Such comments should not be condoned, but the public villification of those that make them, especially when judged irrespective of the individual's actual actions, is counter productive and distracts from more deep-rooted issues
@ilovedraconian :D Ha ha, I watched that movie the other day with my mate who's white, but has big dark brown eyes. At the scene about Sicilians and brown eyes and all I was looking over at him with a suppressed smirk on my face....until a pillow flew! Ha ha ha ha ha ha
I have anecdotal evidence that the new leader of Harrow Council,Bill Stephenson, is the ringleader of a paedophile gang and that he may be indirectly connected to the Madeleine McCann disappearance.I cannot go to the Police because I do not have solid proof,but I have strong circumstancial evidence that this man has raped young girls before (in 1997 and possibly also in 2003)and that he is a predatory paedophile.If any police officer is reading this message, please carry out an investigation.
"Hey it's alright hip-hop, they use it a lot, don't they. MMMMMM"
He's an old timer, an old school working class white who grew up in a totally different world to us now. Any "racism" he has has been amassed over a life time, including when tension between blacks and whites would have been at boiling point in the 70s and 80s. He would have used the N word 100s of times WITHOUT MALICE before it became politically incorrect. But its not like he is preaching white supremacy or anything.
you cant hide the soul and what it stands for...theres no way back for ron and its a shame cos hes a really nice guy....he brought good days back to coventry city as manager in the mid 90s...take care mate
millions of white women out-side ireland in countries like england france brazil spain holland and america give birth to millions of half-caste and quarter-caste children and out-breed redneck men because in the eyes of the white woman the white man is pure evil and a failure to normal society. hopefully irish women will also wake up from there slumber and join there many european sisters out-side ireland and also like them start breeding half-caste and quater-caste kids
millions of white women out-side ireland in countries like england france brazil spain holland and america give birth to millions of half-caste and quarter-caste children and out-breed redneck men because in the eyes of the white woman the white man is pure evil and a failure to normal society. hopefully irish women will also wake up from there slumber and join there many european sisters out-side ireland and also like them start breeding half-caste and quater-caste kids.
@dimgwalltameiben , yes. Although there can be a scale of fat...maybe your against someone who's really really fat but not someone who's just a bit overweight...the word in itself doesn't denote that however.
You are missing the point he was the first manager to pick black players to play at the top level. What he said was ment to be off air and just a poor choice of words. Judge the man on what he did over the course of his carear not on one small slip.
@ColinGasit you don't slip what you don't think. doesn't matter if it was or wasnt on air one shoulnt be calling anyone by a racist tag. signing black player is irrelevant. one can be racist against a race but still marry from that particular race. wise up Colin
Logic, his retarded LOGIC, sorry if you found that sentence & the point i was making overwhelmingly confusing....perhaps you should stick to X factor discussions and the like, that's probably more on your sort of level u overgrown, jeremy kyle dropout...
He called Marcel Desailly a "fucking lazy thick n****r", so Ron being a "noted racist" is simply a fact....
Why is it that whenever there's a clear example of a white guy being racist to a black guy, all the apologists can't crawl our from under their rocks quick enough? even when it's as blatant as Ron's remarks were....
@supahdupahguy81 Listen in a heated moment if you call somebody a n****r, it does not make you a noted racist, thats such a narrow minded thing to say.
Here we go about the difference between racism in white and black people, just absolute rubbish. I dont even want to get into that. But please dont talk rubbish out of a heated comment it does not make you a racist.
Atkinson was in a TV studio that had finished airing, bantering jovially among his colleagues, & waited till the mic was off (or so he thought) before making his remark....clearly there was some consideration taken before he opened his mouth, so how you classify that scenario as a "heated moment" is frankly beyond me....
"i dont want to see any other comments, that doesn't interest me, i aimed it at you by saying what you said. "
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Whatever, as long as you don't try to make out like i'm the one having a massive problem with this & you're not....after all, you're the one trying to defend blatantly offensive behavior...
@supahdupahguy81 funny how youve changed things to sound worse. actually, the game had finished, chelsea had just lost in europe, he thought hes mic was off, when he went off on a rant about a lot of players, Desailly got a comment, So yes it was heat of the moment. I think its funny you would think he took consideration into hes comments lol, funny, by sounds of the comment before, perhaps because you have some issues, about blacks and whites
TBH i didn't change things to make it sound worse, just i haven't heard the audio for years so i remembered a couple of things wrong......still, he wasn't ranting on all the players & was bantering with his colleagues.....of couse he's taken consideration into what he said, b'coz obv he wouldn't have said that with camera's pointed at him so he's aware of what he's saying...
"perhaps because you have some issues, about blacks and whites"
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Nice ad-hominem attempt there. We all have issues mate, you obviously have issues about a spade being called a spade (for want of a better phrase)...
Incidentally this isn't the only time "Big Ron" has had a "heated moment".
Ron: "The Chinese people have the best contraception in the world - but I can't understand why there's so many of them because their women are so ugly."
@supahdupahguy81 No he went off on a rant about people as he said you should hear what he said about Veron, Chelsea had a real bad game he just said somethings, not at all, when i drive to work, if someone pulls out on me i swear at them i will call them something, i dont mean them things, i certainly wouldn't say them if i was going live to people, does that mean their considered, come on just accept it, he was a manger with a lot of black players
The situation you descibe is actually a heated moment, ron's just isn't that heated whatever way you look at it...in fact he probably said more as a joke than out of anger, why would he be angry they lost anyway? all he's doing is watching a team as an impartial observer who he has no connection to....
As i pointed out to someone else, Aragones is manager of alot of black players, so is Mihajlovic, just b'coz you pick black ppl in your job doesn't mean you can't be racist..
race dynamics in the uk are fascinating. On the one hand, you aren't nearly as hung up on race as americans. but at the same time, a noted racist is easily accepted by everyone.
Ron Atkinson will no doubt have grown up around racist attitudes and will have some mixed values, this was obvious when he talked about marcel desailly the way he did. BUT he gave opportunities to black players like virtually no one else at the time. He was NOT prejudice to black footballers but he was ignorant in some ways, a lot of hypocrites jumped on him.
@mikapromotesobesity Its not racist because they are black, only dumb white folk like us can be racist *Beats his cousin, eats a mayonaise sandwich, marries his sister, and shoots some Mexicans*
@WhiteTiger225 You are not white, you are a black supremist racist that is trying to excuse racism towards white people. You don't seem to be able to put words together with any degree of literacy. The people who commit the most rape, robbery and murder in nearly every country on earth are the black people. This is a documented fact* (a fact is something that has been proven to be true). I have proved that you are an illiterate black racist. I will report your hate speech to youtube.
@Serial520 *sigh*... yet another racist black person that is trying to justify racism towards white people, by giving a failed non-comparative analogy as an excuse for racism towards white people. Judging by your dim witted comment, I presume it is referring to the african slave trade. The african slave trade was created by black rulers and arab muslims over 1,400 years before the event that your dim-witted comment is referring to. You are a racist.
@mikapromotesobesity What you need to understand is that America is FAR more racially divided than the UK. It is more accepted over there. If a black comedian would have a show like that, he would get a huge backfire.
What pisses me off is the way that being on a chat show seems to entitle people to be so disrespectful and hurtful about people - like Wayne Rooney and his wife. Are you talking about the host's use of the word 'they' - before he changes to talk about McGrath?
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He's a racist cunt and that's that! And to all you other racist cunts out there... Go fuck yourselves already! Hitler is dead and the rest of us have moved on. (And don't waste your time replying to this 'cos I don't give a fuck and thus, won't be back to read you pointless comments!)
1) "Full squad of black players"? you're more than slightly exaggerating.....from that WBA team in the 80's there was Batson, Regis & Cunningham....that's hardly a full squad.
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2) There were jews in the 3rd reich....Does that make them not racist?.....Slave owners had servant's who lived in the house with them....does that make them not racist?
Nice cut 'n pasting skills you have there...if only you had consulted wikipedia BEFORE you made your COMPLETELY FALSE STATEMENT, you fucking buffoon...
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Seeing as you're a bit slow & completely missing the point, here's another couple of "not racists" for you to illustrate it further...
Luis "Tell that black shit Henry you're better than him" Aragones, made Marcos Senna (a black) his lynchpin in midfield during Spain's 2008 euro campaign, & claims to have "black friends"...
Ex Lazio defender & ultra right-wing Serbian nationalist Sinisa "Viera is a black shit" Mihajlovic....currently has 4 Africans & a Bosnian in his Fiorentina squad..
Do you actually understand the point im trying to make to you, you utter, utter fuckwit?...
I'm not saying Atkinson is as bad as those two, but your retarded "he's not racist b'coz he picked a couple of black people once" logic needs dismantling....
@Predinator2k7 don't be naiive, just becoz u sign black players doesn't necessarily make you non-racial. you only sign players becoz they will make u win football matches. its jst happens that a good proportion of black players are excellent footballers and if one wants to win he 'might' have to recruit the best; regardless of race or background. he might want the services of a black player but stil think he is a superior being than the player. Cant believe pple thumbing up a ridiculous comment
@sdwone Good! Then you won't reply to me saying that you're a fucking knob-head. But I will post it anyway for others to read. Hello to you others! He's a fucking knob-head isn't he? But you won't see this of course... and you won't reply. ^^
And all these (esp white) people who go on about racism and poor blacks are out to prove what? This is the least racist country in Europe and Ron Atiknson has probably done more than most for black people.
Would he have the guts to walk up to a great man like Desailly and call him what he did to his face!!!! No racists are cowards, alleged racist he called him a n*****!!!!!!!!, fucking racist itv and bbc when Drogba has the ball they go Drog-ba like hes a sheep, people who want agree with me please give me a like :D
@NickGPWin1989 and all these (esp white) people who go on about racism and poor blacks are out to prove what? This is the least racist country in Europe and Ron Atiknson has probably done more than most for black people.
@NickGPWin1989 NickGPWin1989 and all these (esp white) people who go on about racism and poor blacks are out to prove what? This is the least racist country in Europe and Ron Atiknson has probably done more than most for black people.
What about that Forsyth light, fuck! Who called his dance partner a " Paki " , totally and absolutey forgotten about by the media , fuck the press and that dance cunt who made up his name . I'm sure he's called Barry Bloggs or something .
@standupEFC . And your point is ? He still used a racial slur against someone , the only difference being there's plenty of football pundits to replace Ron , where as with that come dancing arse hole , he is being groomed to replace Bruce Forsyth and has no doubt got many tv programmes in the pipeline( god knows why ?). So the beeb swept it under the carpet as best they could . So she wasn't Pakistani , does that mean it's okay to call Peter Andre a Paki ?
He had to go, no sensible person can say what he said about Marcel and possibly think it acceptable, he insulted 1 billion people already struggling to gain their humanity from a terrible past that used such words to dehumanise and justify slavery to its people. Sorry he had to go, what an embarrassment.
I can't believe he used 'we'. Fancy treating the whole English population as horsey haters.. I guess its ok to do that but not the same with black people eh?
How pathetic. Of all the bad things going on in England ie corruption, violence, peado's, kids watching porn movies, muslim women being stoned for flirting with men, the "F" word being used on TV before the 9.00 pm watershed ect ect and he gets sacked then trashed for saying the word nig nog ! So its now ok for TV to allow the recording of football fans chanting the F word on football matches, even though the swearing could easily be edited out, but say nig nog and your in deep trouble.
"Of all the bad things going on in England: ... muslim women being stoned for flirting"
Must have missed that one. Oh that's right, you made it up! Typical BNP fascist disseminating bullshit!
You must be a subintelligent for defending his use of rascist terminology ahead of denying that he was a rascist at all with the support he gave black players in his managerial career. But in fact you like the fact that he was racially abusive! It's the one sentiment you love about the BNP.
@mowglee09 At least I have enough intelligence to string a few words together without it being peppered with punctuation errors. So you say Muslim women are not stoned for flirting with other men !!! If it was not so terrible what happens to these women your comment would be laughable. Where do you live Lundy Island ?
I think you'll find you initially claimed muslim women were being stoned in England, which is complete bullshit, something you made up to hold yourself aloof to Muslims and immigrants which in your mind are the same thing. So your feigned dismay and empathy has no currency with me.
Shame your spelling isn't up to the same 'high' standard. You are typical of current BNP propoganda, spouting your sensationalsitic and extreme crap in a cloak of righteousness. Fortunately the vast majority of White indiginous Brits don't agree with you, and therefore you nad your beloved BNP will alwys be an extreme and marginal part. BTW it's 'lose' not 'loose' and the abbreviation of etcetera is etc. Those in glass houses ho hum....
RON IS A FUCKING RACIST HE CALLED MARCEL DESSAI-DONT MIND THE incorrect spelling of his last name called him A LAZY NIGGER IF THATS NOT RACIST WHAT THE HELL IS and he neva wanted 2 EXPLAIN 2 TESSA SANDERSON ON WIFE SWAP WHY HE SAID THAT I WONDER WHY
Fuck off is he. He made a joke. A JOKE. Why can you get a way with calling white people names? Why can you have your own MOBO awards but if we had MOWO awards it would be called racist? Typical blacks trying to make something out of nothing. Go back to your own country if you don't like it.
Ron Atkinson noted racist ,what a load of bollocks ,made a racial slur but that does not mean he is racist.
Racism actually means a belief that your race is superior to others,making a racial slur to someone although wrong does not mean that person is racist
@kady7869 whatever. give me a jew over a muslim any day. at least the jews dont go around blowing innocent people up. Im quite happy for muslims to blow themselves up, as long as no 'normal' people are harmed
n a brits a brit neway. most welsh r brits. all rangers fans r brits, iz a pretty simple word. a brit is sum1 alot irish wana drown in their own blood.
No. you said whats the difference between the irish and the english. Then you put 50 paddies, and 50 (BRITS) when you said difference between the irish and the english. So fuck you.
In Ireland the brits are the english. To be fair your talking out your hole. No prod would ever allow you to call them a paddy even though they have trouble acepting the fact they are indeed Irish and the Irish really has never ever wanted anything from the brits.
Oh apart from the warren point ambush when a stack of them died that was class.
We want them to die.
Now have a wee cry over the fact lady di's merc reached 80 before it died and she couldn't manage 40.
@VoteBNP. I totally agree. Britain should be for the British only. ALL FOREIGN IMMIGRANTS should go back to where they came from. All those of Saxon descent should go back to Saxony in Germany, the Normans go back to Normandy in France and so on. Since the Roman invasion our culture and identity has been badly eroded and we need to reclaim it.
@VoteBNP. No, you are too soft. Briton for the Britons. All the Saxons and Normans and Romans have brought their own culture and ruined this island for the original islanders. Back to mainland Europe with the lot of their descendants and let us return to our true island roots.
Just to point out how silly such a statement is when you factor in TIME (ok maybe a lot of it ) - that may be the state of it now but in time Britain won't even be in Europe and I'm not talking about the EU I am talking about the continent itself ! Life/existence is not a photograph its a movie...it changes. The Britain you seek is in the past and it aint coming back GET OVER IT. Adapt or die.
Britain won't be in Europe in a zillion years time, great. I really don't care, we are talking about now, not then. We are crossing the bridge now, not next week.
Naturally all people across the world would want to preserve their culture and way of life, when Black people do it, you call it pride. When Asian people do it, you call it passion. When White people do it, you call it 'racist'.
You're the problem with this country. Maybe you need abit of cock to wake you up?
Within one country like Britain there are millions of different cultures, many of which are opposed to each other, so unless you are talking about Coronation Street, Fish and Chips, the X Factor, shopping, taking drugs, getting stressed and getting pissed in Ibiza - what culture are you wanting to preserve? Who the fuck are you and where do you get off judging people on their perceived race - what's so fucking great about you?
The typical anti-British, anti-White, brainwashed fuckwit liberal comeback. If you cant have a fair discussion about world cultures where the British blatantly have a valid excuse for this invasion... Deny they have a culture, or even mock it with sarcasm.
@VoteBNP what parts of "white culture" are you not being able to represent? Black pride has a lot to do with the rise from slaves to free people hence why black history month focuses on civil rights leaders its not just..."im black woooo!". Theres certain stupidity in the country and granted a racial attack on a white person by a person of colour will rarely be citied as a racially motivated attack which is wrong but I don't see how your culture is being stolen? If thats the right word to use.
"what parts of "white culture" are you not being able to represent?"
I wonder, would you put Black culture in inverted commas? That would be 'racist' right? You would be mocking Black culture and pretending it doesn't exist.
Well White pride has alot to do with being accepted in a society where because you are White you are deemed 'racist' for breathing patriotically. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you racist, anti-White, self loathing, cunt.
@VoteBNP Don't play the world weary cynic, what culture do you want to preserve? I'm from a working class family, I'm proud of that, what does being white tell you about my culture? I eat, drink and shit sometimes watch football, Lady Gaga leaves me cold but I aint SELF loathing or anti white - you're the cunt with the obsession about skin colour. So what culture are you wanting to preserve? There's many more than one. Tea on the lawn or beer and sandwiches? How should we live oh profound one?
Obession about skin colour? What the fuck are you on? If a race makes a culture, then why the fuck would you want Britain to be a White minority. Britain is a White European country, deal with it. If you change the people of Britain, you will change the culture. Have you seen our cities or is it just me? Wait... You live in the country right and go to Uni?
And stop being racist, you are insinuating British culture does not exist. Idiot!
@VoteBNP I lived in London for many years and have worked most my life. I want to know what this culture is that you keep talking about. I'm not insinuating that British Culture doesn't exist - just that it means different things for different people and race doesn't equate to culture. British culture hasn't ever stopped evolving and changing, neither has humanity - the world will go on changing and the best we can do is learn how to be good human beings regardless. That excludes racism.
Yes, race DOES equate to culture. If the world was full of Japanese people, 100%, then the world would have Japanese culture, simple as that. The very fact that we have a diversity of many different cultures is down to the fact of the difference in race. Race make a culture, a culture does not make a race. And if you do not know what British culture is, look at our history for the past 1000 years up until WW2. British culture is many things, where shall I start?
@VoteBNP What about the Finns. Seeing as language is part of culture too then consider the fact that the Finns who genetically are amongst the most isolated groups of Europeans (ie they have had little mixing) so are therefore "pure" speak a language that isn't even Indo-European like English, French or Swedish or most European languages for example. The Finns are an Indo-European people who speak a non "European or aryan" language. Therefore there is proof that culture and race are blurred.
Sweden which speaks an Indo European language (Swedish) has a closer relative in Hindi or Persian than it does in Finnish or Estonian, languages spoken by it's neighbours who are physically and culturally not very different to Swedes. Europe is a made up continent anyway the correct term is Eurasia as geographically they are the same entity. The point I'm trying to make is that cultures are a melting pot of outside influences. Why else to Finns speak a language originating in north asia?
It excludes 'racism'. Please, what has wanting to preserve ones culture spanning back thousands of years (To be transformed in 40) got to do with 'racism'? It has nothing to do with hating anyone, I think its impossible to hate someone for their colour. My views come out of love for my people, culture, and heritage: A natural attribute in any normal human being, except brainwashed Marxists like yourself....obviously.
@VoteBNP Your'e just not listening - YOUR culture may be very different from mine, it's absolutely certain that culture in these Islands thousands of years ago would be unrecognisable to you. Even a hundred years ago things were very different. This being the case - what can you mean by 'white culture'? The term has no real meaning. What you may think of as being essentially British I may not. Societies continually evolve, things can change in a lifetime. It's not always easy. CONT
@trifelgeputinage It's easy to understand that people are afraid of change and of the 'other' - I like Britain, but then I was born here. It used to be a very different place - I am part of a lucky generation that grew up in a time of peace and prosperity. But we live in a big world modern world now - things have changed irrevocably and we can't turn back the clock. We should try to be good human beings regardless of our religion or race. Ideology and emotion can lead to some horrific results.
Said something racist? Yes.
Actually RACIST? Not necessarily.
Such comments should not be condoned, but the public villification of those that make them, especially when judged irrespective of the individual's actual actions, is counter productive and distracts from more deep-rooted issues
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marinellka27 4 months ago 4
infact...can anyone tell me why anyone has brown eyes?
ajpw1981 6 months ago
can anyone tell me why Sicilians have brown eyes?
ajpw1981 6 months ago
@ajpw1981 XD, watch the Denis Hopper scene of 'True Romance' , explains all
ilovedraconian 6 months ago
@ilovedraconian :D Ha ha, I watched that movie the other day with my mate who's white, but has big dark brown eyes. At the scene about Sicilians and brown eyes and all I was looking over at him with a suppressed smirk on my face....until a pillow flew! Ha ha ha ha ha ha
ajpw1981 6 months ago
go to africa or asia and you'll find more racism than you can imagine.
antoireland09 6 months ago
oh, RON! Atkinson. Lol I thought my world had fallen apart
Griesmayer 7 months ago
I have anecdotal evidence that the new leader of Harrow Council,Bill Stephenson, is the ringleader of a paedophile gang and that he may be indirectly connected to the Madeleine McCann disappearance.I cannot go to the Police because I do not have solid proof,but I have strong circumstancial evidence that this man has raped young girls before (in 1997 and possibly also in 2003)and that he is a predatory paedophile.If any police officer is reading this message, please carry out an investigation.
bewareofpaedophiles 7 months ago
@bewareofpaedophiles wtf?
aforshaw 5 months ago
He looks like a really old version of Robin Williams
Cirofost 7 months ago
oh get a life. Racist is such a senseless word these days.
Olekander 8 months ago
Cheek of that woman saying that Coleen Rooney is ugly..when's the last time she's looked in a mirror
ttmad96 8 months ago
@ttmad96 U leave mrs doyle alone yea stupid cow
TeamFedorIreland 8 months ago
@TeamFedorIreland guman
ttmad96 7 months ago
you dont see many black managers ? cos they havnt a clue , big ron was right
40stuartwilson 8 months ago
"Hey it's alright hip-hop, they use it a lot, don't they. MMMMMM"
He's an old timer, an old school working class white who grew up in a totally different world to us now. Any "racism" he has has been amassed over a life time, including when tension between blacks and whites would have been at boiling point in the 70s and 80s. He would have used the N word 100s of times WITHOUT MALICE before it became politically incorrect. But its not like he is preaching white supremacy or anything.
adz124ps 9 months ago
@adz124ps Whats political correctnees?
TheShepster80 9 months ago
It was just a slightly offhand comment that inferred that a black player was lazy. Shame really, he was a great footballing character.
fishslappingdance 9 months ago
you cant hide the soul and what it stands for...theres no way back for ron and its a shame cos hes a really nice guy....he brought good days back to coventry city as manager in the mid 90s...take care mate
t1000eg 10 months ago
um, no they arent, you fucking idiot
bluenotejazz 10 months ago
"noted racist" lol
LoLzZ85 11 months ago
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millions of white women out-side ireland in countries like england france brazil spain holland and america give birth to millions of half-caste and quarter-caste children and out-breed redneck men because in the eyes of the white woman the white man is pure evil and a failure to normal society. hopefully irish women will also wake up from there slumber and join there many european sisters out-side ireland and also like them start breeding half-caste and quater-caste kids
OBAMAisHalfCaste 11 months ago
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millions of white women out-side ireland in countries like england france brazil spain holland and america give birth to millions of half-caste and quarter-caste children and out-breed redneck men because in the eyes of the white woman the white man is pure evil and a failure to normal society. hopefully irish women will also wake up from there slumber and join there many european sisters out-side ireland and also like them start breeding half-caste and quater-caste kids.
OBAMAisHalfCaste 11 months ago
blacks can say anything about whites tho and nothing said
daveyk76 11 months ago
U call someone a nigger and you're against all blacks, does that mean you call someone fatty and you're against all fat people ?
dimgwalltameiben 11 months ago
@dimgwalltameiben , yes. Although there can be a scale of fat...maybe your against someone who's really really fat but not someone who's just a bit overweight...the word in itself doesn't denote that however.
craggythebeast 10 months ago
Anyone else think Ron has a large, thick-set penis?
zzzgdap 11 months ago
I think he was the first manager to introduce the first black player to non league football. Something like that :)
irishcrusader99 11 months ago
Arrogant bloke. I can believe he's a bigotted racist.
squeezefan1972 1 year ago
how is he racist. ron would do anything to promote football all over the world, especially in africa!
weatherallc05 1 year ago
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i dont give a fuck about black people
drewwhonumba22 1 year ago
You are missing the point he was the first manager to pick black players to play at the top level. What he said was ment to be off air and just a poor choice of words. Judge the man on what he did over the course of his carear not on one small slip.
ColinGasit 1 year ago
@ColinGasit you don't slip what you don't think. doesn't matter if it was or wasnt on air one shoulnt be calling anyone by a racist tag. signing black player is irrelevant. one can be racist against a race but still marry from that particular race. wise up Colin
logicsemmanuel 1 year ago 11
@logicsemmanuel Shut the fuck up Nigger.........And by the way,that was not a slip up...
gazaking765 6 months ago
@lukevertiis
Logic, his retarded LOGIC, sorry if you found that sentence & the point i was making overwhelmingly confusing....perhaps you should stick to X factor discussions and the like, that's probably more on your sort of level u overgrown, jeremy kyle dropout...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
Lol funny though, so narrow minded to call him 'noted racists' idiot
david1bong 1 year ago
@david1bong
He called Marcel Desailly a "fucking lazy thick n****r", so Ron being a "noted racist" is simply a fact....
Why is it that whenever there's a clear example of a white guy being racist to a black guy, all the apologists can't crawl our from under their rocks quick enough? even when it's as blatant as Ron's remarks were....
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
@supahdupahguy81 Listen in a heated moment if you call somebody a n****r, it does not make you a noted racist, thats such a narrow minded thing to say.
Here we go about the difference between racism in white and black people, just absolute rubbish. I dont even want to get into that. But please dont talk rubbish out of a heated comment it does not make you a racist.
david1bong 1 year ago
@david1bong
Heated moment? really?
Atkinson was in a TV studio that had finished airing, bantering jovially among his colleagues, & waited till the mic was off (or so he thought) before making his remark....clearly there was some consideration taken before he opened his mouth, so how you classify that scenario as a "heated moment" is frankly beyond me....
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
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"Here we go about the difference between racism in white and black people, just absolute rubbish. "
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Do yourself a favor & click 'view all comments' then scroll down the page.....
If you can't see what im saying then well that's your business i guess...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
@supahdupahguy81 i dont want to see any other comments, that doesn't interest me, i aimed it at you by saying what you said.
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"i dont want to see any other comments, that doesn't interest me, i aimed it at you by saying what you said. "
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Whatever, as long as you don't try to make out like i'm the one having a massive problem with this & you're not....after all, you're the one trying to defend blatantly offensive behavior...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
@supahdupahguy81 funny how youve changed things to sound worse. actually, the game had finished, chelsea had just lost in europe, he thought hes mic was off, when he went off on a rant about a lot of players, Desailly got a comment, So yes it was heat of the moment. I think its funny you would think he took consideration into hes comments lol, funny, by sounds of the comment before, perhaps because you have some issues, about blacks and whites
david1bong 1 year ago
@david1bong
TBH i didn't change things to make it sound worse, just i haven't heard the audio for years so i remembered a couple of things wrong......still, he wasn't ranting on all the players & was bantering with his colleagues.....of couse he's taken consideration into what he said, b'coz obv he wouldn't have said that with camera's pointed at him so he's aware of what he's saying...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
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"perhaps because you have some issues, about blacks and whites"
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Nice ad-hominem attempt there. We all have issues mate, you obviously have issues about a spade being called a spade (for want of a better phrase)...
Incidentally this isn't the only time "Big Ron" has had a "heated moment".
Ron: "The Chinese people have the best contraception in the world - but I can't understand why there's so many of them because their women are so ugly."
Once, you can be let-off, twice? nah...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
@supahdupahguy81 No he went off on a rant about people as he said you should hear what he said about Veron, Chelsea had a real bad game he just said somethings, not at all, when i drive to work, if someone pulls out on me i swear at them i will call them something, i dont mean them things, i certainly wouldn't say them if i was going live to people, does that mean their considered, come on just accept it, he was a manger with a lot of black players
david1bong 1 year ago
@david1bong
The situation you descibe is actually a heated moment, ron's just isn't that heated whatever way you look at it...in fact he probably said more as a joke than out of anger, why would he be angry they lost anyway? all he's doing is watching a team as an impartial observer who he has no connection to....
As i pointed out to someone else, Aragones is manager of alot of black players, so is Mihajlovic, just b'coz you pick black ppl in your job doesn't mean you can't be racist..
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
race dynamics in the uk are fascinating. On the one hand, you aren't nearly as hung up on race as americans. but at the same time, a noted racist is easily accepted by everyone.
chefawkes 1 year ago
Ron Atkinson will no doubt have grown up around racist attitudes and will have some mixed values, this was obvious when he talked about marcel desailly the way he did. BUT he gave opportunities to black players like virtually no one else at the time. He was NOT prejudice to black footballers but he was ignorant in some ways, a lot of hypocrites jumped on him.
mrsenior42 1 year ago
i kinda feel sorry for him
oggy321 1 year ago
rooney will never ever be near the best player in the world! this coming from a united fan
seankinsellasean 1 year ago 4
@seankinsellasean
he was in top 3 of best last year and at one point he as the best last year and then he got injured and went on a drought
kumar01234 1 year ago
Most african american comedians are racist, no one seems to mind.
mikapromotesobesity 1 year ago 31
@mikapromotesobesity two words "white guilt"
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IAMFILKRIS 1 year ago
@mikapromotesobesity Its not racist because they are black, only dumb white folk like us can be racist *Beats his cousin, eats a mayonaise sandwich, marries his sister, and shoots some Mexicans*
WhiteTiger225 1 year ago
@WhiteTiger225 You are not white, you are a black supremist racist that is trying to excuse racism towards white people. You don't seem to be able to put words together with any degree of literacy. The people who commit the most rape, robbery and murder in nearly every country on earth are the black people. This is a documented fact* (a fact is something that has been proven to be true). I have proved that you are an illiterate black racist. I will report your hate speech to youtube.
mikapromotesobesity 1 year ago
@mikapromotesobesity
Revisionist history much? Amusing.
sweetiepie01 1 year ago
@mikapromotesobesity Those that have oppressed cannot claim the oppressed to oppress
Serial520 1 year ago
@Serial520 *sigh*... yet another racist black person that is trying to justify racism towards white people, by giving a failed non-comparative analogy as an excuse for racism towards white people. Judging by your dim witted comment, I presume it is referring to the african slave trade. The african slave trade was created by black rulers and arab muslims over 1,400 years before the event that your dim-witted comment is referring to. You are a racist.
mikapromotesobesity 1 year ago
@mikapromotesobesity That's because they are black and their great great grandfathers were slaves.
karadan100 11 months ago
@mikapromotesobesity What you need to understand is that America is FAR more racially divided than the UK. It is more accepted over there. If a black comedian would have a show like that, he would get a huge backfire.
strictlydope84 1 week ago
What pisses me off is the way that being on a chat show seems to entitle people to be so disrespectful and hurtful about people - like Wayne Rooney and his wife. Are you talking about the host's use of the word 'they' - before he changes to talk about McGrath?
trifelgeputinage 1 year ago
All this bullshit about him being a racist and not a word about him being a fucking wanker for managing man united.
Tanas666 1 year ago
You so smart masser
councilglasses 1 year ago
Wish Pauline McLynn would shut up
TheLim19 1 year ago
zigzagzog you knob if Ron Atkinson was a total racist why was he the first manager to sign black players?
peaceman1234567 1 year ago
Who cares what hes ever done.. Hes the Nigger guy
5StarWullie 1 year ago
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well, as usual, the english prove themselves to be the most racist, barbaric people on this planet.. now go brush your teeth bitches
turbulentt55 1 year ago
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He's a racist cunt and that's that! And to all you other racist cunts out there... Go fuck yourselves already! Hitler is dead and the rest of us have moved on. (And don't waste your time replying to this 'cos I don't give a fuck and thus, won't be back to read you pointless comments!)
sdwone 1 year ago
@sdwone
how can he be racist when he was the 1st manager to have nearly a full squad of black players?
Predinator2k7 1 year ago 8
Slavery.
doylefish 1 year ago
@Predinator2k7
1) "Full squad of black players"? you're more than slightly exaggerating.....from that WBA team in the 80's there was Batson, Regis & Cunningham....that's hardly a full squad.
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2) There were jews in the 3rd reich....Does that make them not racist?.....Slave owners had servant's who lived in the house with them....does that make them not racist?
Get a clue....
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
@supahdupahguy81
"Never before had a team in the top division of English football simultaneously fielded three black players on a regular basis."
if he was racist he would have had an all white team! You THICK CUNT!
Predinator2k7 1 year ago
@Predinator2k7
Nice cut 'n pasting skills you have there...if only you had consulted wikipedia BEFORE you made your COMPLETELY FALSE STATEMENT, you fucking buffoon...
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Seeing as you're a bit slow & completely missing the point, here's another couple of "not racists" for you to illustrate it further...
Luis "Tell that black shit Henry you're better than him" Aragones, made Marcos Senna (a black) his lynchpin in midfield during Spain's 2008 euro campaign, & claims to have "black friends"...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago 2
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Ex Lazio defender & ultra right-wing Serbian nationalist Sinisa "Viera is a black shit" Mihajlovic....currently has 4 Africans & a Bosnian in his Fiorentina squad..
Do you actually understand the point im trying to make to you, you utter, utter fuckwit?...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago 2
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I'm not saying Atkinson is as bad as those two, but your retarded "he's not racist b'coz he picked a couple of black people once" logic needs dismantling....
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago 2
@Predinator2k7 don't be naiive, just becoz u sign black players doesn't necessarily make you non-racial. you only sign players becoz they will make u win football matches. its jst happens that a good proportion of black players are excellent footballers and if one wants to win he 'might' have to recruit the best; regardless of race or background. he might want the services of a black player but stil think he is a superior being than the player. Cant believe pple thumbing up a ridiculous comment
logicsemmanuel 1 year ago 9
@Predinator2k7 That's so very true. Brendon Batson, Laurie Cunningham, Cyrille Regis, Paul McGrath and Remi Moses come to mind.
darkoanton5 1 year ago
@Predinator2k7 Because he called Macel Desailly a lazy nigger on live tv. That is racist.
karadan100 11 months ago
@sdwone Good! Then you won't reply to me saying that you're a fucking knob-head. But I will post it anyway for others to read. Hello to you others! He's a fucking knob-head isn't he? But you won't see this of course... and you won't reply. ^^
Darwinion 1 year ago
he's not a racist.he's a good football pundit & manager and also a good singer from brumagem.....
also check out my videos & songs as well...hit on gypwin...cheers
gypwin 1 year ago
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And all these (esp white) people who go on about racism and poor blacks are out to prove what? This is the least racist country in Europe and Ron Atiknson has probably done more than most for black people.
So shut the fuck up.
rubysson57 1 year ago
Would he have the guts to walk up to a great man like Desailly and call him what he did to his face!!!! No racists are cowards, alleged racist he called him a n*****!!!!!!!!, fucking racist itv and bbc when Drogba has the ball they go Drog-ba like hes a sheep, people who want agree with me please give me a like :D
NickGPWin1989 1 year ago
@NickGPWin1989 and all these (esp white) people who go on about racism and poor blacks are out to prove what? This is the least racist country in Europe and Ron Atiknson has probably done more than most for black people.
So shut the fuck up.
rubysson57 1 year ago 3
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@NickGPWin1989 NickGPWin1989 and all these (esp white) people who go on about racism and poor blacks are out to prove what? This is the least racist country in Europe and Ron Atiknson has probably done more than most for black people.
So shut the fuck up.
rubysson57 1 year ago
@NickGPWin1989 why would a bbc commentator saying drog-ba be racist?
jonnyd89 1 year ago
Ron's a GENT.
fruitcake4t 1 year ago 2
What about that Forsyth light, fuck! Who called his dance partner a " Paki " , totally and absolutey forgotten about by the media , fuck the press and that dance cunt who made up his name . I'm sure he's called Barry Bloggs or something .
MrNodzilla 1 year ago
@MrNodzilla The difference was that woman wasn't actually pakistani.
standupEFC 1 year ago
@standupEFC . And your point is ? He still used a racial slur against someone , the only difference being there's plenty of football pundits to replace Ron , where as with that come dancing arse hole , he is being groomed to replace Bruce Forsyth and has no doubt got many tv programmes in the pipeline( god knows why ?). So the beeb swept it under the carpet as best they could . So she wasn't Pakistani , does that mean it's okay to call Peter Andre a Paki ?
MrNodzilla 1 year ago
haha "noted" racist. Noted by who? Some lazy fucking nigger?
catuvelauni 1 year ago
He had to go, no sensible person can say what he said about Marcel and possibly think it acceptable, he insulted 1 billion people already struggling to gain their humanity from a terrible past that used such words to dehumanise and justify slavery to its people. Sorry he had to go, what an embarrassment.
DEFACTO9 1 year ago
rons an idiot not a racist
surfin4 1 year ago
mazzy1979, learn to spell BEFORE telling others how: INDIGENOUS.
keefyg100 1 year ago
atkinson is NOT a racist you insignificant litte turd. shows how little you know about football.....
JJmacd 1 year ago
atkinson is NOT a racist you insignificant litte turd. shows how little you know about football.....
JJmacd 1 year ago
I can't believe he used 'we'. Fancy treating the whole English population as horsey haters.. I guess its ok to do that but not the same with black people eh?
superdaleybutler 1 year ago
How pathetic. Of all the bad things going on in England ie corruption, violence, peado's, kids watching porn movies, muslim women being stoned for flirting with men, the "F" word being used on TV before the 9.00 pm watershed ect ect and he gets sacked then trashed for saying the word nig nog ! So its now ok for TV to allow the recording of football fans chanting the F word on football matches, even though the swearing could easily be edited out, but say nig nog and your in deep trouble.
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
"Of all the bad things going on in England: ... muslim women being stoned for flirting"
Must have missed that one. Oh that's right, you made it up! Typical BNP fascist disseminating bullshit!
You must be a subintelligent for defending his use of rascist terminology ahead of denying that he was a rascist at all with the support he gave black players in his managerial career. But in fact you like the fact that he was racially abusive! It's the one sentiment you love about the BNP.
mowglee09 1 year ago
@mowglee09 At least I have enough intelligence to string a few words together without it being peppered with punctuation errors. So you say Muslim women are not stoned for flirting with other men !!! If it was not so terrible what happens to these women your comment would be laughable. Where do you live Lundy Island ?
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
@ALBIONTYKE
I think you'll find you initially claimed muslim women were being stoned in England, which is complete bullshit, something you made up to hold yourself aloof to Muslims and immigrants which in your mind are the same thing. So your feigned dismay and empathy has no currency with me.
mowglee09 1 year ago
Shame your spelling isn't up to the same 'high' standard. You are typical of current BNP propoganda, spouting your sensationalsitic and extreme crap in a cloak of righteousness. Fortunately the vast majority of White indiginous Brits don't agree with you, and therefore you nad your beloved BNP will alwys be an extreme and marginal part. BTW it's 'lose' not 'loose' and the abbreviation of etcetera is etc. Those in glass houses ho hum....
mazzy1979 1 year ago
Brainwashed
mazzy1979 1 year ago
good point, when liverpool play portsmouth or wigan i can't resist a bit of racism
NorfolkEnchantz 2 years ago
"I can't resist a bit of racism..." Are you 6 years old?
derkaiserbiber 1 year ago
Oh & that footballer is a lazy nigger just like that tessa sanderson ape
Dealwithit10 2 years ago
You sound pretty clever. Why do you think that?
derkaiserbiber 1 year ago
words and actions two different things
surfin4 2 years ago
RON IS A FUCKING RACIST HE CALLED MARCEL DESSAI-DONT MIND THE incorrect spelling of his last name called him A LAZY NIGGER IF THATS NOT RACIST WHAT THE HELL IS and he neva wanted 2 EXPLAIN 2 TESSA SANDERSON ON WIFE SWAP WHY HE SAID THAT I WONDER WHY
blackPowerStick 2 years ago
Fuck off is he. He made a joke. A JOKE. Why can you get a way with calling white people names? Why can you have your own MOBO awards but if we had MOWO awards it would be called racist? Typical blacks trying to make something out of nothing. Go back to your own country if you don't like it.
Dealwithit10 2 years ago
a joke calling a black person a nigger? you're the fucking joke
jonouk89 1 year ago
great bloke did loads for black players anyway
edwards21416 2 years ago 3
Ron Atkinson noted racist ,what a load of bollocks ,made a racial slur but that does not mean he is racist.
Racism actually means a belief that your race is superior to others,making a racial slur to someone although wrong does not mean that person is racist
daz19848120 2 years ago 4
As racist go, Ron's a bloody nice bloke!
Pactrolus 2 years ago 21
@Pactrolus FUCK NIGGERS I SAY
weetabixbadgervirus 1 year ago
@Pactrolus do you personally know him?
hasanrashid90 1 year ago
What the hell is racist about this? Just a funny interview :)
evikpain88 2 years ago
He called a player a stupid nigger or something years back and can't get work in the UK anymore
piehead2007 2 years ago 2
Oh so there's a story behind it! Then it makes more sense! But this interview isn't racist though! Thanks for enlightening me!!
evikpain88 2 years ago
Will ye have some tea ron, aah go on, ya will ya will ya wil!
stedav 2 years ago
I can't stand racist people like RA. Fucking hate 'em. Just accept people as they are. Except the Jews of course.
kady7869 2 years ago
@kady7869 what a dumb thing to say. i suppose youre dirty muslim then
JJmacd 1 year ago
@kady7869 what a dumb thing to say. i suppose youre dirty muslim then
JJmacd 1 year ago
@JJmacd It's "you're", you uneducated 'tard.
kady7869 1 year ago
@kady7869 whatever. give me a jew over a muslim any day. at least the jews dont go around blowing innocent people up. Im quite happy for muslims to blow themselves up, as long as no 'normal' people are harmed
JJmacd 1 year ago
@kady7869 Interesting part of the sentence to take issue with.
benwaddelling 1 year ago
n a brits a brit neway. most welsh r brits. all rangers fans r brits, iz a pretty simple word. a brit is sum1 alot irish wana drown in their own blood.
Dimmo87ie 2 years ago
tiocfaidh ár lá motha fuckas. duno iz spelt rite, pretty wasted ha! but born n bred in wexford
Dimmo87ie 2 years ago
hey SMB240796 Northern Irelands still in ireland, u brit
Buttyshannon 2 years ago
Lovely, genial racist.
antistar1000 2 years ago
ask brendan batson, cyrille regis & laurie cunningham
MrTomo1970 2 years ago
oh how i miss the good panel on rte2 not the bull they put on rte1...
class clip
Oohlaful 2 years ago 2
best show on tv
tyu198 2 years ago
the difference between Irish and english...
Put 50 paddies in a room and give them booze and they'll be singing and dancing,
Put 50 brits in a room and they'll fight.
davereal 2 years ago 3
British doesent just mean english you fuck tard. Biritsh is : Scottish , Welsh , southern ireland , england. Not just the english.
HellsHighwayTrooper 2 years ago
I think (you stupid scumbag shit cunt) you mean northern Ireland.
I never said anything about british did i?
Put 50 jocks or taffs in a room and it's the same deal.
Now bow down to a woman you inbred brit.
davereal 2 years ago
No. you said whats the difference between the irish and the english. Then you put 50 paddies, and 50 (BRITS) when you said difference between the irish and the english. So fuck you.
HellsHighwayTrooper 2 years ago
The majority of scots and welsh wouldn't class themselves as brits. No celt worth his salt would.
English and brits are the same thing a brit is Loyal to the crown and to england.
I've never met anyone in southern Eire who's a loyalist scum bag.
davereal 2 years ago
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onezdstrophy 2 years ago
In Ireland the brits are the english. To be fair your talking out your hole. No prod would ever allow you to call them a paddy even though they have trouble acepting the fact they are indeed Irish and the Irish really has never ever wanted anything from the brits.
Oh apart from the warren point ambush when a stack of them died that was class.
We want them to die.
Now have a wee cry over the fact lady di's merc reached 80 before it died and she couldn't manage 40.
davereal 2 years ago 3
Northern Irish you thick Cunt.
tull06 2 years ago
FUCK YOU.
HellsHighwayTrooper 2 years ago
What sort of Retard fucks up correcting someone you need to die.
tull06 2 years ago
southern ireland isny in britain its northern island
SMB240796 2 years ago
"Maxwell provoke Ron into giving the words 'they' and 'use' sinisterly racist connotations."
The man is old school, and clearly not a racist.
pimpman50 2 years ago
I'd love to slap that Andrew Maxwell around the place, the smarmy cunt
pimpman50 2 years ago
Racist because he said nigger? What about all the black players he managed and helped? PC gone mad
pimpman50 2 years ago
well said pimp
musicalglenn 2 years ago
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VoteBNP 2 years ago
Shove your bnp shit up your arse, Big Ron is never one of you cunts.
GoldenV68 2 years ago
Fuck the BNP!
mowglee09 1 year ago 2
Fuck globalism and your treachery to erode British identity.
BNP is the last hope you idiot.
VoteBNP 1 year ago
Fuck the BNP
mowglee09 1 year ago
@VoteBNP. I totally agree. Britain should be for the British only. ALL FOREIGN IMMIGRANTS should go back to where they came from. All those of Saxon descent should go back to Saxony in Germany, the Normans go back to Normandy in France and so on. Since the Roman invasion our culture and identity has been badly eroded and we need to reclaim it.
MrSelidor7 1 year ago
@MrSelidor7
I disagree. Britain was not created as a nation before this island was complimented by EUROPEAN immigrants who are gentically assimiliable.
Bottom line is, the majority of immigrants who have came to Britain in the past 60 years have NOT assimilated.
Conclusion: Britain is being COLONISED through a silent invasion and the sheeple think its 'racist' to oppose this.
Note: Blame the NWO and the polititians NOT the immigrant.
VoteBNP 1 year ago
@VoteBNP. No, you are too soft. Briton for the Britons. All the Saxons and Normans and Romans have brought their own culture and ruined this island for the original islanders. Back to mainland Europe with the lot of their descendants and let us return to our true island roots.
MrSelidor7 1 year ago
@MrSelidor7
Britain is a White European country, get over it.
VoteBNP 1 year ago
@VoteBNP
Just to point out how silly such a statement is when you factor in TIME (ok maybe a lot of it ) - that may be the state of it now but in time Britain won't even be in Europe and I'm not talking about the EU I am talking about the continent itself ! Life/existence is not a photograph its a movie...it changes. The Britain you seek is in the past and it aint coming back GET OVER IT. Adapt or die.
donnyab 1 year ago
@donnyab
Britain won't be in Europe in a zillion years time, great. I really don't care, we are talking about now, not then. We are crossing the bridge now, not next week.
Naturally all people across the world would want to preserve their culture and way of life, when Black people do it, you call it pride. When Asian people do it, you call it passion. When White people do it, you call it 'racist'.
You're the problem with this country. Maybe you need abit of cock to wake you up?
VoteBNP 1 year ago
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@VoteBNP
Go away.....
donnyab 1 year ago
@VoteBNP What bridge are we crossing exactly?
Within one country like Britain there are millions of different cultures, many of which are opposed to each other, so unless you are talking about Coronation Street, Fish and Chips, the X Factor, shopping, taking drugs, getting stressed and getting pissed in Ibiza - what culture are you wanting to preserve? Who the fuck are you and where do you get off judging people on their perceived race - what's so fucking great about you?
trifelgeputinage 1 year ago
@trifelgeputinage
"what culture are you wanting to preserve?"
The typical anti-British, anti-White, brainwashed fuckwit liberal comeback. If you cant have a fair discussion about world cultures where the British blatantly have a valid excuse for this invasion... Deny they have a culture, or even mock it with sarcasm.
You're pathetic, and so so wrong.
VoteBNP 1 year ago
@VoteBNP what parts of "white culture" are you not being able to represent? Black pride has a lot to do with the rise from slaves to free people hence why black history month focuses on civil rights leaders its not just..."im black woooo!". Theres certain stupidity in the country and granted a racial attack on a white person by a person of colour will rarely be citied as a racially motivated attack which is wrong but I don't see how your culture is being stolen? If thats the right word to use.
zeratul1987 1 year ago
@zeratul1987
"what parts of "white culture" are you not being able to represent?"
I wonder, would you put Black culture in inverted commas? That would be 'racist' right? You would be mocking Black culture and pretending it doesn't exist.
Well White pride has alot to do with being accepted in a society where because you are White you are deemed 'racist' for breathing patriotically. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you racist, anti-White, self loathing, cunt.
VoteBNP 1 year ago
@VoteBNP Don't play the world weary cynic, what culture do you want to preserve? I'm from a working class family, I'm proud of that, what does being white tell you about my culture? I eat, drink and shit sometimes watch football, Lady Gaga leaves me cold but I aint SELF loathing or anti white - you're the cunt with the obsession about skin colour. So what culture are you wanting to preserve? There's many more than one. Tea on the lawn or beer and sandwiches? How should we live oh profound one?
trifelgeputinage 1 year ago
@trifelgeputinage
Obession about skin colour? What the fuck are you on? If a race makes a culture, then why the fuck would you want Britain to be a White minority. Britain is a White European country, deal with it. If you change the people of Britain, you will change the culture. Have you seen our cities or is it just me? Wait... You live in the country right and go to Uni?
And stop being racist, you are insinuating British culture does not exist. Idiot!
VoteBNP 1 year ago
@VoteBNP I lived in London for many years and have worked most my life. I want to know what this culture is that you keep talking about. I'm not insinuating that British Culture doesn't exist - just that it means different things for different people and race doesn't equate to culture. British culture hasn't ever stopped evolving and changing, neither has humanity - the world will go on changing and the best we can do is learn how to be good human beings regardless. That excludes racism.
trifelgeputinage 1 year ago
@trifelgeputinage
Yes, race DOES equate to culture. If the world was full of Japanese people, 100%, then the world would have Japanese culture, simple as that. The very fact that we have a diversity of many different cultures is down to the fact of the difference in race. Race make a culture, a culture does not make a race. And if you do not know what British culture is, look at our history for the past 1000 years up until WW2. British culture is many things, where shall I start?
VoteBNP 1 year ago
@VoteBNP What about the Finns. Seeing as language is part of culture too then consider the fact that the Finns who genetically are amongst the most isolated groups of Europeans (ie they have had little mixing) so are therefore "pure" speak a language that isn't even Indo-European like English, French or Swedish or most European languages for example. The Finns are an Indo-European people who speak a non "European or aryan" language. Therefore there is proof that culture and race are blurred.
TheGoldStandardBoy 1 year ago
Sweden which speaks an Indo European language (Swedish) has a closer relative in Hindi or Persian than it does in Finnish or Estonian, languages spoken by it's neighbours who are physically and culturally not very different to Swedes. Europe is a made up continent anyway the correct term is Eurasia as geographically they are the same entity. The point I'm trying to make is that cultures are a melting pot of outside influences. Why else to Finns speak a language originating in north asia?
TheGoldStandardBoy 1 year ago
@trifelgeputinage
It excludes 'racism'. Please, what has wanting to preserve ones culture spanning back thousands of years (To be transformed in 40) got to do with 'racism'? It has nothing to do with hating anyone, I think its impossible to hate someone for their colour. My views come out of love for my people, culture, and heritage: A natural attribute in any normal human being, except brainwashed Marxists like yourself....obviously.
VoteBNP 1 year ago
@VoteBNP Your'e just not listening - YOUR culture may be very different from mine, it's absolutely certain that culture in these Islands thousands of years ago would be unrecognisable to you. Even a hundred years ago things were very different. This being the case - what can you mean by 'white culture'? The term has no real meaning. What you may think of as being essentially British I may not. Societies continually evolve, things can change in a lifetime. It's not always easy. CONT
trifelgeputinage 1 year ago
@trifelgeputinage It's easy to understand that people are afraid of change and of the 'other' - I like Britain, but then I was born here. It used to be a very different place - I am part of a lucky generation that grew up in a time of peace and prosperity. But we live in a big world modern world now - things have changed irrevocably and we can't turn back the clock. We should try to be good human beings regardless of our religion or race. Ideology and emotion can lead to some horrific results.
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