Rachel Maddow Show: Naomi Klein on the Bank Bailouts

[poopieheadface]

Naomi looks like a young Nancy Pelosi, just as crazy too. Rachel Madow is a lesbian.

[autumnsylver]

She's very intelligent, but she's not a very good speaker. She keeps saying things like "th- th- th- th-... uh- uh- uh- uh... a- a- a- and"

[Ejwoods08]

@autumnsylver she's a fine speaker. Stuttering is a speech impediment - one that many brilliant speakers struggle with.

[Reido2828]

@autumnsylver

According to a Micro-cephalic like you yes she would seem intelligent .

[MrsWebfoot]

I would LOVE to see Naomi and Glenn Beck in the same room. Two kooks, one from the left, and the other from the right. Both are making bank with their fear mongering. BTW, neither of them scare me. Seeing them go toe to toe would be pretty hilarious, though, and entertaining. Disaster as a form of entertainment! Sheesh! How can we Americans be so gullible?

[Ejwoods08]

@MrsWebfoot Naomi Klein is a journalist - a real journalist. Everything she says and writes is backed up by facts and a whole lot of sourcing. To compare her to Glenn Beck is juvenile and ignorant. You say fear mongering, I say scary truth. Let's face it; you're just a pawn.

[mpc91]

@Ejwoods08 - She's not a journalist, she's a pundit. She doesn't deal in facts, she deals in half-truths and lies told so many times they seem true. But she's not interested in facts.

[Reido2828]

@mpc91

If your referring to Naomi Klein then you're 100% dead on

[sullyterry1]

These two are supposedly smart people. Really?

[Blakeontape]

she is so great at explaining this.

[RicPhlare]

@Blakeontape - Klein's credentials in economics are taken directly from Karl Marx. Naturally her line of bullshit resonates among the economically retarded viewers of Roger Maddog.

[Blakeontape]

@RicPhlare I assume by the ridiculous Karl Marx comment, your credentials are from the Tea Party Express webpage. Please refute the argument presented my Ms. Klein, since you seem to have a much better grasp on the situation as the lady who has spent years investigating and researching the issue. I would love to hear your explanation for why GDP has gone up while wages go down, why billionaires have seen a 140% increase in wages, while workers a 21% decline in the last 25 years or so. Please.

[RicPhlare]

@Blakeontape - She's been a lefty columnist in Canadian newspapers for years. She has no credentials in economics whatsoever. She was born into a family of communists and socialists and has a degree in the left-wing field of, ahem, "journalism". In other words, she knows fuck all.

[wiley789]

@RicPhlare By fuk she must scare you, with the amount of retorts your coming out with, who are you really, donald rumsfeld, bill gates, or do you have a lot of stock in halliburton or other such parahia corporation

[RicPhlare]

@wiley789 - It's called the truth. I have stock in the truth. It's free. Get some.

[RicPhlare]

@Blakeontape - I don't go on wild goose chases based on 'statistics' that liberals pull out of their asses.  "Billionaires" don't earn "wages" either.

[RicPhlare]

@Blakeontape - GDP in strict dollar terms goes up because governments create money out of thin air. Real wealth goes down for the same reason. Wages are going down because the US economy is going from an industrial, production-based economy built on savings to a consumption-based, economy built on mountains of debt. Instead of reading the moronic ramblings of media idiots, try Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, Ron Paul, Peter Schiff - people that actually know something about economics.

[Blakeontape]

@RicPhlare How does any of what you just claimed as reasons for economic collapse and inequality differ from what Klein said on the show? It doesn't it just came from people you happen to agree with. Still none of what you said supports any of the conservative positions on the issue of economy. Who is paying the debt, the people who have already been economically weakened by 20 years of Republican policy. I've read Friedman and I like Ron Paul, I just don't see why I can't read Klein too.

[RicPhlare]

@Blakeontape - You can read Klein if you like the class warfare marxist ramblings of an imbecile. If you want to flush your money down the toilet buying her books, go for it. The problem is Keynesian economics - it isn't a 'Republican' or 'Democrat' issue. Both parties have done the same basic economic things for decades - the true differences are superficial. Klein is economically retarded and her entire premise is from an economically retarded viewpoint.

[intelliman]

@RicPhlare You're saying nothing and asking nothing while berating and denying reality. If we accepted the notion of class warfare, you'd have died on the front lines a while ago.

[RicPhlare]

@intelliman - You're the one saying nothing. Left-wing politics is the politics of envy and identity politics. The last Presidential election proved that. The United States is going broke. The last congressional election was about that. You're the one on need of a reality check.

[RicPhlare]

@Blakeontape - Klein calls it 'disaster-capitalism'. Klein blames the 'capitalists' and the politicians as tools of the 'capitalists, especially the Republicans. Her solution is a massive and powerful government using Marxist ideals. She is a fucking idiot. The truth is that what is happening is 'disaster-socialism'.

[mpc91]

@RicPhlare - EXACTLY!!!! Thank you.

She's right that disasters are used to make people accept what they ordinarily wouldn't. Then she fails to realize that those things accepted are the opposite of what she suggests.

Government is not shrinking. It's growing. Exponentially.

She talks of the "massive transfer of public wealth to private hands", when the opposite is what has really been occuring.

[Ejwoods08]

@mpc91 what public hands is that wealth in? I certainly haven't seen it.

[mpc91]

@Ejwoods08 - the Federal Budget has gone from just over $2 trillion in 2000, to about $3.5 trillion this year.

Maybe you just aren't looking... or maybe you don't want to see it. Because it's really, really, really tough to miss.

[centurion180ad]

If you just fork over everyone's dollars to the God damn bankers, there is then no incentive for them to create any loans to earn an income. Since they have it all already, they'll just wait for the market to tank and buy off everyones labor and real property for pennies on the dollar.

[saeidmomtahan]

Not to bring religion into this, but she's another brilliant Jew.

Greetings from Iran

[khavarian]

@saeidmomtahan Brilliant? She's intelligent and nothing should be taken away from her efforts. But to label her a "brilliant Jew" calls into question the west's media projection of images and ideologies associated therewith. Iran has long suffered because of communist and Zionist interests -- not not bring religion into the geopolitical theater.

[MrTomniall]

Naomi could have been talking about Ireland in 2010. Crony capitalism is alive and well here. The IMF are upon us and now we are in structural adjustment. We've lost our sovereignty to the EU.

[jpkm123]

@MrTomniall

Speaking as an Irishman, you're being very simplistic there. Those of us who railed against going into euro where shouted down by the rest of the fucking morons in the country. Cue too low interest rates, cue an asset boom, cue a government taking half of the revenues of the construction industry in taxes, which they used to ensure the median taxpayer in Ireland paid an effictve tax rate of 4%, checked money at the public sector and welfare. Revenues gone, expenses remain.

[Reido2828]

@MrTomniall

Ireland makes me sick now. Your a liberal country now that has been reduced to street shit

[bluetablepainting]

What is being called "rage" is to a great extent just "voter involvement". Like a fever, it is the body's reaction to a destructive element. It has yet to reach its zenith. After that it will smooth out.

[goodatbasebal]

Naomi Klein conflates Corporatism with Free Markets. She literally has no idea what she is talking about half the time. But her "thesis" seems to only apply to right wing politics and not Green Energy which she seems to think cannot be applied to her own ideals... It's interesting how hypocrisy works these days.

[booley]

@goodatbasebal "Naomi Klein conflates Corporatism with Free Markets. "

That's probably because free markets as they are defined today leads inevitably to corporatism.

Take away the checks on corporations and eventually they figure out they can use that get even more power.

& if you had read Klein, she makes clear that the left could also have ideas "lying around" for disasters. They just don't.

Which is why green energy is still a slow starter even after all this time.

[goodatbasebal]

@booley No, protectionism leads to monopolies. There has never been a "Freemarket monopoly", please name one if it does come to mind.

" Buy American" or "Increase taxes on foreign imports" or my favorite " We need more regulation"

All of these policies lead to less competition & Big corporations can pay regulations and higher taxes while the smaller business cant. Or am I wrong? "& if you had read Klein, ...They just don't." Have you ever heard of the IPCC or Cap and Trade ? hmm...

[booley]

@goodatbasebal Yes protectionism can lead to monopolies. But so do unregulated markets (which is what you seem to mean by "free markets") & is much more common in our system

Every time an industry has been deregulated, a wave of consolidations follow. The monopolies of TR's time grew in large part because there were no rules to keep them in check. It took regulation to break them up.

In other words you ignored my point.. the free market as you define it destroys itself when implemented.

[goodatbasebal]

@booley Two points:Deregulation does not = Free Markets. Yes you can deregulate one part of a sector but still leave the rest of the regulations stay put. Free markets literally means "Free Markets" hence the name.

Name one Free market Monopoly which has done all this "destruction" . All I ask for is that you stop using anecdotal evidence and name one company/corporation that made all of this disaster that you claim.

[booley]

@goodatbasebal "Deregulation does not = Free Markets."

Then you better tell to that all the "free marketers" out there. Because whenever they talk about free market policies, deregulation is what they mean.

Free markets mean free is circular.

And moving the goal posts so that anything that refutes your argument gets ignored is fallacious

[booley]

@goodatbasebal Or to pu tit another way, it's getting a bit odd how people say we should do these policies for a free market, we do them and then it leads ot the exact opposite effect of what was predicted by it's advocates.

And yet those same advocates go on about how we still don't have a free market and we need MORE of the same policies we just did.

Eventually "free market" begins to look more faith based then fact based.

[booley]

@goodatbasebal and if you had read Klein, you would know that when they do disaster capitalism, one of the first things they do is remove the regulations.

Because that's what's keeping them from doing whatever they want. Small companies are protected when everybody has to follow the same rules.

[goodatbasebal]

@booley Hmmm Like I said, you may have "Deregulation" but that does not mean that market is completely free. The definition of technically means "liberalizing" but you cant call it a free market nor is it a freemarket when there is still so many regulations.

I have read klein & seen all of her videos, to be honest I saw all of them before even bothering to read the opposing view.

Please show me one time where your anecdotal evidence has been true. You keep giving me faith based evidence.

[booley]

@goodatbasebal I got a better idea.

Define what you mean by free market. It seems to mean whatever you need it to mean at that time

You seem at odds with those that push "free market" policies.

As for an example of deregulation leading to more consolidation, the telecommunications act signed by Clinton is one.

Plus saying my position is faith based right after I said your position looked faith based, kind of unoriginal, isnt' it? Like going "I'm not, YOU ARE."

[goodatbasebal]

@booley "example of deregulation... is one." try reading anything that does not have a leftist slant that actually defines what a free market is. Preferably one by Ludwig V. Mises, Adam Smith, F.A Hayek .

You're understanding of Free Markets can only be likened to that of a Chinese Censor claiming Chinese men & women are"Free to speak". The same argument are not only put forth by Klein, but all leftist who conflate 2 similar, but irrelevant events.

They call it "checkmate" when that happens.

[booley]

@goodatbasebal BTW, if you need a more comprehensive account of how "free market reforms" destroys competition and leads to consolidation and "monopolies", then you already have it.

You said you read all of Kleins books.

This is a common theme in her work. Which makes me wonder how you kept missing it.

In any case, No Logo at around pg 159

[goodatbasebal]

@booley Sadly you can't seem to be unable to get out of the box you're still in. I don't mean that in a condescending tone but rather I say it in the way that you're arguments are being put forth, which are inherently one sided and self aggrandizing.

I'm not sure why you began your tirade on my views insofar that you began to liken my personal views to those of Neo-Cons & other protectionists in our country.

You still can't name one time where Monopolies are true under free markets. Ironic?

[centurion180ad]

2-party system Democrat Republican, Liberal Conservative, is ALL LIES!

BANKERS ARE THE ENEMY

Focus on BANKERS. Eliminate BANKERS.

Destroy Federal Reserve System. Eliminate irredeemable debt currency and its associated fractional reserve system.

[Taobert]

I agree these two should make a pay-per-view lesbian sex video and use that money to cut the national deficit in half

[Taobert]

Speaking of the uselessness of university education, just consider the fact what they teach is within the framework of our current system. They don't teach that our system is wrong of course, they teach only how to work within and reap the benefits and keep the machine moving. Just more indoctrination

[ujean56]

chickenrat101 What are your credentials? Why shouldn't unionized workers get paid $50.00 an hour? No skin off your nose. Maybe you could join a union too and make a better living. Or are you independently wealthy?

[chickenrat101]

Naomi Klein is absolutely clueless when it comes to Economics and Politics. I don't know why anybody pays attention to her. She wants union workers getting paid 50 dollars an hour. She's a nut.

[centurion180ad]

@chickenrat101 Ms. Klein is articulate & sexy. She’d be a good (hetero) lover. I wish her mane was longer. She is correct in that the mass murdering Debt Syndicate, is slaughtering people and plundering entire national economies.

Bankers are ALL CRIMINALS, and our government are 99% banker's WHORES.

[chegvra]

Klein is probably so brilliant bec she doesn't have a college degree. She comes from a family of intelectuals and went to the U of Toronto. You elitist idiots need to get that brainwashing by the eductional-industrial complex, that tells you that degrees give you legitimacy. I know hundreds of idiots with degrees that don't know anything the corporate media doesn't spoon feed them.

[OnenessNow]

Naomi Klein is an amazing voice for truth an justice on our planet.

The bankers use disasters to transfer public assets to private holders.

[v0ltz74]

klein is a charlatan

[sunshineuk1965]

two of my favorite women .. yay

[publicanimal]

Naomi Klein doesn't even have a college degree. How is she considered worthy of an interview?

[DuffmanIRL]

@publicanimal Its because she's smarter than the likes of you. I have a college degree and am pretty well read and I respect her. Grow up.

[torontokid2006]

@publicanimal hahahaha! what a dumb comment XD

[BarackHOsama]

Naomi Klein is somewhat correct, but she needs to go one step forward. True, disasters changes the way corporations behave, but the the root of the problem is the government. Corporations merely reflect the desires of the people. If people want iPhones, they vote for them through purchases. The government, through their infinite wisdom, cause the problems by "bailing out" corporations. Or by protectionist policies. What cause the bust? Greed? No, poor government polices (i.e. low interest rates)

[gorgorybmus]

@BarackHOsama - When you say poor government policies do you also mean the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?

[sharpraiderbrown]

dont agree with her myopic ideas, but i sure would like to make a jackson pollack on her face. ;p

[bapsy078]

@sharpraiderbrown ewwwww!!!!!! haha!

[whitesox889]

youtube Johan Norberg vs. Naomi Klein and The Shock Doctrine

[burntout84]

Klein correctly identifies a lot of the problems but mistakenly blames capitalism for the crisis. Capitalism didn't set interest rates much too low which lured Americans into the arm time bomb. The government did. The federal reserve did. The problems come from government, not the free market. So for people to say that we should give them more power and more authority with more regulations? And don't listen to Krugman. We need spending cuts tax cuts alone wont work and we need sound money

[jr937dog]

Rachel you look like a boy

[lisabob22]

@jr937dog pretty is as pretty does. And Rachel is very smart and she is right almost always. Jealous??

[fomastephanovitch]

Her intro sounds more like an incumbent administration which leaps straight into my mind despite my being aware that her book is yet another platitudinous and disingenuous left-wing rant against personal freedom from bureau-fodder nannies like Naomi Klein.

If I were a wet liberal I'd want to keep her off TV so people don't notice how dumb she is. Just like the anthropogenic global warming alarmists, they've chosen a dreadful ambassador, completely unarmed and untrained for the intellectual fray.

[H204Real]

I concur!

[AudioForAnarchists]

And yet, not a single substantive point made... Not even ONE. Just unrestrained hateful rhetoric carefully fostered by right-wing hate-mongers.

[kingofqwerty]

@AudioForAnarchists The right wing is of course intellectually bankrupt, they can only appeal to emotion as a smoke screen to conceal the truth.

[lisabob22]

@fomastephanovitch you have any sources that proves anything Klein says is wrong? Please post them if you do. Your words mean nothing without proof to back up your opinion.

[fomastephanovitch]

@lisabob22

No. What I say and what she says are the same thing. Opinion.

Put it this way: does Klein make an adequate argument that Milton Friedman is wrong? - No, she just performs a character assassination on him.

Her views are populist. 50 million Frenchmen can indeed be wrong.

[truevoice08]

Seriously, Klein and Maddow could have contributed more to 'social welfare' by becoming pornstars instead of propagandizing for the economically ignorant left.

[nogod65]

@truevoice08, interesting proposal, but I bet your bitches might make better pornstars. or you

[truevoice08]

I find this woman to be so ignorant in basic economics that the stereotype of a dumb pornstar immediately comes to mind. I am strangely attracted by her passion of social justice coupled with leftist ignorance of the means to achieve it.

[oldcodger451]

.I thought this discussion was about the banks .What difference ,does their religion make! This is about "wall street " mentality, that because they deal with billions of dollars every day, they know best. henry paulson started this bailout under bush, it did not start under obama. paulson, worked for goldman sacs, ya know, the ones who brought the great republican depression of the 1930's, and this one! Current treasury sec, tim geithner is cut from the same cloth.Bankers! not jews! RACIST!

[oldcodger451]

This woman is spot on.The bailout may or may not have been the right thing to do,based on banks"too large to fail", but if they are too large to fail, then they are "too large to exist" and need to be broken up.

[peeairoh]

many conservative ideas talked about liquidizing the assets and breaking up the conglomerates.

[Antiks72]

Well yeah, and there should have been heads rolling as a result of that. Not corporate heads, unless they did something against the law. Politician heads should roll, because they engineered this via deregulation.

[oldcodger451]

You're right that political heads should roll,but so should the people that allowed it to happen,which is the high roller gamblers playing in the glitzy casinos called wall street

[StorminNormin1977]

@Antiks72 The ultimate deregulation is paper money. A gold standard would be the ultimate regulation in a free market, where the consumer regulates by real money flowing to real honest production.

[StorminNormin1977]

@oldcodger451 I think that all this jabber can be solved by a free market that starts with honest money. If you remove the printing press and follow the constitution it gets much harder to perform this "magic".

[H204Real]

One more thing. Remove the right of corporations to claim the status of an "artificial person". Make them work for their money by treating people with accountability. Corporations are not people, they are profit making monsters who hang out with the agendas of international banksters who are in MORAL DEBT.

[paulsamuel1]

too short! Racel had to cut it short almost when Naomi was in the middle of her thought. too bad, but great to hear her.

[tsocanuck]

Smart and beautiful canadian naomi

[herodotall]

$454 million AIG bonus money from the bailout.

More than enough money for many school voucher programs all throughout the US. A Program cut from the budget by Obama and Staff.

[bulbheadmyass]

Most of the AIG money went to bailout Goldman Sachs 100 cents on the dollar. Goldman Sachs alumn engineered the AIG heist.

[BlueTunisia]

"Hey maybe those bailouts were a bad idea.. come to think of it, I can't even say how many zeros are in the number "trillion" off the top of my head.. But man do I love Obama!"

These people are so silly.

[scottthrees]

Do you really think that Obama is behind giving these crooks this bailout money... Your so silly... Do you know anything of the money masters? You poor manipulated tool. I feel silly for you.

[bbburton]

Just when I was starting to like what Klein was saying, she suggests that the bail out should have been more closely tied to the Obama socialist programs.

[JimmyeDallas]

Nah, public works programs have never worked into getting nations out of severe economic downturn. Wait a second.....

[bbburton]

Yup, you're right.

[JimmyeDallas]

I hope you detected my sarcasm. Otherwise you are as ignorant as a baby, fresh from the whom.

[bbburton]

If you weren't so intent on keeping that penis in your mouth, you might be able to concentrate on educating yourself before you swallow.

[JimmyeDallas]

Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and then your eyes could see something other than shit.

[bbburton]

Ooohhh, the longer you keep that penis in your mouth, the less time you have to use your brain for something other than a repository of ignorance.

[JimmyeDallas]

Using the same penis joke twice makes what you say all the more ironic.

[bbburton]

It seems to work on you, you keep replying with that same stupid penis in your mouth.

[frepi]

MMMmmm Naomi...Talk about brightness and beauty all wrapped in one person...

[h1k2b3]

Obama picked the cabinet that would be his own ending, The Clinton Cabinet! And she will probably run again! I do not see him as naive, I see him as mixed-up.

[ZGangsta]

Yes!! I have been dying to hear Naomi on this issue for months now. Great work Rache!!

[437thx1138]

A lot of big money doesn't like Naomi. A really good book on how dirty deals get done when we are at our weakest. Yeah she's cute too. lol

[vonOhzu]

Can't concentrate... Klein too cute...

[kelseywall]

She would punch you in the face for saying that.

[sirfith]

She is married to Avi "The US kills abortion doctors" Lewis.

[xhagast]

The hope of the US is that when the banks be healthy again, government profits from it. It should make out like a bandit. BUT, the finantial players and the banks will STILL get to survive comfortably this crisis they created. So, if things go bad WE suffer and they maybe survive. And if things go well the government and the banks profit heavily.

The Romans were corrupted but they used to get their money by robbing somebody else.

[Itsnotthisitsnotthat]

yah talk about whose pulling the strings, like the Federal Reserve. Come on Naomi, you're just like Paul Krugman, too afraid to publicly talk about whose really behind this crisis. Wheres Peter Schiff and Ron Paul when you need them. Forget about handouts, its the FED is whose going to destroy the dollar if they keep printing money. Talk about the real problem please.

[Corporations8MyBaby]

keep repeating that libertarian oversimplification based on unproven assertions... when Ron Paul's audit of the FED comes out... you all will be disappointed. Meanwhile your "free market" is totally corrupt. Naomi is talking Keynes not only for economic stim. but for wall street re-regulation. Underregulated Cony Capitalism: That's the REAL PROBLEM.

[BlueTunisia]

How's capitalism the problem? People become greedy so they have to build companies and products to sell to the public?

I'd say socialism is the real problem- like in 1998 whenever Alan Greenspan bail out wall street in the first place. The same bank mangers and banks you base these anti-capitalism accusations on would have been stop 10 years ago if capitalism would have been follow and they'd allowed them to fail.

It's Socialism through the central bank that keeps these crooks in business.

[JimmyeDallas]

America's central bank is private, not national; so you have no idea what you're talking about.

[BlueTunisia]

That's more or less just a plug in for conspiratory videos, and frankly I never 100% trust that source either way, but still, that information really isn't very relevant, itself.

The Fed is still chartered by the US government to act as the establish central bank of the reserve system for the US through the Federal Reserve Act of 1914.

[Corporations8MyBaby]

Yep. "The fed is a foreign agent of a world domination cult"-that's another libertarian unicorn, or maybe Loch Ness monster. There are so many videos asserting these things & none of their acolytes ever *research* those claims. They say "you can't find out because the NWO keep it all a secret". yeah? well how the F do you know then? &what does "warning" me about something you don't know do for me or anyone else? You want to end central banking? Fine. Do it through the democratic process. vote.

[Corporations8MyBaby]

UN or UNDER-REGULATED captialism. get it?It's a form of royalism. Exxon & Wal*Mart make it to the top and destroy all smaller businesses. We saw that in the late 1800s. It was no longer capitalism. What America makes america great is A balance of Capitalism and Public Commons. Libertarians are very "all or nothing" ... which never works. They have a fantasy about this unicorn called the "totally free market" as if human nature/behavior doesn't exist.

[Itsnotthisitsnotthat]

how is it based on unproven assertions? The government is eroding the American standard of living via an inflationary monetary policy. The Fed is destroying the dollar. How many people have pointed this out? lets see, Milton Friedmen, Ralph Nadar, Anna Swartz, Susan Woodward, Robet Hall, the list goes on.

Watch this video of Alan Grayson asking the Federal Reserve Inspector General questions: watch?v=PXlxBeAvsB8

It will be a cold day in hell before the Fed allows us to see what they're doing.

[Corporations8MyBaby]

^ lmao! See? Proves my point. I get directed to a youtube vid as "proof" & then "itsnotthis.." says "It will be a cold day in hell before the Fed allows us to see what they're doing."** So then how does he know they are "eroding the american standard of living?" He just proved we don't. He merely believes it. Like bigfoot, or alien anal probes. Prove that the fed creates inflation, next prove the fed's actions are not improving our standard of living. Actual Proof. Not the mass fear on the net.

[rochesterpopulist]

kudos to Naomi for always speaking truth to power

[bbbbmer]

thank GOD for naomi klein!!!! she is a GREAT American!!!!!

[subnivean]

Umm... she's Canadian.

[leesagrrl]

subnivean:

Good on her anyway!!!

[subnivean]

Haha-- fair enough.

[bbbbmer]

Canadians are American too... Btw, she's a Harvard grad, a Rhodes Scholar, has taught at Harvard, and is smarter than almost any other on air news host, and certainly more knowledgeable than ANYTHING right wing media has to offer... and your point is???

[subnivean]

I wasn't making a point. I was stating a fact. Why so defensive?

[leesagrrl]

bbbbmer:

Ease up, friend. I think we're all on the same side here.

And I think you might be describing the Talented, Insanely Intelligent, Forthright and Lovely Ms. Maddow... right?

He was describing the other "Talented, Insanely Intelligent, Forthright and Lovely gal... Naomi!

[singforyoursanity1]

@subnivean Indeed. 

[bonfirejovi]

@subnivean and an economic illiterate to boot.

[pilotamurorei]

And people STILL ignore what Karl Marx said in the communist manifesto? Idiots.

[kargenlewis]

spitzer was outed and made to resign because he was going after wallstreet crooks. the same crooks that now work in the white house under obama.

it is great how the real crooks take turns pardoning each other or refuse to prosecute anything.

[kargenlewis]

wake up people. the super corporations rape you daily any way they can. natural disasters just make it easier. they will fuck you any way they can!

the plastic faced lady is making a lot of money on her book just stating the obvious. yeah they are fucking us everyday! increasing profits yearly to the end of time means you and i are expendable cattle.

[Zakdayak]

Plastic face is Joan Rivers, not Noami Klein.