even though i am a Satanist, i truly do agree with most of this. the only thing i have a problem with is people saying if you're religious, it means you are less intelligent, and less human then an atheist. just because someone is religious doesn't mean they are cruel, or evil, or can't think for themselves, or a pawn of a cult or churches. some people simply need something to believe in more then themselves. and seeing the earth the way it is now, i agree, otherwise i would have killed myself
Great video. I also was raised in the Mormon church. I agree with Mark Twain, the best cure for religion is the Bible. I find it funny that while watching this a google ad popped up for Liberty University.
With Mormonisms brainwashing mantra "WE ARE THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH" it is only natural 2 abandon their idolatry 4 atheism. God is not a man Numbers 23:19 God is a Spirit John 4:24 The invisible things of God R clearly seen, being understood by the things He has made Romans 1. God does not know of any God that exists, besides Himself Isaiah 43:10,11 44:6-8,24 God declares the end from the beginning. Only a real God can declare with total accuracy things that will happen in the future Revelation etc
Wow, so you went straight from the church to atheist? It truly doesn't take much for Satan to snare someone once you budge even the least. Strangely, I should thank you...your story has solidified my testimony.
Loved the video.As a side note, where does google get the right to place adds on my viewing screen I am tired of all the adds they put up to block our view.As much as I hate to say it, maybe the government should step in to regulate like they did with the telemarketers
Great video! Most feel the truth but are not brave enough to leave their church, families and culture. It's tough and gut wrenching to potentially lose this connection and loss of faith. Stick with it it is worth it. We should never have to live in fear from man or gods period. 2000 years of mental abuse is slowly coming to an end and hopefully before it's to late.
it still amuses me how many atheists are atheists on christian terms. Although it annoys me slightly that the majority of times when they mock other paths it is still on christian terms. If the atheist world view is what keeps you getting up in the morning then good. But you need to progress from ex-"faith" to atheist if that is what you are doing.
@no2religions Is my path defined by not beliveing in Vishnu,good question. But if it is or is not. I do not use terms and viewpoints from a path i do not follow to express my viewpoints on the world. Many Athiests I have met activly seek out people of faith to evangelize to them the virtues of there own view point. Like a un-named faith we all know.Why not spend it on advanceing your own life? expend some effort on explaining quantam entaglement, dark matter and life orgians.or enjoy life.
@no2religions As far as lack of belife in gods being a path. it only is when you choose to contex it to spirtual paths. Athiest is a term that defines people who do not belive in gods, So that kinda makes it its own path, Or in effect a way that the meat sacks we are can expend our time and effort. But insted of furthering Life in a positive manor, I see many athiests who seek to wast time and life on others who may or may not be write, we are all mortal and our days number in the thousands.
@scurvofpcp So, is your path determined by your lack of belief in Vishnu? Following a "Path" is something you do. Atheism is something that you don't think. Not thinking something isn't a do.
Certainly there are a lot of time-wasting atheists, but this is in no way specific to or more prevalent among non religious people. Remember, to myself, and likely many other atheists, religious practice is a complete waste of time (at best).
@no2religions yea, I will buy that to a point. But most people of faith i know spend no time investing in it, they are it in name only. Save a few thumpers. And any more I see more athiest thumpers then i do christian thumpers. My observation only i admit. But take it for what its worth. I would look foward to debateing you some time actualy.
Im and Atheist, some label me as an Ex Mormon... i was born into it and was brain washed by it. My journey was long but who i am today WOW i could never have been this happy if i held on to stupid ideas that forbade me to live my life because i was supposed to be worried about what happens after life.
Its never ok to believe something just because and its not ok to not believe something just because either. Study leads to knowledge and knowledge is Key. If onl we all people used their brains
I totally did the same thing after leaving the Catholic brainwashing machine. I have a list of my fav quotes that I keep adding to. Love your list!! =)
This video really made me smile, thanks for that. I found some of the quotes quite profound and I will keep referring to this video from time to time because it's awesome. I have made the leap from Christianity to none, and have been very happy since. It's a long journey of self discovery and I, like others, have to laugh now because I can also say, "If you would've told me __ years ago I'd be an x (enter religion) id've called you crazy!" And here I am! Who would've thought? Peace.
I don't get why you feel the need to make this video? To make sure that there are other ppl out there that feel the same way you do ? Perhaps to validate your own feelings?
Or is the video a proselytizing type video. To show other LDS ppl that there is something else out there ?
In any case I enjoyed your video. And I am in no way coming down on you.
I think most critics of the Mormon church are there because they feel that as long as the Mormons proselytize their faith, others might as well try to help Mormons realize there's a better way out there. That's prob why he made the video. :)
I can't believe it took so long to find this great video. I love it! There were very sobering quotes like "Men never to evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do if from religious conviction." It is extremely sad statement, only because it is true. Other quotes I found hysterical. After I realized the stupid and false delusion of the mormon church (just a few months ago after 40+ years as an active mormon), I can now laugh at my once sacred-held beliefs. I am an exmormon... soon.
oh please, jazzi? I am religious myself, but at least I don't judge. you should understand that God in himself is the one according to your religion who is there to judge, and Man is NOT God, therefor, you are not in position to judge. Life is a trial, we all do life differently, right?
and if he's happy in life, then no God can judge him for that. and if a God wanted us to not do anything wrong, not question him, then he wouldn't have given us a mind to think with.
The most confusing thing as a Non-Theist (Humanist) is watching people of faith argue over different branches of the same Religion. Often truly minute differences... I cant help but to think "You dislike me for questioning the very fabric of your beliefs, and I accept that. But what the hell do you have to argue with each other about?"
Thanks for sharing this... as an exmormon I can say that I investigated the church and found it all to be a complete hoax based on Joseph Smith's desire for money and women. Any organization that asks you to believe in it based on feelings and not facts is patently bogus.
I love this. Very good quotes. I believe there is a God, but not one that anyone or anything can comprehend, so I don't try. I think Religion, any religion, is more harmful than good. If I wasn't brainwashed when I was a child, I probably would be an atheist.
As an ex-mormon, I find these quotes to be so true and comforting. Mormonism installs guilt for doing things natural by human nature. It doesn't matter what science says, mormonism teaches not to question its teachings. The truth set me free and the sooner I opened my mind, the sooner I started living a happy life.
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why would someone put so much time and effort into a video like this? you may hate mormons buddy, but while you were making this video missionaries all over the world were teaching the commandments of god to entire families :)
@jazzisaac22 please go study your EVIL DISGUSTING SEXIST and STUPID IGNORANT religion and then think about it i know my request is futile but if your not closeminded then you will and if your not closeminded then you WILL leave the religion
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@wintersfootsteps I already do buddy, that's why I'm your rebellion againts heavenly father kinda bothers me, I say kinda cause each man shall be judged for his own works, but wow... do you remember Laman and Lamuel? an angel appeared and ministered unto them and still they had no faith.
@jazzisaac22 Why do you keep calling me "buddy?" Do you think I'm a boy?
I am not rebelling, I am speaking the truth. If you have really studied the history of the church and the doctrine you would see what I am talking about. Until then, you can have your opinion and I can have mine.
I don't need you to "save" me, nor do I need to worry myself with what you think about me or my video. This is a collection of quotes for fellow ex-Mormons like myself. Don't watch if it bugs you so much.
@wintersfootsteps I'm glad you don't need me to save you cause I certainly can't :) only you can save yourself through the atonement of our savior... believe me I won't watch your ridiculous video again.
@wintersfootsteps I just wanna say that everything I said was wrong and I apologize, I was the one being a moron with these comments and I shoulda studied a little harder before I said anything... I apologize wintersfootsteps :)
@jazzisaac22 your "heavenly" father should be rideculed with complete disgust why dont you go read numbers31:1-18 and call him "good" if you still think so after reading what he COMMANDS in that passage then please call the mental institute and go live in it
The "those who disagree with us are bigots" approach is really catching on in the LDS Church and it is patently silly. If a leading democrat claimed that the republican opposition was just a bunch of haters, all sensible people would roll their eyes or laugh.
Where free speech is permitted, ideas will be questioned and ridiculed--and there's nothing hateful about shooting down bad ideas. That's what you're trying to do too, after all.
@jazzisaac22 the guy said to not watch it if you'd get offended, and he explained his motives quite well, before anything remotely offensive started, why did you watch it?
well, actually... your baptism rate is really down. when I was on my mission (1989) most missionaries baptized an average of 8 people during their mission... now it's less than half that. this is from the Church's own numbers. in 1990 there were approx 320K convert baptisms with 30K missionaries... last I checked there were 240K converts from 51K missionaries.
I don't hate Mormons... but a little humility would be appropriate. :)
@ScienceReasonBelief Like Jesus, he was not respected by his own people. Same thing to all prophet.
By the way, Mormons are not only in the USA. I am from Indonesia, big Muslim country. I was a muslim now I am LDS. I served my mission and baptized more than 75 people in my mission. Now Mormons has more member out side USA, especially in South America.
Anyhow, regardless of how many people you baptized, it's still a false religion. DNA disproves the Book of Mormon, as does it's many anachronisms (things that don't belong in that time period, yet they're in the BofM).
The real numbers are declining. Mormon church doesn't remove them from the member lists unless specifically asked to do so. But for every 5 that leave, only 4 join. Trouble ahead!
I've looked at it, but FARMS has no real credibility. No scientist or reseacher outside the Mormon church believes in their stuff. FARMS' research always begins with the desired end result in mind.
You're wrong in thinking that I only look at the negative. The Mormon chuch does do some good things.
However, less membership is a sign that there's something wrong with the fundmentals of a religion.
You didn't ask me a question, that's why I didn't answer.
@ScienceReasonBelief I was asking you a question; What is the truth? You don't answer may be you haven't got one yet. If you were a mormon you'll understand what happen to the Church Of Jesus Christ during the new testament. Were they a big church with big membership? A lot of people witnessing his ministry and all miracles.Were those miracles making them become Christians?Are those evidences have made them believers?
Yeah right, you don't have negative thing about Mormons.
@ScienceReasonBelief Some Mormons are wealthy like any other successful people. They are some big investors, but they are not affiliated with Church. Perhaps they pay big tithing.In my opinion, The LDS Chrch is the only church that has no problem again science. The church teaches that every material in this universe are alway exists. The creation is not from nothing to be some thing. The creation was putting together or organizing all the existing formula, elements and properties Etc..
I'm not talking about Mormon investors. I'm talking about the 10 Billion that the Mormon church brings in thru tithing and also it's many businesses. How can you possibly not be aware of this???
The Mormons DO have issues with science. They ignore science when it proves that the Book of Mormon is false. They ignore it when it comes to gays & they discriminate.
Don't try to tell me stuff about the church. I was a member for many years, and that's why I got out. It made me sick.
My opinion, we do not discriminate. In reality of relationship, man loves man is different than man loves woman. The science prove it that needs a man and a woman in procreation. We stand for what we believe and you stand with yours. Gays getting married, that's fine. But still they need a woman womb in order to have a baby. Oh man.. you such a handsome man, you broke so many beautiful girl's hearts..
Sorry, but you DO discriminate. The science shows that being gay is just as natural as being hetero. If it's fine for gays to marry, then they shouldn't have gotten involved with it politically. Politics and religion don't mix!
Don't be stupid... I have a "personal issue" with ANY wrong thing the Mormon church has done... not just gays. They also discriminated against blacks for many years, and they still discriminate against their women, just like Catholics do. Pathetic & sick.
The Church is focusing to hold traditional marriage. The members are simply applying what Christ teaches in the scriptures. Nothing to do with politics. I am not white, but I have no problem with that. Because I believe God is a creator of the universe including the inhabitants there in. In my prospetve both gay and hetero are natural but I don't think they are the same. So you think they both the same?
You sound so foolish claiming that these are "personal issues". These issues are of importance to anyone who cares about equality for everyone, and is concerned about the murk of religion. Your so-called "scriptures" are interfering with politics, and that's the problem. Do you not understand that? Or is that beyond your comprehension?
@ScienceReasonBelief Perhaps you are right and I realize when I read the scripture and find this in 1 Cor 2
14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Also in Mosiah 3:19 about natural man
Now I understand why the way you are now.. and I am not trying to prove anything here. So you know my perspective teh way than I am now.
@oncom2008 Marriage existed (and exists) in cultures not believing in your particular version of god. LDS members are not applying what Christ (his name was Jesus by the way) teaches since JS is studied far more than Jesus.
What does it say about the LDS when its leaders were so convinced that JS was a charlatan that they pad off Hoffman for his forged documents? Why, if JS was a prophet, would they do this repeatedly? That would trouble me deeply.
@smb12321 I am thankful for "Mormon culture" if Islam culture gay and lesbian are completely disgraced.
America is the most loving country where your right are more protected. Correction, Joseph Smith doesn't study far more than Jesus. Jesus Christ is using him as uneducated 14 yo boy to restore all things. Yes, I am sure you already. God wants us to reach our full potentials. I believe Being gay will satisfy you, but you re not reaching your full potential by redefining marriage.
@oncom2008 Sorry but your reply was slightly incoherent. I've always wondered why Jesus came to America when his visit was such a disaster. If god wanted to restore the church he sure went about it in a strange way. A Jewish Indian leaves gold plates for a NY hick to translate a document that is unintentionally hilarious & filled with errors.
The BIG puzzle: If god really wanted to convince people, why take the gold plates? Their existence would be all the proof JS needed.
@oncom2008 The only relevance Isaiah has to the BOM is that it was plagiarized (along with other Biblical books). If evidence of god is everywhere, why does 80% of the world not see it?
People point out the absurdities/errors in the BOM & the nutty LDS beliefs, but these are minor. The real questions are deeper: Why ask JS to restore the church then remove all proof? Why wait almost 2,000 yrs to act? Why did beliefs given by god change? Sorry but you can't make sense out of nonsense.
@smb12321 the 80% uses natural human logic. Limited with five senses. Beyond those limitations is nonsense. Keep asking for proof evidence. Joseph Smith has done beyond his limitations that are beyond your comprehension. So it becomes nonsense for you. God is beyond your limitation. It requires FAITH and HOPE.
You have no faith, you have no hope. Anything doesn’t satisfy your limited senses are false, fake etc...very subjective and nerrow minded.
@oncom2008 "Human logic" gave us medicine, cars & electricity. "Faith & hope" gave us the LDS. JS was quite imaginative - Men will be gods of their own planet, God lives near KOBOL with many wives, everything pre-existed, Jewish Indians, polygamy, Garden of Eden in MO, gold plates, 3 heavens, Jesus married, animals in heaven, vast civilizations that leaves zero evidence, dark skin is evil...need I go on?
Also, you never addressed my questions why god waited until the 19th century to act.
@smb12321 Car inventers they think beyond human logic, like THomas Edison, he did beyond human capacity. He had hope by keep trying with his experiment hundred times until he got electricity
." why god waited until the 19th century to act." I answered that already : Isaiah 55: 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD. oh you don't believe in God, do you?
@ScienceReasonBelief being a member of The LDS Church is not like becoming a member of a club or any secular group. This church is not a business, it is a service. A successful or not succesful missionaries are not based on how many they baptized. But how often their open their mouth to preach the name of Jesus Christ...
every tongue has confess, and every knee has to bow..
@jazzisaac22 Yeap, cause knowing the commandments will keep their hunger away, or will keep bacteria, viruses and parasites away, will bring peace and bla bla bla. Just grow up.
@jazzisaac22 Did you KNOW that the story of the commandments was taken from other religions? Did you know A LOT of the stories of the bible were taken from other religions?
I don't think my church is perfect, and Im not in 100% in agreement with entire religious doctrine, but I do think there is a reason behind this universe, and that reason was not empty space with millions of molecules coming together in an explosion, something made that happen.
If you don't think your church is perfect, why do you believe in it?
Just curious.
I mean, take it from a girl who grew up in the church, then seriously studied church history and doctrine only to be blindsided by things the church kept from me:
There is more evidence that the LDS church isn't what it claims to be than evidence for the belief in it's doctrine.
What is it that makes you so sure the LDS faith is correct... and the feeling you get when you pray doesn't count. Real evidence.
If a church who claims to have a prophet of God has such serious problems, what would it take to convince you that the prophet isn't a prophet at all?
I'm not trying to say that you have to believe in evolution or even answer my questions.. I'm just curious about the answers.
Wouldn't God go to his prophet and say, "Monson... this isn't right. You need to do this, say this, put money where it should go, apologize for this old doctrine." Yet none of that happens... Why?
Let's take just one example of the thousands that I could choose:
God: Monson, we need to go to the people of the world and tell them I never once said black skin was a curse from me. I never once said that black skin on the earth was because the devil needed representation on the earth (as a prophet once stated). We need to apologize for the racist statements and admit our past prophets were wrong. We need to make public amends.
Would a kind and loving God have ANYTHING to do with the racism that came out of the church in its early days?
Doesn't the belief that God actually DID say these things scream "God's a racist" to you?" I know the answer to that question is probably "no," because I was trained to think the same thing... but it IS racist.
According to the church, God has a mouthpiece on the earth. If He wants us to join the true church, why doesn't he utilize that mouthpiece and clear things up?
Heck, I don't agree or disagree with you. As far as Im concerned, where there is good, there is evil, and even a completely Atheistic world would have both, but we don't know how much.
I hope you know Einstein wasn't atheist. That is just assumed, since most atheists believe (in my opinion) that they are the only ones who make any scientific progress. He was very active and believed in a God. I hope you have found great peace in your choice friend even though I dont agree completely with you :)
If you do note that at least one of KP4's quotes is quotemined. He doesn't even give you the complete sentence that Franklin said. Ben Franklin was actually arguing for the broader benefits of Faith in the writing that KP truncates. The full sentence from Poor Richard's Alamanac is:
"The Way to see by Faith, is to shut the Eye of Reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer when you put out your Candle."
It is very clear from the context that it was a statement commending faith.
You also seem to like to read Ingersoll. He is one of the worst quote miners around. Note that if you ever see a quote from Magellan cited by atheists, it is a lie. Ingersoll wrote "I believe that Magellan said ..." . Unfortunately he was completely wrong about it. Nevertheless, you see that faked quote of Magellan circulating the internet, of course without Ingersoll's "I think" in front of it. Pretty sloppy of Ingersoll to get that wrong. You quote someone, you should be accurate.
I apologize if I got a quote off the internet that misquoted someone else. I don't see why you have to get so upset over it, though.
A polite, "You have given credit to the wrong person" or "You have this quote wrong, just want you to know" would suffice. Instead you come across as arrogant and well... rude.
Maybe if I were approached nicely about it I might care. Unfortunately for us, we will never know.
Well, it is hard in 500 characters to make sure to display the "proper emotion" I guess. Misquotes and false quotes are a pet peeve, I admit. But I don't think I said anything about your quotes. You were planning to make a new video after you saw Kasparhauser4's list of quotes. If you are honest, you might want to be forewarned about the quote mining example in his list that I pointed out. Same for the famous one in Ingersoll's writings.
You did in a sense misquote Einstein. He was not against religion and a general belief in a God or higher being. However in general, your video was fine (for atheists, I'm LDS, and was quite offended by it). The only thing I hate about some atheists (and I mean no offence), is they consider them selves high and mighty to say a person who believes in a God is dumb and can't make decisions without advice. If you do make another video, it would be nice if you left that out. :)
So sorry you were offended by my video, or the quotes in it, Model... but let me be the first to say that there are MANY beliefs in the LDS faith that are MORE than offensive to me.
Racism
Sexism
Polygamy
Milk Before Meat
Baptism for the Dead
Guess we will just have to keep on offending each other.
As for the quotes, I got them from a quote website and copied them as is. Even if they are misquotes or incomplete, I agree with the message they give... therefore they stay.
Well listen, Ive said what Ove said, and I don't intend my channel to be used for this. Even though you and I could argue forever about what's right and wrong, you stop a fight by not participating anymore. I do not intend to offend you, niether. That's another thing. Atheists say history proves religion is evil while they continue to fight and offend us while most of us don't fight back! And what does that prove? You're literally doing what religion did in the middle ages!
If you don't want to continue the discussion, thats fine. I just don't think you understand where atheists are coming from. You lump us all in together, much like you think we lump all religious people together.
The complaints most people have about atheists can be said about the people complaining.
Why would I take offense to someone claiming that some atheists consider themselves high and mighty when SO MANY religious people act the exact same way?
Funny how that works, isn't it?
I will keep what I think I should keep. You might think it would be nice for me to check in with people before I make my videos, but that's not really something I'm interested in.
Its also sad how it works too, and I hope you keep yourself humble. In my opinion, it's only the leader of a religion that acts high and mighty, while members of said religion will act more humble towards others
You think members of the LDS faith, including the leaders of the church are humble?
Really?
Is being totally convinced that they are right and everyone else is wrong... to the point that they take dead people and baptize them after they die without permission of family of said deceased person humble?
That is the opposite of humble.
A man claiming to be a prophet of God, without any proof of his being a prophet of God, and telling his church members to do as he says isn't humble either.
Some are and some aren't in my opinion. I practice Buddhism, but I still believe n my religion, and practice it regularly too. I just find it crazy you're judging people you don't know by what they believe. it's like you escribe atheism as a religion itslef, and I have no conflict with your beliefs but what you say of others.
So I say in the end, let there be no conflict and peace. That is the best example, and neither Mormons, Christians, or atheists are doing any better. :) best luck to you
Dude, I know what Mormons believe... I was raised in the religion and then I spent three years studying and learning everything I could about it. I am willing to place you a bet that I know tons more about it than you do... especially since you claim I don't know what I'm talking about when I do!
As usual, you totally bypass the questions (the direct questions about your prophet and the racist past) and go off on atheism.
@wintersfootsteps That's the point I have. Do you want an individual answer to all of them? But quit avoiding my question of why Atheism has to continue to show disrespect towards other. I d not wish to act arrogant if you think I have, and I'm sorry if I did in your eyes.
I'm wishing luck to your cause. You really have no right to say I'm arrogant.. Listen, on that road, you have lost a purpose in life and filled it with hate and no cause. And that's just too bad....
Well, if you really think that, it goes double for you to say someone is arrogant. I won't answer to someone who clearly doesn't want to hear an answer.....
If Monson asked you to do something, would you do it? I mean, he's a prophet of God to you, right? Why would or wouldn't you?
If you don't think your church is perfect, why do you believe in it?
If a church who claims to have a prophet of God has such serious problems, what would it take to convince you that the prophet isn't a prophet at all?
Would a kind and loving God have ANYTHING to do with the racism that came out of the church in its early days?
According to the church, God has a mouthpiece on the earth. If He wants us to join the true church, why doesn't he utilize that mouthpiece and clear things up?
God: Monson, we need to go to the people of the world and tell them I never once said black skin was a curse from me. We need to apologize for the racist statements and admit our past prophets were wrong. We need to make public amends.
Im just opinionating what I think you should change.Hell, one thing I cant understand about some atheists is they think we dont make our own choices. Same thing goes for the government then!Once you become military you basically sign over your rights. If you want to get a point through to the people you are trying to "help", act humble and give credit and discredit to both sides.
"If Jesus had been killed 20 years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little Electric Chairs around their necks instead of crosses"Lenny Bruce
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."....Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
Just remember though ... a dead guy who has been dead for almost 2,000 years now loves you!....me
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn.....that was fun!"
"Life in Lubbock, Texas taught me two things. One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, dirty thing on the face of the earth and you should save it for someone you love."
..........Butch Hancock
If I had been the Virgin Mary, I would have said "No."
..........Margaret Smith
"Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
Fantastic video. Thanks.
UEFIGuy 1 month ago
Thanks for producing/posting this!
lease2coach1 1 month ago
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I am living proof! ^^
clarissawantstoeatU 2 months ago
That was a good collection. I like all the Mark Twain quotes.
GenTobias 4 months ago
alot of these quotes got me thinking but all together this was a excellent video
jwats83 5 months ago
even though i am a Satanist, i truly do agree with most of this. the only thing i have a problem with is people saying if you're religious, it means you are less intelligent, and less human then an atheist. just because someone is religious doesn't mean they are cruel, or evil, or can't think for themselves, or a pawn of a cult or churches. some people simply need something to believe in more then themselves. and seeing the earth the way it is now, i agree, otherwise i would have killed myself
hiimquinn 5 months ago
The 2nd, "unknown" quote, is Christopher Hitchens I believe.
TheMagmagoblin 6 months ago
Great religion atheism is...on par with most.
NoWorries88 6 months ago
good collection. needs to up the resolution, as some of the cartoons were a challenge to read. that said, good job. i smiled.
1robopm 7 months ago
someone's probably already said, that unknown comment was from Steven Weinberg, nobel prize winner.
radroatch 7 months ago
Great video. I also was raised in the Mormon church. I agree with Mark Twain, the best cure for religion is the Bible. I find it funny that while watching this a google ad popped up for Liberty University.
eccles1984 7 months ago
@eccles1984 lol I got one for "Mid-America Christian University"
Alariceleven 1 month ago
With Mormonisms brainwashing mantra "WE ARE THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH" it is only natural 2 abandon their idolatry 4 atheism. God is not a man Numbers 23:19 God is a Spirit John 4:24 The invisible things of God R clearly seen, being understood by the things He has made Romans 1. God does not know of any God that exists, besides Himself Isaiah 43:10,11 44:6-8,24 God declares the end from the beginning. Only a real God can declare with total accuracy things that will happen in the future Revelation etc
1stcorinthians1vrs18 7 months ago
Wow, so you went straight from the church to atheist? It truly doesn't take much for Satan to snare someone once you budge even the least. Strangely, I should thank you...your story has solidified my testimony.
SpencerLJensen 7 months ago
Thanks wintersfootsteps, this video brought a smile to my face. For humanism, and the enlightenment!
SirKickz 8 months ago
Brilliant and underated video
4dsouzaluiz 8 months ago
To the uploader: why are there quotes attributed to "unknown" in this vid?
Google is your friend! :-P
hack451 8 months ago
Loved the video.As a side note, where does google get the right to place adds on my viewing screen I am tired of all the adds they put up to block our view.As much as I hate to say it, maybe the government should step in to regulate like they did with the telemarketers
dan69052 8 months ago
good video aand to the point
otherworldtrader1 8 months ago
can i get a text version of this?
Unguidedone 9 months ago
Do you live the Standards of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ?
mollymu1 9 months ago
a mental connection of ideas
maybe we should associate atheism with ice cream?
just a thought lol..
8Zeitgeist 9 months ago
Great video! Most feel the truth but are not brave enough to leave their church, families and culture. It's tough and gut wrenching to potentially lose this connection and loss of faith. Stick with it it is worth it. We should never have to live in fear from man or gods period. 2000 years of mental abuse is slowly coming to an end and hopefully before it's to late.
corktech 9 months ago
whats is say at 6:10
Ribcage88 10 months ago
wow only 8 mormons have seen this? my faith in humanity has been restored
23bloodbath 10 months ago
it still amuses me how many atheists are atheists on christian terms. Although it annoys me slightly that the majority of times when they mock other paths it is still on christian terms. If the atheist world view is what keeps you getting up in the morning then good. But you need to progress from ex-"faith" to atheist if that is what you are doing.
scurvofpcp 10 months ago
@scurvofpcp What do you mean, "on christian terms"? Not believing in any gods is not a "Path". Is your path defined by not believing in Vishnu?
no2religions 9 months ago
@no2religions Is my path defined by not beliveing in Vishnu,good question. But if it is or is not. I do not use terms and viewpoints from a path i do not follow to express my viewpoints on the world. Many Athiests I have met activly seek out people of faith to evangelize to them the virtues of there own view point. Like a un-named faith we all know.Why not spend it on advanceing your own life? expend some effort on explaining quantam entaglement, dark matter and life orgians.or enjoy life.
scurvofpcp 9 months ago
@no2religions As far as lack of belife in gods being a path. it only is when you choose to contex it to spirtual paths. Athiest is a term that defines people who do not belive in gods, So that kinda makes it its own path, Or in effect a way that the meat sacks we are can expend our time and effort. But insted of furthering Life in a positive manor, I see many athiests who seek to wast time and life on others who may or may not be write, we are all mortal and our days number in the thousands.
scurvofpcp 9 months ago
@scurvofpcp So, is your path determined by your lack of belief in Vishnu? Following a "Path" is something you do. Atheism is something that you don't think. Not thinking something isn't a do.
Certainly there are a lot of time-wasting atheists, but this is in no way specific to or more prevalent among non religious people. Remember, to myself, and likely many other atheists, religious practice is a complete waste of time (at best).
All claims may or may not be right.
no2religions 9 months ago
@no2religions yea, I will buy that to a point. But most people of faith i know spend no time investing in it, they are it in name only. Save a few thumpers. And any more I see more athiest thumpers then i do christian thumpers. My observation only i admit. But take it for what its worth. I would look foward to debateing you some time actualy.
scurvofpcp 9 months ago
@scurvofpcp " I see more athiest thumpers then i do christian thumpers." You can't be serious.
Debate what?
no2religions 9 months ago
Im and Atheist, some label me as an Ex Mormon... i was born into it and was brain washed by it. My journey was long but who i am today WOW i could never have been this happy if i held on to stupid ideas that forbade me to live my life because i was supposed to be worried about what happens after life.
Its never ok to believe something just because and its not ok to not believe something just because either. Study leads to knowledge and knowledge is Key. If onl we all people used their brains
MyViolet666 10 months ago
The second quote, "Good people do good things..." - is from Steve Weinberg ;)
ElDuorPaso 11 months ago
I totally did the same thing after leaving the Catholic brainwashing machine. I have a list of my fav quotes that I keep adding to. Love your list!! =)
anetchi 11 months ago
@5:44
Newscholar 11 months ago
Great job Winterfootsteps, as an exCatholic with a sister who converted to Mormonism, I applaud your courage to think for yourself.
tarzanmorrison 11 months ago
Thank you so very much for posting this. And please, don't let those silly believers out there bother you.
thetoddsmith 1 year ago
Former Mormon AND fundie here. Keep up the Good Work of the reasoned mind.
rounder421 1 year ago
Great quotes.
dkw12002 1 year ago
so, are you done thinking? :)
imckbe 1 year ago
This totally kicks ass. Nice job! Great music too. Kudos! :)
NorwayRichard 1 year ago
This video really made me smile, thanks for that. I found some of the quotes quite profound and I will keep referring to this video from time to time because it's awesome. I have made the leap from Christianity to none, and have been very happy since. It's a long journey of self discovery and I, like others, have to laugh now because I can also say, "If you would've told me __ years ago I'd be an x (enter religion) id've called you crazy!" And here I am! Who would've thought? Peace.
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Great video!
grozde 1 year ago
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Great video, thank you!
grozde 1 year ago
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Great video, thank you!
grozde 1 year ago
I believe the second quote belongs to Steven Weinberg, 1999.
Great video, thank you!
grozde 1 year ago
I don't get why you feel the need to make this video? To make sure that there are other ppl out there that feel the same way you do ? Perhaps to validate your own feelings?
Or is the video a proselytizing type video. To show other LDS ppl that there is something else out there ?
In any case I enjoyed your video. And I am in no way coming down on you.
One of the best Quips I have heard is
"By the Spirit of the Holy Teleprompter"
Now you have to smile at that ! :)
GL to you in whatever you do.
EarlRausch 1 year ago
@EarlRausch
I think most critics of the Mormon church are there because they feel that as long as the Mormons proselytize their faith, others might as well try to help Mormons realize there's a better way out there. That's prob why he made the video. :)
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
I can't believe it took so long to find this great video. I love it! There were very sobering quotes like "Men never to evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do if from religious conviction." It is extremely sad statement, only because it is true. Other quotes I found hysterical. After I realized the stupid and false delusion of the mormon church (just a few months ago after 40+ years as an active mormon), I can now laugh at my once sacred-held beliefs. I am an exmormon... soon.
pinkrain2010 1 year ago
oh please, jazzi? I am religious myself, but at least I don't judge. you should understand that God in himself is the one according to your religion who is there to judge, and Man is NOT God, therefor, you are not in position to judge. Life is a trial, we all do life differently, right?
and if he's happy in life, then no God can judge him for that. and if a God wanted us to not do anything wrong, not question him, then he wouldn't have given us a mind to think with.
btw, I am Mormon.
MissGarngel 1 year ago
5:41 to 5:49 is just GENIUS - great vid!
gorgobar 1 year ago
The most confusing thing as a Non-Theist (Humanist) is watching people of faith argue over different branches of the same Religion. Often truly minute differences... I cant help but to think "You dislike me for questioning the very fabric of your beliefs, and I accept that. But what the hell do you have to argue with each other about?"
NebojsaAlexandrovsk 1 year ago
Nicely done. Thoroughly enjoyed it!
llew430 1 year ago
the "unknown" quote at 0:17 is Steven Weinberg I'm pretty sure.
BiggestOfDaddies 1 year ago
Song -------Home - "sleep station"
Great quotes. The graph at 5:46 is the greatest.
TheNubbbler 1 year ago
What is the song in the video called? Please respond, as I really like it.
asargentb 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing this... as an exmormon I can say that I investigated the church and found it all to be a complete hoax based on Joseph Smith's desire for money and women. Any organization that asks you to believe in it based on feelings and not facts is patently bogus.
saucie17 1 year ago
@wintersfootsteps
Great quotes! More thumbs up for you.
iqlusionblogspot 1 year ago
what's the name of the song?
farts0with0the0stars 1 year ago
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farts0with0the0stars 1 year ago
I love this. Very good quotes. I believe there is a God, but not one that anyone or anything can comprehend, so I don't try. I think Religion, any religion, is more harmful than good. If I wasn't brainwashed when I was a child, I probably would be an atheist.
sherrimule 1 year ago
The Book of Mormon is chloroform in print. - Mark Twain.
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. - Bertrand Russell.
The more the fruits of knowledge become accessible to men, the more widespread is the decline of religious belief. - Sigmund Freud.
Great atheist quotes. I enjoyed them as an exmormon atheist.
JuggalocodeChile1988 1 year ago
As an ex-mormon, I find these quotes to be so true and comforting. Mormonism installs guilt for doing things natural by human nature. It doesn't matter what science says, mormonism teaches not to question its teachings. The truth set me free and the sooner I opened my mind, the sooner I started living a happy life.
roxychica33 1 year ago
As a pious mormon, my mind was permanantly damaged. I am a recovering mormon. Comforted by the fact I'm not alone.
porkramen21 1 year ago
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why would someone put so much time and effort into a video like this? you may hate mormons buddy, but while you were making this video missionaries all over the world were teaching the commandments of god to entire families :)
jazzisaac22 1 year ago
@jazzisaac22 Study the religion, jazzisaac22. Really study it. Not just the stuff they tell you on Sunday. After you really do that, we will talk.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago 9
@wintersfootsteps I already do that buddy, that's why this bothers me so much
jazzisaac22 1 year ago
@jazzisaac22 please go study your EVIL DISGUSTING SEXIST and STUPID IGNORANT religion and then think about it i know my request is futile but if your not closeminded then you will and if your not closeminded then you WILL leave the religion
patrickledford420 1 year ago
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@wintersfootsteps I already do buddy, that's why I'm your rebellion againts heavenly father kinda bothers me, I say kinda cause each man shall be judged for his own works, but wow... do you remember Laman and Lamuel? an angel appeared and ministered unto them and still they had no faith.
jazzisaac22 1 year ago
@jazzisaac22 Why do you keep calling me "buddy?" Do you think I'm a boy?
I am not rebelling, I am speaking the truth. If you have really studied the history of the church and the doctrine you would see what I am talking about. Until then, you can have your opinion and I can have mine.
I don't need you to "save" me, nor do I need to worry myself with what you think about me or my video. This is a collection of quotes for fellow ex-Mormons like myself. Don't watch if it bugs you so much.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago 28
@wintersfootsteps I'm glad you don't need me to save you cause I certainly can't :) only you can save yourself through the atonement of our savior... believe me I won't watch your ridiculous video again.
jazzisaac22 1 year ago
@wintersfootsteps I just wanna say that everything I said was wrong and I apologize, I was the one being a moron with these comments and I shoulda studied a little harder before I said anything... I apologize wintersfootsteps :)
jazzisaac22 1 year ago
@wintersfootsteps
You know its pointless, :) with every argument he makes he just sounds stupider :)
MyViolet666 10 months ago
@jazzisaac22 your "heavenly" father should be rideculed with complete disgust why dont you go read numbers31:1-18 and call him "good" if you still think so after reading what he COMMANDS in that passage then please call the mental institute and go live in it
patrickledford420 1 year ago
@jazzisaac22
The "those who disagree with us are bigots" approach is really catching on in the LDS Church and it is patently silly. If a leading democrat claimed that the republican opposition was just a bunch of haters, all sensible people would roll their eyes or laugh.
Where free speech is permitted, ideas will be questioned and ridiculed--and there's nothing hateful about shooting down bad ideas. That's what you're trying to do too, after all.
iqlusionblogspot 1 year ago
@jazzisaac22 the guy said to not watch it if you'd get offended, and he explained his motives quite well, before anything remotely offensive started, why did you watch it?
electorg 1 year ago
@jazzisaac22
well, actually... your baptism rate is really down. when I was on my mission (1989) most missionaries baptized an average of 8 people during their mission... now it's less than half that. this is from the Church's own numbers. in 1990 there were approx 320K convert baptisms with 30K missionaries... last I checked there were 240K converts from 51K missionaries.
I don't hate Mormons... but a little humility would be appropriate. :)
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Like Jesus, he was not respected by his own people. Same thing to all prophet.
By the way, Mormons are not only in the USA. I am from Indonesia, big Muslim country. I was a muslim now I am LDS. I served my mission and baptized more than 75 people in my mission. Now Mormons has more member out side USA, especially in South America.
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008
75 people? Suuuuure you did.
Anyhow, regardless of how many people you baptized, it's still a false religion. DNA disproves the Book of Mormon, as does it's many anachronisms (things that don't belong in that time period, yet they're in the BofM).
The real numbers are declining. Mormon church doesn't remove them from the member lists unless specifically asked to do so. But for every 5 that leave, only 4 join. Trouble ahead!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief You may have your opinion. Just be open minded. Be objective.
Less or more membership don't prove truth, and I don't think the church is false based on your opinion.
You are looking at negative side, all there is to it. I look at both.
You still not answering my question. Perhaps you don't have any truth.
Ex-Mormons just telling their side of story. Have you checked FARM?
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008
I've looked at it, but FARMS has no real credibility. No scientist or reseacher outside the Mormon church believes in their stuff. FARMS' research always begins with the desired end result in mind.
You're wrong in thinking that I only look at the negative. The Mormon chuch does do some good things.
However, less membership is a sign that there's something wrong with the fundmentals of a religion.
You didn't ask me a question, that's why I didn't answer.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I was asking you a question; What is the truth? You don't answer may be you haven't got one yet. If you were a mormon you'll understand what happen to the Church Of Jesus Christ during the new testament. Were they a big church with big membership? A lot of people witnessing his ministry and all miracles.Were those miracles making them become Christians?Are those evidences have made them believers?
Yeah right, you don't have negative thing about Mormons.
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008
You didn't ask me what is truth before. This is the first time. I don't think that truth comes from a God, if that's what you're trying to get at.
"Yeah right, you don't..."
You can think what you like, but an attitude like yours isn't going to get you very far.
Oh, yeah, and it's obvious to anyone with some knowledge about the Mormons that it IS a big business. 10 Billion per year big.... what a waste.
"Every tongue confess"... pure fairy tale.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Some Mormons are wealthy like any other successful people. They are some big investors, but they are not affiliated with Church. Perhaps they pay big tithing.In my opinion, The LDS Chrch is the only church that has no problem again science. The church teaches that every material in this universe are alway exists. The creation is not from nothing to be some thing. The creation was putting together or organizing all the existing formula, elements and properties Etc..
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008
I'm not talking about Mormon investors. I'm talking about the 10 Billion that the Mormon church brings in thru tithing and also it's many businesses. How can you possibly not be aware of this???
The Mormons DO have issues with science. They ignore science when it proves that the Book of Mormon is false. They ignore it when it comes to gays & they discriminate.
Don't try to tell me stuff about the church. I was a member for many years, and that's why I got out. It made me sick.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Oh I see now. You have personal issue with gays issue.
My opinion, we do not discriminate. In reality of relationship, man loves man is different than man loves woman. The science prove it that needs a man and a woman in procreation. We stand for what we believe and you stand with yours. Gays getting married, that's fine. But still they need a woman womb in order to have a baby. Oh man.. you such a handsome man, you broke so many beautiful girl's hearts..
You like surfing?
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008
Sorry, but you DO discriminate. The science shows that being gay is just as natural as being hetero. If it's fine for gays to marry, then they shouldn't have gotten involved with it politically. Politics and religion don't mix!
Don't be stupid... I have a "personal issue" with ANY wrong thing the Mormon church has done... not just gays. They also discriminated against blacks for many years, and they still discriminate against their women, just like Catholics do. Pathetic & sick.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief so you have bigger personal issues than I thought.
The Church is focusing to hold traditional marriage. The members are simply applying what Christ teaches in the scriptures. Nothing to do with politics. I am not white, but I have no problem with that. Because I believe God is a creator of the universe including the inhabitants there in. In my prospetve both gay and hetero are natural but I don't think they are the same. So you think they both the same?
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008
You sound so foolish claiming that these are "personal issues". These issues are of importance to anyone who cares about equality for everyone, and is concerned about the murk of religion. Your so-called "scriptures" are interfering with politics, and that's the problem. Do you not understand that? Or is that beyond your comprehension?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
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@ScienceReasonBelief Perhaps you are right and I realize when I read the scripture and find this in 1 Cor 2
14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Also in Mosiah 3:19 about natural man
Now I understand why the way you are now.. and I am not trying to prove anything here. So you know my perspective teh way than I am now.
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oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008 Marriage existed (and exists) in cultures not believing in your particular version of god. LDS members are not applying what Christ (his name was Jesus by the way) teaches since JS is studied far more than Jesus.
What does it say about the LDS when its leaders were so convinced that JS was a charlatan that they pad off Hoffman for his forged documents? Why, if JS was a prophet, would they do this repeatedly? That would trouble me deeply.
smb12321 1 year ago
@smb12321 I am thankful for "Mormon culture" if Islam culture gay and lesbian are completely disgraced.
America is the most loving country where your right are more protected. Correction, Joseph Smith doesn't study far more than Jesus. Jesus Christ is using him as uneducated 14 yo boy to restore all things. Yes, I am sure you already. God wants us to reach our full potentials. I believe Being gay will satisfy you, but you re not reaching your full potential by redefining marriage.
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008 Sorry but your reply was slightly incoherent. I've always wondered why Jesus came to America when his visit was such a disaster. If god wanted to restore the church he sure went about it in a strange way. A Jewish Indian leaves gold plates for a NY hick to translate a document that is unintentionally hilarious & filled with errors.
The BIG puzzle: If god really wanted to convince people, why take the gold plates? Their existence would be all the proof JS needed.
smb12321 1 year ago
@smb12321 Isaiah 55: 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.
proofs don't change anything. My point exactly! God bless you with free agency.
The evidence of God existence are every where... still you don't believe in Him.
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008 The only relevance Isaiah has to the BOM is that it was plagiarized (along with other Biblical books). If evidence of god is everywhere, why does 80% of the world not see it?
People point out the absurdities/errors in the BOM & the nutty LDS beliefs, but these are minor. The real questions are deeper: Why ask JS to restore the church then remove all proof? Why wait almost 2,000 yrs to act? Why did beliefs given by god change? Sorry but you can't make sense out of nonsense.
smb12321 1 year ago
@smb12321 the 80% uses natural human logic. Limited with five senses. Beyond those limitations is nonsense. Keep asking for proof evidence. Joseph Smith has done beyond his limitations that are beyond your comprehension. So it becomes nonsense for you. God is beyond your limitation. It requires FAITH and HOPE.
You have no faith, you have no hope. Anything doesn’t satisfy your limited senses are false, fake etc...very subjective and nerrow minded.
oncom2008 1 year ago
@oncom2008 "Human logic" gave us medicine, cars & electricity. "Faith & hope" gave us the LDS. JS was quite imaginative - Men will be gods of their own planet, God lives near KOBOL with many wives, everything pre-existed, Jewish Indians, polygamy, Garden of Eden in MO, gold plates, 3 heavens, Jesus married, animals in heaven, vast civilizations that leaves zero evidence, dark skin is evil...need I go on?
Also, you never addressed my questions why god waited until the 19th century to act.
smb12321 1 year ago
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@smb12321 Car inventers they think beyond human logic, like THomas Edison, he did beyond human capacity. He had hope by keep trying with his experiment hundred times until he got electricity
." why god waited until the 19th century to act." I answered that already : Isaiah 55: 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD. oh you don't believe in God, do you?
oncom2008 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief being a member of The LDS Church is not like becoming a member of a club or any secular group. This church is not a business, it is a service. A successful or not succesful missionaries are not based on how many they baptized. But how often their open their mouth to preach the name of Jesus Christ...
every tongue has confess, and every knee has to bow..
oncom2008 1 year ago
@jazzisaac22 Yeap, cause knowing the commandments will keep their hunger away, or will keep bacteria, viruses and parasites away, will bring peace and bla bla bla. Just grow up.
ahmedeox 1 year ago
@jazzisaac22 So were muslim missionaries. And pagans and hindus.....
no2religions 9 months ago
@jazzisaac22 Did you KNOW that the story of the commandments was taken from other religions? Did you know A LOT of the stories of the bible were taken from other religions?
feuchster 7 months ago
I don't think my church is perfect, and Im not in 100% in agreement with entire religious doctrine, but I do think there is a reason behind this universe, and that reason was not empty space with millions of molecules coming together in an explosion, something made that happen.
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
If you don't think your church is perfect, why do you believe in it?
Just curious.
I mean, take it from a girl who grew up in the church, then seriously studied church history and doctrine only to be blindsided by things the church kept from me:
There is more evidence that the LDS church isn't what it claims to be than evidence for the belief in it's doctrine.
What is it that makes you so sure the LDS faith is correct... and the feeling you get when you pray doesn't count. Real evidence.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
If a church who claims to have a prophet of God has such serious problems, what would it take to convince you that the prophet isn't a prophet at all?
I'm not trying to say that you have to believe in evolution or even answer my questions.. I'm just curious about the answers.
Wouldn't God go to his prophet and say, "Monson... this isn't right. You need to do this, say this, put money where it should go, apologize for this old doctrine." Yet none of that happens... Why?
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Let's take just one example of the thousands that I could choose:
God: Monson, we need to go to the people of the world and tell them I never once said black skin was a curse from me. I never once said that black skin on the earth was because the devil needed representation on the earth (as a prophet once stated). We need to apologize for the racist statements and admit our past prophets were wrong. We need to make public amends.
Wouldn't a kind God do/say this?
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Would a kind and loving God have ANYTHING to do with the racism that came out of the church in its early days?
Doesn't the belief that God actually DID say these things scream "God's a racist" to you?" I know the answer to that question is probably "no," because I was trained to think the same thing... but it IS racist.
According to the church, God has a mouthpiece on the earth. If He wants us to join the true church, why doesn't he utilize that mouthpiece and clear things up?
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Heck, I don't agree or disagree with you. As far as Im concerned, where there is good, there is evil, and even a completely Atheistic world would have both, but we don't know how much.
I hope you know Einstein wasn't atheist. That is just assumed, since most atheists believe (in my opinion) that they are the only ones who make any scientific progress. He was very active and believed in a God. I hope you have found great peace in your choice friend even though I dont agree completely with you :)
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
Great video.
Very nice quotes you have collected :)
ecidemon1 2 years ago
Good stuff.
Make the world a better place.
Become an Atheist today.
BCT071 2 years ago
"When you understand why you dismiss ..." quote is by Stephen Roberts. Enjoyed the video :)
subfusca26 2 years ago
"With or without religion ...." quote is by Stephen Weinberg.
hal2017 2 years ago
Damn, now I have to make another video ;)
Nice quotes.
wintersfootsteps 2 years ago
If you do note that at least one of KP4's quotes is quotemined. He doesn't even give you the complete sentence that Franklin said. Ben Franklin was actually arguing for the broader benefits of Faith in the writing that KP truncates. The full sentence from Poor Richard's Alamanac is:
"The Way to see by Faith, is to shut the Eye of Reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer when you put out your Candle."
It is very clear from the context that it was a statement commending faith.
sarabellumm 2 years ago
You also seem to like to read Ingersoll. He is one of the worst quote miners around. Note that if you ever see a quote from Magellan cited by atheists, it is a lie. Ingersoll wrote "I believe that Magellan said ..." . Unfortunately he was completely wrong about it. Nevertheless, you see that faked quote of Magellan circulating the internet, of course without Ingersoll's "I think" in front of it. Pretty sloppy of Ingersoll to get that wrong. You quote someone, you should be accurate.
sarabellumm 2 years ago
You seem quite angry, sarabellumm.
I apologize if I got a quote off the internet that misquoted someone else. I don't see why you have to get so upset over it, though.
A polite, "You have given credit to the wrong person" or "You have this quote wrong, just want you to know" would suffice. Instead you come across as arrogant and well... rude.
Maybe if I were approached nicely about it I might care. Unfortunately for us, we will never know.
wintersfootsteps 2 years ago
Well, it is hard in 500 characters to make sure to display the "proper emotion" I guess. Misquotes and false quotes are a pet peeve, I admit. But I don't think I said anything about your quotes. You were planning to make a new video after you saw Kasparhauser4's list of quotes. If you are honest, you might want to be forewarned about the quote mining example in his list that I pointed out. Same for the famous one in Ingersoll's writings.
sarabellumm 2 years ago
@wintersfootsteps
You did in a sense misquote Einstein. He was not against religion and a general belief in a God or higher being. However in general, your video was fine (for atheists, I'm LDS, and was quite offended by it). The only thing I hate about some atheists (and I mean no offence), is they consider them selves high and mighty to say a person who believes in a God is dumb and can't make decisions without advice. If you do make another video, it would be nice if you left that out. :)
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
So sorry you were offended by my video, or the quotes in it, Model... but let me be the first to say that there are MANY beliefs in the LDS faith that are MORE than offensive to me.
Racism
Sexism
Polygamy
Milk Before Meat
Baptism for the Dead
Guess we will just have to keep on offending each other.
As for the quotes, I got them from a quote website and copied them as is. Even if they are misquotes or incomplete, I agree with the message they give... therefore they stay.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Well listen, Ive said what Ove said, and I don't intend my channel to be used for this. Even though you and I could argue forever about what's right and wrong, you stop a fight by not participating anymore. I do not intend to offend you, niether. That's another thing. Atheists say history proves religion is evil while they continue to fight and offend us while most of us don't fight back! And what does that prove? You're literally doing what religion did in the middle ages!
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
Religion can be evil.
The crusades
Waco
COUNTLESS other examples...
"Atheists say history proves religion is evil," isn't a true statement. We claim religion can be evil. There is historical evidence to this.
Religion molds the minds of the believers, to the point that they are willing to do anything their leaders say.
If Monson asked you to do something, would you do it? I mean, he's a prophet of God to you, right? Why would or wouldn't you?
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
If you don't want to continue the discussion, thats fine. I just don't think you understand where atheists are coming from. You lump us all in together, much like you think we lump all religious people together.
The complaints most people have about atheists can be said about the people complaining.
Just saying.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Why would I take offense to someone claiming that some atheists consider themselves high and mighty when SO MANY religious people act the exact same way?
Funny how that works, isn't it?
I will keep what I think I should keep. You might think it would be nice for me to check in with people before I make my videos, but that's not really something I'm interested in.
Thanks for watching.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Its also sad how it works too, and I hope you keep yourself humble. In my opinion, it's only the leader of a religion that acts high and mighty, while members of said religion will act more humble towards others
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
You think members of the LDS faith, including the leaders of the church are humble?
Really?
Is being totally convinced that they are right and everyone else is wrong... to the point that they take dead people and baptize them after they die without permission of family of said deceased person humble?
That is the opposite of humble.
A man claiming to be a prophet of God, without any proof of his being a prophet of God, and telling his church members to do as he says isn't humble either.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Members of a religion do as their leader instructs, sometimes without thought.
Are you saying that your church leaders are not humble? I would agree with you, but I'm just curious.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Some are and some aren't in my opinion. I practice Buddhism, but I still believe n my religion, and practice it regularly too. I just find it crazy you're judging people you don't know by what they believe. it's like you escribe atheism as a religion itslef, and I have no conflict with your beliefs but what you say of others.
So I say in the end, let there be no conflict and peace. That is the best example, and neither Mormons, Christians, or atheists are doing any better. :) best luck to you
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
You are hilarious.
Dude, I know what Mormons believe... I was raised in the religion and then I spent three years studying and learning everything I could about it. I am willing to place you a bet that I know tons more about it than you do... especially since you claim I don't know what I'm talking about when I do!
As usual, you totally bypass the questions (the direct questions about your prophet and the racist past) and go off on atheism.
Are you willing to answer the questions?
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
I did not bypass any questions. I don't practice Mormonism as much, I'm just pissed at how you react towards religion directly
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
Then will you answer the questions?
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
@wintersfootsteps That's the point I have. Do you want an individual answer to all of them? But quit avoiding my question of why Atheism has to continue to show disrespect towards other. I d not wish to act arrogant if you think I have, and I'm sorry if I did in your eyes.
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
@ModelbuildingTANKS religion gets no respect because it gives none
patrickledford420 1 year ago
I am judging those who put themselves out there as religious leaders. ALL of them, not just Mormon leaders.
Why is that a bad thing? These are the people who love to hold others accountable for their actions, yet usually fail to follow the same rules.
Best of luck to you, too. You have no idea how arrogant you are.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
I'm wishing luck to your cause. You really have no right to say I'm arrogant.. Listen, on that road, you have lost a purpose in life and filled it with hate and no cause. And that's just too bad....
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
You are arrogant, I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Oh, and yes... I would love an answer to each individual question. That is why I asked individual questions.
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
@wintersfootsteps
Well, if you really think that, it goes double for you to say someone is arrogant. I won't answer to someone who clearly doesn't want to hear an answer.....
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
If I didn't want the answer I wouldn't have asked the questions...
Would I?
Please answer them. Let me restate:
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
If Monson asked you to do something, would you do it? I mean, he's a prophet of God to you, right? Why would or wouldn't you?
If you don't think your church is perfect, why do you believe in it?
If a church who claims to have a prophet of God has such serious problems, what would it take to convince you that the prophet isn't a prophet at all?
Would a kind and loving God have ANYTHING to do with the racism that came out of the church in its early days?
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
According to the church, God has a mouthpiece on the earth. If He wants us to join the true church, why doesn't he utilize that mouthpiece and clear things up?
God: Monson, we need to go to the people of the world and tell them I never once said black skin was a curse from me. We need to apologize for the racist statements and admit our past prophets were wrong. We need to make public amends.
Wouldn't a kind God do/say this?
wintersfootsteps 1 year ago
Im just opinionating what I think you should change.Hell, one thing I cant understand about some atheists is they think we dont make our own choices. Same thing goes for the government then!Once you become military you basically sign over your rights. If you want to get a point through to the people you are trying to "help", act humble and give credit and discredit to both sides.
ModelbuildingTANKS 1 year ago
Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." - Isaac Asimov
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin
Faith is believing what you know ain't so.". Mark Twain "
Believing in gods always causes confusion.Pearl S. Buck
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered.
Religion is answers that may never be questioned. ."Unknown
KasparHauser4 2 years ago
"If Jesus had been killed 20 years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little Electric Chairs around their necks instead of crosses"Lenny Bruce
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."....Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
Just remember though ... a dead guy who has been dead for almost 2,000 years now loves you!....me
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn.....that was fun!"
KasparHauser4 2 years ago
Men will wrangle for religion; write for it; fight for it; die for
it; anything but live for it.
..........Charles Caleb Colton
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion."
..........Robert M. Pirsig
KasparHauser4 2 years ago
"Life in Lubbock, Texas taught me two things. One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, dirty thing on the face of the earth and you should save it for someone you love."
..........Butch Hancock
If I had been the Virgin Mary, I would have said "No."
..........Margaret Smith
"Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
..........Bertrand Russell
KasparHauser4 2 years ago
"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means."..George Bernard Shaw
KasparHauser4 2 years ago