Richard Wiseman Magic Square

[Maheshlic]

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[ajump08]

He must be really good at soduku , some serious mental math power to visualize all of that in your head

[viper19861986]

This is THE best "math magic" ever :)

This and few others are amazing.

My favorite trick to show people.

Sadly i only know 3 patterns in my head, i should more...

[wvandael]

@viper19861986 Well, If you know 3 DIFFERENT patterns, you can easily disguise that by using e.g. rotations or mirroring your mental picture

[viper19861986]

@wvandael hahah yeah i am retarded, why i never thought of that, i don't know.

I use that for the tic-tac-toe prediction trick all the time :S

[pianodemon66]

hmm.. Started off very well,very derren brown-ish. That, However, was not enough I don't think: Really, he needed a way of doing it without them Telling him their number. Yeah, maybe he could have asked them to think of a 2 digit number with both digits odd and both digits different. do that now. So, now you've done that. make sure that every digit is odd, not Even. i hope so Very much that Every one of you will go and look back over this comment Now. and notice the capital letters. was i right?

[MagicSantaClaus]

Hey--this guy is doing MY act!

Magic Santa Claus

Loch David Crane

[GhostOfRory]

Very nice, but it's more effective if they don't TELL you their number.

Any of the usual methods to obtain it are used, and you make several "guesses" but alas you cannot work it out.

That's when you reveal that all sides...etc add up to the previously only thought of number.

[6thCreated]

i can barely understand a word this guy is saying in the vid. get better microphones or something.

[Maheshlic]

It is good. Actually any 4x4 magic square has 86 patterns or properties. he was only referring to it. good.

[boberington]

No but the opposite pairs do...I think that's what he meant i.e. 67+3+12+6 and 11+68+5+4

[Domino9592]

67+2+3+70 doesn't equal 88 at all. Everything else adds up though.

[WHITESrBACK]

well spotted

[janotte]

7+12+9+6 != 88 either

[GhostOfRory]

He never says it does.

[nitrocan]

11 8 x-21 2

x-20 1 12 7

4 x-19 6 9

5 10 3 x-18

thats the formula, enjoy

[sivameena54]

thanks friend.

[gates531]

sorry, that cannot be the formula: 12 + 7 + 6 + 9 has to sum up to x (according to 3:58), which it only will for x = 34.

[zifferinolpm]

Actually you are close but it is:

8 11 (x-20) 1

(x-21) 2 7 12

3 (x-18) 9 6

10 5 4 (x-19)

Where x is the number named.

Actually, you were way off!

[osamajamal]

i think it was prepared b4 to say 88 , and he know how to solve the 88 , the one who chose 88 was one of his crew

if hw said 69 for example will he solve it?

i doupt

[deanbaird]

Put down the haterade, osamajamal. You DID see the beginning where he throws a wad of paper into a room of 800 conference attendees, did you not? And you saw that person toss the wad, and the catcher tossed it again. The year before, he did the same trick and the number was not 88! Any number between 35 and 90 will work just fine.

[RikimaruTheHulk]

If they said 69, the solution would be 8 - 11 - 49 - 1 48 - 2 - 7 - 12 3 - 51 - 9 - 6 10 - 5 - 4 - 50 Of course there are still 2 combinations that only add up properly if the Sum number is 34. It's an incredibly simple "trick"; Magic Squares are nothing more than a normal mathmatical occurence. The Normal Magic Sqaure would read 8 - 11 - 14 - 1 13 - 2 - 7 - 12 3 - 16 - 9 - 6 10 - 5 - 4 - 15 Whatever number is called, you increase 13 through 16 by the difference of 34.

[6thCreated]

see that's were man is so confused. the math IS the magic. no tricks just a universe.

[displayday101]

to retards:

its not a sudoku square, its a magic square..

numbers in colunms rows and diagonal equal the same number each

[ekko]

There is a simpel trick behind that...you dont need to calculate...and he isnt...look better at the figures and their constellation

[NickRiviera]

that was pretty impressive *wow*

[jhnggg]

7+12+9+6 isn't 88

[xxMettiXX]

yeah retard.. its 20

[Xxx4evamorxxX]

yeah, but wiseman says it does add up to 88, dumbass.

[janotte]

7+12+9+6 = 20??????

What school did you go to?

[xxMettiXX]

what is this school u speak of?

[greatslyfer]

he must be like a super computer, how can he put all those numbers to 88? he solved more than a sudoku and bonus in less than 2 min

[sinsearch]

Impressive

[2terence2jones]

agreed.

[billieandbrucerule]

soz i get it now!!!!!!!!!!

[billieandbrucerule]

i dont get it?????????

[deanbaird]

Wow crookedletterk, what a burden it must be for you being so sparklingly brilliant. You've been there, done that, and thumbed your nose at the T-shirt. Nothing surprises you and you're bothered by the hoopleheads you're forced to share the planet with. Gotta be rough, man; gotta be rough. Be strong and do your best to endure our ignorance and the ease with which we are amazed. We'll do our best not to tuant you a second time.

[crookedletterk]

Yeah, it is lonely on top. I'm glad somebody understands. :) Thanks for the encouraging and well-put insult; I wasn't aware that I came off like that. Sorry I expected more from the TAM audience.

[deanbaird]

1. As they say in The Princess Bride, "Get used to disappointment."

2. In a room of 800, the silence of the unimpressed is masked by the ebullience of the impressed. The eye-rolls of the underwhelmed went uncaptured by my amateur videography. Sit next to me at the next TAM and I'll endeavor to end such shots with a close up of your glare of disapproval.

[crookedletterk]

I appreciated your reply until the last sentence. Perhaps my previous apology & self-defense was a bit lacking. I don't think was being quite as snooty as you seem to feel; although, I do enjoy your sense of humor. My personal brilliance, however sparkling it may or may not be, doesn't come into play here. Please forgive me if I wrongly thought that Magic Squares were of more common knowledge. I do appreciate the video, & I like what Wiseman does & the energy w/ which he does it.

[deanbaird]

It's all good; check out the Quirkology vids for even more Wiseman fun.

[crookedletterk]

I don't understand why the audience is so amazed. Are they *all* unfamiliar w/ the ancient and well-documented Magic Square? The dude must deliberately take a long time completing the grid to give the illusion that he's calculating in his head, when the pattern is easy to memorize and he simply increased the #s 13-16 by the difference of 88 and 34 (which is the Constant Sum of the Normal Magic Square).

[guitar789]

yes, just 2 are too many, the rest fits, this is amazing^^

well he did his solution was perfected, although he names 2 too many. its not because he wrote the wrong numbers! the bigger the number, the less u can find. So he did well, perfect, just named 2 which arent 88, without intention.

this man is brillant

[crookedletterk]

I'm not sure what you mean, that "the bigger the #, the less you can find." You could increase the Constant Sum all you want, and as long as you adjust the 4 highest #s in the grid accordingly, you will still "find" the exact same amount of combinations. The man may be brilliant, but this is hardly evidence.

[guitar789]

Well, if the number is higher than 16, u get less combinations than, when it was below 16.

[JFGermann]

3+10+9+6=28

[greymattersblog]

Actually, he boasts TWO too many 88's. He claims 67+2+3+70=88 (actually 142), and that 7+12+9+6=88 (actually 34). However, 142 and 34 do average out to 88!

[deanbaird]

At some point, Wiseman does boast one too many 88's. Can you find his mistake?

[crookedletterk]

In the Normal Magic Square following this pattern the two 2x2 boxes of which he boasts would equal the Constant Sum; maybe he overlooked the fact that 2 of the #s he increased are found in one box, and none in the other. Or maybe he banked that the audience wouldn't notice.

[janotte]

2 too many i think you'll find - he didn't get it as right as he thought