Born Again? Why after the emotional experience that you call being born again, are you no different? Being "born again' has a lot more to do with things traditional dogma and current traditional religion have no idea of, many are called, few are chosen, do you truly seek to be "born again", it's a birth that you can experience, but it's not what the emotional, altar bunch think it is. Seek the religion of Jesus, not the religion about Jesus, Greater things that I do shall you do, now learn.
After watching your video it really made sense. I have always believed that a "prayer" was not what God was looking for. Over the past 1 years I have seen God work in my life. The ony thing I am struggling with now is some sin that I can't seem to get rid of. I have given it to God numerous times but seem to not get victory. Is this because maybe I am not regenerated by the Holy Spirit who is supposed to give power over sin? I have seen many other areas in my life heading to the Cross.
Paul spoke to Christians when he said in Romans 6:12-14 says "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." God bless you.
I understand what Paul is saying in Rom 6:12-14 and have seen deliverance from some major sin in my life over the past 12 years. Are we not to struggle with any sin art all? Didn't Payl even say "I do things I don't want to and don't do things I want to" also, did he not have a thorn he struggled with? Do you still have sin you battle with or is sin COMPLETELY gone?
I answer this question on page 95-96 of The Graham Formula. You can download the book for free. There I deal with the two ways of interpreting Romans 7:14-25. As long as the saint lives in a physical body, he will struggle. The problem is when saints and heathen use Romans 7:14-25 to justify the abandonment of the Spirit versus flesh struggle. Heathen use it to justify a Godless salvation and saints use it to justify a Holy Spiritless one.
I remember Calvinist champion D. James Kennedy used have a personal commentary on his tv show after each weekly broadcast of his sermon. He would try to lead people in his own form of Sinner's Prayer.
I know all about false conversion. I was introduced to Christ (or so I thought) by a Protestant friend scaring the Hell out of me with a F & B homily when I was 14. It doesn't work. Fear of Hell in place of love for God is a form of Devil worship. No wonder I slipped quickly.
BG is not of sound mind....i believe he lost his anointing...tho he brought many to Christ yet he may not obtain the prize.
1 Cor. 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
how tragic that he spoke his recent senile words in larry king. He use to preach pure gospel when he was a young.
who wrote the bible people who never saw jesus.christainity is fantasy based on lies and a book that the christain book came two centuries later.which none of the authors ever saw jesus.ask your preachers did mathew mark luke or john ever see jesus in their entire lifetimes.the preface of the new king james version proves the fantasy of the preacher above it states this book has grave defects.then you should ask gods word have grave defects does defects mean lies and fabrications simple question
Billy Graham now says that 80% of Southern Baptists are not born again. He recognizes the problem that he is part of. The altar call evolved into its present form in large part because of his ministry. It's good to know how we arrived at this terrible place. God bless you.
The problem is simple: churches have taken the work of the Holy Ghost out of the work of salvation. Today preachers convince men of their sins instead of waiting for the Lord to convict them of their sins. This ploy used by Satan has worked well because of man's desire to see great works done by...himself.
You see, many of the preachers who use this `technique` (and thats what it is), will cite Moody Finney & others, but NEVER say they have an Inquiry room set up, go painstakingly through the Word and point out sin, repentance, faith in Christ on a 1-on-1 basis..just say, believe & receive! Yikes!
Thank you for your comment. You are right. The results are what we see today. Several Southern Baptist ministers I know quoted Billy Graham as saying that 80% of Southern Baptists are not born again. Probably the spurious conversion epidemic is common among American evangelical denominations.
my anti virus is messing up my posts but , I think you have a sincere heart in this matter. by the way I have posted on several other videos yet I have not received better care and blessing such as yours. I think you have the right idea care and love in our responses much like Christ.
again thank you you have a tender heart and I feel his spirit in your words. but in closing I love you my brother. and keep it up!
Thank you for your comment. The question is whether people have saving faith. Saving faith is a gift of God (Ephesians 2:8). Billy Graham expected that just 25% of the people that came forward in his crusades, even with altar counseling and extensive follow-up, would be born again. Billy Graham took much more care with penitents than modern evangelists. He now says that just 20% of all Southern Baptists (his own denomination) are born again. God bless you. Patrick
my post was cut short there, but the whole of the matter is Im not going to judge if someone is saved or not if they go to the alter, I appreciate you sincerity as this is a great spiritual matter of the most utmost matter.
I really think that the real problem is discipleship. or the lack thereof.
now there will be those not in good soil. but how many fall through our cracks and are not welcomed to our church.
Great video...the modern church has made up the alter call and sinners prayer. It not found ANYWHERE in the Bible...only repentance and faith.We try to entice people into faith.
Pt 1 -The "inquiry room" concept is still used to interview after the alter call and before baptism and church membership in the Southern Baptist denomination.
Most saved folks think the mongrel "method" of inviting the lost to meet with the Church (which is supposed to be pure), preach to them, and have them "come forward" to "receive Christ" is of God. No, he told the saved to GO OUT INTO THE WORLD and PREACH (proclaim)the Gospel.
Sent you book plus DVD by mail to Ireland a while back - you should have it soon. I tried the youtube first video on two different computers and I didn't see a glitch. God bless you.
Hi Patrick, thanks a bunch. I received your book and DVD, but originaly assumed it was from Amazon as I had just placed an order for it a few days back. I thought it had come VERY quickly, also I noticed it came SEE, not a bookseller. Anyway, really enjoying the book, and I'll pass on my extra copy to another soulwinner.
whoever made this their information is wrong, finney went up on a mountain and told God to make him born again. finney somehow managed to get God to engineer his repentence. I wouldn't say he was sound in the least.
I suggest you read original source materials on Finney to find out for yourself what was good and bad about his theology and methods. Finney went through a typical struggle of faith before God saved him.
Some sound men in the faith wonder whether he was truly born again himself due to some of the things he taught. Good intentions and results do not justify false teachings. Compare the teachings on the sinful nature in Finney's Systematic Theology to Wayne Grudem's Systematic Theology. You will see vast differences and one must go to the Word of God to discern what is Truth.
You are right about Finney and original sin. It would take many hours to discuss the subject. Finney believed if God told people to repent, He must have provided a way for them to do so. I agree that we must go to the Word of God for the truth. God bless you.
I have shared your youtube to those on my blog. I think my eyes will be opened by what you have posted, concerning the altar call and the false professions of faith.
Each day I am going to share one of the different videos and am excited to watch all of them.
Hey that is so cool. I'm really excited about these about these videos too. Are you guys Calvary Chapel? What's your blog? Check out our crossreachevangelism dot blogspot dot com
Where did Part III go? I cannot find it?
tigerlilly66 1 year ago
Hello tigerlilly66-
I assume you found it.
Patrick
patrickmcintyre 1 year ago
@patrickmcintyre =
For some reason, part 3 was not showing up in the list of related videos last night, but is there tonight.
Thanks !
tigerlilly66 1 year ago
Born Again? Why after the emotional experience that you call being born again, are you no different? Being "born again' has a lot more to do with things traditional dogma and current traditional religion have no idea of, many are called, few are chosen, do you truly seek to be "born again", it's a birth that you can experience, but it's not what the emotional, altar bunch think it is. Seek the religion of Jesus, not the religion about Jesus, Greater things that I do shall you do, now learn.
gtr362 2 years ago
Hello gtr362-
Thank you for your insightful comment. Emotions, like good works, can be an outward sign of an inward grace, but not necessarily.
patrickmcintyre 2 years ago
Patrick-
After watching your video it really made sense. I have always believed that a "prayer" was not what God was looking for. Over the past 1 years I have seen God work in my life. The ony thing I am struggling with now is some sin that I can't seem to get rid of. I have given it to God numerous times but seem to not get victory. Is this because maybe I am not regenerated by the Holy Spirit who is supposed to give power over sin? I have seen many other areas in my life heading to the Cross.
LeadThemToCHRIST 2 years ago
Hello LeadThemToCHRIST-
Paul spoke to Christians when he said in Romans 6:12-14 says "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." God bless you.
patrickmcintyre 2 years ago
I understand what Paul is saying in Rom 6:12-14 and have seen deliverance from some major sin in my life over the past 12 years. Are we not to struggle with any sin art all? Didn't Payl even say "I do things I don't want to and don't do things I want to" also, did he not have a thorn he struggled with? Do you still have sin you battle with or is sin COMPLETELY gone?
LeadThemToCHRIST 2 years ago
HelloLeadThemToCHRIST-
I answer this question on page 95-96 of The Graham Formula. You can download the book for free. There I deal with the two ways of interpreting Romans 7:14-25. As long as the saint lives in a physical body, he will struggle. The problem is when saints and heathen use Romans 7:14-25 to justify the abandonment of the Spirit versus flesh struggle. Heathen use it to justify a Godless salvation and saints use it to justify a Holy Spiritless one.
patrickmcintyre 2 years ago
thank you so much of the video.
I have learn alot.
I will studied the teachings of the early pastors before the 20th century.
CloudyandRain 2 years ago
I remember Calvinist champion D. James Kennedy used have a personal commentary on his tv show after each weekly broadcast of his sermon. He would try to lead people in his own form of Sinner's Prayer.
I know all about false conversion. I was introduced to Christ (or so I thought) by a Protestant friend scaring the Hell out of me with a F & B homily when I was 14. It doesn't work. Fear of Hell in place of love for God is a form of Devil worship. No wonder I slipped quickly.
jesujoyofmansdesirin 2 years ago
Has that scumbag fraudster Billy Graham passed on yet? He spent a life of making millions from preaching lies and mythological nonsense.
goldstead 2 years ago
it's alzheimers i.e. his comments on larry king.
BG is not of sound mind....i believe he lost his anointing...tho he brought many to Christ yet he may not obtain the prize.
1 Cor. 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
how tragic that he spoke his recent senile words in larry king. He use to preach pure gospel when he was a young.
Christ is the ONLY way...John 14:6
hisalone1212 2 years ago
who wrote the bible people who never saw jesus.christainity is fantasy based on lies and a book that the christain book came two centuries later.which none of the authors ever saw jesus.ask your preachers did mathew mark luke or john ever see jesus in their entire lifetimes.the preface of the new king james version proves the fantasy of the preacher above it states this book has grave defects.then you should ask gods word have grave defects does defects mean lies and fabrications simple question
OZMYMAN 2 years ago
Hello Ozyman-
I would be willing to exchange information of the veracity of the Bible versus the Koran if you wish.
patrickmcintyre 2 years ago
Finney-ism.
valambiguous 3 years ago
No - Billy Graham understands the path of peace. This is the work of god.
latribe 3 years ago
Hello Proverbs1x26-
Billy Graham now says that 80% of Southern Baptists are not born again. He recognizes the problem that he is part of. The altar call evolved into its present form in large part because of his ministry. It's good to know how we arrived at this terrible place. God bless you.
patrickmcintyre 3 years ago
The problem is simple: churches have taken the work of the Holy Ghost out of the work of salvation. Today preachers convince men of their sins instead of waiting for the Lord to convict them of their sins. This ploy used by Satan has worked well because of man's desire to see great works done by...himself.
locustnhoney 3 years ago
very interesting makes alot of sence regarding false converts. wolves trying to act like sheep
GodsWordIsTruth 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment - I think you are right.
God bless you.
patrickmcintyre 3 years ago
You see, many of the preachers who use this `technique` (and thats what it is), will cite Moody Finney & others, but NEVER say they have an Inquiry room set up, go painstakingly through the Word and point out sin, repentance, faith in Christ on a 1-on-1 basis..just say, believe & receive! Yikes!
mumpty 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment. You are right. The results are what we see today. Several Southern Baptist ministers I know quoted Billy Graham as saying that 80% of Southern Baptists are not born again. Probably the spurious conversion epidemic is common among American evangelical denominations.
patrickmcintyre 3 years ago
my anti virus is messing up my posts but , I think you have a sincere heart in this matter. by the way I have posted on several other videos yet I have not received better care and blessing such as yours. I think you have the right idea care and love in our responses much like Christ.
again thank you you have a tender heart and I feel his spirit in your words. but in closing I love you my brother. and keep it up!
standupforhim 3 years ago
well if you believe in your heart and you confess with your mouth. you are born again.
standupforhim 3 years ago 2
Hello standupforhim-
Thank you for your comment. The question is whether people have saving faith. Saving faith is a gift of God (Ephesians 2:8). Billy Graham expected that just 25% of the people that came forward in his crusades, even with altar counseling and extensive follow-up, would be born again. Billy Graham took much more care with penitents than modern evangelists. He now says that just 20% of all Southern Baptists (his own denomination) are born again. God bless you. Patrick
patrickmcintyre 3 years ago
my post was cut short there, but the whole of the matter is Im not going to judge if someone is saved or not if they go to the alter, I appreciate you sincerity as this is a great spiritual matter of the most utmost matter.
I really think that the real problem is discipleship. or the lack thereof.
now there will be those not in good soil. but how many fall through our cracks and are not welcomed to our church.
anyway God bless you abundently.
standupforhim 3 years ago
Great video...the modern church has made up the alter call and sinners prayer. It not found ANYWHERE in the Bible...only repentance and faith.We try to entice people into faith.
firemedic08 3 years ago
Hello firemedic08
Thank you for your comment.
Patrick
patrickmcintyre 3 years ago
Thank you so much for this Video series it is Very well done! I sent the link to other Christians.
papapatriot 3 years ago
And I
loudnmouthy 3 years ago
Pt 1 -The "inquiry room" concept is still used to interview after the alter call and before baptism and church membership in the Southern Baptist denomination.
Will watch the next video.
TestReply 4 years ago
Nice Movie Guys - hes a legend! hgrant.net
bubbles29118171 4 years ago
Most saved folks think the mongrel "method" of inviting the lost to meet with the Church (which is supposed to be pure), preach to them, and have them "come forward" to "receive Christ" is of God. No, he told the saved to GO OUT INTO THE WORLD and PREACH (proclaim)the Gospel.
k8ai 4 years ago 2
Maybe it's only on mine, but your vid is acting weird. It wasn't doing it before. Is it just me?
Nice to see your vids getting some hits too.
CrossReach 4 years ago
Hello Crossreach-
Sent you book plus DVD by mail to Ireland a while back - you should have it soon. I tried the youtube first video on two different computers and I didn't see a glitch. God bless you.
patrickmcintyre 4 years ago
Hi Patrick, thanks a bunch. I received your book and DVD, but originaly assumed it was from Amazon as I had just placed an order for it a few days back. I thought it had come VERY quickly, also I noticed it came SEE, not a bookseller. Anyway, really enjoying the book, and I'll pass on my extra copy to another soulwinner.
CrossReach 4 years ago
whoever made this their information is wrong, finney went up on a mountain and told God to make him born again. finney somehow managed to get God to engineer his repentence. I wouldn't say he was sound in the least.
talithakoumi 4 years ago
Hello Talithakoumi(clever name)-
I suggest you read original source materials on Finney to find out for yourself what was good and bad about his theology and methods. Finney went through a typical struggle of faith before God saved him.
patrickmcintyre 4 years ago
Some sound men in the faith wonder whether he was truly born again himself due to some of the things he taught. Good intentions and results do not justify false teachings. Compare the teachings on the sinful nature in Finney's Systematic Theology to Wayne Grudem's Systematic Theology. You will see vast differences and one must go to the Word of God to discern what is Truth.
jacob7d 4 years ago
Hello jacob7d-
You are right about Finney and original sin. It would take many hours to discuss the subject. Finney believed if God told people to repent, He must have provided a way for them to do so. I agree that we must go to the Word of God for the truth. God bless you.
patrickmcintyre 4 years ago
Very interesting. Never heard this before.
meypole 4 years ago
I have shared your youtube to those on my blog. I think my eyes will be opened by what you have posted, concerning the altar call and the false professions of faith.
Each day I am going to share one of the different videos and am excited to watch all of them.
8thperson 4 years ago
Hey that is so cool. I'm really excited about these about these videos too. Are you guys Calvary Chapel? What's your blog? Check out our crossreachevangelism dot blogspot dot com
CrossReach 4 years ago
Cool, Can't wait to watch them all.
CrossReach 4 years ago
Thanks for sharing; this definitely sounds like it's going to be good!
thrufaithalone 4 years ago
Yeah I think it's really good. Why not share it with your friends on youtube too?
CrossReach 4 years ago
Thanks for sending this to me I've watched it twice already and I'm sure it won't be the last...
shorelineoftahoe 4 years ago
That's great. You should send to others aswell.
CrossReach 4 years ago