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  • You have got some flying skill to fly in those kinds of wind, I took mine out in just over 10mph for the first time and that was scary 35mph winds are only for the professional or insane.

  • I just ordered a Blue Ray last night. Setting it up will be a challenge for me. I have a Futaba 6ex radio system. Any help is appreciated.

  • Man that bites... That wind is terrible, your nuts for flyin in it man...lol We all do it, at least you can admit when you screw up or make a bad choice... Your character is better than most when it comes to that... Love your videos, keep it up man

  • cool helicopter

  • Or just as simple use the sim :P beautiful crash it's nice to know that even pros screw up sometimes.

  • to avoid issues with wind, you could do what i did. call ur local colleges and high schools, if they have large stadiums, ans ask for days they'd be willing to let you come in and fly. im lucky in that i have 2 universities and a couple of high schools that suit me fine and i fly big birds to. my smallest is my 44in wingspan raptor. i not only avoid the public a little bit but i draw a nice group of on lookers each time to.

  • nice video!!!!!!!!! but i cant hear nothing only the heli lol :D

  • unlucky - no good trying rolls in wind like that lol

  • Hi nightflyyer, love your videos, I need your help? My blueray is very slow to respond to pitch changes while flying. Have had this trouble for a while. Cant figure it out. Plus I have way to much + and - pitch. It is off the pitch guage? Any ideas? Thank you for your time and responce. Foodman3920031

  • just buy another one looolz

  • i wish that there was allways good weather so we could fly outdoor helicopters cuz indoor 1s r like for professionall ppl who ffly rc helicopters...indoor ones break easly and wen u play outdoor ones in door they cannot fly cuz they they r soo big!!but i have broke 5 rc helicopters but they r soo addicting and fun i still got another !

  • You gotta move down to the sunny south dave. Low winds+warm weather= Lots of flying

  • at least its still in 1 piece

  • Dont ever doubt Nightflyer. He has hundreds of messages a day. I thought the same as you after I sent a message to him. I was expecting an answer pretty quickly and thought maybe he hadnt read my message. but a little patience pays off. and he replied the other day. you must understand that he has many fans all asking questions and he must spend hours replying back to everyone which he cant do in one day. oh and Nightflyer.. Your the man.. thanks for replying...

  • I see why you crashed... its mst be the winds

  • look i love the dude nightflyer i am a major fan. just wish he would message me back i like the fella alot. and have learnt alot from the guy. His dave herbits science classes are awesome i like to sit throught them all. but he dosent like me

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  • That is a sad thing to say to me, as I try very hard to answer everybody. Maybe you should look at my latest video, (my 300th) and see how many emails I have a day. Right now, I have been typing for 4 hours and still have over 2000 emails in my box. Shame on you.

  • Hos is he a crook just because he doesn't get around to answering your messages?

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  • um ok but to us yanks a crook means one who stole money has he stolen from you?

  • i like the fella dont get me wrong just i get no reply from the famous dude

  • ok you win i take off comments

  • he is to busy

  • My first flights were disasters! I hit a light pole, a goal post, the ground(of course), and myself!!

    Every one does it, every one learns from it.

  • Bummer. Best to have an instructor first time. See my 300th video and good luck.

  • what is the pitch

  • google is your friend

  • i think it is to do with the nose of the heli.

  • Pitch, is like to pitch forward or aft. Pitch also relates to angle of the blades, increasing or decreasing pitch.

  • Pitch, is like to pitch forward or aft. Pitch also relates to angle of the blades, increasing or decreasing pitch.

  • i bought a really expensive begginers rc plane like 350 dollars and i got scared when i was flying it around trees so i tried to land it and i crashed and totaled it. i also hit a fence with my remote control helicopter and broke it too

  • Always get a real instructor to help the first time, just like real planes and helis. It is very difficult to learn on a Porsche, instead of a VW first. Sorry. Good luck next time and read my 9 heli flying tips if you have them.

  • i love it when you say everybody crashes, it couldn't be more true!

  • Holy crap heli's are expensive crashes.

    I'll stick to stadium trucks.

  • Not a good feeling when we crash. That Exceed Blueray sure looks like a winner, and at that price, not bad at all! Thanks for all the info you share freely, and I have already learned a bit from you. My learning curve has me currently flying a Blade 400. I started out with a MCX, and then a mild Helimax CP, now the Blade. Keep up the good work and I look forward to your videos here.

    Jesse

  • Thanks very kindly. I appreciate your comments and wish you happy flying.

  • ok i did my simulater practices and i got the hang of it, i was wondering, i was looking at some walkera helis like the walkera dragonfly 4#3B, it looks like a nice, but i'd like ur advice, is it a good brand, or is there any other better company or heli, i just want a heli i can fly indoors, but still can fly outside with no problems. give me ur advice please

  • Sims give a big false sense of security, so you will be surprised when you fly the real one. The 22e is a nice machine, however. Good Luck,

  • hey dave, im a big rc guy, mainly in rc trucks and cars, i now realize that being on the ground can get a bit boring, so i think im going to get a rc heli and not gas, well i wanna get one but i don't know wat r good and wats not, i was looking at eflite helis, they look nice but very pricey, is there any other helis that are made well, but not to pricy

  • Here is what I tell people.

    I appreciate your frustration with looking for the proper helicopter for you.

    I say "Learn on a VW and if you never crash it, then get the Porsche and also read my 9 heli flying tips, if you got em".

    Any 4 channel Helicopter is good for learning on beginning with coaxials

    Get something that you can learn on like an MCX or the Esky Hunter. In the long run, you will save more time and money.

    Sims are cheap compared to one good crash of a 3d heli.

    Good luck, Dave

  • Hey Dave, bad luck I hate that walk to see what the damage is don't you :-( I have posted a vid link to one of my crashes with my 4CH heli, my mistake as I cut power too quick and lost hold!

  • So true. Ill look at your video. One of my rules is: No Chop Stick, no Bang boom.

  • i think part of that crash was FLYING IN TO MUCH WIND you should no better lol o well

  • Certainly a big part of it, but if I dont fly in the wind, I dont fly.

  • keep in mind I think he lives in South Dakota so flying in adverse weather is the norm otherwise he'd never get a chance to fly.

  • True, but it is Iowa, right under the JET Stream. LOL I like the challenge. See my latest video yet. the 300th?

  • Yes I did I subsrcibe to your channel. I'm getting into RC planes soon for my third childhood something I always wanted to do but never got the time. Your videos have reinspired me lol. Just haven't decided my best way to train I bought a simulator but not crazy about it much too easy to get disoriented on it being a little dot on the screen lol.

  • Kewl Video how much do those heliz cost?

  • Thanks. This one is about $250. Check the link in the description box for todays prices.

  • honestly what makes the most diffeculty in flying a rc heli? the tail rotor?

  • It is the combination of all 7 controls at once, and when it turns around 4 of them are reversed. Most cant handle that very long and if a gust of wind or get disoriented, then it is over.

    Also, the sticks must only be moved a "hair" at a time, and all the time, not banged around like video games.

  • Dont really know yet. I think about $70

  • Sure your collective extents may not have been set correctly but I wouldn't blame the crash all on that. You successfully rolled back to upright but then crashed after that. I'd call it a "panic" crash. My 450 has seen a few :) I now keep the 3D stuff a little higher up.

  • Right, but I always follow through with the maneuver and did not panic. I was simply too low and kept going. LOL

  • Do you fly in any sims? I practice in Phoenix Sim using my DX6i. I consider it the most valuable thing in the world (saved me thousands in crash costs) for RC Heli fliers. I've heard RealFlight, FSOne and a few others are really good as well.

  • Yes. I like Aerofly Pro Deluxe the best. Got all the others too and even used to work as a Beta Tester for Real Flight.

  • Shame on you.

  • got my heli stuck in a tree!! made a funny vid though!!

  • ive never seen you crash before.

  • Haha. Not often, but everybody crashes. It is part of the learning curve. LOL

  • Curiosity asks why you flew in 30 - 35 mph winds. I'm just starting in the hobby and thoroughly enjoy your videos. It's like having my own training at my computer.

    Thanks.

  • It is always windy here, so If we don't fly in the wind, we don't get to Fly.

    Besides, it is darn good practice for me at my age.

    Thanks for the kind words.

  • dude let that airplane down and see what happens

  • ????

  • Hey Dave:) I wanted to know what you think about upgraded parts as in the metal parts, like swash plate, tail assembly, blade grips and so on. Is it worth it, does it make it more stable or are the plastic stock parts just fine? I just bought an Esky Honey Bee 2 and wondered if I should up grade those parts or not. Also do you know how well the Honey Bee 2 can handle wind, lets say 10-15 mph?

    Love your videos they have been helpful while I was learning 4ch heli, now im moving up to 6ch 3D:)

  • To me, most is hype as none of my plastic parts or stock helis ever wore out or broke, unless I crashed. That is the only time I would consider upgrading parts. Bigger brushless motors always sound tempting too, but the tail rotor usually cant keep up with the extra torque and power. My theory, is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I have lots of HB videos flying in very heavy winds, so you can see for yourself that they do well, if you know how to fly. Thanks for the kind words and good luck.

  • This Is Exactly Why I Dont Like 3D Helis, Just More Ways To Crash, Lol

  • LOL. So true.

  • it was a great flight anyway Dave :) just dial it in more for next time mate ;)

  • Thanks.  Yep it was another lesson.

  • So how much it cost you to put her back in shape? When I crashed my Kyosho RRR (it went UNDER the guard wall at the local track at about 60-70 MPH) it "only :" cost me an exploded fuel tank - luckily it was almost empty and the fuel didn't splashed the engine :))

    Not a nice feeling though - the sound of carbon fiber and plastics crunching :)))))))))))))))

  • Not sure yet, as I have not gotten the parts, I don't think it will be too bad. I flew gas nitro for years, and can tell you it wont burn on a hot engine and catch fire, so relax. But fuel is messy all over everything. LOL.

  • "But fuel is messy all over everything. LOL."

    At least I got the front drivetrain nicely oiled FROM OUTSIDE :))) Destroyed the foam tyres I was using on that time. I didn't know the nitro doesn't burn in contact with the hot engine - must be the temperature is not high enough for autoignition... I checked your other videos - really nice flying :)

  • Oh dear,, I know what it feels like,, i've also got a Rc buggy on nitro and if i crash that that sucks too,, but then the hard thing starts, comming home and telling my parents:p they always start lauging and then i have to find new parts...:S i've got a quite uncommen brand HongNorr so i have to order from the web and wait for ages until the arrive,,

    Better luck next time dave:)

  • Thanks kindly.

  • Dave I just picked up one of those Eflite CP2's the 3d mini heli ITS awesome little machine you should check this little guy out great for those crazy winters you have and flying in the gym. =) Amazingly stable for such a small size.

  • Haha. I did a review on the CP2 and also an upgrade video, so I know about that heli. It is a good one. Thanks for the comments.

  • i bet you were like "damn now i gotta fix this darn thing" i remember when i crashed a my cessna i was so mad

  • Yep, it is still sitting waiting for parts, but yeah, I hated it.

  • What did the guy in your LHS say Dave? "You.... Crashed?" I did mine last w/end, pure dumb thumb moment, inverted, and pushed when I shoulda pulled. But it's comforting in a funny sort of way to see that even the best have off days.

  • Sorry about your crash. Glad also to have someone else who can relate. Thanks for the comments.

  • still a better pilot then me-i was just trying to hover my heli when i tiped it over on accident and got a rotor stuck in my wall...it was my first try

  • That is a bummer. Study my 9 heli flying tips again and good luck.

  • Yeah the wind where your at is pretty strong, not for me as i dont even have a flying machine. I'm surprised at your skills even after the near misses i would have lost it after the first near miss and caused a crater... but not you :)

  • Thanks very much for your comments.

  • where do you fly cause it allways seems windy and cold

  • Iowa. If I didnt learn to fly in the wind and cold, I would not get to fly, since moving here from So California where I lived 50 years.

  • Nice flyin! be glad when i'm even 1/4th has good

  • Thanks very much.

  • Ouch. Sorry about the crash Dave. Look forward to seeing her up again soon.

  • Thanks kindly.

  • Dave is nice to see you in HD, greetings from mexico Amigo!

  • Gracias, y tu.

  • im gonna buy a palm size helicopter any ideas on what to get but ive only got £40 =[

  • Noooooo!

    Perhaps one day, I'll remember to hit the throttle hold too. Unfortunately, my typical thought process immediately pre-crash goes more like this: "@*&#?X!"

    Good thing those replacement drive gears are inexpensive!

  • Haha.  Thanks very kindly for your comment. Crashes are part of the leaning curve and every flight is a lesson.

  • I will come back to watch this time and time again so it will help pay for some parts sorry to see it happen to you

  • Thanks very much. I appreciate your loyalty.

  • see there is another 5/5 star video thanks

  • Your a good man. Thanks.

  • Because of you Dave i bought my first 4 ch rc heli

  • Do you hate me now? LOL.

  • no i love it

  • I have a kds 450 witch is just like a blue ray and it flys great and im getting a blade 400 to.

  • All right! Good luck.

  • great

  • Thanks kindly.

  • I didnt break it, but you can get them from xheli.

  • Thanks very much.

  • yay i resantly had a wreck with both my b4 stealth and my honey bee. the wreck retired my b4 and scred up the head on my honey bee

  • Bummer.

  • Hi, my dear friend Dave!

    Yeah! Everybody crashes once in a while. Your crash in this video was not too nasty, though. I crashed my TREX 450 two weeks ago while practicing loops. My heli looked like "abstract art". Ha ha ha!

    More power and God bless you, my friend!

    yours,

    Tony

  • Thanks Tony. I appreciate your comments, and you know the feeling first hand too.

  • the impossible just became possible :|.

    thats a first! XD.

  • Haha. I crashed a lot in the beginning years as it is part of the learning curve.....still is, huh? I appreciate your comment.

  • This even inspire me more, last month i bought first a futaba flight simulator to practice first as the dubai rc hobby shop suggested. even in the simulator i crash more and more. the airplane is easy to fly and to land but i dont wanna purchase it in the future. i most wanted the helis which i prefer the best for me. there is a Vibe 5 channel and a T rex 5 channel im planning to buy but before ill stick to the simulator and the 4 channel first. nice video thanks.

  • Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it.

  • Please keep up the videos i love watching all these especially the flying alarm clock LOL.

  • Haha. Thanks very much. Yep, Jeff got me good on that one.

  • ouch dave that was a rought landing lol now i dont feel so bad about crashing my hummingbird i got into a left slide drop so i leveled it out but was going to fast and powerd down the throttle made a smooth crash landing but smashed my tail rotor i glued it back together lol

  • Thanks. I appreciate that.

  • so you had throttle hold on during flight?

  • Yes.

  • :(

    that sucks man. im sorry...

    but at least it didnt end up in the trash!

    :)

    keep it up. i love your vids!

  • Thanks kindly.

  • Yeah yeah, explanations explanations, that heli crashed not due to pilot mistake, but due to mechanical isues :D

    Mr. Herbert, face the truth it was your mistake.

  • Your comments are contradictory, I never blamed anybody or anything. I just said it wouldn't hold inverted long enough on that slow close roll to the ground. I am simply showing that anybody can crash, even me, no matter what the reason.

  • I understand, but I'm surprised, whats the point to put +pitch more and -pitch less in a 3D mode. the + and - pitch angles should be the same.

  • i believe he was referring to more + and - while doing the roll. He knows what hes talking about been flying for longer than ive been alive.

  • Thanks. Your right. I rolled a slow roll too low, with not enough negative pitch, which I should have checked more thoroughly on the tx first, but in the wind, it is very hard to tell.

  • Yes, they should. There is a knob on this Particular TX that adjusts the positive and negative pitch. I dont like it, as it can get bumped easy. This is only the 5th time I flew this heli, as the weather has been miserable for 6 months. I cant wait to get it dialed in, with good weather.

    I can make it +12 and -5 degrees neg, if I wanted to. I wanted 0 at center,but its difficult to tell, till you fly and in this wind, its even more difficult. I thought I was close enough and rolled too low.

  • One more question.

    Why you dont use the DX6i ?

    I think its really good tx, I have one and using it with my Hurricane 550.

  • I use my Spektrum on lots of my other helis and planes. But this one came with the TX, so that is why I am using it. Id prefer the Spektrum, cause it is programmable.

  • been waiting to see some nightflyyer 3d heli action!

  • Been waiting for calmer weather too, so I can, cause none of those 3d pros would attempt flying in these winds and do much 3d, like I did

  • umm fixable. with time, effort and parts. also love =]

  • Thanks.

  • you did well... good flight anyway. Don´t sorry... some news parts and it will be fly again... I like to see you flies.. everyday a new video... wow.

  • Thanks kindly. I appreciate that. Not much else to do in this long weather.

  • wops xD

  • damn bad luck dude! too windy Ever thought about creating your own prototype with parts of some collision?

  • Haha. I did make prototypes years ago, but now days, it is just as easy to fix the broken ones..Thanks. I knew It was too windy. Pilot error.

  • Like soviet fighters, a beautiful flight until the crash.

  • Thanks. So true.

  • arent you glad you have a buddy lol, i didnt remember the throttle hold switch myself for 3D when you crash, did you attempt to loop a few times? seemed like every time you were about to roll inverted it would not let you, as in you'd get to the top of the loop and not finish off on a few of them.

    Nice flying though, sorry for the crash

  • Yeah, thanks. I should have dialed in my pitch curve better, as this heli tx has a knob, (not like my spectrum) and I rolled to low with not enough neg pitch. Pilot error.

  • Great flying IMO. I have to concentrate every fiber of my being to keep my honeybee afloat in 3mph winds.

  • Thanks kindly.

  • 35 mph.. I'd be on the sim! You controlled it well until it went down. I love the Blueray. Mine's about 1/3 trex now with some replacement parts. You crash, you fix, you fly again. Maybe a higher kV motor is in the near future?

  • I may have to make some changes, for sure, I just didnt have my pitch curve right.

  • 5*: and +1 for the repair vid, if you can make one. (re: shield400's comment)

    You had good news, tho, you implied that it could be fixed?

  • Thanks a lot.

  • hey look on the bright side could been alot worst ,,it held up pretty good

  • Yes, thanks

  • the video is choppy

  • And the point?

  • The wind in your area blows only from one direction or it blows randomly?

  • It changes day to day and mostly across this road at an angle.

  • no no no it is not pilot error ...?it is just that gravity got the better of you {*_*}

  • Haha. That too.... Yep, I slow rolled to low, with not enough neg pitch. This is only the 5th time I have flown this heli, so haven't got it dialed in yet, and especially in the darn wind.

  • LOL, Great vid Mr. Herbert!

  • Thanks.

  • at least you didn't blame it on the wind!!!

    it hate people who always say it wasn't me, maybe you prove to them that everyone crashes even the pro's so there is nothing to be ashamed of!!!

    5 stars!!!

    henman9010

  • Haha. Yep, I slow rolled too low, with not enough negative pitch, which I should have tried to dial in a little better, but hey, it is part of the learning curve. Thanks for the kind words.

  • no problem

  • A moment of silence please.........thank you.

  • Thanks.

  • OH NOOOO!!! I never thought I'd see the day, I'm so sorry Mr Herbert.

    +1 to everyone who wan't to see a repair video, I think that would be excellent.

  • Thanks. Crashing is part of the learning curve and every flight is a lesson.

  • Dave you have some big old b---s to fly it in that wind mate as it's not a big heli and things where going well up untill the crash,i always say to my mrs i hate doing that walk of shame but if we don't we don't learn where we went wrong and it's nice to see you are a mortal man just like the rest of us mere mortals,10 out of ten for showing it =5*

  • Thanks kindly. Yep, that was a dumb move for me to try that slow roll that low with not enough neg pitch....but I wont do that again. LOL

  • heh, if you don't push it just that little bit, you're missing out on all the fun! Fortunately (almost) everything is repairable for a price - time and money.