Ok so I'm American (which I know automatically disqualifies me from knowing ANYTHING about hockey). But Canadians have got to get over this, "It's Canada's game" mentality. Hockey is everyone's game now. Baseball used to be THE game for the U.S. Not any more. Great teams and players come from all over the world now. Give credit where credit is due. CCCP had a great team and Russia still produces superstars. I hated them back then by the way but they were really good good.
In short: Dryden is saying that he could never predict what Kharlamov would do next. Ellis is saying that Kharlamov is among the best. Espo is saying how good the whole team was, lead by Kharlamov.
@thishereguitar valery kharlamov was not the worldest greatest player fuck me he could not compare to players like bobby orr bobby hull not even esposito
@RyRy9109 i wouldn't say outright that kharlamov is the world's greatest player--nobody really can prove who is the world's greatest player anyway. bobby orr is certainly a candidate for that spot...but forget hull and esposito, who both were definite stars but not arguable for that consideration. i do remember serge savard, who did play against kharlamov in the famous '72 series, say, in his estimation, that he would put kharlamov in the top three best players to have ever played the game.
@thishereguitar Orr was easily the greatest player of that era, so you're wrong right off the bat. If Team Canada had Orr (and Hull) the series wouldn't have been as close as it was.
@grisflyt the russians were just sneakier with their dirty shit. with sticks and actually trying to kick a guy. And they were way dirtier with the shit they pulled outside the game having their cops down there to try and intimidate everyone and bringing in a useless ref because they were scared of losing Game 8.
@grisflyt They were good because they had chemistry. Had the Canadians been playing with one another for as many years, they would have been superior. Russian leagues couldn't come close the the NHL at the time, and the same holds true to this day. The Russians just focused much more on internationals.
@ebtricks Ha ha said the clown, It wasn't only CSKA. Dynamo, Spartak and the Wings beat the teams from Canada. It's only beacuse they played hockey with hearth in the Soviet-Union. Hockey is the national sport of Canada. But in the times of Soviet-Union era, Canada had a strong team of course, no matter what. Anyhow they could never really handle the Soviet team without a little help of the referee..
@dunbunter I never said they didn't dominate, they did. I just feel that the formation of the leagues were very different, and that talent was siphoned in a completely different direction. Ask any play what they want, a gold medal, or a Cup, and they'll say the Cup.
The point of the NHL is to win the Cup, and while the Soviet league had a similar award, the gold is what they had their onus on. It was almost expected to be won by the Soviets, but now, things are different.
@ebtricks My reaction came on this from you "Had the Canadians been playing with one another for as many years, they would have been superior.". This isn't true. Playing too much together can create a routine that prevents a necessary development on the margin. It will be predictably, both for you and your opponents..Of course you can't compare different times.
@dunbunter Oh yeah, just like the Sedin's have grown so predictable throughout their playing careers. Chemistry is built in time. If this wasn't true, the Soviets wouldn't have won anything. You would know this if you had played hockey.
Take the Red Wings for example. They've created a "pass-it-down" type organization, and they stick to a strict puck managing system. For two decades they've dominated, much like the Soviets. The only thing that's predicable is winning.
@ebtricks So your opinion is that if Canadians have played together for so many years, they would have been superior. If so, there is no need to discuss. I do not agree with it, at all.
@InnocentWar1 I believe that if the Canadian's had a system and had decades to implement it, they would have been more competitive.
If you don't believe that they won because of experience and chemistry, what do you believe? Why aren't the Russians winning gold every four years now? Is it because of their government? The lack of the Cold-War?
No, it's because they were the most disciplined and well-conditioned team in the world, and their chemistry had been broken off.
Ok so I'm American (which I know automatically disqualifies me from knowing ANYTHING about hockey). But Canadians have got to get over this, "It's Canada's game" mentality. Hockey is everyone's game now. Baseball used to be THE game for the U.S. Not any more. Great teams and players come from all over the world now. Give credit where credit is due. CCCP had a great team and Russia still produces superstars. I hated them back then by the way but they were really good good.
voodooloungeable 4 weeks ago
why is the ignorant russian speaking over the great ken dryden?
pbrick6301 1 month ago
@pbrick6301 That is AWESOME dude, lol
tonysdzepp 1 month ago
Too bad the Russians never got to play against Billy Smith or Ron Hextall!
Eltamir 3 months ago
Ken Dryden is class. He was great and gracious player that gave his opponents respect they deserve.
He's an example to any young athlete.
feindhortmit 4 months ago
In short: Dryden is saying that he could never predict what Kharlamov would do next. Ellis is saying that Kharlamov is among the best. Espo is saying how good the whole team was, lead by Kharlamov.
wrangler4banger 7 months ago
Harlamov IS the World's Best Hockey Player ever seen!!!!!!!..=)))
dynamicool 9 months ago
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gcdcjccc 5 months ago
@dynamicool Gretzky and Mariowould turn him inside out. What you smoking?
skaha77 4 months ago
Translation: "Too bad that pig Bobby Clarke had to slash the world's greatest player, had to cheat to win. P-I-G PIG."
thishereguitar 1 year ago 2
@thishereguitar valery kharlamov was not the worldest greatest player fuck me he could not compare to players like bobby orr bobby hull not even esposito
RyRy9109 11 months ago
@RyRy9109 i wouldn't say outright that kharlamov is the world's greatest player--nobody really can prove who is the world's greatest player anyway. bobby orr is certainly a candidate for that spot...but forget hull and esposito, who both were definite stars but not arguable for that consideration. i do remember serge savard, who did play against kharlamov in the famous '72 series, say, in his estimation, that he would put kharlamov in the top three best players to have ever played the game.
vinnynumbnuts 10 months ago
@thishereguitar Orr was easily the greatest player of that era, so you're wrong right off the bat. If Team Canada had Orr (and Hull) the series wouldn't have been as close as it was.
Mineav 9 months ago
@Mineav The games weren't close. The Russians were better hockey players. The Canadians were dirtier hockey players.
grisflyt 4 months ago
@grisflyt the russians were just sneakier with their dirty shit. with sticks and actually trying to kick a guy. And they were way dirtier with the shit they pulled outside the game having their cops down there to try and intimidate everyone and bringing in a useless ref because they were scared of losing Game 8.
andrelebaron 4 months ago
@andrelebaron Yeah and the Russian cops were so amazed that the Canadians were'nt scared of them
skaha77 3 months ago
@grisflyt They were good because they had chemistry. Had the Canadians been playing with one another for as many years, they would have been superior. Russian leagues couldn't come close the the NHL at the time, and the same holds true to this day. The Russians just focused much more on internationals.
ebtricks 1 month ago
@ebtricks Ha ha said the clown, It wasn't only CSKA. Dynamo, Spartak and the Wings beat the teams from Canada. It's only beacuse they played hockey with hearth in the Soviet-Union. Hockey is the national sport of Canada. But in the times of Soviet-Union era, Canada had a strong team of course, no matter what. Anyhow they could never really handle the Soviet team without a little help of the referee..
dunbunter 1 month ago
@dunbunter I never said they didn't dominate, they did. I just feel that the formation of the leagues were very different, and that talent was siphoned in a completely different direction. Ask any play what they want, a gold medal, or a Cup, and they'll say the Cup.
The point of the NHL is to win the Cup, and while the Soviet league had a similar award, the gold is what they had their onus on. It was almost expected to be won by the Soviets, but now, things are different.
ebtricks 4 weeks ago
@ebtricks My reaction came on this from you "Had the Canadians been playing with one another for as many years, they would have been superior.". This isn't true. Playing too much together can create a routine that prevents a necessary development on the margin. It will be predictably, both for you and your opponents..Of course you can't compare different times.
dunbunter 4 weeks ago
@dunbunter Oh yeah, just like the Sedin's have grown so predictable throughout their playing careers. Chemistry is built in time. If this wasn't true, the Soviets wouldn't have won anything. You would know this if you had played hockey.
Take the Red Wings for example. They've created a "pass-it-down" type organization, and they stick to a strict puck managing system. For two decades they've dominated, much like the Soviets. The only thing that's predicable is winning.
ebtricks 4 weeks ago
@ebtricks So your opinion is that if Canadians have played together for so many years, they would have been superior. If so, there is no need to discuss. I do not agree with it, at all.
InnocentWar1 4 weeks ago
@InnocentWar1 I believe that if the Canadian's had a system and had decades to implement it, they would have been more competitive.
If you don't believe that they won because of experience and chemistry, what do you believe? Why aren't the Russians winning gold every four years now? Is it because of their government? The lack of the Cold-War?
No, it's because they were the most disciplined and well-conditioned team in the world, and their chemistry had been broken off.
ebtricks 4 weeks ago
does this exist in english? or can someone translate?
almostthefirst 1 year ago
There will never be another Kharlamov.
MadcapLaugh3 1 year ago 2
Kharlamov was the man!
MrCool63 1 year ago
извини ты не знаешь где скачать документалку про хоккей?
chingizkz 2 years ago