of a chimp attempting to use a frogs mouth to masturbate. Apparently, this is more common than one would think, nevertheless, disturbing.
God only knows what the Chimp is thinking, but by your logic of observation, this should be normal too.
with the amount of crap on the internet, I'm sure someone has taking 'advantage' of this by deliberately positioning themselves so that the dog would literally have sex or anal sex with them.
Thats bestiality and the issue of consent is out the window because the dog is the one doing the deed; consent on both sides, thus your argument is invalid.
Heck you could even argue that you are doing the dog a favour & thus its is OK.
Thestrugglewithin, pointing out the reality, that homosexuality exists in both the human and animal kingdom, easily refutes the absurd notion that it is "against nature". How can that which has always existed within nature BE "unnatural"? Certain heterosexuals have long sexually abused children, their pets, even inanimate objects, so by your logic, that would render heterosexuality unnatural and disturbing as well. Interesting the lengths anti-gays will go to, to justify their prejudice.
@GodCreatesGays2 "against nature" I was meaning the nature of the human species. eg; it is against nature for a human to have sexual desire towards animals.
Using small aspects of animal life to justify the way you live is a ridiculous conclusion. When the male-female ratio of ducks exceed 1:4, it is common for females to drown because the excess of males end up raping them. Your logic suggests rape is there4 natural and normal. Comparing psychologically damaged people is ad hominem argument
TSW, of course, the very crux of your argument is crushed from the get-go, because the percentages of what exists in nature has no bearing on whether it's natural or not. If it's a part of nature, then it's natural. Within every group of humans and animals there are those with self-destructive behavior, but that does not mean that the entire community is flawed. God, in His infinite wisdom, has seen fit to create & keep homosexuality right here on His earth. His choices are good enough for me.
This is not about the percentage of what exists in nature, its about your utterly flawed justification of what is and what is not natural.
On the one hand, you use homosexuality in animals as justification for your own sexual preference yet through the same logic you refuse rape to be normal in the same respect via the duck example.
Once again, give me scriptural proof of God creating homosexuality as a defined & righteous purpose, free of anecdotal evidence.
TSW, I say this very carefully: just because logic and truth are beyond YOUR ken does not make them "flawed". God just knows more than you do, and all your irrational hypotheses and jumping to conclusions will not change that fact. It's His decision to keep homosexuality right here on His planet, in both the animal and human kingdoms, and all your foot stomping and vexation will never change His mind. You do have free will, and can choose to believe any nonsense you want, but why argue with God?
You will do anything to keep from answering my questions.Thus,I will continue to expose your lies and cowardice.Besting you is quite easy & I want all to see you for the fool you are.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
Kelly, do you keep embarrassing yourself like this, and throwing yourself at my feet, throwing temper tantrums, because you no other way of dealing with adult, intelligent women who would never give you the time of day in real life? Are you...crushing on me? I hate to be blunt, but you would NEVER even stand a chance. Sorry.
You will do anything to keep from answering my questions.
See, you are obsessed with being what you could never hope for in comparing your self to an intelligent,kind,mature,and lovely woman.All the things you dream of being.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
Even though these passages in scripture are directly to Jews within the Mosaic law (never given to Gentiles), an abomination to God is always an abomination aka - not within the created and designed purpose of God aka 'normal'.
TSW, He would not deign to argue with you personally, but you are contesting & fighting against the decisions He makes; how He sees fit to creates some of His children. You, & the fallible men who wrote, interpreted & mistranslated the Bible, try to insist that mortal men's opinions represent God's will more than His own creations and actions do. It's absurd, and a contention you can never win. Of course, you have the right to agree with these men, just as I have the right to agree with God.
@GodCreatesGays2 "...just as I have the right to agree with God." ??????????? well?: 1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell? 2)What is your gods name? 3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it. 4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus? 5)From where do you derive your moral code? ANSWER or ADMIT YOU ARE TOO AFRAID TO ANSWER TOO WEAK TO BE HONEST TOO STUPID TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
@GodCreatesGays2 God did not put man on earth to be Homo's. God also put sticks, rocks, metal, chemicals & other elements for man to use. HE did not put these things on earth for man to use to kill each other. That is mans choice & not GODS intentions. Men choose to do what they want. GOD gave us HIS WORD, the Bible & if GOD IS GOD HE has the power to keep HIS WORD TRUE through out history so all men can know what GOD WANTS IN OUR ACTIONS. Because U disagree w/GOD does not make the Bible untrue
@GodCreatesGays2 God has told man what HE expects them to act like. If HE wanted men to be Gay, he would not have written Leviticus 18:22-27. Men choose to suck each other, they are not born that way. Somewhere in each homos life a 1st time event took place, either with a family member or friend or stranger & they liked it and choose to do it again. A few times it becomes a habit & something to look forward to. Most homos do this long before they R with a women so they never develop that habit
@MPPFLIPP asserts, "God has told man what HE expects them to act like"
The problem is, many of the more hubris-driven prefer to listen to their own ilk, and the myths they, dreamed up in the Bible, instead of allowing God's actual will to penetrate their need for control and power.
"If HE wanted men to be Gay, he would not have written Leviticus 18:22-27"
Exactly. That's why we know that men, not God, fabricated the Bible. The actual Lord wants His gay children to be gay. Why argue with Him?
@GodCreatesGays2 U keep missing the Point. The Bible is not a dream made book, it is a Book that predicts the future with 100% accuracy which no man could do.There is no way that over 40 different writers could write a book over 2500 years & not disagree with each other. this is because GOD used men to write what HE wanted said so that Man is without excuse to say they did not know what GOD wanted from them Because U ignore it only condemns U to Eternal loss & a very unpleasant eternity w/No End
@MPPFLIPP it also says it can be corrected 2Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
GodCreatesG -There R over 25,000 ancient manuscripts in existence of the Bible and they do not disagree or counterdict each other. The Bible is quoted by countless thousands of Early Church fathers before 350 AD so that you can build the entire Bible from these quotes and none of them have changed or disagree with our Bible of today. In otherwords, the Bible has not changed or been made to say something other than what the originals say. A copy of Isaiah found to be 2800yrs old stayed the same
@GodCreatesGays2 What is your belief in "GODS REALITY"? Where did U acquire this belief, what books or teachers taught this Reality of GOD to U? GODS WORD can not counterdict GOD, not can GOD counterdict HIS WORD.- GOD SAYS "HIS WORD IS TRUTH" & HE proves it by foretelling the future and we can see it happen which proves it's value to us that see. Where did you learn your understanding of who GOD is? Please explain yourself with logic, not your opinions.
You will do anything to keep from answering my questions.Thus,I will continue to expose your lies and cowardice.Besting you is quite easy & I want all to see you for the fool you are.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
GodCreatesGayS GODS CHOICES R THESE = Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 24Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:29For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Leviticus 20:13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: =CONT
@GodCreatesGays2 = 13; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them
SO DO YOU AGREE WITH GOD OR NOT? = Romans 1:21-27 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.25Who changed the truth of God into a lie,26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And
@GodCreatesGays2 = 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. SO YOU SAID WHAT GOD SAYS (HIS CHOICES) IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU. THIS IS GODS WORD & NOT MY INTERPRETATIONS OF IT. GOD MAKES IT CLEAR, IT IS AN ABOMINATION TO GOD & SHOULD BE TO U ALSO.
@thestrugglewithin I took care of dogs & cats for many years. The only time I saw male dogs/cats acting like homo's is ONLY when there was a female in heat and some of the males had mated with her and had her blood or pheromones on their penis which the other male dogs could smell and thought that they were mating with a female dog because they are drawn to the smell not the fact that it was another male dog.Tested this over the years if no females in heat R near them no homo actions happen
The Bible doesnt say "its wrong" its says "Its an abomination"
The question is "abomination to who?"
Abomination to GOD because it is CONTRARY to the respective male-female roles in which God intended; just as ADULTER is ALSO listed as abomination to God. Twisting the truth to cover-up evil is also an abomination.
Looking at seemingly homosexual acts within animals is interpretation with a conflict of interest.
Homosexuality is created by the 'nurture over nature' concept; incredibly complex
Thestrugglewithin, sure, the fallible, confused men who wrote and misinterpreted the Bible may have concluded that it was wrong to be gay, but obviously, the mistake is theirs. God's vote is the only one that counts, and His continuing to create and keep His gay children on earth says it all: the Lord loves the gays. Why argue with Him?
TSW, "scriptural evidence" is an oxymoron, since scripture doesn't prove anything, and has itself been proven invalid. The only proof needed is this: God has always created some people to be gay, just as He creates some folks to be black or left-handed, two other conditions that have at times been condemned by Bible bangers as being "abhorrent" to God. None of this conjecture, against gays, blacks, lefties, etc., has any scientific, medical, or rational proof to back it up. Why argue with God?
Fijiandevil, your theory is easily decimated, however, by the facts: homosexuality has always existed in nature, as a fundamental component of it. Not every human being is meant to breed; that is not our sole function on the planet. The Lord has other plans as well. Why not just accept His will? Gays are part of His design.
Right, which is why the more religious a sex offender is, the more horrendous their crimes are and the younger their victims. That is why the more religious a society is religious, the dumber and more violet it's citizens.And also a book that talks about how rape is good is not a great book.
It amazes me how you are too stupid to keep track of the argument. First you guys say it is unnatural and therefore bad. Then when it is shown to be natural you state that being natural makes it bad. I state in my video that it is natural and it does not cause harm. The harm comes from homophobes like you. You are what is bad about this situation. You are bigot.
Oh... I'm so bad because i don't agree with someones sexual perversion? People who want to practice that lurid behavior should just keep it behavior closed doors.
@sirtone69 if all sins are equal than stealing a pencil is equivalent to being gay. for all those children who just committed suicide for being teased hell than everyone whose ever stolen repeatedly or lied repeatedly is going to hell? its called repenting and god forgives all.half the Christians protesting are sinning in the process they might as well be gay too. i went to a gay parade for support and a pastor pushed me to the ground and stepped on me. its all a contradiction
As if the bible needs help to be proven wrong. It's pretty clear it's full of shit on homosexuality, physics, dating and morality. This ofcourse doesn't stop at other religions.
im not going to debate with you,the evidence is in Gods holy word in the gospel,the evidence is faith,if you dont have faith you wont believe,im not begging you to believe,im trying to help you
Faith is belief without evidence, as in it is not evidence.
You claim there is evidence, but you fail to bring anything empirical. Which seems to indicate that you don't have evidence, and you know it. All you have is a feeling, and in your circle of friends that is good enough. But now that you have met someone who wants actual evidence, you are left there confused and just parroting the same statement over and over again.
believe the gospel k87jury,pray to God the father he created you,if you turn your heart towards God he will turn to you,just be careful before you denounce the holy spirit there is NO forgiveness for that,im just trying to help you understand,but only God the father can help you,dont put your trust in man,man will always let you down,but God won't if you turn your heart to him and trust in him
Well bring forth your EVIDENCE or go home. If we are going to speak about this like intelligent adults, you can't just beg me to believe you. You have to present me with the evidence.
i do have proof of God,by the holy spirit and Gods words,which is something you dont have,which is the reason your so hard hearted,you get your answers from man but i get them from the creator,and "repent and believe in the spagetti monster"?so your mocking the only one who can save your soul?,be careful before you denounce the only one who can save you,i will pray for you
you dont know God or have God in your life k87jury you believe in the world and the things of the world,k87jury,be careful before you denounce the God that wants to save you,but if you keep rebelling he'll give you exactly what you want,and make it seem right to you,and yes i have evidence of God by the Holy Spirit,and by Gods word
Wait so now you are saying you DO have evidence. Well then there should be a test or some way to show that the Holy Spirit is real and not fictional. What test would you suggest. In what way can I objectively prove the existance of the Holy Spirit.
this man is a liar,the word of God is not wrong,being gay is wrong it is not normal,it is an abomination,the reason they are gay is because of sin,man can never prove Gods word wrong by doing silly foolish little tests and studies which mean nothing,its all vain,mans thoughts are vain,nothing can prove Gods holy word wrong,he must answer to the Judge of judges one day
So you admit that you have NO evidence for God, yet you expect me to believe. I am sorry, but I am not stupid enough to do that. You see, I need evidence to be convinced of something.
And also I'm honest. I actually care if the things I say are true. But you have faith, as in belief without evidence. So if you are wrong, you will keep saying it. That would be lying.
(1of2)You say you need evidence to believe in God. Evidence can come in many forms. Most athiests I encounter are not willing to accept this point. They will discount anything short of God ringing their doorbell and introducing Himself. Anything less will always be passed off as mere coincidence, a chance happening, if you will. You must understand folks, God already did everything He needed to do to come to us. He didn't even have to do anything , He could have just cast us all away!! So,
(2of2) now it is up to US to decide whether to accept or reject Him. He authored a living collection of books known as the Bible, they are as relevant today as when they were written, because God is the same today as He was WHEN they were written. The author of this book STILL LIVES!! You can know Him, but you must come to Him on His terms, not yours. Your worldly wisdom will not work with Him, He is wisdom, He is truth, you do it His way or NO WAY. Only a sincere, humble approach will work.
it;s just child like faith, you don't have to have evidence to prove it, like when you were a child and you asked your parents for a bike and they said ok, you didn't know even if they had the money to buy it. you just belive what they said, if you put the same effort in believing in the word of God as you do and trying to dis prove it you will find out the truth, Just test Him and He will show you
How does this mean the Bible is wrong? The Bible does clearly states that homosexuality is wrong. But if you also use ure common since you can clearly see God made everything with free will. Just because some people choose to be a homosexual does not mean the Bibles rules dissapear all the sudden. This does not prove the Bible to be wrong in any sense whatsoever. And how you said we dont have a christian government, most of our government is based of biblical princeples.
humans were created to populate the planet and those gays are going againest god's wishes because he meant for humans to populate the planet. I dont hate homosexuals but those are my thoughts on gays,homos whatever want call them.
God created humans to procreate and to populate the planet also if god wanted 2 men or 2 woman to populate the earth then god would have given them those sex organs to do so.but created woman with the organs to give birth to more humankind and gave man organs to help the woman make babies.If god created 2 woman or 2 men and they didn't have the correct sex organs to populate the earth and then the humankind would die out.
I think the fact that gay people continue to justify their lifestyle over and over is proof that there is something built into them that condemns them. I don't see straight people doing this, only gay folk. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against gay people, I abhor ANY violence or mistreatment of them in ANY way, but I read in the Bible that God planted in each one of us the ability to know right from wrong, but it can be suppressed. We can decide to turn away from truth and be deluded.
Really. So all you homophobes saying it is wrong would have nothing to do with them defending it. I am straight and I am defending them because I am against bigotry.
You have turned away from the truth. You have decided to ignore reality and waste your life being a slave to a book that does not provide evidence, just threatens to torture you if you don't hate the same people the primitives that wrote the book hated.
@k87jury I find it so interesting how someone can be labeled a hater and a bigot when they're only transgression is to proclaim the truth. You may not realize it, but there is such a thing as right and wrong. I know it's not a popular stance to take these days, but wrong is just as wrong today as it was in the time of Christ. Friend, I have remained with the truth, and I will continue to do so as long as the author and finisher of my faith is none other than the creator of the universe. (Cont)
You have no truth. You have baseless assertion based on a book of fairy tales. And actually no, what was right and wrong in Christ's time isn't the same now. Slavery was just fine in Christ's time. In fact Jesus instructed slaves to be loyal to their Masters. But now the few of us who are no longer primitive know that slavery is wrong and to attempt to promote or justify it is evil.
@k87jury As far as me wasting my life being a slave to a book, even if there was no eternal reward to look forward to, I would still consider it a success to live by the message of loving my neighbor as myself, not stealing, not lying, not commiting adultery, not speaking about others behind their backs, not being drunk, not murdering others, I mean, whats there not to like?? You will find no place where the Bible tells us to "hate", except for sin. We do hate sin. Hell is for those refuse life!
@k87jury Instead of hurling insults, which is a very juvenile approach, why not attempt to get a reasonable answer about why someone would want to put their trust in a vengeful God. The premise of your question is not that unreasonable, but when presented in the manner you have chosen, you will find few who will bother to reply, assuming you wish a reply. I am willing to have an intelligent dialog with you if you can be civil.
"why someone would want to put their trust in a vengeful God."
I don't know, it seems like a stupid idea. Of course you are the one doing it and not me so you would be the best candidate to answer that question.
And I don't really see how those were insults. Your God states himself that he is jealous, he displaces actions that are spiteful, has ordered genocides to happen, and tortures people, which is very prickish.
To man's view point it may be very different but if you read the bible it states it to be a sin and to this day there has been no person group that can prove different. Please don't lie when your not telling the truth.
I didn't say that the Bible was ok with gays. I said it was wrong. The bible also says that a man lived in a whale, two girls took turns raping their drunk father, and a whole lot of other primitive hilarity.
And since you can't come up with any other reason besides "My imaginary friend doesn't like it", I am going to go with the evidence.
1 Corinthians 6:18 In this verse The apostle Paul says to run from sexual sin. This is the only sin where we are told to run!!! Don't get caught up in this one because it is a sin against your own body. The acronym G.A.Y. stands for Good-As-You!!! The big lie of Satan is that homosexuality is a normal lifestyle!!! This is a snare of the devil and must be avoided at all cost!!!!
@MangleMii What would any explanation to you regarding the dino"s do to help you with your unbelief? Friend, you don't want to believe in God. So, no explanation will ever suffice. You will simply reject any answer given. All I can say to you is "For the fool has said in his heart, there is no God". You just may have to learn the hard way. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. The surprise the unbeliever will get will be shocking, but your fate will be sealed, no hope,too bad!
Well, if you could actual explain things, give evidence, etc. then you could be consider credibly. Since all you can do is try to scare us with a boogie man invented in the desert, we don't see any reason to take you seriously.
Maybe if you threaten people with leprechauns it would work out better.
2 of 2) There are things in the Bible I could show you that man could not have known at the time of writing, things that are truly astounding. But if you are willing to play this one out with the cards you currently hold, I wish you all the best!!
@k87jury( 1 of 2) What evidence would you like me to provide? I know that if I were involved in something that a book with the amazing factual credibility of the Bible stated would lead to me being in torment for eternity, I would want to know all I could know before making my final judgement about its validity.
@MangleMii it in the book of Job 40:15-17, God talks to Job about a animal that eat grass and how God describe the animal it's a dinosaurs Behemoth "Google it"
Homosexual men have the highest rate of sexually transmitted diseases. Homosexual men have the highest rate of sex crimes. Homosexual men have the highest rate of suicides. Homosexual men have the highest rate of mental illnesses.
sirtone69 1 month ago
the bible it self is full of mistakes ! i heard about a book called 50 thousand errors in the bible ! yet the quran stays without mistakes ..the fact is that the bible was flawless until popes and priests started changing its context ..because acording to the nowadays bible i can kill you all and rape your family and get away with it because jesus died for my sins . now is that really possible !? so first you have to look into other religions other than the bible try islam for example
h5348227 1 month ago
The bible speaks of sexual rituals and rape, along with idolatry. It says nothing about homosexuality. Read the first 6 verses of leviticus 18.
smurfboywv 4 months ago
The Bible is a good book. And you should not be attacking the word of God to justify your sexual fetish.
If you want to do whatever you then keep it private and stop picking a fight with the word of God.
sirtone69 5 months ago
why dont you do some research on the health risks of homosexuality, then say its safe...stupid moron.
1800TROLL4U 6 months ago
I can not wait to see U when U stand before GOD ALMIGHTY at the White Thrown Judgement to see the look on U'r face just be4 U are cast into THE LAKE OF FIRE that was not created 4 U but for Satan & those who refuse the LOVE OF GOD in their lives. GIVE ME SCIENTIFIC FACTS PROVEN BEYOND A DOUBT>(REPEATED TEST BY OTHER SCIENTIST), NOT JUST SOME HOMO SCIENTIST OPINION.
MPPFLIPP 7 months ago
You are grasping at straws & throwing them at us viewers as "facts" . Never do you give any factual research for us to view & judge R-selves.
Weither U feel GOD is wrong or not does not change the facts that GOD calls Homos an ABOMINATION that go against HIS CREATED WILL FOR US. HE destroyed several homo practicing cities around Sodom & Gomorrah showing the result of doing such filthy disease producing unhealthy habits of deviant sex. Because it feels good does not make it normal.
MPPFLIPP 7 months ago
This video or your video mr k87jury proved nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. only your opinion or some would be researchers opinions that U read or saw a video of. You give no facts or address to us to go to & look at ourselves. R U hiding something? The only homosex U will find in the animal kingdom occurs when a male (?) has the pheromones / blood of a female whos in heat on them. I've done physical research on this myself & only when the males have the pheromones of a female on them does it occur
MPPFLIPP 7 months ago
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cmstyles1882 7 months ago
I got nothing against people who are gay, and in fact I try to accept them for who they are. I want to make that clear.
But, just like me, we are ALL born with sin right from the start. This is from the "original sin" of Adam and Eve. This is the "natural" state of humans...sin. You could live a perfect life and still not be redeemed because of that original sin. So it doesn't matter if gay is "natural" or "not a choice"...not in God's eyes.
It is still sin, much like the original sin.
Kovatt2 8 months ago
“Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”" saris [ סריס ] is the Hebrew word commonly translated to eunuchs and that saris which is also commonly used to mean homosexuals
zerukeMIVETU 8 months ago
also dont forget that the bible also says we can choose our views and still be able to be right which is 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." and even so theres a part of the bible that also raises the question of it being ok too be homosexual
zerukeMIVETU 8 months ago
@zerukeMIVETU Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 24Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:29For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Leviticus 20:13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: = CUTOFF = PUT TO DEATH,
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@zerukeMIVETU Romans 1:21-27 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened..25Who changed the truth of God into a lie,26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:27And 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; .
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@zerukeMIVETU ROM1:27 men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.Rm V:25= When you interpret 1Tim to give you the choice to have your own view, you Change the Truth of God into a lie. As you can see, Lev18:22-Does not allow you to have the view of Homos you want you DEFILE yourself. Eunuchs were common to take care of women, not homos. God was not speaking of Homos, but of Real Eunuchs. YOUR THINKING IS DEFILED
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@zerukeMIVETU There is NO PART OF THE BIBLE THAT SAYS IT'S OK. Lev & Rom make it very clear what GOD thinks. GOD DOES NOT CHANGE. & 2 Tim says nothing about you having your own views. It tells us that the Word of God is for instruction in RIGHTEOUSNESS, not deviation from what GOD intended for man & women to have in SEX. & Rabbis don't mean a thing to a man/women walking according to the Word of God PLEASE READ LEV 18 & ROM 1 AGAIN AND EXPLAIN WHAT YOU THINK GOD MEANS - I WILL WAIT
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP shut up u religous loser SATAN is the way to go
Cornbread395 8 months ago
@Cornbread395 the Lord Jesus Christ loves you... so much, but don't take his love for granted, before it's too late. Ask Sodom and Gomorrah.
matandatolodi1989 7 months ago
@matandatolodi1989 dude even if god is real ima supporter of satan 666 may he rain the blood of angels upon us
Cornbread395 5 months ago
@zerukeMIVETU The Bible says 'All scripture is given by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:' (II Timothy 3:16). also Titus 1:9-11, 13 'Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
The Bible is not just a story book, it has be written over 100'S of years to complete it. The Bible way of living is a better way of living.
Homosexuality is an insult to God's creation.
The anti-bible way of living is completely floured because that is the way the devil wants you to live.
sirtone69 8 months ago
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zerukeMIVETU 8 months ago
@sirtone69 it also say it can be corrected too 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." .....also more and more rabbi(s) are incline to that homosexuality is god given at birth and theres an article on it too google Rabbi Steinberg-Caudill should have "HOMOSEXUALITY & THE HEBREW BIBLE" its extensive
zerukeMIVETU 8 months ago
@zerukeMIVETU DOUNTENUS - For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith. NOW, WHAT DOES GOD SAY HE DOES NOT WANT HAPPENING THAT COULD SUBVERT WHOLE HOUSES? = Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION:= God does not change.
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@sirtone69 Do you have statistical evidence to back up your claim? That is your opinion and you are allowed to believe in it and live by it. In my opinion you are wrong, please stop trying to put yourself higher than others.
Kirkzzy 8 months ago
I PISS ON YOUR JESUS I SHIT ON YOUR MARY!!!!!!
youngsaintsfan 9 months ago
@youngsaintsfan For one thing, Mary is not part of Christianity belief system. It is part of the cult of Catholics, not Bible believing Christians.You are confused as to who Christian give praise to.: Mary is not special or better than any other human & was a sinner like the rest of humanity. Jesus isGod N the Flesh & we worship HIM as GOD. Mary was used by GOD to bring HIS DNA to mate with Human DNA 2 make a MAN who had NO sin as Sin is passed down thru the male Blood line, not thru thefemales
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP I was quoting Coorprate Avenger, a band that sing anti religious songs :P
youngsaintsfan 8 months ago
@youngsaintsfan What was your purpose in quoting this Band, how does it add to the discussions?
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP cause I felt like it I guess
youngsaintsfan 8 months ago
oh this video makes my laugh on the inside you sound like such a fool, you truly hav no idea what ur talking bout, get ur facts straight...Jesus loves you
richmanking 9 months ago
We do not feel the homosexuality is wrong. We are told it is wrong by GOD in HIS WORD. He predicts the future correctly 100% which proves HIS WORD is right. If U were to take the time to research this, U would understand, but U'r hearts are darkened by U'r sin & rejection of HIS LOVE 4 U. The Bible is over 45% predictive writings which are easy to see & prove. It's like a map to the right place & you close U'r eyes to it wonders. WE DO NOT HATE YOU ONLY U'r NASTY SEX. Butts R no place 4 a penis
MPPFLIPP 9 months ago
@MPPFLIPP The bible also clearly states that certain instances of rape, murder, slavery and genocide are justified. Get an education.
emperor0013 8 months ago
Every society that has practiced homo sex has fallen from power within 2 generations. they are gone. America is next thanks to YOU. Judgement is coming, sooner that U think and when it does, you will find yourself with no way to change U'r heart before the GOD U do not believe in. U'r grandfathers most likely believed in this GOD but you have forsaken HIM to U'r own destruction. What a shame when GOD died for U to be saved from the coming wrath HE is going to pour out on U'r unbelieving heart.
MPPFLIPP 9 months ago
As usual you homos think that Christian hate you. Which is a lie. We hate the sin you choose to live. Not YOU. God does not hate you. He died to give you an alternative to the punishment that is coming if you chose to reject His Sacrifice for YOU. But, you use this imaginary hatred to close your minds to those who only what to see you saved from what is coming. Either in this life ( DISEASE) OR HELL, which ever comes 1st for you. WE DO NOT HATE YOU. STOP SAYING IT. GOD IS CLEAR, REPENT OR .
MPPFLIPP 9 months ago
K87 homosexual people suffer with the 1st and highest rate of sexual diseases which is not normal. So, being queer does harm to U. Straight people get it from folks who had sex w / homo's There are no Gay animals period Any animals who do it to other males because of the scent of the female pheromones they got from being with a female in heat near any homo actions U might see the male do as they smell the female pheromones on the other male and animals do not see like we do. they smell for ID.
MPPFLIPP 9 months ago
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Romans 1
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, ...
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
wilby1414 10 months ago
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Romans 1
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, ...
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
wilby1414 10 months ago
your dumb u atheist
UAOshuffling24 10 months ago
@UAOshuffling24 lmfao!!! Says the person who can't spell "you're" or "you" correctly. Fucking hilarious! Go give God a blow job..oh wait, he doesn't exist! xD
Sploggez 9 months ago
It may be natural but It is not normal
gunniesack 11 months ago
@gunniesack How do you define normal? Not everyone is exactly the same. Black people aren't "normal" does that give me a right to be racist?
Sploggez 9 months ago
the bible is NOT wrong,dont listen to what mankind says,listen to what the lord says.
fluffybuni22 11 months ago
@fluffybuni22 The bible quotes "the lord" dumbass.
Sploggez 9 months ago
you look like shit
2CSST2 1 year ago
Firstly I would like to state that although I consider myself a Christian I have no Problem with people who are homosexual, simply the choice. I am not saying I disapprove of anyone and I have met people of various sexual orientation and found them to be very polite and fun to hang out with.
I would however like to say that you're point didn't disprove the Bible in the slightest, The idea of unnatural relations is stating the idea of removing the purpose of intercourse among humans, to breed.
BiasFree 1 year ago
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@BiasFree Homosexuality isn't a choice.
Sploggez 9 months ago
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wow you are a complete moron!
fillthevoidmike 1 year ago
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo
keep telling yourself that.
Ignoring truths you refuse to accept wont make them go away or make life contrary to them any better, easier or happier.
The fact that you think this topic of bestiality even has the integrity to be considered seriously is an appalling relfection on the world today.
One day, I will not be able to say the truth- "that is not only abnormal, but disgusting and wrong" to you and homosexuality, because liberalism will permit sodom and gomorrah.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
@thestrugglewithin omg will u shut up u stupid fucking moron your a cult of intolerant evil assholes who follow a dogmatic and tyrannical rule of an invisible man tht has supporteed war rape pillage plunder (all in the old testament b4 u rant how good god is) tht was imagined by primitive man tht was more n likely on halluccenogene THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HOMOSEXUALIITY!!! get a life u homophobic pansy
Cornbread395 1 year ago
@Cornbread395
Yes theres absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality, besides the fact that its totally contrary to NATURE ITSELF.
DId you know that reproduction (natural) requires a penis and a vagina in order to work?
No joke it's been proven by this thing you might of heard of "science" and most importantly "general knowledge".
I no longer engage in theological discussions with people that have never even studied the Bible, let alone know which version is trust-worthy and WHY.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
@thestrugglewithin lol so since it wasnt made to be like tht means its evil your a fuckin idiot and i am dying of laughter because there is absolutly nothing morally wrong with homosexuality and yes i have studied the bible i went to bible study numerous times and it was all stupid brainwashing bullshit..............FUCK GOD HAIL SATAN MAY HE REIGN IN BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cornbread395 11 months ago
@Cornbread395 U can slur the Bible all U want. Facts, It is over 45% prophetic writings which have been proven to have happened and the events taking place on earth & in Mankind now was predicted to happen after Israel became a country again during this time period. Everything the Bible says will happen is HAPPENING AT THIS VERY MOMENT, Mathematically it is impossible for what was written over 2000 yrs ago to happen by accident with such accuracy. Being Blind as U R, leaves U pitifully sick
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP
Just keep sucking your cosmic zombie's cock because obviously that keeps you too busy from actually reading your Bible or knowing anything.
k87jury 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP You just keep thinking that way and when you stand before GOD in judgement, you will think back about your words you've said and wonder why you were so blind and stupid to not really research the Mathematics of the chances of the Bible foretelling the future so perfectly accurate as it has and how you missed it because of your stupidity and blindness. Your words make clear of your darkened heart and your lost condition. I've studied circles around you which is why I came to Trust GOD
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP
Right of course you have. I mean it isn't like the passage that mentions Israel doesn't actually match up with how it became a nation-state. It isn't like I know reality.
You have faith in magic because you are a cruel little child. The fact that you believe in magic should be quite telling. So go ahead. Threaten that your imaginary friend will hurt me because I am not as gullible as you.
k87jury 8 months ago
@k87jury For 1 thing I do not believe in magic. God is not magic. He is the natural & we are the sub-natural in eternity.I do not believe in God by superstition, but by the proofs of what the Bible has predicted & has ALL COME TRUE. This is believing in the mathematical consequences of the odds of these things happening by chance. In my experience I have prayed for emergency things that were answered so effectively that there is no way such events could have happened by chance.
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@k87jury I am not threatening U with anything. U make up in U'r own mind what U imagine me to say. That is part of U'r problem that skews U'r understanding of things. I only told U what the Bible says will happen to those who refuse to prove there is a GOD or not. U chose not to and in so doing, U condemn U'r self to lost. It is U'r choice not GODS. HE did all He could to save U but U think U know more than a book that tells us the future before it happens with absolute accuracy.
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP HAHAHAHAHAHA U R A FUCKIN MORON DUDE UGUYS SAY THT SHIT IS HAPPENING WHEN SHIT LIKE THT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING SINCE THE BEGIINING OF TIME FUCK U U FUCKIN LOSER I LOVE HOW CHRISTIANS ALWAYS COME UP WITH SOME LAUGHABLY IGNORANT EXCUSE FERR Y THEIR GOD IS REAL BUTTO BE HONEST I DONT CARE IF HES REAL HES STILL A RUTHLESS TYRANT AND I REFUSE TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF A VILLIAN SO HAVE FUN LIVIN YERR SHACKLED LIFE WHILE IM LIVIN LIFE TO THE FULLEST
Cornbread395 8 months ago
@Cornbread395 Yeah, live as U want CORN, U'r 100 or less years will not add up to a toot, once eternity has begun & U R in Eternal Fire for ETERNITY. while believers are LIVING IT UP for ETERNITY not just a few decades of life on earth as U did. U don't believe, but U never did any REAL RESEARCH in GODS WORD. PROPHECY ITSELF PROVES GODS WORD. But U'r too good to look at it as the facts may confuse U into believing. I'm happy U don't believe. Jesus blood could cover Ur Sin but U rejected it. Good
MPPFLIPP 7 months ago
@Cornbread395 Oh so there is nothing wrong with a person Butt(ass), it is clean and sanitary? SURE it is the best place to put your mouth and penis?. No 1 gets an abnormal disease from using it to fornicate?, RIGHT? No 1 gets cancers from letting men do that to U? YOU ARE SICK AND SELF DECEIVED. to think homosexual actions R normal & OK. These habits R learned by habit & not born that way & any so called christian who thinks it's OK, will most likely hear Jesus say "Depart, I never knew YOU"
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo
lol actually I like throwing in ad hominem arguments to fools on youtube even though it puts me at a debating disadvantage but it seems you lack the IQ to even have picked that up - so much for self-aggrandizing yourself as an agnostic.
Yes that is sad that you were 'forced' to read and I can relate to how negative experience in religion can lead to apostasy but hey, I chose to trust God in that He would lead me to the answers. 9 years later, there is none like God.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo
lol you're argument is invalid because you like the feeling of dogs dick up your ass.
Sorry, I didnt realise I was speaking in a foreign tongue; the language is called "common sense, critical thought & the pursuit for the truth"
Normally, when one concludes or dismisses on something they know nothing about; it would be 'logical' to say that that person is ignorant.
But you obviously dont follow this logic being someone that has never even read the Bible.
What a farce.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo
lol are you serious?
your standards on what is wrong & what is right is by your own perception.
history shows that the philosophy's of men are nothing more than flimsy perceptions.
Have you ever been extremely critical of your perceived reality?
have you ever been totally honest with your beliefs and feelings to get the core of it all?
I have, and the conclusion is that we cannot be sure of our reality without God being in the picture; the perfect righteous standard.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
"In humans homosexuality is not normal"
God disagrees with you.
"Is almost impossible for humans to give informed consent"
Humans disagree with you.
"I'm zoosexual"
Having given up on finding a consenting human being , you have turned to a troll, I see.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo Not saying the majority of humans is gay, but there's a high chance bisexuality would be even more widespread than it already is (FAR higher than 5%, I'd expect 20% or more of out bisexuals plus a high amount of closet cases) if there weren't social stigmata and, especially for men, sanctions connected to it.
crimsonsmirk 1 year ago
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo Doubting the 5% to be honest, especially if you consider the stigma attached to (male) homo- and bisexuality and the discounting of bisexuality in most studies. The Playboy conducted a surved in '82 which had 70% of men with bisexual experience and 20% of those with gay sex only label themselves as straight. You're right though, it's not normal in the sense that it's not considered the norm, just as women were considered abnormal for wearing trousers.
crimsonsmirk 1 year ago
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sirtone69:
Wrong, as mentioned by this:
"You must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy" (Deuteronomy 7:2).
"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!" (Luke 12:49).
"Kill every woman." (Numbers 31:17).
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27).
Your people slaughtered. I've got pure evidence, so what're you gonna do? ask God for forgiveness?
WolfytheWolf5667 1 year ago
Its COMPLETELY wrong of so-called "christians" to say (or taunt?) "God hates gay people" because that is completely and utterly wrong because it is absolutely unscriptural - there is NO Biblical justification for that claim.
You reckon that homosexuality is NORMAL?
Ok, a penis inside another mans ass is not normal.
A lesbian couple is equally abnormal.
Do you consider bestiality wrong/abnormal/ an abomination?
How do you justify homosexuality as normal whilst condemn the sheep shagger?
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
thestrugglewithin, I'll be happy to help educate you. Homosexuality is completely normal and natural. God has always created, loved, and kept it right here on His planet, in both the human and animal kingdoms, as part of His divine plan. The reason why heterosexuality and homosexuality are normal, but bestiality is not, is because adult human beings can give informed consent to what relationships they want to engage in, and what they want to do with their own bodies. Animals cannot. See?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2 like I said before, seeing same-sex interactions in the animal kingdom, and interpreting it to be homosexuality and thus a justification for homosexuality in humans, is a philsophical farce of an argument.
There is a video on YT of a chimp attempting to use a frogs mouth to masturbate. Apparently, this is more common than one would think, nevertheless, disturbing.
God only knows what the Chimp is thinking, but by your logic of observation, this should be normal too.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
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thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
to add to this rebuttal, dogs hump legs.
with the amount of crap on the internet, I'm sure someone has taking 'advantage' of this by deliberately positioning themselves so that the dog would literally have sex or anal sex with them.
Thats bestiality and the issue of consent is out the window because the dog is the one doing the deed; consent on both sides, thus your argument is invalid.
Heck you could even argue that you are doing the dog a favour & thus its is OK.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
Thestrugglewithin, pointing out the reality, that homosexuality exists in both the human and animal kingdom, easily refutes the absurd notion that it is "against nature". How can that which has always existed within nature BE "unnatural"? Certain heterosexuals have long sexually abused children, their pets, even inanimate objects, so by your logic, that would render heterosexuality unnatural and disturbing as well. Interesting the lengths anti-gays will go to, to justify their prejudice.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2 "against nature" I was meaning the nature of the human species. eg; it is against nature for a human to have sexual desire towards animals.
Using small aspects of animal life to justify the way you live is a ridiculous conclusion. When the male-female ratio of ducks exceed 1:4, it is common for females to drown because the excess of males end up raping them. Your logic suggests rape is there4 natural and normal. Comparing psychologically damaged people is ad hominem argument
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
TSW, of course, the very crux of your argument is crushed from the get-go, because the percentages of what exists in nature has no bearing on whether it's natural or not. If it's a part of nature, then it's natural. Within every group of humans and animals there are those with self-destructive behavior, but that does not mean that the entire community is flawed. God, in His infinite wisdom, has seen fit to create & keep homosexuality right here on His earth. His choices are good enough for me.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
This is not about the percentage of what exists in nature, its about your utterly flawed justification of what is and what is not natural.
On the one hand, you use homosexuality in animals as justification for your own sexual preference yet through the same logic you refuse rape to be normal in the same respect via the duck example.
Once again, give me scriptural proof of God creating homosexuality as a defined & righteous purpose, free of anecdotal evidence.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
TSW, I say this very carefully: just because logic and truth are beyond YOUR ken does not make them "flawed". God just knows more than you do, and all your irrational hypotheses and jumping to conclusions will not change that fact. It's His decision to keep homosexuality right here on His planet, in both the animal and human kingdoms, and all your foot stomping and vexation will never change His mind. You do have free will, and can choose to believe any nonsense you want, but why argue with God?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
You will do anything to keep from answering my questions.Thus,I will continue to expose your lies and cowardice.Besting you is quite easy & I want all to see you for the fool you are.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code
kwil46 1 year ago
Kelly, do you keep embarrassing yourself like this, and throwing yourself at my feet, throwing temper tantrums, because you no other way of dealing with adult, intelligent women who would never give you the time of day in real life? Are you...crushing on me? I hate to be blunt, but you would NEVER even stand a chance. Sorry.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
As for intelligent women, I find them quite engaging.Unlike a bitter,weak and quite ignorant woman you are revealed to be.
IF you were so superior,you would answer my questions. Failing to do so establishes your weakness.AGAIN.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code
kwil46 1 year ago
LOL@kwil46, you think I've revealed myself to be Jing? Your mind is completely gone, alas.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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@GodCreatesGays2
You will do anything to keep from answering my questions.
See, you are obsessed with being what you could never hope for in comparing your self to an intelligent,kind,mature,and lovely woman.All the things you dream of being.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code
kwil46 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
Am I arguing with God?
if so, please quote the scripture in which homosexuality is Gods will - and I quote GOD here: "it is abomination" - Lev 18:22
"an abomination" - Lev 20:13
Even though these passages in scripture are directly to Jews within the Mosaic law (never given to Gentiles), an abomination to God is always an abomination aka - not within the created and designed purpose of God aka 'normal'.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
TSW, He would not deign to argue with you personally, but you are contesting & fighting against the decisions He makes; how He sees fit to creates some of His children. You, & the fallible men who wrote, interpreted & mistranslated the Bible, try to insist that mortal men's opinions represent God's will more than His own creations and actions do. It's absurd, and a contention you can never win. Of course, you have the right to agree with these men, just as I have the right to agree with God.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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kwil46 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2 God did not put man on earth to be Homo's. God also put sticks, rocks, metal, chemicals & other elements for man to use. HE did not put these things on earth for man to use to kill each other. That is mans choice & not GODS intentions. Men choose to do what they want. GOD gave us HIS WORD, the Bible & if GOD IS GOD HE has the power to keep HIS WORD TRUE through out history so all men can know what GOD WANTS IN OUR ACTIONS. Because U disagree w/GOD does not make the Bible untrue
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP says, "God did not put man on earth to be Homo's".
True. The Lord created gays & put them on His earth as men.
"Men choose to do what they want."
But they don't choose what they ARE. Only God determines innate characteristics like skin color, sexual orientation, etc.
"Because U disagree w/GOD does not make the Bible untrue"
Exactly, the Bible is untrue because IT disagrees with & contradicts God's reality.
If you're still confused about anything, let me know. I enjoy educating.
GodCreatesGays2 8 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 God has told man what HE expects them to act like. If HE wanted men to be Gay, he would not have written Leviticus 18:22-27. Men choose to suck each other, they are not born that way. Somewhere in each homos life a 1st time event took place, either with a family member or friend or stranger & they liked it and choose to do it again. A few times it becomes a habit & something to look forward to. Most homos do this long before they R with a women so they never develop that habit
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP asserts, "God has told man what HE expects them to act like"
The problem is, many of the more hubris-driven prefer to listen to their own ilk, and the myths they, dreamed up in the Bible, instead of allowing God's actual will to penetrate their need for control and power.
"If HE wanted men to be Gay, he would not have written Leviticus 18:22-27"
Exactly. That's why we know that men, not God, fabricated the Bible. The actual Lord wants His gay children to be gay. Why argue with Him?
GodCreatesGays2 8 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 U keep missing the Point. The Bible is not a dream made book, it is a Book that predicts the future with 100% accuracy which no man could do.There is no way that over 40 different writers could write a book over 2500 years & not disagree with each other. this is because GOD used men to write what HE wanted said so that Man is without excuse to say they did not know what GOD wanted from them Because U ignore it only condemns U to Eternal loss & a very unpleasant eternity w/No End
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@MPPFLIPP it also says it can be corrected 2Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
zerukeMIVETU 8 months ago
GodCreatesG -There R over 25,000 ancient manuscripts in existence of the Bible and they do not disagree or counterdict each other. The Bible is quoted by countless thousands of Early Church fathers before 350 AD so that you can build the entire Bible from these quotes and none of them have changed or disagree with our Bible of today. In otherwords, the Bible has not changed or been made to say something other than what the originals say. A copy of Isaiah found to be 2800yrs old stayed the same
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 What is your belief in "GODS REALITY"? Where did U acquire this belief, what books or teachers taught this Reality of GOD to U? GODS WORD can not counterdict GOD, not can GOD counterdict HIS WORD.- GOD SAYS "HIS WORD IS TRUTH" & HE proves it by foretelling the future and we can see it happen which proves it's value to us that see. Where did you learn your understanding of who GOD is? Please explain yourself with logic, not your opinions.
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
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@MPPFLIPP demands, "What is your belief in "GODS REALITY"? Where did U acquire this belief"
From the Lord, Himself. Should you ever manage to have a personal bond and relationship with Him, you'd understand.
"GODS WORD can not counterdict GOD"
But sadly, the word of the confused and often uneducated men who wrote the Bible do.
GodCreatesGays2 8 months ago
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@GodCreatesGays2
You will do anything to keep from answering my questions.Thus,I will continue to expose your lies and cowardice.Besting you is quite easy & I want all to see you for the fool you are.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code
kwil46 1 year ago
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GodCreatesGayS GODS CHOICES R THESE = Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 24Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:29For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Leviticus 20:13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: =CONT
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 = 13; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them
SO DO YOU AGREE WITH GOD OR NOT? = Romans 1:21-27 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.25Who changed the truth of God into a lie,26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
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@GodCreatesGays2 = 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. SO YOU SAID WHAT GOD SAYS (HIS CHOICES) IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU. THIS IS GODS WORD & NOT MY INTERPRETATIONS OF IT. GOD MAKES IT CLEAR, IT IS AN ABOMINATION TO GOD & SHOULD BE TO U ALSO.
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
@thestrugglewithin I took care of dogs & cats for many years. The only time I saw male dogs/cats acting like homo's is ONLY when there was a female in heat and some of the males had mated with her and had her blood or pheromones on their penis which the other male dogs could smell and thought that they were mating with a female dog because they are drawn to the smell not the fact that it was another male dog.Tested this over the years if no females in heat R near them no homo actions happen
MPPFLIPP 8 months ago
The Bible doesnt say "its wrong" its says "Its an abomination"
The question is "abomination to who?"
Abomination to GOD because it is CONTRARY to the respective male-female roles in which God intended; just as ADULTER is ALSO listed as abomination to God. Twisting the truth to cover-up evil is also an abomination.
Looking at seemingly homosexual acts within animals is interpretation with a conflict of interest.
Homosexuality is created by the 'nurture over nature' concept; incredibly complex
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
Thestrugglewithin, sure, the fallible, confused men who wrote and misinterpreted the Bible may have concluded that it was wrong to be gay, but obviously, the mistake is theirs. God's vote is the only one that counts, and His continuing to create and keep His gay children on earth says it all: the Lord loves the gays. Why argue with Him?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
Give me scriptural evidence to support the idea that God creates people gay.
You cant.
Just as you cant give me any sort of evidence to support that God creates children with terminal disease, or disfigurement.
Men 'wrote & misinterpreted the Bible'? where is your evidence for this?
Are you aware of the vast differences within Bible versions?
Do you know the difference between KJV and NIV?
Massive.
thestrugglewithin 1 year ago
TSW, "scriptural evidence" is an oxymoron, since scripture doesn't prove anything, and has itself been proven invalid. The only proof needed is this: God has always created some people to be gay, just as He creates some folks to be black or left-handed, two other conditions that have at times been condemned by Bible bangers as being "abhorrent" to God. None of this conjecture, against gays, blacks, lefties, etc., has any scientific, medical, or rational proof to back it up. Why argue with God?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
forget the religious books, nature speaks itslef man and women equal kids, to sustain and maintain mankind. Period end of story gays are not natural
fijiandevil 1 year ago
Fijiandevil, your theory is easily decimated, however, by the facts: homosexuality has always existed in nature, as a fundamental component of it. Not every human being is meant to breed; that is not our sole function on the planet. The Lord has other plans as well. Why not just accept His will? Gays are part of His design.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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mdtt2 1 year ago
Mdtt2, do you mean the same island that killed your brain, LOL?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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mdtt2 1 year ago
@sirtone69
Right, which is why the more religious a sex offender is, the more horrendous their crimes are and the younger their victims. That is why the more religious a society is religious, the dumber and more violet it's citizens.And also a book that talks about how rape is good is not a great book.
k87jury 1 year ago 4
Waite up... lions kill the cobs then they take over the den, so are you saying it is natural for a man to kill children?
Some animals rape, murder and inbreed. The those acts OK?
sirtone69 1 year ago
@sirtone69
It amazes me how you are too stupid to keep track of the argument. First you guys say it is unnatural and therefore bad. Then when it is shown to be natural you state that being natural makes it bad. I state in my video that it is natural and it does not cause harm. The harm comes from homophobes like you. You are what is bad about this situation. You are bigot.
k87jury 1 year ago 2
@k87jury
Oh... I'm so bad because i don't agree with someones sexual perversion? People who want to practice that lurid behavior should just keep it behavior closed doors.
sirtone69 1 year ago
@sirtone69 if all sins are equal than stealing a pencil is equivalent to being gay. for all those children who just committed suicide for being teased hell than everyone whose ever stolen repeatedly or lied repeatedly is going to hell? its called repenting and god forgives all.half the Christians protesting are sinning in the process they might as well be gay too. i went to a gay parade for support and a pastor pushed me to the ground and stepped on me. its all a contradiction
paytonthechihuahua 1 year ago
As if the bible needs help to be proven wrong. It's pretty clear it's full of shit on homosexuality, physics, dating and morality. This ofcourse doesn't stop at other religions.
clipsryan 1 year ago
you want evidence of God,theres many ways,but ill tell you a testimony of Gods work to save a life
echelon2486 1 year ago
@echelon2486 Which god, why yours and how do you know. 3 questions you must answer with claims like that.
clipsryan 1 year ago
im not going to debate with you,the evidence is in Gods holy word in the gospel,the evidence is faith,if you dont have faith you wont believe,im not begging you to believe,im trying to help you
echelon2486 1 year ago
@echelon2486
Faith is belief without evidence, as in it is not evidence.
You claim there is evidence, but you fail to bring anything empirical. Which seems to indicate that you don't have evidence, and you know it. All you have is a feeling, and in your circle of friends that is good enough. But now that you have met someone who wants actual evidence, you are left there confused and just parroting the same statement over and over again.
k87jury 1 year ago 3
He squeezes his nose and wipes it on his shirt, this too happens in nature; "there's nothing wrong with that"
jameskoolkat 9 months ago
believe the gospel k87jury,pray to God the father he created you,if you turn your heart towards God he will turn to you,just be careful before you denounce the holy spirit there is NO forgiveness for that,im just trying to help you understand,but only God the father can help you,dont put your trust in man,man will always let you down,but God won't if you turn your heart to him and trust in him
echelon2486 1 year ago
@echelon2486
Well bring forth your EVIDENCE or go home. If we are going to speak about this like intelligent adults, you can't just beg me to believe you. You have to present me with the evidence.
k87jury 1 year ago
i do have proof of God,by the holy spirit and Gods words,which is something you dont have,which is the reason your so hard hearted,you get your answers from man but i get them from the creator,and "repent and believe in the spagetti monster"?so your mocking the only one who can save your soul?,be careful before you denounce the only one who can save you,i will pray for you
echelon2486 1 year ago
you dont know God or have God in your life k87jury you believe in the world and the things of the world,k87jury,be careful before you denounce the God that wants to save you,but if you keep rebelling he'll give you exactly what you want,and make it seem right to you,and yes i have evidence of God by the Holy Spirit,and by Gods word
echelon2486 1 year ago
@echelon2486
Yes, you are right. I do believe in reality.
Wait so now you are saying you DO have evidence. Well then there should be a test or some way to show that the Holy Spirit is real and not fictional. What test would you suggest. In what way can I objectively prove the existance of the Holy Spirit.
k87jury 1 year ago
this man is a liar,the word of God is not wrong,being gay is wrong it is not normal,it is an abomination,the reason they are gay is because of sin,man can never prove Gods word wrong by doing silly foolish little tests and studies which mean nothing,its all vain,mans thoughts are vain,nothing can prove Gods holy word wrong,he must answer to the Judge of judges one day
echelon2486 1 year ago
@echelon2486
So you admit that you have NO evidence for God, yet you expect me to believe. I am sorry, but I am not stupid enough to do that. You see, I need evidence to be convinced of something.
And also I'm honest. I actually care if the things I say are true. But you have faith, as in belief without evidence. So if you are wrong, you will keep saying it. That would be lying.
k87jury 1 year ago
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repent and believe the gospel
echelon2486 1 year ago
@echelon2486
Repent and believe in the spaghetti monster
k87jury 1 year ago
(1of2)You say you need evidence to believe in God. Evidence can come in many forms. Most athiests I encounter are not willing to accept this point. They will discount anything short of God ringing their doorbell and introducing Himself. Anything less will always be passed off as mere coincidence, a chance happening, if you will. You must understand folks, God already did everything He needed to do to come to us. He didn't even have to do anything , He could have just cast us all away!! So,
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
(2of2) now it is up to US to decide whether to accept or reject Him. He authored a living collection of books known as the Bible, they are as relevant today as when they were written, because God is the same today as He was WHEN they were written. The author of this book STILL LIVES!! You can know Him, but you must come to Him on His terms, not yours. Your worldly wisdom will not work with Him, He is wisdom, He is truth, you do it His way or NO WAY. Only a sincere, humble approach will work.
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
it;s just child like faith, you don't have to have evidence to prove it, like when you were a child and you asked your parents for a bike and they said ok, you didn't know even if they had the money to buy it. you just belive what they said, if you put the same effort in believing in the word of God as you do and trying to dis prove it you will find out the truth, Just test Him and He will show you
mdtt2 1 year ago
let the word of God be the truth, and every man be a liar!!
mdtt2 1 year ago
@mdtt2
Well sadly you can't just decide what you want to be true. You have to have evidence. Not just dogma.
k87jury 1 year ago
How does this mean the Bible is wrong? The Bible does clearly states that homosexuality is wrong. But if you also use ure common since you can clearly see God made everything with free will. Just because some people choose to be a homosexual does not mean the Bibles rules dissapear all the sudden. This does not prove the Bible to be wrong in any sense whatsoever. And how you said we dont have a christian government, most of our government is based of biblical princeples.
brutarious 1 year ago
@brutarious
LOL LOL LOL Wow.
1. We tested homosexuality and there is nothing wrong with it, Bible says it is wrong, therefore the Bible is wrong.
2. Our government is not based on biblical principles. At all. Seriously. Do you not know anything? Let us compare
Gov't: Ensured freedom Bible: Slave to God
Gov't: Freedom to practice your religion, even if you are Wicca. Bible: Burn the witch.
Gov't: Freedom of speech. Bible: Certain phrases are punishable by death and eternal torment.
So how?
k87jury 1 year ago
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humans were created to populate the planet and those gays are going againest god's wishes because he meant for humans to populate the planet. I dont hate homosexuals but those are my thoughts on gays,homos whatever want call them.
fliprap 1 year ago
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God created humans to procreate and to populate the planet also if god wanted 2 men or 2 woman to populate the earth then god would have given them those sex organs to do so.but created woman with the organs to give birth to more humankind and gave man organs to help the woman make babies.If god created 2 woman or 2 men and they didn't have the correct sex organs to populate the earth and then the humankind would die out.
fliprap 1 year ago
I think the fact that gay people continue to justify their lifestyle over and over is proof that there is something built into them that condemns them. I don't see straight people doing this, only gay folk. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against gay people, I abhor ANY violence or mistreatment of them in ANY way, but I read in the Bible that God planted in each one of us the ability to know right from wrong, but it can be suppressed. We can decide to turn away from truth and be deluded.
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1
Really. So all you homophobes saying it is wrong would have nothing to do with them defending it. I am straight and I am defending them because I am against bigotry.
You have turned away from the truth. You have decided to ignore reality and waste your life being a slave to a book that does not provide evidence, just threatens to torture you if you don't hate the same people the primitives that wrote the book hated.
k87jury 1 year ago
@k87jury I find it so interesting how someone can be labeled a hater and a bigot when they're only transgression is to proclaim the truth. You may not realize it, but there is such a thing as right and wrong. I know it's not a popular stance to take these days, but wrong is just as wrong today as it was in the time of Christ. Friend, I have remained with the truth, and I will continue to do so as long as the author and finisher of my faith is none other than the creator of the universe. (Cont)
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1
You have no truth. You have baseless assertion based on a book of fairy tales. And actually no, what was right and wrong in Christ's time isn't the same now. Slavery was just fine in Christ's time. In fact Jesus instructed slaves to be loyal to their Masters. But now the few of us who are no longer primitive know that slavery is wrong and to attempt to promote or justify it is evil.
k87jury 1 year ago
@k87jury As far as me wasting my life being a slave to a book, even if there was no eternal reward to look forward to, I would still consider it a success to live by the message of loving my neighbor as myself, not stealing, not lying, not commiting adultery, not speaking about others behind their backs, not being drunk, not murdering others, I mean, whats there not to like?? You will find no place where the Bible tells us to "hate", except for sin. We do hate sin. Hell is for those refuse life!
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1
I don't know about you but torturing people is pretty hateful. You serve a spiteful, jealous, genocidal prick.
k87jury 1 year ago
@k87jury Instead of hurling insults, which is a very juvenile approach, why not attempt to get a reasonable answer about why someone would want to put their trust in a vengeful God. The premise of your question is not that unreasonable, but when presented in the manner you have chosen, you will find few who will bother to reply, assuming you wish a reply. I am willing to have an intelligent dialog with you if you can be civil.
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1
"why someone would want to put their trust in a vengeful God."
I don't know, it seems like a stupid idea. Of course you are the one doing it and not me so you would be the best candidate to answer that question.
And I don't really see how those were insults. Your God states himself that he is jealous, he displaces actions that are spiteful, has ordered genocides to happen, and tortures people, which is very prickish.
k87jury 1 year ago
To man's view point it may be very different but if you read the bible it states it to be a sin and to this day there has been no person group that can prove different. Please don't lie when your not telling the truth.
turtle4aire 1 year ago
@turtle4aire
I didn't say that the Bible was ok with gays. I said it was wrong. The bible also says that a man lived in a whale, two girls took turns raping their drunk father, and a whole lot of other primitive hilarity.
And since you can't come up with any other reason besides "My imaginary friend doesn't like it", I am going to go with the evidence.
k87jury 1 year ago
You have your research to go by [ man's research ] and God had no like for homonsexual !
turtle4aire 1 year ago
Gwahahaha....theres gay animals....eeeehhehehehe.
mastersduhgree 1 year ago
1 Corinthians 6:18 In this verse The apostle Paul says to run from sexual sin. This is the only sin where we are told to run!!! Don't get caught up in this one because it is a sin against your own body. The acronym G.A.Y. stands for Good-As-You!!! The big lie of Satan is that homosexuality is a normal lifestyle!!! This is a snare of the devil and must be avoided at all cost!!!!
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1 Dumb ass explain dinosaurs if the bible is true. YOU CANT
MangleMii 1 year ago
@MangleMii What would any explanation to you regarding the dino"s do to help you with your unbelief? Friend, you don't want to believe in God. So, no explanation will ever suffice. You will simply reject any answer given. All I can say to you is "For the fool has said in his heart, there is no God". You just may have to learn the hard way. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. The surprise the unbeliever will get will be shocking, but your fate will be sealed, no hope,too bad!
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1
Well, if you could actual explain things, give evidence, etc. then you could be consider credibly. Since all you can do is try to scare us with a boogie man invented in the desert, we don't see any reason to take you seriously.
Maybe if you threaten people with leprechauns it would work out better.
k87jury 1 year ago
2 of 2) There are things in the Bible I could show you that man could not have known at the time of writing, things that are truly astounding. But if you are willing to play this one out with the cards you currently hold, I wish you all the best!!
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@k87jury( 1 of 2) What evidence would you like me to provide? I know that if I were involved in something that a book with the amazing factual credibility of the Bible stated would lead to me being in torment for eternity, I would want to know all I could know before making my final judgement about its validity.
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1 Job 40 15-17 behemoth
mdtt2 1 year ago
@MangleMii What do you wish me to explain??
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@MangleMii it in the book of Job 40:15-17, God talks to Job about a animal that eat grass and how God describe the animal it's a dinosaurs Behemoth "Google it"
mdtt2 1 year ago