Brahms - Handel Variations (8/8) Fuga {Ashkenazy}

[ferocel]

If all these arguments had been left in pt1/8, we'd all be in serious shit .....

[Erikk91]

thats an epic fugue!

[3NUNS]

@bartje11 : David in Australia. Right here !

[bartje11]

@3NUNS Nice to meet you!

[3NUNS]

@bartje11 : I try to be driven by honourable intentions ; Ik probeer te worden aangedreven door de geachte bedoelingen.

[3NUNS]

I think that the person who was silly enough to put this extract up and remind cutsomers of Youtube that they cannot unfortunately perform this so highly excellent set of variations on a theme taken from Handel should adjust this site so that NO comments can be made. After all the majority of Youtube customers are unthinking robots.

[Redflowers9]

I love music that takes me out of the comfort zone and shows me that there is more to life than just copying others to survive to copy others. Beauty comes from good intention.

[3NUNS]

@Redflowers9 : Performance of this composition should be a walkover for you ! Look at Brahms Exercises and then the fugue. Work at it for twelve (12) months.

[Redflowers9]

@3NUNS gee thanks

[3NUNS]

@Redflowers9 : 'gee' is cryptic blasphemy for 'Jesus'. Your soul is more important than Brahms. Thus you cannot have thanked yourself really.

[Redflowers9]

@3NUNS I did not know that, well I was using the informal popular version. No no, thank you. Gee wiz.

[3NUNS]

@Redflowers9 : Now you are a total fool.

[Maspixxx]

This wonderful fugue is absolutely stunning, one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever listened to. It reminds me of Beethoven's Hammerklavier fugue, don't you think?

[Maspixxx]

This wonderful fugue is absolutely stunning, one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever listened to. It reminds me of Beethoven's Hammerklavier fugue, don't you think?

[ferocel]

Why are you all wasting your time responding to a stubborn child? You can't tell gargantupimp anything because he's convinced he's right and has to have the last word (as you'll see). I can't wait for the next pearl of wisdom to enlighten us from that worldly-wise brain in that bedroom in his parents' house.

[belialah]

amazing

[RabidCh]

@sheppoz

Well I haven't played this (I plan to in the future), but I find the fugue to be anything but relaxed.

[sheppoz]

@RabidCh

How do you know if you haven't played it?

[RabidCh]

@sheppoz

Well, emotionally speaking of course. Sure, the notes are easier, but that doesn't mean focus should be taken off...

[sheppoz]

@RabidCh

You misunderstand me. I'm referring to the experience of playing the entire work from start to finish. Talk to me again when you've actually done this.

[Gargantupimp]

@sheppoz @RabidCh @magdalenaglocka Who cares.. Rachmaninoff Corelli Variations is a million times better than this and you should be playing that.

[bartje11]

@Gargantupimp Hey Pimp, one more stupid comment and you will be deleted and blocked. Keep Rachmaninov out of this. He doesn't need your sordid support.

[Gargantupimp]

@bartje11 Just voicing my opinion you don't have to agree with it or even like it, isn't that what the comment feature is for?

[Gargantupimp]

@bartje11 "Negative, stupid and know-it-all comments will be gladly deleted.

There is no freedom of speech on my channel I am proud to say!" Never Mind....  Pretty good Agnus Dei though.

[adams82683]

@Gargantupimp And what exactly makes the Corelli Variations a million times better? Don't get me wrong - that is a great piece too, but you seem to be giving off the impression that you do not think much of the Handel Variations, which is undeniably one of the greatest works ever penned for the piano. Just curious to hear your reasoning.

[Gargantupimp]

@adams82683 "undeniably one of the greatest works ever penned for the piano" <-I heard this from alot of places even being set along side goldberg variations, and beethovens diabelli. Then I gave this a liszten and it was just meh ok.

Corelli i think is better because it is more creative,original, bueatiful, and probably most importantly more entertaining.

What do u think?

[BenMcCormack91]

@Gargantupimp Rachmaninoff favored a more improvisational style, Brahms a more calculated one. I'd say Brahms is definitely more reserved emotionally, which isn't inherently good or bad. Brahms and Rachmaninoff are the only two Romantic composers for the piano, I think, who really demonstrated a thorough knowledge of counterpoint (most, like Liszt and Chopin, had a fairly consistent melody/accompaniment feel to their pieces). Both use dense, fast-moving chromaticism in their work.

[Gargantupimp]

@BenMcCormack91 There is a lot of Brahms I like a lot, but this isn't one of them. I think that there is a myth that Brahms music is more intelligent, well thought out, less showy and more "genuine" and wholesome, and that composers like Tchaik. Rachman. and Liszt are shallow, petty, overlydramatic, showy, and "cheap".

So a lesser Brahms work gets more performances and is highly lauded, where as a greater Rachmaninoff work fares worse.

[BenMcCormack91]

@Gargantupimp I think you misunderstood - I didn't mean to imply that Rachmaninov was cheap or any of the other words you used. As I said, there are things you can say objectively and things you can't prove. You're saying very confidently that this is a lesser work of Brahms. I guess I'm just pointing out that that's an opinion, and that the way you phrase it suggests you think it's more than that. Basically, I'm just... wasting my time commenting on this video. Good day.

[bartje11]

@BenMcCormack91 Not your comment, but because of that other guys comments, makes me believe that sometimes it's just better to disable the comments feature. I had to do that with my Perotinus up-load. Music from the 1200's! Even that was not safe from the obnoxious know-it-alls.

[Gargantupimp]

@BenMcCormack91 " I didn't mean to imply that Rachmaninov was cheap or any of the other words you used" I wasn't implying that you were implying anything, just stating a observation.

[BenMcCormack91]

@Gargantupimp Bottom line: Both Brahms and Rachmaninoff, from any objective standpoint, are pretty equally-superb, if you ask me. If you want to go into emotional impact, it's a matter of priority from person-to-person. Different people hear different textures, harmonies, melodic lines and formal traits as being pleasing. It's all up to personal experience/preference from there on out, and it's impossible to prove that kind of thing.

[gabpant]

i'm playing this!it's so hard !!!but i love this!

[sheppoz]

I'm gonna listen to the whole lot again. Marvellous piece, marvellous playing.

[JohnnyTiDo]

Horray for awesome musicianship!

[taviona]

Awesome, I love this piece. Quite fast but very clear.