I like this video, and the others video,where you show, ninjutsu stance against a boxer, but tell me is ichimonji this stance?You should make other video where explain the use of the ninja stance(ichimonjii,jumonjii),against a boxer, with more details.Greeting from Italy!
@jamnin94 Does it? How about Kyojutsu and not being predictable. As Soke Hatsumi says nothing is fixed? Wing Chun move back and forth on a line?
As a point on politeness if you see something that does not agree with what you believe, most polite people would ask a question concerning the difference of presentation before diving in with wide sweeping statements showing there own lack of insight. Just a thought
@YeoDojo as a third kyuu in ninpo(i kno, everyones a martial artist behind their computer right?) i was just trying to point out a concept of our art. most ninjutsu practitioners have limp noodles for ukes and look like they couldnt apply anything to save their life. so its hard not to be critical. in real life if u move in a straight line u hit something, circleing an angles are most proficiant. i like that version of oni kudaki btw... nice
@jamnin94 I think as a third kyu, it would have been nicer to see a politer line of questioning. You will find that if you ask nicely about things that you are not clear on you stand a better chance of getting a good explaination. To presume to know that you are always right is a difficult footing to start from.
If there is space to move back why not use it? If I was in a crowded bar I would use a different type of movement. Every situation is case by case.
@jamnin94 there is also ashi sabaki and the first one you move in a straight line backwords. and you are right about the martial artist behind their computer. i believe they are called keyboard warriors ! :D
Dude, read thru your comments. You consistently say people are missing your point or that they don't understand what your doing. My point is that I am very familiar with what you are trying to do because I have also been there and done that. It's you who keeps dancing around the point. I've been very clear you just don't want to hear the truth. So, I will let you get back to your training but please don't post videos until you have the skill and knowledge to demonstrate the techniques.
@apryor2006 Look at any of the top Shihan's vidoes or Hatsumi's. There is a huge difference in the way they move and the body dynamics they employ. All of the Shihans I've worked with have requested that people don't try to teach until they are qualified.
@apryor2006 That is also a reason I don't post videos because even after training for many years (6 of which I trained 4 to 6 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week), I still don't feel qualified. Look at almost any martial arts video and you will see people slamming Hatsumi and Ninjutsu. Videos like this are why and their comments are justified. It's not the art that is bad, it's most of the practitioners who post before their ready.
@apryor2006 Dude. What is your point? We have discussed distancing and I have accepted that I should be more on the limit of the Ukes range. If I am on the street and not in a confined area. I do expect to control the distance. I dont really understand your suggestions of being in range of a stylist such as a boxer and trying to compete as in a sport environment? Again I currently train 5 days a week, granted not solely in Buj, so not sure what your point is on your old training regimen?
This isn't even performed at a realistic distance. It's been awhile but at white belt under Stephen Hayes corriculum we were taught that the opponents should grab each others elbow with bent arms and shift back to whatever kamae you are going to use to learn proper fighting distance. Who would even throw a jab at someone who is across the rrom? Instead of countering with Onikudaki you can just turn and run; you don't have a fight at the distance you are demonstrating.
@YeoDojo No offense but I think your response is an excuse for poor techinque and footwork. Do you really think you are going to be attacked on the street and magically stay 10 feet away from the attacker? If you are training for competition which is not what the focus of Ninjutsu, do you really think you are going to be able to compete without engaging your opponent?
@apryor2006 Please note: my intention is not to insult but to be critical to help. I can no longer train due to a spinal injury but when I did, I advanced because I was critical of myself. Without that ability to honestly evaluate yourself, your growth will be seriously hampered. When training with Stephen Hayes I have questioned what he was teaching in front of a full room of his students and he thanked me for it. Without questioning ourselves we live in a false world.
@apryor2006 I think the issue you are missing and I am trying to explain is that I am deliberately trying to stay at the end of his range. I am trying to draw him to lunge at me. I admit I could be more on the limit. If you have seen any of Hatsumi Sensei's DVD's he refers to his art as the martial art of distance and this is the issue, of controlling the distance. Obviously there are circumstances when you cant take this type of distance and would have to use different movement.
@apryor2006 The other point you seem confused about is sport and martial arts. There is no requirement for me to engage with the opponent or compete with him. Part of my arsenal is to leave that to him. I am not looking to score points in a given time
@YeoDojo I'm not missing any point. Not only have I seen most of Soke's videos but I also trained for 18 years with many of his Shihans and have traveled to Japan to train with him. I am fully aware of the principles of timing and distance. Are you?
@apryor2006 What is this trumps? I have trained with Soke since 1988. Uptil 2003 I trained with Soke and his four top Shihan 3-4 times a year after that a once a year two week visit to train with Soke and said Shihan. So I am not sure of the point of your last comment?
@MrJWDragon92 like all technique it depends how the opponent reacts. Some people may resist some may not. It is a question of taking what the opponent gives you
another terrible video. it seems to me theres a bit of a "theme" running in your vids of defending against "sport martial arts" attacks, but you seem to have little idea of what these actually are. your defense against a jab is to move straight backwards? i guess it works against someone like your student who has no idea what a jab is. please, dont post any more videos. these are awful. cant believe people can watch a demonstration like this with a straight face.
@leadinjector What do you think about the MT kicks that miss and you end up giving your back as well as kicking with the supporting foot heel raised so if you were on an unven/slippery surface you wouldnt be able to kick or would fall over and not be saved by rules. You would quickly become easy prey to a grappler. I recently started training MT and really enjoy it. All arts have holes, none are full proof, otherwise we would all go and study that one.
you completely failed to answer my question. yo uare defending against a technique that does not exist. nobody throws a punch in a fight like that. so your defense against it is just as unrealistic. this isnt rocket science dude.
@leadinjector What are you talking about? Punches are thrown in all manner of fashions. Just because you dont throw a punch like that doesnt mean no one does. I am guessing you are the dude doing kick boxing on your page. Why dont you think more about the holes in your style with regards to grappling, you may find your time is more usefully spent there?
@YeoDojo Yes, but sparring removes those holes, because what doesn't work (like lunge punches) gets you hit. Since the bujinkan never spars, the crap doesn't get filtered out, and you still try and counter a jab with a shoulderlock.
@YeoDojo When you want to cover distance, you step forward and throw a real punch. Did you say you did Muay Thai? Try doing one of those 'distance covering' lunge punches next time you spar and see what happens.
@YeoDojo Unlike the tori does in your videos. A lunge punch that pulls back is fundamentally different from a lunge punch that lunges and stays there. You are still teaching counters to a punch that nobody uses.
@callum828 I think we have exausted this now. This is a training method to make it easy for the Tori to do/learn technique. This style of punching is only one style as a jab is only one style. I dont know how many different ways I can explain this. What style do you train?
@YeoDojo I split my time between traditional jujitsu, judo, MMA and Muay Thai. I wasted seven years on karate before realising they weren't teaching me to fight. Continue to train BJJ and Muay Thai, you should realise how worthless static training like this is, and how it allows techniques that would never work in a million years, like this one, to prosper when alive training would weed them out.
@callum828 Where does your BJJ come from do you have a grade in it. Amongst all this I haven't bothered to mention I am also a Roger Gracie brown belt.
@YeoDojo Like I said, I never trained BJJ. However the Jujitsu club where my coach and most of the core membership trained taught groundwork and competed in it regularly. It's not strictly BJJ but hey, an armbar's an armbar.
@callum828 I think there is more to it than that. You can force an armbar on using loads of power or you can know a lot of details and be able to set the armbar up using very little speed and power.
@YeoDojo And on what basis are you assuming that he can't? Considering he was the BJJA ground fighting champion between 2005 - 2008 in his weight category, as well as having a 6 - 0 - 0 MMA record I'm pretty sure he's a competent grappler. You're making pretty bold claims considering you have no idea who my coach is.
@YeoDojo You kept asking me where my knowledge about groundfighting came from, and then when I explained where I trained and who under, you implied that unless I had studied pure BJJ then my grappling would be substandard and so would have to 'force an armbar with loads of power'.
@callum828 I didn't imply anything. YOu said an armbar was an armbar and I then said that wasn't strictly the case. I didn't say anything implied or otherwise about you or your instructor.
I think something like "advanced oni kudaki" is on itself a very strange term. I think I've learned that while you are able tu make it simple, the better. There will be no such patience and soft attacking on the streets (and I'm not talking about "resisting opponents" as people around argue). I understand this is not sparring, I'm a Bujinkan student. But if you're attacked for real, you'll learn you need to make onikudaki or whatever, but quick and strong; and for that, you need simple moves...
the fact that uke was attacking like a sissy girl doesn't mean oni kudaki "is useless" against a "real" boxer or whatevermartialart fighting sport. Effectiveness is not show here, probably because the teacher was trying to explain something else. However, uke is attacking horribly, that's no real jab or fudo-ken or any kind of true punch...
I trained bujinkan for a few years, and never learned a proper jab until after when I took kickboxing. Your "boxer" is pretty crappy at boxing. The problem with the techniques you demonstrated is your partner just stopped and froze for you. Have you ever successfully pulled this off against a resisting opponent? I suggest you show that to a boxer and see if it works.
@shawandrew please see my other references. I understand your point and it is valid. However this is just a technical instructional, not sparring. I also train MT and BJJ
@YeoDojo Good for you. I looked at one of your bjj demonstrations and had no problem with it, because compliance is involved in demonstration. The (biggest) issue I take here is that your technique appears to be extremely unreliable, probably because it is unproven against a resisting opponent.
dude its unreal to do this because when u block his left hand u forget about the right one so u get a knouck out and in order to preferm this complex thecnik you need to be a black belt rank or more so note that his right hand was free to do alot of damage to you body and head
look dude its useless agianst a boxer moving back and then moving foward to preferm this you need to be atleast a black belt dan 5 and up beacuse no way in hell you are going to do this. my friend tried this agianst me in a fight and he got knouced out by my right hand so plz note this you dont have control over his right hand with is the stronger
@zelda005 This is the principle for the technique. Of course I would guard against his left hand while jamming his right. I may also work with my knees to break his structure. Thanks for at least being polite unlike so many of the ignorant people out there. This is just the basic technique and done at teaching speed. There is another version here where I have speeded it up a bit.
Actually this technique is not purely Oni Kudaki...It looks more like an incomplete Setsu Yaku since after you perform the Oni Kudaki you grab the Uke by the collar. However you don't kneel back on your left knee like in the Setsu Yaku. By the way I think I that another way to counter a jab would be by stepping on the outside of the attackers tsuki and perform a Gyaku Nage; but not necessarily throw him the elbow-bar can be enough for submission or severe damage...
I don't care how long you've been training in martial arts, you should be a lot more humble. I'm reading through peoples comments and what you've said back to them. Your video was ok, but your attitude on the otherhand, seems quit poor for someone who supposedly has been trianing for 32 years. If you're going to post a video, people are going to critisize it, instead of acting offended, try listening, maybe you could learn something new.
I am sorry if you find my replies rude. I will always reply to people politely in the first instance. However as you can see, some of the posts are not at all constructive and are rude. At which point I deal with the person in the same way as thy are dealing with me. I really have no problem with constructive criticism, but when it is pointless and from people who have only trained for a short time and talk as if they know everything, i have very little time.
I would never personally leave posts on other sites berrating people for stuff I don't understand and I don't think it is anyones god given right to do so. If someone asks for an explaination, I have all the time in the world as you can see. So I really feel that when I have been rude it is always in response to a rude post.
I understand, but if someone wants to act rude, it doesn't mena you have to act the same way in return. Some of the comments seemed as though they were trying to give you decent advice. It doesn't matter if someone has been training a lifetime, or for less than a year, everyone has the potential to learn new things.
@AntiHero12109 I only reply negatively to the people who insist on being rude. If people choose to discuss the situation like mature adults that is fine. If they choose to abuse then they should expect the same.
With you great critique I went to your page for examples of how my Taijutsu should look because with your useful comments I was sure I would find enlightenment there. Strangely there are no examples of your taijutsu to be found? Go back to your bible bashing and stop making pointless comments.
I don't think this technique was developed for use against a jab. It's not very smart to try to force a technique. It's one thing to prove that your art is effective in the modern world, it's another to put yourself and others in a dangerous situation.
I like the bujinkan and the techniques they teach... but I think it is important to know WHEN to use the techniques, as well as HOW. Oni Kudaki is much more effective, I think, in a more grappling style situation.
I dont think the technique is forced? I also think that you should be able to flow between striking and grappling and combine them together, not get fixed in one or the other. I have said this many times in the posts, this is just a demo of technique not real fighting. If the opponent did something else, I would do something else. As I have said before I dont impose technique on my opponent I see what he gives me and take advantage of that.
Also, following the punch back in is a good idea; provided you keep the other side of your head covered.
I noticed your arm was by your waist as you closed the distance; it's certainly of no detriment to keep the other hand by the side of your head (if you're moving in and get a punch from that side there
s no time for a wide block; a hand to the back of the neck-style block will work more quickly) just in case.
Also, it's often not that easy to transition partway to the back like that :)
I like your point about controlling the distance; but I agree with some of the others who have posted in that you can't always do it, and you should be able to fight "in the corner" with a solid guard and / or slipping / weaving techniques.
Also, what I've found Bujinkan - related schools tend to neglect is the footwork aspect; namely, keeping the rear heel elevated to allow greater springiness in footwork.
ilikeaeroplanejelly, thats interesting you say that because in my dojo the sensei emphasises the concept you just said many dojos neglect.
if we ever drop to a knee or something, and our rear heel isnt elevated to allow greater springiness as you put well, the technique isnt considered correct.
To Thomas Curran aka Raitei12110. I was in Japan, training with different shihan for 2 weeks solid. Duncan Stewart told me you showed up to Soke's class at the Hombu. You should have come over and been as rude and offensive as you have been. As I said from the outset. You are good at martial arts from behind your key board, shame your skills don't stand up in real life. Maybe in future shut up, and dont be so rude. Also dancing may be a better art for you to follow.
2 questions...When have you EVER seen a boxer do a lunge punch? Why wouldnt you just parry or dodge the "jab"? Its much safer and more realistic. I understand your just demonstrating, but still...
I am going to avoid getting close enough to him, so he can jab me in a regular fashion. By maintaining the distance, he will eventually be drawn in making a longer punch than usual, if he is aggressive , if not we dont have a fight, both are good solutions.
JawaEffect and raitei12110 aka Thomas Curran, it is your big chance. I am in Japan for the next 10 days. Please come and be rude to my face, instead of hiding behind your key boards. Lets see if either of you have any balls??
I have heard that you are doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, I think that is excellent because it shows that you are evolving. I have a Nidan in Judo, and I have decided to start Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, so I have a white belt in BJJ. I know a lot of instructors are arrogant and do not want to learn new things. I saw a Kung Fu video here with some knife defenses, and it scared me to think anyone still teaches that way, I hope this persons students do not get attacked with a knife.
Hello, how are you doing? It is nice to see many videos on Ninjutsu techniques. I think some people were upset because the jab and footwork were not quite realistic. I have not done boxing, but I know that boxing footwork and punches are extremely fast, and then boxers are usually in tip-top shape. I love Ninjutsu, but I think due to the fact that everyone's martial arts training has become better since the UFC, and pride, I think many of the traditional styles need to evolve as well.
Try not being so rude and you wont have people in your face. As I have said it is not your given right to be rude to people! You should try a bit of politeness you will be suprised how far it gets you!
Why, so you can create more drama? Didn't mean to crush your fragile ego and sorry your position on your own teaching is so weak that it can't withstand any criticism. If I had taken lesson with you in person, I would've been happy to state what I did in person. Have a nice life. Your pathetic attempt at manipulation failed.
Brian, you still haven't learnt any politeness. I dont know your instructors personally, but I do know Jack Hoban. I suspect you don't even hold a black belt in any art. I doubt you have ever trained personally with Hatsumi sensei. Maybe you should think about going back to lifting weights. I actually fave family living very close to Albany, so I visit the east coast regularly. Maybe I will pass by your dojo some time and you can be this rude to my face.
if your reply had in any way been constructive and polite, that would have been interesting. Sadly it seems you make a habit of being rude and aggressive on the internet. The type of person you are is totally shown by your lack of commitment and inability to have enough balls or conviction to put your name to what you say.
You should look at yourself and ask your self whether being rude to people over the internet is the best way you can spend you time. If you want to be rude, at least have the balls to put your name to what you say. You should also accept that there are people out there who know mre than you. As someone once said " it is better to be silent and be presumed an idiot, than speak and it be clear you are an idiot."
It is also ok to politely ask people about any doubts you have. It is however not your right to abuse people and expect or hope there will be no consequence.
Hmm for a Ninja that can supposedly control space it seems like I mentally unbalanced you pretty easily. And tons of people have been training with Hatsumi. The Gracies fight in a ring in a controlled space. Just a little different. Maybe instead of BJJ you should train with the Krav Maga guys. Best wishes
If you think that by me being courteous and answering you perceptions of what I am about and how I train as being off balance, you can. Who do you train under and who are you. I probably know your instructor or possibly his instructor. Thanks for your advice on Krav Maga, but I think I will give it a miss. There is a whole street part to Gracie Jiu Jitsu. I think you have made some terrible assumptions, without researching your subject matter. All this to try to appear clever and knowledgeable!
So you have been rude and offensive, while I have tried to answer your questions, sitting behind your computer. Have you got any conviction behind what you say and as I have asked, able to reveal who you are, or as I suspect, you are too much of a pussy to put your name to what you say. You are quick to criticise, without offering anyhthing of your own. You should feel there is a consequence to your rudeness and it is not ok to be rude to people and not expect to be exposed as a pussy!!!
What about in a bar or a crowd at a concert where you have no room to move? It's silly to think you're always going to have the room to do a happy "control the space" kiujutsu to lure the guy in. Go to a Hardcore show or brutal metal concert. You won't have this much room to dance.
I think I know that, I have been training with Hatsumi Soke for 20 years now. I am also well qualified with the Gracies. There is always a technique for every situation and this you would not use in a crowded space. The defence is also dictated by the attack. You would be unlikely to see the jabbing action in a crowded space. I would however still aim to keep distance between me and my agressor, even if there are other people between us.
I want to force the opponent to have to step if he wants to hit me. If he is 2' he can hit me without moving and then we have to rely on reflexes and quickness of hands to intercept the strike. I am not looking to win points or am not working to a specific time of a round so I can wait to see what the opponent does. The biggest mistake I can make is let him into the 2' range for no reason.
I think out of politeness it is time to say who you are. I have asked several times now and continued to answer your questions. I also get the feeling that although polite you are trying to snipe at me. So reveal yourself, don't be shy.
The fact that I know who you are and that you don't know who I am ought to reveal a lot, but I dare say, it probably won't.
If you look carefully, you'll notice that you have spent your time defending your position rather than reflecting on the gravity of the questions that I have asked.
I also suspect that you may be offended with this post, though that is not my intention.
Suffice as to say, I have been genuine in trying to help.
What I have done is to be polite enough to answer your ill informed misconceptions and poor attempts to snipe at me. If indeed you were genuinely trying to help you would have absolutely no problem revealing who you are. I can only presume that because you wont reveal who you are only reveals that you don't have the conviction to put your name to what you say.
You should look at what has happened here and ask yourself whether you truly should be questioning people when clearly you don't really have any conviction and like many do not have all the facts. You should consider researching your subject matter more before embarking on an insincere line of questioning.
Con"duit (? ∨ ?; 277), n. [F., fr. LL. conductus escort, conduit. See Conduct.]
1. A pipe, canal, channel, or passage for conveying water or fluid.
I think it is fair to say that as I study and train under soke and pass information on to students I am a conduit. I am sure you didn't really need me to explain this
Given the civil and, dare I say, respectful nature of our discussion thus far, I admit to being somewhat disappointed to find that a most recent comment of mine regarding your seminar has been removed.
I did answer your last post but sadly at first I clicked remove instead of reply. You are very welcome to repost the piece, as you can see I am not one for censoring comments. Please reply to my answer I posted. I am not aware of any solicitations I have made about the seminar I am teaching being a Bujinkan seminar. I have said it is a ground fighting course for people in the Bujinkan and other martial artists.
Thomas, we have to stop meeting this way. If people in the Bujinkan want to learn more about an area of fighting, they should be allowed. I was also wondering why a lot of the more senior people in Japan have never heard of you? Internet warrior springs to mind again. Not enough training when you are on Soke's door step. You should concern yourself with your own training and try and ignore what other people are doing. You will find it a fruitless task inferfering in other peoples business.
So who are you then? What advert are you refering to? I have made it clear in my solicitations that this is a course for Bujinkan and other martial artists who want to know more about ground fighting. Please also be aware that I have been asked to teach this course and I am not the host. Not that I have any issue with what the host is doing.
I always keep the two seperate. You make a lot of presumptions about what I do with my training. I never mix the two styles when I am teaching. If you promise to concern yourself more with your own training I will announce at the begining of the course what I am teaching. Not that bI wouldn't have done this anyway. You still haven't told me who you are????
You also haven't told me what piece of information regarding the course you are not happy with, please let me know which advert it is and I will review it as I have not been the originator of all of it?
The head of the Bujinkan in the UK is Hatsumi-sensei. The head of the Bujinkan in Spain is Hatsumi-sensei etc. If you think this is 'fundamentalist' then perhaps you are confusing the forest for the trees.
The fact that someone without training can poke out an eye IS budo. In anycase, Soke has said to go beyond the technical. After 20 years in the Bujinkan, this really ought to be clear, yes?
Anyway, I hope this little dialogue has given you something to consider.
Politeness died when you and people like you started posting garbage on the Internet. There is only one boss. This isn't going to work out the way you think it will.
I am not at any point suggesting I am on Soke's level. Soke does however run the Bujinkan in a democratic fasshion and often asks the opinion of various shihan. You however choose to see it as a dictatorship and have self appointed yourself to police what you see as fit or unfit. Give your head a big shake. By the way I am an optimist so I will always take my chance.
It is easy to assume that because one is not being reprimanded for one's actions that the Bujinkan must be democratic or free. The Bujinkan is free in the sense that you are allowed to freely decide whether to follow Soke or not. The consequence of the abuse of that freedom is to miss out on what Soke is actually teaching.
That's very true and the simple test to see if you are indeed following Soke's teachings is to see if what you are saying and doing about budo is the same as what Soke is saying and doing about budo.
All of us try and all of us don't even come close. What I am not prepared to do is listen to raitei's rudeness and him telling me what I can and can't do. Most people have put up with his belligerence and him hiding behind a key board. I however will be in Japan and believe of the old way of dealing with issues where you are prepared to look the person in the eye. This internet warriorship, where there is no consequence for peoples actions doesn't really work for me.
A person is likely to come close to what Soke is doing if they are at least following his advice. In this case, being honest with oneself is always a good starting point.
If you are coming to Japan to train with Soke (and not groundfighting), then I'd be more concerned about whether I was following the directions of the head of the art I was professing to be studying.
Still, it's not necessary to follow his advice, as there is no shame in deciding to not study his art.
This sounds a bit like a fundamentalists view point. I have been on Japan many times. On one occassion around 1996, Hatsumi sensei actually said to the class, you should study the Gracies as what they have is very strong. This of course could have been wrongly translated of course. I have chosen to go away and study what they are doing with their sport as it is a sport as I was upset that Royce managed to choke me out very quickly when he first met me.
The usual replies of put your fingers in his eyes etc doesn't sit well with me because after 20 years in the Bujinkan putting your fingers in someones eyes is a solution someone who has never trained could do. I wanted a technical solution.I am curious why you are so concerned about what I do in my spare time? I have always supported Soke and the Bujinkan, have never said BJJ was better.
pondering endlessly about technique has never been as interesting as seeing if it works under pressure. This is what is really lacking, too much theory and not enough application.
"You and people like you" you are begining to scare me now. You need to quell your fascist tendencies, wars are started like that. The Bujinkan is not internet warriorship it is supposed to involve the real thing. I like the old school of doing things, where if someone is rude it is sorted out face to face, not hiding at a computer terminal.
Be sure to bring the Gracies and a shovel while your at it! But do me a favor and leave the blue shirt at home, ok? I am 6' 4" 220 lbs. I suggest you don't threaten me because the Japanese police are much more harsh than my taijutsu ever could be. I don't post out of fear. I believe in the video response which u seem to ignore.
Take your crap off the net and burn your books. There is a bit more to Soke than connect the dots. You will say sorry in about 20 years. Takes time.
We are doing a martial art not hiding behind our computers. Sounds like you are sweating now needing the help of the police. I am 6'2" 200 lbs so we should have fun!! Any way who has appointed you as the Bujinkan police? You should try being a bit politer with people and you wont get removed from forums or me enquiring after you in Japan. If I wanted your advice by the way I would have asked for it. By the way you use a spade to dig not a shovel.
I was only going to say hi when I am in Japan. But you seem to be talking about needing the police and your taijutsu. If you want to shoot your mouth off you need to be able to back it up! You want to criticise people on the net behind you pseudonyms, but as soon as you are confronted you get all nervous. Also your pseudo intellectual comments so easily seen through. Your french is shit!
You are very bold sitting behind your computer. I will be in Japan soon and I will talk to you about your rudeness. I won't need the help of the police. I also won't be the one requiring the spade. We are speaking English aren't we?
For a yellow patch group member and author, showing interest in my "cryptic" comments is already a pretty bad sign.
How many Japanese shihan have books, DVDs, websites, and/or videos on the net? How many of these shihan are participating in other martial arts? Please enlighten us.
It is unlikely you will make me sweat. Aren't members of the Bujinkan allowed to participate and expand their knowledge of other arts? I am transparent as to who i am. So perhaps if you want to continue quizzing me you would be good enough to let me know who you are, or are you going to hide behind youTube name. I notice you are quick to criticise but offer up nothing of value on your page. I await your reply if you have the balls to disclose who you are!
Call me old fashioned, but if I choose to criticise what someone is doing I am man enough to let them know who I am and not hide behind a pseudonym. I go back to my original question do you have any balls or do you not have the conviction to put your name to what you say??
all ill say is that the kata MAY be overcomplicated...i doubt boxers hands and feet would stay confined long enough for you to pull out an oni kudai so "late" in the game. but i agree that the kata is just a framework to explore the principles..besides..ive seen much worse.
Have you seen the part 2 version? This has been shown slowly so people can see what is going on. However everyone wants to see stuff done at combat speed for some reason??
i dont need to see at at full speed at all to know how it works, i know what youre showing and its valid. More over, im trying to get at a point; i know what youre showing is good, i'd like to see people emphasize this techniques on realistic Ukes = men who dont stop moving after the first punch
because i AM the CEO of the DFRSNet. i have personally studied ninpo and have PERSONALLY PERFORMED an oni kudaki on a punch before....so, unless you can say the same....
That looks like it'd take way too long to execute. I'd like to see that one performed in fast motion. If you're going to bother to strike him, why not just KO the guy with a strike to the neck or jaw? Simplicity is always your best weapon.
I like this video, and the others video,where you show, ninjutsu stance against a boxer, but tell me is ichimonji this stance?You should make other video where explain the use of the ninja stance(ichimonjii,jumonjii),against a boxer, with more details.Greeting from Italy!
GiuseppeBonelli 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
ninpo says move back on a 45 to evade. u should apply ur taijutsu better. one of the cardinal rules of fighting is never move back on a straight line
jamnin94 8 months ago 2
@jamnin94 Does it? How about Kyojutsu and not being predictable. As Soke Hatsumi says nothing is fixed? Wing Chun move back and forth on a line?
As a point on politeness if you see something that does not agree with what you believe, most polite people would ask a question concerning the difference of presentation before diving in with wide sweeping statements showing there own lack of insight. Just a thought
YeoDojo 8 months ago
@YeoDojo as a third kyuu in ninpo(i kno, everyones a martial artist behind their computer right?) i was just trying to point out a concept of our art. most ninjutsu practitioners have limp noodles for ukes and look like they couldnt apply anything to save their life. so its hard not to be critical. in real life if u move in a straight line u hit something, circleing an angles are most proficiant. i like that version of oni kudaki btw... nice
jamnin94 8 months ago
@jamnin94 I think as a third kyu, it would have been nicer to see a politer line of questioning. You will find that if you ask nicely about things that you are not clear on you stand a better chance of getting a good explaination. To presume to know that you are always right is a difficult footing to start from.
If there is space to move back why not use it? If I was in a crowded bar I would use a different type of movement. Every situation is case by case.
YeoDojo 8 months ago
@jamnin94 there is also ashi sabaki and the first one you move in a straight line backwords. and you are right about the martial artist behind their computer. i believe they are called keyboard warriors ! :D
rondendik 4 months ago
I like it. I would maybe use ura oni kudaki, only because the right hand is already in the right place.
seadawg93 10 months ago
Dude, read thru your comments. You consistently say people are missing your point or that they don't understand what your doing. My point is that I am very familiar with what you are trying to do because I have also been there and done that. It's you who keeps dancing around the point. I've been very clear you just don't want to hear the truth. So, I will let you get back to your training but please don't post videos until you have the skill and knowledge to demonstrate the techniques.
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006 Look at any of the top Shihan's vidoes or Hatsumi's. There is a huge difference in the way they move and the body dynamics they employ. All of the Shihans I've worked with have requested that people don't try to teach until they are qualified.
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006 That is also a reason I don't post videos because even after training for many years (6 of which I trained 4 to 6 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week), I still don't feel qualified. Look at almost any martial arts video and you will see people slamming Hatsumi and Ninjutsu. Videos like this are why and their comments are justified. It's not the art that is bad, it's most of the practitioners who post before their ready.
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006 I can tell your not ready by how you move and by how you apply the technique.
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006 Dude. What is your point? We have discussed distancing and I have accepted that I should be more on the limit of the Ukes range. If I am on the street and not in a confined area. I do expect to control the distance. I dont really understand your suggestions of being in range of a stylist such as a boxer and trying to compete as in a sport environment? Again I currently train 5 days a week, granted not solely in Buj, so not sure what your point is on your old training regimen?
YeoDojo 11 months ago
@YeoDojo All I can say is: Good luck with your training.
apryor2006 10 months ago
This isn't even performed at a realistic distance. It's been awhile but at white belt under Stephen Hayes corriculum we were taught that the opponents should grab each others elbow with bent arms and shift back to whatever kamae you are going to use to learn proper fighting distance. Who would even throw a jab at someone who is across the rrom? Instead of countering with Onikudaki you can just turn and run; you don't have a fight at the distance you are demonstrating.
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006 I think it would be incorrect to stand within striking range of a boxer and get picked off? The technique you refer to is the basic form.
YeoDojo 11 months ago
@YeoDojo No offense but I think your response is an excuse for poor techinque and footwork. Do you really think you are going to be attacked on the street and magically stay 10 feet away from the attacker? If you are training for competition which is not what the focus of Ninjutsu, do you really think you are going to be able to compete without engaging your opponent?
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006 Please note: my intention is not to insult but to be critical to help. I can no longer train due to a spinal injury but when I did, I advanced because I was critical of myself. Without that ability to honestly evaluate yourself, your growth will be seriously hampered. When training with Stephen Hayes I have questioned what he was teaching in front of a full room of his students and he thanked me for it. Without questioning ourselves we live in a false world.
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006 I think the issue you are missing and I am trying to explain is that I am deliberately trying to stay at the end of his range. I am trying to draw him to lunge at me. I admit I could be more on the limit. If you have seen any of Hatsumi Sensei's DVD's he refers to his art as the martial art of distance and this is the issue, of controlling the distance. Obviously there are circumstances when you cant take this type of distance and would have to use different movement.
YeoDojo 11 months ago
@apryor2006 The other point you seem confused about is sport and martial arts. There is no requirement for me to engage with the opponent or compete with him. Part of my arsenal is to leave that to him. I am not looking to score points in a given time
YeoDojo 11 months ago
@YeoDojo I'm not missing any point. Not only have I seen most of Soke's videos but I also trained for 18 years with many of his Shihans and have traveled to Japan to train with him. I am fully aware of the principles of timing and distance. Are you?
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006 What is this trumps? I have trained with Soke since 1988. Uptil 2003 I trained with Soke and his four top Shihan 3-4 times a year after that a once a year two week visit to train with Soke and said Shihan. So I am not sure of the point of your last comment?
YeoDojo 11 months ago
@MrJWDragon92 like all technique it depends how the opponent reacts. Some people may resist some may not. It is a question of taking what the opponent gives you
YeoDojo 1 year ago
Boxers do not jab like that.
flowjitsu1337 1 year ago
@flowjitsu1337
and they got a very good guard you can't elbow through that easily. shitty technique..
McDave1312 11 months ago
another terrible video. it seems to me theres a bit of a "theme" running in your vids of defending against "sport martial arts" attacks, but you seem to have little idea of what these actually are. your defense against a jab is to move straight backwards? i guess it works against someone like your student who has no idea what a jab is. please, dont post any more videos. these are awful. cant believe people can watch a demonstration like this with a straight face.
leadinjector 1 year ago
@leadinjector What do you think about the MT kicks that miss and you end up giving your back as well as kicking with the supporting foot heel raised so if you were on an unven/slippery surface you wouldnt be able to kick or would fall over and not be saved by rules. You would quickly become easy prey to a grappler. I recently started training MT and really enjoy it. All arts have holes, none are full proof, otherwise we would all go and study that one.
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo
you completely failed to answer my question. yo uare defending against a technique that does not exist. nobody throws a punch in a fight like that. so your defense against it is just as unrealistic. this isnt rocket science dude.
leadinjector 1 year ago
@leadinjector What are you talking about? Punches are thrown in all manner of fashions. Just because you dont throw a punch like that doesnt mean no one does. I am guessing you are the dude doing kick boxing on your page. Why dont you think more about the holes in your style with regards to grappling, you may find your time is more usefully spent there?
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo Yes, but sparring removes those holes, because what doesn't work (like lunge punches) gets you hit. Since the bujinkan never spars, the crap doesn't get filtered out, and you still try and counter a jab with a shoulderlock.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 The lunge punch is for covering distance, but mainly to teach a student coordination. I agree with your point on not sparring
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo When you want to cover distance, you step forward and throw a real punch. Did you say you did Muay Thai? Try doing one of those 'distance covering' lunge punches next time you spar and see what happens.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 I have tried this regularly and I use it to strike the plexus with success. Obviously I am then retreating quickly as well
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo Unlike the tori does in your videos. A lunge punch that pulls back is fundamentally different from a lunge punch that lunges and stays there. You are still teaching counters to a punch that nobody uses.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 I think we have exausted this now. This is a training method to make it easy for the Tori to do/learn technique. This style of punching is only one style as a jab is only one style. I dont know how many different ways I can explain this. What style do you train?
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo I split my time between traditional jujitsu, judo, MMA and Muay Thai. I wasted seven years on karate before realising they weren't teaching me to fight. Continue to train BJJ and Muay Thai, you should realise how worthless static training like this is, and how it allows techniques that would never work in a million years, like this one, to prosper when alive training would weed them out.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 This is my intention. Who do you study BJJ with?
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo Will Murley, his background is in traditional jujitsu but he now runs an MMA club.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 Where does your BJJ come from do you have a grade in it. Amongst all this I haven't bothered to mention I am also a Roger Gracie brown belt.
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo I never actually said I trained BJJ, I don't. But it makes up most of the groundfighting we train for MMA.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 hmmm. Where does the BJJ come from then?
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo Like I said, I never trained BJJ. However the Jujitsu club where my coach and most of the core membership trained taught groundwork and competed in it regularly. It's not strictly BJJ but hey, an armbar's an armbar.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 I think there is more to it than that. You can force an armbar on using loads of power or you can know a lot of details and be able to set the armbar up using very little speed and power.
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo And on what basis are you assuming that he can't? Considering he was the BJJA ground fighting champion between 2005 - 2008 in his weight category, as well as having a 6 - 0 - 0 MMA record I'm pretty sure he's a competent grappler. You're making pretty bold claims considering you have no idea who my coach is.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 I think you need to read my reply again. Where did I say anything about your coach or you in fact?
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo You kept asking me where my knowledge about groundfighting came from, and then when I explained where I trained and who under, you implied that unless I had studied pure BJJ then my grappling would be substandard and so would have to 'force an armbar with loads of power'.
callum828 1 year ago
@callum828 I didn't imply anything. YOu said an armbar was an armbar and I then said that wasn't strictly the case. I didn't say anything implied or otherwise about you or your instructor.
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@callum828 I let people get on with their training. I dont critique them unless they ask
YeoDojo 1 year ago
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@YeoDojo
"I let people get on with their training. I dont critique them unless they ask "
by submitting videos to YT you are asking for some type of recognition,
im curious. what connection does this martial art have to ninja?
i hope you are not falsely advertising hatsumi's budo taijutsu as ninjutsu or shinobi related...
Arteanor 1 year ago
I think something like "advanced oni kudaki" is on itself a very strange term. I think I've learned that while you are able tu make it simple, the better. There will be no such patience and soft attacking on the streets (and I'm not talking about "resisting opponents" as people around argue). I understand this is not sparring, I'm a Bujinkan student. But if you're attacked for real, you'll learn you need to make onikudaki or whatever, but quick and strong; and for that, you need simple moves...
zsoujiro 1 year ago
@zsoujiro
My only advice (not criticism) is that if you wanna learn for real, make your uke attack you with true intention.
zsoujiro 1 year ago
the fact that uke was attacking like a sissy girl doesn't mean oni kudaki "is useless" against a "real" boxer or whatevermartialart fighting sport. Effectiveness is not show here, probably because the teacher was trying to explain something else. However, uke is attacking horribly, that's no real jab or fudo-ken or any kind of true punch...
zsoujiro 1 year ago
I trained bujinkan for a few years, and never learned a proper jab until after when I took kickboxing. Your "boxer" is pretty crappy at boxing. The problem with the techniques you demonstrated is your partner just stopped and froze for you. Have you ever successfully pulled this off against a resisting opponent? I suggest you show that to a boxer and see if it works.
shawandrew 1 year ago
@shawandrew please see my other references. I understand your point and it is valid. However this is just a technical instructional, not sparring. I also train MT and BJJ
YeoDojo 1 year ago
@YeoDojo Good for you. I looked at one of your bjj demonstrations and had no problem with it, because compliance is involved in demonstration. The (biggest) issue I take here is that your technique appears to be extremely unreliable, probably because it is unproven against a resisting opponent.
shawandrew 1 year ago
dude its unreal to do this because when u block his left hand u forget about the right one so u get a knouck out and in order to preferm this complex thecnik you need to be a black belt rank or more so note that his right hand was free to do alot of damage to you body and head
zelda005 1 year ago
look dude its useless agianst a boxer moving back and then moving foward to preferm this you need to be atleast a black belt dan 5 and up beacuse no way in hell you are going to do this. my friend tried this agianst me in a fight and he got knouced out by my right hand so plz note this you dont have control over his right hand with is the stronger
zelda005 1 year ago
@zelda005 This is the principle for the technique. Of course I would guard against his left hand while jamming his right. I may also work with my knees to break his structure. Thanks for at least being polite unlike so many of the ignorant people out there. This is just the basic technique and done at teaching speed. There is another version here where I have speeded it up a bit.
YeoDojo 1 year ago
Actually this technique is not purely Oni Kudaki...It looks more like an incomplete Setsu Yaku since after you perform the Oni Kudaki you grab the Uke by the collar. However you don't kneel back on your left knee like in the Setsu Yaku. By the way I think I that another way to counter a jab would be by stepping on the outside of the attackers tsuki and perform a Gyaku Nage; but not necessarily throw him the elbow-bar can be enough for submission or severe damage...
khrafstra 2 years ago
Gotta use the old 45 degree angle! San shin is an excellent way to improve evasion taijutsu IMO.
23mavcat 2 years ago
I don't care how long you've been training in martial arts, you should be a lot more humble. I'm reading through peoples comments and what you've said back to them. Your video was ok, but your attitude on the otherhand, seems quit poor for someone who supposedly has been trianing for 32 years. If you're going to post a video, people are going to critisize it, instead of acting offended, try listening, maybe you could learn something new.
AntiHero12109 2 years ago 8
I am sorry if you find my replies rude. I will always reply to people politely in the first instance. However as you can see, some of the posts are not at all constructive and are rude. At which point I deal with the person in the same way as thy are dealing with me. I really have no problem with constructive criticism, but when it is pointless and from people who have only trained for a short time and talk as if they know everything, i have very little time.
YeoDojo 2 years ago
I would never personally leave posts on other sites berrating people for stuff I don't understand and I don't think it is anyones god given right to do so. If someone asks for an explaination, I have all the time in the world as you can see. So I really feel that when I have been rude it is always in response to a rude post.
YeoDojo 2 years ago
I understand, but if someone wants to act rude, it doesn't mena you have to act the same way in return. Some of the comments seemed as though they were trying to give you decent advice. It doesn't matter if someone has been training a lifetime, or for less than a year, everyone has the potential to learn new things.
AntiHero12109 2 years ago
@AntiHero12109 I only reply negatively to the people who insist on being rude. If people choose to discuss the situation like mature adults that is fine. If they choose to abuse then they should expect the same.
YeoDojo 11 months ago
Thats Simon Yeo I've heard about him hes a 10th Dan supposed to be really good and he demos this technique very well and how it would be used today
bdass 2 years ago
show me how to be more flexible so i can lick myself like a dogs does.
yumYumgwy 2 years ago
I remember when I first experienced that arm lock in 3:36, bloody painful.
TomNortherner 2 years ago
Okay, where's Ichimonji no Kamae?
BLUELINKBR 2 years ago
it's hidden - juppo sessho ;)
NixonSWK 2 years ago
@Bluelinker: read some books on ninjutsu. they explain how it is important to hide your techniques so you dont give anything away
RajDrummer1 2 years ago
His taijutsu is terrible! Moving back from a punch? How about some ninja secret techniques? Go back to the drawing board!!!!!!!!!
doesyourmamaknow 2 years ago 4
With you great critique I went to your page for examples of how my Taijutsu should look because with your useful comments I was sure I would find enlightenment there. Strangely there are no examples of your taijutsu to be found? Go back to your bible bashing and stop making pointless comments.
YeoDojo 2 years ago
I don't think this technique was developed for use against a jab. It's not very smart to try to force a technique. It's one thing to prove that your art is effective in the modern world, it's another to put yourself and others in a dangerous situation.
I like the bujinkan and the techniques they teach... but I think it is important to know WHEN to use the techniques, as well as HOW. Oni Kudaki is much more effective, I think, in a more grappling style situation.
ninpomasta111 3 years ago 2
I dont think the technique is forced? I also think that you should be able to flow between striking and grappling and combine them together, not get fixed in one or the other. I have said this many times in the posts, this is just a demo of technique not real fighting. If the opponent did something else, I would do something else. As I have said before I dont impose technique on my opponent I see what he gives me and take advantage of that.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
If i have taken the opponents balance and Oni Kudaki is available I will take it. If it is not I wont.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
crushing the demon!! haha
good stuff
ninjiujitsu1 3 years ago
backflip kick on top of the head with the right leg =P
baifengsi 3 years ago
Also, following the punch back in is a good idea; provided you keep the other side of your head covered.
I noticed your arm was by your waist as you closed the distance; it's certainly of no detriment to keep the other hand by the side of your head (if you're moving in and get a punch from that side there
s no time for a wide block; a hand to the back of the neck-style block will work more quickly) just in case.
Also, it's often not that easy to transition partway to the back like that :)
ilikeaeroplanejelly 3 years ago
I like your point about controlling the distance; but I agree with some of the others who have posted in that you can't always do it, and you should be able to fight "in the corner" with a solid guard and / or slipping / weaving techniques.
Also, what I've found Bujinkan - related schools tend to neglect is the footwork aspect; namely, keeping the rear heel elevated to allow greater springiness in footwork.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 3 years ago
ilikeaeroplanejelly, thats interesting you say that because in my dojo the sensei emphasises the concept you just said many dojos neglect.
if we ever drop to a knee or something, and our rear heel isnt elevated to allow greater springiness as you put well, the technique isnt considered correct.
foot work is very important!
ninjiujitsu1 3 years ago
To Thomas Curran aka Raitei12110. I was in Japan, training with different shihan for 2 weeks solid. Duncan Stewart told me you showed up to Soke's class at the Hombu. You should have come over and been as rude and offensive as you have been. As I said from the outset. You are good at martial arts from behind your key board, shame your skills don't stand up in real life. Maybe in future shut up, and dont be so rude. Also dancing may be a better art for you to follow.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
2 questions...When have you EVER seen a boxer do a lunge punch? Why wouldnt you just parry or dodge the "jab"? Its much safer and more realistic. I understand your just demonstrating, but still...
Shaok353 3 years ago
I am going to avoid getting close enough to him, so he can jab me in a regular fashion. By maintaining the distance, he will eventually be drawn in making a longer punch than usual, if he is aggressive , if not we dont have a fight, both are good solutions.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
JawaEffect and raitei12110 aka Thomas Curran, it is your big chance. I am in Japan for the next 10 days. Please come and be rude to my face, instead of hiding behind your key boards. Lets see if either of you have any balls??
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Anyways, best wishes on your training/teaching, and I look forward to more videos on Ninjutsu, and grappling.
tonydelacruz45 3 years ago
I have heard that you are doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, I think that is excellent because it shows that you are evolving. I have a Nidan in Judo, and I have decided to start Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, so I have a white belt in BJJ. I know a lot of instructors are arrogant and do not want to learn new things. I saw a Kung Fu video here with some knife defenses, and it scared me to think anyone still teaches that way, I hope this persons students do not get attacked with a knife.
tonydelacruz45 3 years ago
Hello, how are you doing? It is nice to see many videos on Ninjutsu techniques. I think some people were upset because the jab and footwork were not quite realistic. I have not done boxing, but I know that boxing footwork and punches are extremely fast, and then boxers are usually in tip-top shape. I love Ninjutsu, but I think due to the fact that everyone's martial arts training has become better since the UFC, and pride, I think many of the traditional styles need to evolve as well.
tonydelacruz45 3 years ago
You argue a lot for an instructor
NinjaRunningWild 3 years ago
And you are very rude for a kyu grade. If you ever come to London, please feel free to come by my dojo and abuse me to my face.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Grow up
NinjaRunningWild 3 years ago
Try not being so rude and you wont have people in your face. As I have said it is not your given right to be rude to people! You should try a bit of politeness you will be suprised how far it gets you!
YeoDojo 3 years ago
As I said, I first offered constructive criticism which you took personally. Go ahead and come here. We do not train off 4' away jabs.
NinjaRunningWild 3 years ago
If you are rude to my face believe me it wont be training! As I said you should try being polite. The rudeness only shows how ignorant you are!
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Why, so you can create more drama? Didn't mean to crush your fragile ego and sorry your position on your own teaching is so weak that it can't withstand any criticism. If I had taken lesson with you in person, I would've been happy to state what I did in person. Have a nice life. Your pathetic attempt at manipulation failed.
NinjaRunningWild 3 years ago
Brian, you still haven't learnt any politeness. I dont know your instructors personally, but I do know Jack Hoban. I suspect you don't even hold a black belt in any art. I doubt you have ever trained personally with Hatsumi sensei. Maybe you should think about going back to lifting weights. I actually fave family living very close to Albany, so I visit the east coast regularly. Maybe I will pass by your dojo some time and you can be this rude to my face.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
if your reply had in any way been constructive and polite, that would have been interesting. Sadly it seems you make a habit of being rude and aggressive on the internet. The type of person you are is totally shown by your lack of commitment and inability to have enough balls or conviction to put your name to what you say.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
You should look at yourself and ask your self whether being rude to people over the internet is the best way you can spend you time. If you want to be rude, at least have the balls to put your name to what you say. You should also accept that there are people out there who know mre than you. As someone once said " it is better to be silent and be presumed an idiot, than speak and it be clear you are an idiot."
YeoDojo 3 years ago
It is also ok to politely ask people about any doubts you have. It is however not your right to abuse people and expect or hope there will be no consequence.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Hmm for a Ninja that can supposedly control space it seems like I mentally unbalanced you pretty easily. And tons of people have been training with Hatsumi. The Gracies fight in a ring in a controlled space. Just a little different. Maybe instead of BJJ you should train with the Krav Maga guys. Best wishes
NinjaRunningWild 3 years ago
If you think that by me being courteous and answering you perceptions of what I am about and how I train as being off balance, you can. Who do you train under and who are you. I probably know your instructor or possibly his instructor. Thanks for your advice on Krav Maga, but I think I will give it a miss. There is a whole street part to Gracie Jiu Jitsu. I think you have made some terrible assumptions, without researching your subject matter. All this to try to appear clever and knowledgeable!
YeoDojo 3 years ago
So you have been rude and offensive, while I have tried to answer your questions, sitting behind your computer. Have you got any conviction behind what you say and as I have asked, able to reveal who you are, or as I suspect, you are too much of a pussy to put your name to what you say. You are quick to criticise, without offering anyhthing of your own. You should feel there is a consequence to your rudeness and it is not ok to be rude to people and not expect to be exposed as a pussy!!!
YeoDojo 3 years ago
What about in a bar or a crowd at a concert where you have no room to move? It's silly to think you're always going to have the room to do a happy "control the space" kiujutsu to lure the guy in. Go to a Hardcore show or brutal metal concert. You won't have this much room to dance.
NinjaRunningWild 3 years ago
I think I know that, I have been training with Hatsumi Soke for 20 years now. I am also well qualified with the Gracies. There is always a technique for every situation and this you would not use in a crowded space. The defence is also dictated by the attack. You would be unlikely to see the jabbing action in a crowded space. I would however still aim to keep distance between me and my agressor, even if there are other people between us.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Also if you want to hear condescending, then I have been training in martial arts longer than you have been alive!!
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Doesn't seem to be helping. Maybe you developed 32+ years of bad habits. Typical
NinjaRunningWild 3 years ago
Of course he can't hit him. He's like 4' away from him! Real fights happen within like 2' or less.
NinjaRunningWild 3 years ago
Only if you let the person get 2' to you. This is part of the idea to control the distance, so you don't get sucker punched.
Best
Simon Yeo
YeoDojo 3 years ago
I want to force the opponent to have to step if he wants to hit me. If he is 2' he can hit me without moving and then we have to rely on reflexes and quickness of hands to intercept the strike. I am not looking to win points or am not working to a specific time of a round so I can wait to see what the opponent does. The biggest mistake I can make is let him into the 2' range for no reason.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
If you don't mind me asking, in what way do you consider yourself a conduit for Soke's teachings?
JawaEffect 3 years ago
Hi,
I think out of politeness it is time to say who you are. I have asked several times now and continued to answer your questions. I also get the feeling that although polite you are trying to snipe at me. So reveal yourself, don't be shy.
Best
Simon
YeoDojo 3 years ago
The fact that I know who you are and that you don't know who I am ought to reveal a lot, but I dare say, it probably won't.
If you look carefully, you'll notice that you have spent your time defending your position rather than reflecting on the gravity of the questions that I have asked.
I also suspect that you may be offended with this post, though that is not my intention.
Suffice as to say, I have been genuine in trying to help.
For what is worth, good luck in your life.
JawaEffect 3 years ago
What I have done is to be polite enough to answer your ill informed misconceptions and poor attempts to snipe at me. If indeed you were genuinely trying to help you would have absolutely no problem revealing who you are. I can only presume that because you wont reveal who you are only reveals that you don't have the conviction to put your name to what you say.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
You should look at what has happened here and ask yourself whether you truly should be questioning people when clearly you don't really have any conviction and like many do not have all the facts. You should consider researching your subject matter more before embarking on an insincere line of questioning.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
For your information.
Con"duit (? ∨ ?; 277), n. [F., fr. LL. conductus escort, conduit. See Conduct.]
1. A pipe, canal, channel, or passage for conveying water or fluid.
I think it is fair to say that as I study and train under soke and pass information on to students I am a conduit. I am sure you didn't really need me to explain this
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Given the civil and, dare I say, respectful nature of our discussion thus far, I admit to being somewhat disappointed to find that a most recent comment of mine regarding your seminar has been removed.
Such is life...
JawaEffect 3 years ago
I did answer your last post but sadly at first I clicked remove instead of reply. You are very welcome to repost the piece, as you can see I am not one for censoring comments. Please reply to my answer I posted. I am not aware of any solicitations I have made about the seminar I am teaching being a Bujinkan seminar. I have said it is a ground fighting course for people in the Bujinkan and other martial artists.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
I assume you are not finding it somewhat disingenuous to be teaching a groundfighting seminar under the Bujinkan banner?
JawaEffect 3 years ago
Thomas, we have to stop meeting this way. If people in the Bujinkan want to learn more about an area of fighting, they should be allowed. I was also wondering why a lot of the more senior people in Japan have never heard of you? Internet warrior springs to mind again. Not enough training when you are on Soke's door step. You should concern yourself with your own training and try and ignore what other people are doing. You will find it a fruitless task inferfering in other peoples business.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
I can assure you that I am not Thomas.
In anycase, you have every right to learn about any area of fighting you choose.
I am just curious as to why you would choose to label a groundfighting seminar a Bujinkan one.
I would recommend you label it a Gracie Groundfighting seminar (and I am not implying that there is anything wrong with groundfigthing, by the way).
Don't you think it's odd?
Just curious. Please don't take offence.
JawaEffect 3 years ago
So who are you then? What advert are you refering to? I have made it clear in my solicitations that this is a course for Bujinkan and other martial artists who want to know more about ground fighting. Please also be aware that I have been asked to teach this course and I am not the host. Not that I have any issue with what the host is doing.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
I always keep the two seperate. You make a lot of presumptions about what I do with my training. I never mix the two styles when I am teaching. If you promise to concern yourself more with your own training I will announce at the begining of the course what I am teaching. Not that bI wouldn't have done this anyway. You still haven't told me who you are????
YeoDojo 3 years ago
You also haven't told me what piece of information regarding the course you are not happy with, please let me know which advert it is and I will review it as I have not been the originator of all of it?
YeoDojo 3 years ago
I was also wondering why a lot of the more senior people in Japan have never heard of you?
That is the way it should be.
raitei12110 3 years ago
The head of the Bujinkan in the UK is Hatsumi-sensei. The head of the Bujinkan in Spain is Hatsumi-sensei etc. If you think this is 'fundamentalist' then perhaps you are confusing the forest for the trees.
The fact that someone without training can poke out an eye IS budo. In anycase, Soke has said to go beyond the technical. After 20 years in the Bujinkan, this really ought to be clear, yes?
Anyway, I hope this little dialogue has given you something to consider.
Good luck.
JawaEffect 3 years ago
Equally I hope you will part with something to think about.
Best wishes and good luck with your training.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Politeness died when you and people like you started posting garbage on the Internet. There is only one boss. This isn't going to work out the way you think it will.
raitei12110 3 years ago
I am not at any point suggesting I am on Soke's level. Soke does however run the Bujinkan in a democratic fasshion and often asks the opinion of various shihan. You however choose to see it as a dictatorship and have self appointed yourself to police what you see as fit or unfit. Give your head a big shake. By the way I am an optimist so I will always take my chance.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
It is easy to assume that because one is not being reprimanded for one's actions that the Bujinkan must be democratic or free. The Bujinkan is free in the sense that you are allowed to freely decide whether to follow Soke or not. The consequence of the abuse of that freedom is to miss out on what Soke is actually teaching.
JawaEffect 3 years ago
We all try to follow Soke's teachings as best we can and present things as sincerely as we can.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
That's very true and the simple test to see if you are indeed following Soke's teachings is to see if what you are saying and doing about budo is the same as what Soke is saying and doing about budo.
JawaEffect 3 years ago
All of us try and all of us don't even come close. What I am not prepared to do is listen to raitei's rudeness and him telling me what I can and can't do. Most people have put up with his belligerence and him hiding behind a key board. I however will be in Japan and believe of the old way of dealing with issues where you are prepared to look the person in the eye. This internet warriorship, where there is no consequence for peoples actions doesn't really work for me.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
A person is likely to come close to what Soke is doing if they are at least following his advice. In this case, being honest with oneself is always a good starting point.
If you are coming to Japan to train with Soke (and not groundfighting), then I'd be more concerned about whether I was following the directions of the head of the art I was professing to be studying.
Still, it's not necessary to follow his advice, as there is no shame in deciding to not study his art.
JawaEffect 3 years ago
This sounds a bit like a fundamentalists view point. I have been on Japan many times. On one occassion around 1996, Hatsumi sensei actually said to the class, you should study the Gracies as what they have is very strong. This of course could have been wrongly translated of course. I have chosen to go away and study what they are doing with their sport as it is a sport as I was upset that Royce managed to choke me out very quickly when he first met me.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
The usual replies of put your fingers in his eyes etc doesn't sit well with me because after 20 years in the Bujinkan putting your fingers in someones eyes is a solution someone who has never trained could do. I wanted a technical solution.I am curious why you are so concerned about what I do in my spare time? I have always supported Soke and the Bujinkan, have never said BJJ was better.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
pondering endlessly about technique has never been as interesting as seeing if it works under pressure. This is what is really lacking, too much theory and not enough application.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
"You and people like you" you are begining to scare me now. You need to quell your fascist tendencies, wars are started like that. The Bujinkan is not internet warriorship it is supposed to involve the real thing. I like the old school of doing things, where if someone is rude it is sorted out face to face, not hiding at a computer terminal.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Stalker San,
Be sure to bring the Gracies and a shovel while your at it! But do me a favor and leave the blue shirt at home, ok? I am 6' 4" 220 lbs. I suggest you don't threaten me because the Japanese police are much more harsh than my taijutsu ever could be. I don't post out of fear. I believe in the video response which u seem to ignore.
Take your crap off the net and burn your books. There is a bit more to Soke than connect the dots. You will say sorry in about 20 years. Takes time.
raitei12110 3 years ago
We are doing a martial art not hiding behind our computers. Sounds like you are sweating now needing the help of the police. I am 6'2" 200 lbs so we should have fun!! Any way who has appointed you as the Bujinkan police? You should try being a bit politer with people and you wont get removed from forums or me enquiring after you in Japan. If I wanted your advice by the way I would have asked for it. By the way you use a spade to dig not a shovel.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
I was only going to say hi when I am in Japan. But you seem to be talking about needing the police and your taijutsu. If you want to shoot your mouth off you need to be able to back it up! You want to criticise people on the net behind you pseudonyms, but as soon as you are confronted you get all nervous. Also your pseudo intellectual comments so easily seen through. Your french is shit!
YeoDojo 3 years ago
In my country, you use a shovel. Get yourself one.
raitei12110 3 years ago
You are very bold sitting behind your computer. I will be in Japan soon and I will talk to you about your rudeness. I won't need the help of the police. I also won't be the one requiring the spade. We are speaking English aren't we?
YeoDojo 3 years ago
also whatever happened to freedom of speech??
YeoDojo 3 years ago
The Bujinkan is not a democracy. If that is what your looking for, head towards the U.S.
raitei12110 3 years ago
No offense, but what you are attempting to show on the Internet is a very small segment of the complex art of bomb defusal. Tick, tick, tick...
raitei12110 3 years ago
What on earth are you talking about? Don't be cryptic please expand.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
For a yellow patch group member and author, showing interest in my "cryptic" comments is already a pretty bad sign.
How many Japanese shihan have books, DVDs, websites, and/or videos on the net? How many of these shihan are participating in other martial arts? Please enlighten us.
And yes, you are allowed to start sweating now.
raitei12110 3 years ago
It is unlikely you will make me sweat. Aren't members of the Bujinkan allowed to participate and expand their knowledge of other arts? I am transparent as to who i am. So perhaps if you want to continue quizzing me you would be good enough to let me know who you are, or are you going to hide behind youTube name. I notice you are quick to criticise but offer up nothing of value on your page. I await your reply if you have the balls to disclose who you are!
YeoDojo 3 years ago
"Aren't members of the Bujinkan allowed to participate and expand their knowledge of other arts?"
In many countries, it is not illegal to cheat on your girlfriend.
raitei12110 3 years ago
I will be in Japan around Daikomyosai so you could always discuss this with me in person.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
"I await your reply if you have the balls to disclose who you are!"
Spoken like a true shihan!
raitei12110 3 years ago
Call me old fashioned, but if I choose to criticise what someone is doing I am man enough to let them know who I am and not hide behind a pseudonym. I go back to my original question do you have any balls or do you not have the conviction to put your name to what you say??
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Do you think Nagato would listen to your nonsense?
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Thomas, it seems you have been upsetting a few people around the Bujinkan. I'll be sure to look you up when I am in Japan.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Two things are going to happen:
1. I am going to purchase a lottery ticket.
2. I am going to win.
raitei12110 3 years ago
Your point is?????
YeoDojo 3 years ago
As a yellow patch club member, do you really have to ask?
raitei12110 3 years ago
all ill say is that the kata MAY be overcomplicated...i doubt boxers hands and feet would stay confined long enough for you to pull out an oni kudai so "late" in the game. but i agree that the kata is just a framework to explore the principles..besides..ive seen much worse.
MarcMorisseau 3 years ago
Hi,
Have you seen the part 2 version? This has been shown slowly so people can see what is going on. However everyone wants to see stuff done at combat speed for some reason??
Best
Simon
YeoDojo 3 years ago
hi simon,
i dont need to see at at full speed at all to know how it works, i know what youre showing and its valid. More over, im trying to get at a point; i know what youre showing is good, i'd like to see people emphasize this techniques on realistic Ukes = men who dont stop moving after the first punch
MarcMorisseau 3 years ago
have you seen the other videos that include a cross and part 2 which is done quicker
best
simon
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Marc,
How do you know if it is good or not?
The only way I would be able to make sense out of that comment is if you were CEO of the Discount Facial Reconstructive Surgery Network.
raitei12110 3 years ago
because i AM the CEO of the DFRSNet. i have personally studied ninpo and have PERSONALLY PERFORMED an oni kudaki on a punch before....so, unless you can say the same....
MarcMorisseau 3 years ago
Qu'avez-vous dit? Êtes-vous un membre du club sexy de chemise également?
raitei12110 3 years ago
vous parlez le francais merde monsieur gros PD
YeoDojo 3 years ago
Dont stress about this guy. He hasn't the conviction about what he says to give his real name.
YeoDojo 3 years ago
That looks like it'd take way too long to execute. I'd like to see that one performed in fast motion. If you're going to bother to strike him, why not just KO the guy with a strike to the neck or jaw? Simplicity is always your best weapon.
Seibukan76 3 years ago