NATIVE AMERICANS~A CALL TO ACCEPT CHRIST!! Pastor Veda Rodrigaz

[yien]

christianity is the opposite of the red road. any apple that follows jesus should just claim hispanic so as not to embarrass the rest of us. they are no longer indian inside so why claim it outside. they are sellouts. to join the ppl that did so much wrong to their own ppl makes them a sell out and worthy only to catch my spit as they kiss the white man's ass.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@NDNSupport Jesus is for everybody, not just White people. Particularly since He came as a Middle Eastern Semite with Hamitic ancestry.

[yien]

@EmetTalmudim6 according to the bible jesus came for the jews. how can you just rewrite the bible that you claim to follow? everything bad that happened to indian ppl came with christianity. it is an evil blood-sucking religion. i laugh at jesus and i pity his poor followers. you are a slave because it is a slave religion.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@yien I'm not saying anything the Bible & c4,000 yrs of Jewish & Christian orthodoxy doesn't(& according to the Bible);

1.Jesus' last act after His Resurrection was the Great Commission

2.The Messiah was to bring Gentiles into the family of God along with Jews.

3.Neither Adam & Eve nor any of their descendants until Abraham were Jews

-So unless God's plan of salvation is bigger than just the Jews Adam & Eve's other descendants are screwed-

[yien]

@EmetTalmudim6 yea...that's what i though...not all indians fall for your crap.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@yien tell that to Squanto, William Ap'es, & Reverend Jesse Bushyhead

[yien]

@EmetTalmudim6 Tisquantum (Squanto) is known as a sellout. sold into slavery by christians & helped his slave masters before his own ppl. what a roll model. William Apess (only part indian) was also in servitude to christians. not to mention he was a severe alcoholic. And Rev. Bushyhead was a cherokee that wanted to be white SO BAD that not only did he lead his group on the Trail of Tears but he also owned slaves! so the common denominator seems to be slavery. christianity is a slave religion!

[EmetTalmudim6]

@yien 1.Tisquantum A.He was sold by sailers who're notoriously A-religious) B.He was freed by Christians C.Since when is wanting to be a peace diplomat selling out? 2.Apess; A.Indians kept slaves long prior to European contact(Given the context he was an indentured servant). B.That he was mixed shows somebody was getting along. 3.Bushyhead; A.Since when is willingly sharing in your people's hardships selfish? B.He worked with Samuel Woochester to prevent the removal.

[yien]

@EmetTalmudim6 1.so the sailors were not christian? really? so are we just making up history now? he was kidnapped by Englishman Thomas Hunt, who for someone "a-religious" ...curious that he had Squanto taught (brainwashed) the christian faith. not something a a-religious sailor would do. so how about you stick with the facts. and the definition of a sellout is aiding the enemy which is what squanto did. probably because of the psychological trauma/christian re-education while in captivity

[EmetTalmudim6]

@yien

1.The sailers; As I said sailers are historically A-religious. Teaching someone something & adhering to it in practice are two different things.

2.Tisquantum also came by his faith via the monks who freed him.

3.Apess; People getting along is precisely the issue;

Note;

100 yrs of peace between the Cherokee & early traders,

The 80 yr "Peace of Pocahontas" between Jamestown & the Powhattans

c50 yrs of peace between the Pilgrims & the Wampanoag

[EmetTalmudim6]

@yien People getting along is precisely the issue; The Lumbees of North Carolina The Creoles & Cajuns of Color of the Delta & Gulf States The Red Bones of Louisiana The Metis of Canada & the US Mid-North West The Melungeans of Appalachia Was it perfect? No. Am I perfect? No. Are you perfect? No. Were they(Indian, White, or Black) perfect? No. There's only one perfect person & He was crucified.

[yien]

@EmetTalmudim6 Apess: whether or not ppl got along is not the issue. he was tri-racial which only suggests that he wasn't strongly tied to the traditions of native ppl. and i said he was in service to christians. when someone is in servitude they are likely to try and emulate their "masters". and you are the only one that can't "get along" with other groups. christians need to convert others so they don't have to hate them.

[yien]

@EmetTalmudim6 Bushyhead: willingly shared? he LEAD his ppl! that means he said "lets listen to these christian ppl that want us dead and walk halfway across the country. lets die off and give our land to the christians." and he kept slaves, not in the traditional indian way of being adopted into the tribe. he kept black slaves, in the white christian way of considering the slave to be sub-human. that was never done until christians taught that here. i cannot fathom how you are not ashamed.

[CHRISTEN9844]

@yien accept christ my brown brother

[yien]

@CHRISTEN9844 sorry...i'm not a slave

[CHRISTEN9844]

@yien motherfucker you will accept him as your lord and savior i wont let you burn in the depts of hell i wont allow it my nigga

[yien]

@CHRISTEN9844 there is no hell man. thats just something they threaten you with to get you to obey them like good little slaves. the concept didn't even exist for the first 2/3 of the bible. it came during the time of Daniel. during that time jews were captive by persians. they were zoroastrian and THEY taught hell. slaves usually adopt traits of masters...as i have said before.

[CHRISTEN9844]

@yien but jews dont believe in hell, so let me ask you who created you how can you explain life???

[yien]

@CHRISTEN9844 because the idea of "hell" wasn't invented yet. which kinda proves that it isn't real. and any man that can explain life is lying. because no man truly knows. so if the christian tells you then the christian is lying. i have more respect for the buddhist that answers "i don't know". because he is being honest. the christian is like a used care salesman. if he doesn't know he simply makes up an answer that sounds good because he is trying to sell you something.

[CHRISTEN9844]

@yien Thats because we dont know how god created us but he did, trust me dude all you non believers will be sorry.mostly native americans and most jews. Ill pray for you my nigga.

[yien]

@CHRISTEN9844 you don't have to pray for me...i don't need white ppl's religion to save my soul. they are responsible for most evil deeds worldwide...but you believe in their "god". wake up brother.

[CHRISTEN9844]

@yien first of the evil ones wont go to heaven just like non believers such as yourself! you cant see your soul right. well does that mean you dont have one ok! and all your non believing ancestors will burn in hell i know it sounds harsh but its true im a fucking realist. just like my people in africa that practice voodo there for damn sure will not go to heaven.

[yien]

@CHRISTEN9844 before white ppl came everybody was a "non-believer". so that is all of your ancestors. and you can't say you you're a "realist" because you do not believe in "reality"! something needs to be "real" and religion is a belief based on faith...not on facts / reality. sorry brother. but you been had. and you been brainwashed so bad that you are scared NOT to believe. tell me this...if white ppl have been wrong and immoral about EVERYTHING else...what makes you think they are right now?

[CHRISTEN9844]

@yien the bible says it period if its a lie why would the bible say jesus had darker skin then whites have hair made of wool?? why would whites put that in there then deny hes black lateR?? Already you didnt believe mexicans were indeginious i mean come on dude change like thisd lady in the vid

[yien]

@CHRISTEN9844 it says his FEET were the color of burnt bronze/brass. i am pretty sure he wore sandals so his feet would be darker no matter what. him having darker feet means he travelled far by walking (like a poor person). and it says his hair was WHITE like white wool. not that it was CURLY like wool. although he was mid-eastern, like a palestinian. nothing in there describes his race.

and i said hispanic ppl can't be indigenous. mexico has more hispanics than indigenous ppl.

[CHRISTEN9844]

@yien yeah he had hair made of wool likea an africans hair, and i do believe he had brown skin like jews are palestinians so why would they put tha in the bible instead of blonde hair blue eyes tell me that

[yien]

@CHRISTEN9844 you have to go by what the bible SAYS and not what you believe. it says that his hair was WHITE LIKE WOOL. not that it was made of wool. it is only talking about the color of his hair. the bible also talks about unicorns...do you believe in them too?

[CHRISTEN9844]

@yien jesus wasnt white but all do respect i dont expect you to know. Where does it talk about unicorns, and you still didnt answer who created you and your soul haha got ya! Open your eyes dude, like this women she finally came to reality unlike most people!

[yien]

@CHRISTEN9844 besides, i would rather be in hell with my ppl who lived honorably then in heaven with rapinst, murdering, child molesting christians. think about that.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@yien

1.Unicorns in the Bible; Rhinosaurus Unicornas & the Middle Eastern Wild Ox(depending on what verse).

2.Jesus' physical appearance is Irrelavent because;

A.God is ultimately beyond ethnicity

B.The context of the passage in Revelation is about Jesus in His glorified form(enveloped in light) not a list of ethnic traits.

C.Jesus came to earth as a Middle Eastern Jew; The majority of people in the Middle East & the majority of Jews(with the exception of Ashkenazim)have dark features.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@yien Reverend Jesse Bushyhead;

1.Again both he & Reverend Samuel Woochester were against removal(Woochester-a White man-in fact, along with several other White Baptist missionaries, was jailed for refusing to swear a trumped up oath of allegiance to Georgia).

2.Accompanying his people on the Trail of Tears hardly qualifies as saying, "Come on everybody sing 'HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN...'"; If so then you could make the same argument for families who stuck together in WWII death camps.

[yien]

@EmetTalmudim6 so like i said NOT ALL INDIANS FALL FOR YOUR PROPAGANDA. just the slaves and wannabe whites. you really picked out some winners there.

[funnynative]

And I invite you back into the Sweat logde and other sacred ceremonies to help you realize how our ways are not forgotten and those traditions still have deep meaningful purpose to the Native peoples.

[BiblesOnLine]

JESUS WAS ONLY A WORM LIKE EVERYONE Job, chapter 25 V: 4-6

4: How then can man be justified with God or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?

5: Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

6: How much less man, that is a worm and the son of man (Jesus), which is a worm?

[EmetTalmudim6]

@BiblesOnLine But Jesus is 100% God as surely as He became 100% Man(minus sin). So He is exempt from Job 25;4-6

[EmetTalmudim6]

@BiblesOnLine Problem;

1.The first 300 yrs of Christianity.

2.A little difficult since Paul was a Hebrew of the Hebrews, a Pharisee of the Pharisees

-& as such a violently avid aponent of Christianity-

3.As you said "Depending on the context"; the context is Jesus as the Messiah; & part of the Messianic promise is that the nonJews would be brought into the family of God along with the Jews.

[BiblesOnLine]

Christianity is like writing in Mein Kamp, Adolf Hitler claimed that the masses were more influenced by their emotions than by their brains; to this end, “all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans such as (Jesus die for our sins) and (Jesus is the Son of God or God) until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogans”. Deceit is an essential tool of church with the Christianity.

[BHSYakima]

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[EmetTalmudim6]

@BiblesOnLine

1.Mein Kamp=Hitler's melding of his own ego+Nordic paganism+19th century occultism+Racism+Darwinism & the only thing remotely "Christian" about it was the German Catholic & Lutheran imagery he hijacked.

2.Jesus is for ALL people.

3.If the Bible is propoganda it is very bad propoganda; one is presented with the good, the bad, & the ugly, unlike mythology, legend, & folklore.

[BiblesOnLine]

Your pastor takes your money to make you ignorant and to enslave your mind; I give you knowledge to free you from your ignorant.

A person can be very well qualified academically in most fields of research, but if Christianity captures and enslaves one’s mind, then one loses direction of the path to truth.

[BiblesOnLine]

Why the Europeans are so evils, full of hates, revenges because they learned these evils in their pagan book call the Bible.

Why God want women, children and infants to be killed . 1 Samuel 15:3

3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. 1 Samuel 15:3

Why GOD wants only Virgin girls Numbers 31:17-18

[BiblesOnLine]

I feel sorry for the entire native, and the Blacks that follow the Bibles, the Europeans knows clearly they will all go to hell, for the atrocity they committed to the peoples of the world, they want more peoples to go to hell with them, They wrote the Bibles and gave it to those innocents natives, and blacks the bibles, so that they can joined them in hell.

[BiblesOnLine]

When the missionaries came to Africa, North America, South America, Australia, and New Zealand the missionaries had the Bible and all the natives had the land. They said "let us close our eyes and pray." When the natives opened their eyes, the natives had the Bible, and the missionaries had the land.

[BiblesOnLine]

You have to be retarded to be a Christian, only morons can belief that an innocent man be punished for someone sins, and they called it Justices, if God is Just.

Christianity imposed on people of the world base on Wars, Deceit, psychological manipulation, enslavement, false propaganda, Economic strangulation, Exploitation and Fake healer.

95% of the peoples of the world want to be told what to do, and how to behave.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@BiblesOnLine How I know the Bible-& the Bible alone-Is THE Truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH, & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH; Please see my posts to tuskachata on this video's comment section.

[funnynative]

Our Native American religion is not dead, our Indian ways saved my life.

[tuskachata]

I will never give up the ways the Creator gave to us, the ceremonies, Sundances, Peyote. I'm down with some incorporation Jesus (not the stupid and negative stuff). I am willing to believe in Jesus too. Just don't ask me to turn my back on the ways The Creator made for us. God does not make any mistakes.

[Forysan]

@tuskachata As I understand the principle behind the Sun Dance the object is to offer a sacrifice to the Creator and to pray while connected to the Tree of Life, a direct connection to the Creator. Flesh piercing is given as a part of a prayer for the benafit of one's family & community; Some Nations even go so far as to say the dancers' suffering results in the making over again of the whole world. Correct?

[EmetTalmudim6]

@tuskachata The point of my earlier post is unlike all human effort(including the Sundance etc.) there is only

one sacrifice & prayer,

one Tree of Life,

one direct connection to the Creator,

one offering of flesh & blood,

one suffering

that can & will completely & permanently benafit & make everyone & anyone in the human family-NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE DONE OR WILL DO-& the whole world over; His name is Jesus Christ God incarnate(Thus the Only Heir/Son of God).

[EmetTalmudim6]

@tuskachata Note; For personal reasons I am no longer posting under the name Forysan. Please relate all responses to the new name listed above.

[drhoecker]

the answer is with me,however,the native people have a strong faith.

i can combine the truth with legend.i am his messenger.you are my vision.

the event is happening now my dear.you know i will tell you my story.

i have been identified as pahana. all religion has rejected me and then i found the hopi.the story rests in the hearts of man and i am to repair all things.i know i have a duty to the creator, (s)he is with me ,we all lost our way,all of us,even myself.

pahanalives@hotmail.com.

[TheWICCACHANNEL]

i call on all christians to accept the Horned God.and the Mother of us all.come to Paganism.lol na we dont try and change others.wish we did..

[DappyMilk]

Allahu Akbar!

[TheThreeMessengers]

Unfortunately the United States will soon form an image to the Papal system, a union of church and state. At this moment the U.S is a separation of church and state but Revelation 13 clearly speaks that the US will form an image to the Vatican by uniting church and state...that can never happen in the US? It's already happening!

[CTWDirector]

If our country wasn't colonized, it would have been conquered by the likes of Hitler or some other fascist pig..

[QUATLATAS]

AHHHHHH IT BUUUURNS!!!!! IT BUUUUUUUUUUUURNS!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! (GROWLS DEMONICALLY)....."You know what she did? Your cunting daughtaaaahhh?!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!

[TheThreeMessengers]

that's not funny dude.

[TheThreeMessengers]

Well, don't look at them, but I haven't heard any complaints from anybody but captain dunbar

[EndemicEpistemology]

what do I really know?

What's really going on?

Why should I trust a ghost?

Why should I trust someone who shut down the account of my good friend Starky?

Why should I trust the enemy of the Lakota, who are my brothers?

[EndemicEpistemology]

I know this: Wanbli was a good man with good intentions, but, tell me, what has "Theo" done that shows he has a good heart? I'm not judging, you obviously "know him" better, huh? What has "theo" done for my people? What has he done but create more division.

And, tell me...why should I trust you either?

[TheThreeMessengers]

Typical White Supremacist ideology, wanting to be gods, lol.

[TheThreeMessengers]

Hoka Hey!

Is this why my Lakota friend didn't trust you?

[TheThreeMessengers]

Hi Lilah, I mean Theo, I mean, whoa?

[AdventistaMilitante]

The religion of Christ is a religion of love, tolerance, understanding, and patience.

To see those qualities in action, you have to live them for yourself, and not expect others to live them for you.

Our only example is the Christ, not christians, because christians are sinners just like everybody else, but the Christ is the only one who is perfect and holy and he is our only example, you should follow his example, not the xample of sinners.

[apachesbutterfly]

Thank you for taking the time to comment, i appreciate it.

[TheThreeMessengers]

Do you know what the Catholic church did to my people under the pretense of Christianity? So now you are being culturally insensitve?

Yeah, I am bashing the Catholic Church, they are the WHORE of Bablyon...

I am NOT bashing Catholics, for they are my brothers, I am bashing the Whore who committed acts of Genocide and barbarism in the name of the Pope and Christ, who calls himself the "Vicar of Christ", "God on earth"...

Roman Catholic doctrine is ANTI-BIBLICAL and ANTI-CHRISTIAN.

[TheThreeMessengers]

"we"? Who is "we"?

Also, I don't save any one, the Sun of Righteousness does, His self-sacrifice brought salvation to everyone who will accept it.

Nobody is perfect, but throught the perfection of Jesus Christ, we CAN receive santification.

Hell is only eternal death. It's not a place full of fire, that's Catholic garbage, hell is the tomb, the grave: hell is death, non-existence, lack of life, no-breath, you are dead, no more thoughts, no more plans, no more emotions...Hell.

[TheThreeMessengers]

The first lie:

"Ye shall not surely die" Genesis 3:4

We were created by Creator to live forever, our first ancestors had a choice to live forever, or to die forever...they chose to die, because we descend from them, we are subject to death also...BUT, that's why Jesus came, so that we could have Life again, it's free, it's simple, it's our only hope.

[TheThreeMessengers]

Yes, the Catholic church is a mixture of primitive Christianity and Paganism, but to compare Nahua theology with paganism is an insult.

Catholic church is also a union of church and state...want to see the Spirit of Prophecy at work?

Here is a Prophecy:

The United States of America will become a union of church and state, a mixture of secular and religious, they will pass a national sunday law...this affects my people, why wouldn't I warn them?

Why wouldn't I announce the 2nd Coming?

[TheThreeMessengers]

Tell me, what am I doing? Since you seem to know Nahua and Toltec Theology so well, what am I doing that is not a part of our indigenous history and knowledge? Please, use some scholarly quotes about Nahua theology that is a part of "in tlili in tlapalli" epistemology.

Tloque Nahuaque, the invisible and omnipresent Creator.

Quetzalcoatl, the Only God of the Toltec who was prophesied to return;.that is HISTORY.

Actually, maybe the name "wicca" didn't exist before 1950, but Witchcraft did.

[TheThreeMessengers]

" you have blocked me for a while Xalixco. Why do you want to talk to me now?"

[TheThreeMessengers]

Last time I checked, the Bible was written from Oral Tradition and the inspired Word of God.

[TheThreeMessengers]

If you rape a woman, what do you call that? We call that SIN.

If you abuse a three year old, what do you call that? we call that SIN.

Of course death is a part of life, the minute we are born we began to die, that is a result of SIN.

Animals die to, so they also are subject to SIN.

Our Creation and all of nature is subject to sin, because everything dies.

[chulah12]

but death is only physical thing not a spiritual thing bc i spirit goes to where we wish it to go after death only on Creator's judgement will we'll be judge for good o wrong..death is only what man make it....wado

[TheThreeMessengers]

Spirit means breath, the etymology of spirit comes from pnuema, which referst to the breath of life a person has. When that person dies, their breath ceases creating a lack of life, a lack of existence. When people die, they return to the earth from where they came from and their cease to exist, waiting for the Resurrection as promised not only by the Bible, but by prophets like Wovoka and Ellen G. White.

[mariotttttttt]

@TheThreeMessengers wow..... realy? then god (well jesus) is subject to sin well.... wtf am i doing here??

[TheThreeMessengers]

No, it's not blaming the victim, it's blaming death and sin, the victim is just that, the victimi of sin and death...I heard a new ager refer it to "disharmony", same difference.

Sin is the transgression of the Law. When a man damages his body with too much alcohol and cigarettes, he is violating the laws of health, that is a sin.

When man pollutes nature, he is violating the laws of nature.

When man murders and rapes, he is violating the 10 commandment laws,

They are all God's laws

[TheThreeMessengers]

You came to respond to me first, I'm only responding back.

[TheThreeMessengers]

From the lips of Jesus:

"Dost thou believe on the Son of God?" John 9:35

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM." John 8:58

"I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and death." Revelation 1:18

"Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any." Isaiah 44:8

"I the Lord, the first and with the last; I am he." Isaiah 41:4

[TheThreeMessengers]

Oral tradition in the form of Biblical quotes, that is oral tradition.

When the Mexica passed down knowledge through oral tradition, it was also "written/painted" down to keep the concept alive, maybe not word for word, but the context of the idea was always intact, same thing with Christian oral tradition.

[TheThreeMessengers]

No, you are not in conformity with Toltec teachings and in accordance with the teachings of Nezahualcoyotl, they did NOT believe that the Creator was Creation, you are delving in New Age mysticism, sounds like paganism to me.

[TheThreeMessengers]

It's not for fear of punishment, but it's for Love of the Creator, did He not give us a wonderful creation? why destroy it? It is out of love that one obeys, not out of being scared, to fear means to hate to do evil.

The "mother earth" concept? Did we not come from the earth? Did not Creator make us from the clay of the earth? Was not the first man called "Red Man" (Adam)? Do we not return to the earth when we die?

[TheThreeMessengers]

Who are you to say where Christianity belongs? The original "church" was any fellowship of believers, in their homes, in the mountains, by the river, you can't legislate where Christianity "belongs".

yes, indigenous people have that right, but let me ask you, why are you speaking for them? Am I not Indigenous?

[TheThreeMessengers]

There is no such thing as a Matriarchy anywhere in the world. Maybe what they meant to tell you is that their cultures are Matrilineal, I can believe that, the Mohawks are Matrilineal, the Jews are Matrilineal, my Xalixco people were Matrilineal, but NOT Matriarchal, there is no such thing.

The fall of man caused a lot of pain, not only on women, do men not suffer pain when their children die befor their time? Death and pain is the result of sin, but Christ came to give us Life Eternal.

[TheThreeMessengers]

I agree, but don't Indigenous people have the right to choose Christ as part of their religion?

The Catholic church in fact is a blending of paganism and Christianity, this type of blending is what created the Union of Church and State, something that Christ dislikes, for in fact, He was killed by a union of church and state, the Jewish Sanhedrin and the Roman State...who's blending here though?

[TheThreeMessengers]

Wiccans don't believe that Creator created all things, they believe that Creator is creation.

In our beliefs, Creator is not a part of creation, only Jesus Christ is the manifestation of Creator in human flesh, but Creator is NOT in the trees, nor in the water, nor in anything, that is pantheism, my people didn't believe in pantheism, they were monotheistic.

[TheThreeMessengers]

1. Yes, during the "Dark Ages" of Europe, the Catholic Church outlawed the Bible, in fact, true Christians were persecuted by the Catholic Church for reading the Bible and for challenging the authority of the Catholic Church.

2. Yes, when for hundreds of years the people didn't have a Bible, they passed down knowledge through oral tradition, which is how I learned, through my mother.

3. By claiming that Creator is creation, it takes away the Majesty of Creator, takes away His Grandeur.

[AnahuacNicanTlaca]

WTF! Native Americans claims Jesus has their God! HOLY SHIT! LOL

This is a disgrace for my people because we have been taught by our ancestors for thousands of yrs to say that our creator is father sky and mother earth is who we believe in. This Native people are BRAINWASHED and colonized deep in the bone.

[TheThreeMessengers]

Why are you speaking with a double tongue?

Father sky is the Creator of heaven, whom Christians know as Jesus, and mother earth is what we are made of, and where we return when we die, what you mean to say is that Indigenous people are internally colonized...but when indigenous people claim a religion, any religion, it becomes a part of their identity, has nothing to do with brainwashing, it has to do with choice.

[TheThreeMessengers]

Your not blocked.

[TheThreeMessengers]

What makes you think they don't need Jesus, IndianLand26?

What is wrong with the teachings of Christ, according to you?

[TheThreeMessengers]

does not the woman have pain at childbirth today?

Is the man not the head of the household? In my land, the Man is the head of the household.

[TheThreeMessengers]

"To fear God is to fear to do evil"

Is it evil to pollute and destroy the earth? Is it evil to rape and murder? If you have a fear of doing this, then that is the fear of God.

[TheThreeMessengers]

They were in harmony with Creator, with creation and with each other, when they transgressed the Natural Law, Creator's Law, they created an abyss between Creator and themselves, themselves and creation, and between themselves.

[TheThreeMessengers]

The oldest religion is the one enacted in the Garden of Eden, when man was in harmony with Creator and with creation. Paganism claims there is no Creator, we have a Creator, Ipalnemohuani.

[TheThreeMessengers]

5. My people had scriptures and oral tradition. Christianity IS ORAL TRADITION, the Bible was outlawed by the Catholic church, so people passed down knowledge through oral tradition.

[TheThreeMessengers]

1. My people had the concept of sin, adultery and murder was against the law in Tenochtitlan, adultery and murder are sin.

2. Catholic belief, not a Biblical belief. The Bible states that when a person dies, they return to the dust of the earth, you cease to exist, you are dead, hell IS DEATH.

3. My people were and are patriarchal, as well as hundreds of tribes.

4. Man WAS in harmony with creation; God says that He will destroy those who destroy the earth; We were made FROM EARTH.

[kosmoscitizen999]

Jesus is One of a Few GREAT SPIRITS sent to guide humanity onto a path of service and fullfillment in Faith. I applaud your efforts.

Phil Lucas is a Native American friend from WA who died recently, His service to humanity came in the form of Productions of many vidios on Native Peoples.

There are many truths unlocked in his works that will contribute to the INCLUSIVENESS of all us into One Tribal People, regardless of parentage or origin.

The GOLDEN RULE is a universal truth and path.

[TheThreeMessengers]

How are the belief systems of the indigenous people different than the belief system of Jesus Christ?

[1sonicguy]

There is more than one God in the Indigenous peoples beliefs.

[TheThreeMessengers]

No, I am indigenous, and my people had ONE God.

[TheThreeMessengers]

true

[TheThreeMessengers]

How is it different?

[TheThreeMessengers]

Not the video, the Indigenous lady, it was her experience.

BTW, the Native American Church uses theh Bible and they believe in Jesus Christ.

[TheThreeMessengers]

No, this is not one of those things, because the boarding schools have been shut down, and Indigenous people of themselves and through their own choice are acknowledging Jesus Christ as Creator, today, they are not being forced, the lady in this video does not look or sound like she was forced...I'm sorry it was forced on you, it must have been a real bad experience...but your experience does not reflect the lady in the video, does it?

[TheThreeMessengers]

Oh, did Lilah send you here?

1. I accept that as an Indigenous person I have the right to be Indigenous.

2. As an Indigenous person, I believe very much that Creator is a Divine Person.

3. I'm not convincing "indians" that they are doing something wrong, nor can you accuse me of that.

4. I accept you as a White man, but you are not a Gate Keeper.

[ceomeye]

I've seen this video before. The cross of the christians and the cross of the Indigenous are two different entities. The cross of the Indigenous has a lot more essence than the plain and offset cross of the vatican. her mind has been hijacked by devil jackals...

[TheThreeMessengers]

Yes, the Vatican has been hijacked by devils, she is not the representative of Christ, though she claims to be...

The cross of Christ, it was a torture tool used by the Latin Romans, it was a tool of death, but after Christ died on it, it became a symbol of liberty, a symbol that in all the four winds and the four directions, people would receive salvation by the ultimate sundance, the sundance of death by the Sun of Righteousness.

[apachesbutterfly]

The white man's God did move thru Indian country, and we all suffered, in the name of that God, we all were treated like animals in the name of that God. We are still recovering. Now we are supposed to beleive that god, changed his mind? I don' think so.

[TheThreeMessengers]

"White man's God"???? Lilah? Do you truly believe that there is a God for each color of people's skin, so that there is a "Black man's God", a "Brown man's God", a "Yellow man's God"????, etc.???

It was not God who treated us like animals, it was Europeans. It was not Christianity that dragged us through the ground, it was White Supremacy.

God is the same and He is the Creator of ALL HUMANS, of all colors, and of all cultures, you told me once you believed in Creator, but now you don't?

[apachesbutterfly]

No , it isn't me who thinks there is a god for different people, it's them. For them to accept me, I would have to be like them, talk like them, pray like them. I would have to become someone else. I do not care to do that.

[TheThreeMessengers]

You said "the White man's God", what does that imply?

Also, you only need Creator to accept you, not Creator's erring creatures.

Do you not already speak like "them" by talking the English language?

And, who do you mean by "them"?

Who is it you would have to become?

[apachesbutterfly]

Yes I said the white man's god, the one they thought wanted them to do what they did. The same god they still say approved.

Yes I speak their language, isn't that what they wanted? I would have to become some one I am not. Some one they approve of.

[TheThreeMessengers]

So, is it the "White man's god", or the God of all humanity, whom Europeans acted in his name?  Approved? I doubt God approved of their evil actions, how could this be so since God is a Holy God and their actions were unholy?

And who is that someone that they approve of? Am I that someone that they approve of?

[apachesbutterfly]

You would have to ask them who they think their god is. I know creator didn't approve of what they did, but they believe they had divine approval. To this day they beleive that. I would never fit in the christian religion because I have been taught the ways of my ancestors, and I'm not changing.

[TheThreeMessengers]

1. You don't have to lose the ways of my ancestors, have I lost my ways? I have been the same since you first met me, Indigenous.

[1sonicguy]

The ways of your ancestors was not to be brainwashed by the white man.

[TheThreeMessengers]

Jesus was not a White man.

[1sonicguy]

Buddah is God to many Asian people. Have you seen the image of buddah? He looks nothing like Jesus because he is not jesus. Yes I truly believe that there is a God for every race of man, every animal, plant, every force of nature, and I will always believe that. There is nothing that you can say that will make me believe otherwise.

[TheThreeMessengers]

okay.

[AnahuacNicanTlaca]

Ha! I agree. :) Love your post.

[TheThreeMessengers]

Okay, so you refuse to acknowledge Jesus as God...My people believe in the Creator, Moyocani, and this same Creator goes by different names in different languages, in the language of the Bible, He is called Jesus Christ.

Stop being so ethnocentric and full of hatred toward the White man, it's not "his religion", it belongs to the world, they just didn't know how to take care of their precious bundle, will you?

[1sonicguy]

My Native American ancestors believed, and still do, in Wakan Tanka, and many other gods, but none of them are Jesus. Wakan Tanka does not mean "Jesus" in the Language of Dakoteyah.

Jesus Christ is the CHRISTian God.

P.S. I don't understand when you wrote "they just didn't know how to take care of their precious bundle, will you?"

[TheThreeMessengers]

I think we all suffer from ethnocentrism at times, like my friend Apachebutterfly above, we forget that the Creator is above all cultures, languages, nations, kindreds, and traditions...Creator has many names, because there are thousands of languages, Wakan Tanka, the Great Mystery, why a mystery? Because Creator is too big to understand in mortal terms.

Jesus Christ is the Creator incarnate, He is the Creator in the flesh.

Jesus Christ is the God of all humans, He & Wakan Tanka are one.

[ladyofthewood]

The native americans need to be open to the name of yah and the true teachings which are in the bible and not the bible along with all the false traditions that christianity teaches. Jesus wasn't even the name of the messiah, his real name was yahshua(he who saves). Jesus doesn't mean he who save. find the origins of it and you might not like what you see. They need to go back to their hebraic roots and do the commandments of the most high yahweh. In the long run they would happy and healthier.

[Bethcat61]

Jesus IS the great Spirit, the Holy Spirit, He is the only one who died for our sins, healed us by His stripes, and set us free from hell.

He rose again on the 3rd day, just like He said He would.

Ask Jesus Christ into your heart, He will come in ,wash you clean of sin,hurts and set you free.

Life is a lie without Jesus Christ in your heart, you must be born again, baptized in water,and recieve the Holy Spirit to be compleat and new person.

God bless Native Americans.

Amen.

[dstevens101]

I too am i no way disrespecting you, but the Christian faith has been used by many that are as Christian as my pet rock. They also leverage the weakness of good Christians, men and women, and instill anger and fear to justify war and killing.

But make no mistake those are fake Christians and every major religion has them.

G-d and true Christians are color/race blind and anyone that promotes racism is misled at best, or a fake Christian at worse.

[Highrigging]

Self-hate.

[robfilmer]

native religions are great! Xtianity is only way; there are many paths. This lady is intolerant of other faiths, a common aspect of xtianity.

[srikrishnajay]

"Indians"?

Native American. American Indian. Indigenous American. First Nation-ers. First Peoples. Aboriginals. Skins. Redskins. Savages. Heathens. Indians. Whatever the en vogue moniker is, the name has always been thrust upon us by outside communities. Even many of the contemporary tribal names are not native to Natives in tongue; Sioux, Arapaho, Navajo, Choctaw, Aztecs... all names imposed, altered, or just ignorantly mispronounced, by outside forces.

We are Nican Tlakah!!!

[srikrishnajay]

Because it is a systematized negation of the other, a frenzied determination to deny the other any attribute of humanity, colonialism forces the colonized to constantly assimilate.

[ceomeye]

what happend to manifest destiny? Manifest Destiny and the bible took almost all that we were. Huicholl?

[ACERTIXO2002]

How disgraceful is to hear this lady say Indian people.

Yeha cuz they religious responsible from genocides in the name of god and now many blame this churches, is 500 years later to this people want to forgiveness and reconciliation after to the world see the horrible thing to this people do in the name of the GOD.

They can go the hell probably this churches bring peyote in to the ceremony.

[srikrishnajay]

Pure Sentimentalism!

- someone who indulges in excessive sentimentality.

-excessive expression of tender feelings, nostalgia, or sadness in any form.

[srikrishnajay]

I like your Christ, I don't like your Christians... your Christians are so unlike your Christ!!!

We Native People know "God" we don't need an imported "God" from the middle east!

Indian people? 516 years have past and people still think that this is India?

"White man" Jesus wasn't white?

[churchintheair]

The world ruler,Satan,brings to the drug induced state all kinds of supra personal experiences that the individual falls pray to because they seem supernatural! Then one IS HOOKED!

But the experience of Christ in us by the Holy Spirit is the only antidote to this possession and makes the drug state seem like a very bad drunkenness of self appointed and deadly spiritual importance!

Take heart, once God the Spirit takes us, a demon spirit can never indwell us again. We are Christ's and His alone.

[JimQualls]

"I Love to Tell The Story"

[missydrms]

Awesome testimony sister!!! Praise God..

Your friend and sister,

Missy.