Well the Muslims claim their God is the same as the Christian God. So what are you saying your God is not correct and He; your God, has errors in the bible?
and it also raises a question why would God give something in that kind of language that cant even be translated right ,lets use Moses and laws which God gave ,if you translate it to any language any dialect it cannot loose its meaning it always has the same meaning,but your claim here is that words in Qur'an when translated lose its meaning ,or are not translated right ,then why don't scholars translate it right.
Sientefic or not they dont know better than GOD the' creator of heavens and earth. If God says the moon has its own light the dont argue with god because he is the creator of everything and he is always right. You are missleading people and the one who does that is a antichrist and anti GOD!
I agree with you that God Almighty knows better than His creation and I thank you for your comment. However, the point is that God never said that the moon has it's own light, because today's Bible is no longer the original revelation of God.
It's well known in the scientific community that the moon does not have it's own light, but rather reflects the light, and that's what is mentioned in the Glorious Qur'an, the only valid and true word of God.
in arabic 10:5 says "هو الذي جعل الشمس ضياء والقمر نورا" Quran here gives two descriptions, Sun (Deyaa:own light) and moon (Noora:reflected light) ... Let's check 71:16 "وجعل القمر فيهن نورا وجعل الشمس سراجا" here again gives two descriptions : Moon (Noora:reflected light) and Sun (Seraaja:own light like a fire tourch arabs call it seraaj) .. Quran is correct ... Bible is wrong !
@QuranNet So according to him Allah is just reflection of muhammed because Allah in quran is called noor(reflected light) and muhammed was called siraajan(lamp) so muhammed is sun and Allah is moon lol.
@zilexxx That's a different description, it is describing a man (human), seraaj and muneer. u can't say that a human being is seraaj wahaaj (a man giving glowing light?) that would have been a mistake. the word muneer is used because the prophet's light is the light of guidance, truth. Regarding 24:35, read the full verse! it uses the word (mathal) meaning the example of his noor is like a (meshkah) and there is a (mesbah) inside it ! so we are talking about wide meaning of light here (belief)
@QuranNet I dont think you understand very well word noor as you claim only means reflected light ,in the end Allahs is only reflected light ,it is given example of that light but it still is reflected light as you claim,it is not broader meaning of the word noor it is what it is,linguistically you are incorect,second than i congratulate you for finding the mistake in quran because muhammed is described as dazzling ligh thank you.
@zilexxx by the way, Mohammed peace be upon him is not described as a glazing or dazzling light ! he is seraaj (something u can't live without like the sun) but is he glazing or glowing? no ! the Quran say (Muneer) which means a light of belief and guidance to humanity ! so your claim is wrong and Quran is absolutely correct in using the right word ! Noor is simply not like Deyaa .. if u don't understand arabic/Quranic literature, that's ur problem, not the Quran or our problem ! ;)
@QuranNet In the end if noor can have broader meaning as you claim then it does not have to mean reflected light ,because you quran here used the word noor for allah as light ,than that same word can mean something giving light and not just reflect it in both cases you are wrong.
@zilexxx Part 1/2:u didn't get the point, when it's about the sun & moon Quran gives 2 description for their light because their light is not the same. when it's about Allah, we don't know the nature of his light because if it is real light we would have been able to see glowing light all day and night ! but, the light of Allah is unlike any light known to us so the word noor is used here. in arabic langauge noor doesn't literally mean "reflected" light, arabic language is very rich in wording.
@QuranNet i dont think you see the point because word noor is used to describe nature of allah (the light )and if you claim that noor is reflective light then you claim that allah is only reflective light but reflected from what maybe from lamp (sun) maybe allah is moon.and that is the problem with arabic you can give many meaning to one word but it does not have to mean that and only blind faith is used to confirm something that might or may not be true.
@zilexxx Part 2/2: the light of Allah can be found in Mosques as stated in the next verse 24:26 ! so the light in the mosque is not glowing light! it is the light of belief and guidance and submission to Allah, the word noor is perfect to describe the above! also read 24:40 [And he to whom Allah has not granted light - for him there is no light.] also read 57:28 [ He will [then] give you a double portion of His mercy and make for you a light by which you will walk and forgive you] noor is used !
@QuranNet and again according to you if noor is used to describe faith and guidance then allah is one who believes and who is guided because Allah is the noor it just creates contradiction !
@zilexxx it is funny that a non-arabic speaking person argues about an arabic word with an arabic-speaking person! Noor and Deyaa are 2 arabic words that translate into "Light" but are they having the same meaning ? No ! That's why they are 2 words. Again & Again u miss understand ! I never said Allah is guided because he is the one who guides and reveals the message to messengers. read carefully [Allah is the light (noor)] read the full verse carefully and the next verses up to 24:40
@QuranNet I dont need to understand arabic to understand that what you are talking about is nonsense ,you choose the meaning of the word as you want it to be not as it is ,and it s all based on the blind faith also read my post before.
@zilexxx perfect sense, the Quran gives 2 different words to describe the light of the sun, and the light of the moon, one is seraaj, deyaa, wahaaj (SUN) all of these words mean glowing torch .. while the moon is always described as noor ! explain to us why the Quran didn't say sun and moon are both deyaa, or both noor? why 2 different words ? so now it is YOU who is not making sense at all .. complete non-sense. we say 1+1=2 and it is taking u 1 day to understand it ! and still didn't ! part1/2
@QuranNet you can find a man who became the father of one branch of science just by reading the bible Matthew Fontaine Maury,but muslim only talk about scientific miracles when some christian Jew, Buddhist discover it lol,My personal opinion is that islam makes people dumb while they were conquering their science was based on the science of conquered ,Persians ,Egyptians ,in Spain Jews,and when they could not conquer anymore they got dumber and dumber,Islam destroyed greatest civilizations.
@QuranNet you can find a man who became the father of one branch of science just by reading the bible Matthew Fontaine Maury,but muslim only talk about scientific miracles when some christian Jew, Buddhist discover it lol,My personal opinion is that islam makes people dumb while they were conquering their science was based on the science of conquered ,Persians ,Egyptians ,in Spain Jews,and when they could not conquer anymore they got dumber and dumber,Islam destroyed greatest civilizations.
@QuranNet Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create! yusuf ali,Then fashioned We the drop a clot, then fashioned We the clot a little lump, then fashioned We the little lump bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, pickhtal
@zilexxx Read the arabic text, the word (modgha) means a chewed piece of flesh or meat. in the beginning. No mistake at all. the word Lahma used later refers to muscles. Again, read the Quran carefully before making any claim, otherwise u will end up like those people who used to comment just like u and then suddenly disappeared ! also note the different arabic words used to link each phase with the other. Also note the use of the arabic word (Kaswna) which is KEY in the verse.
@QuranNet ahahahahaha so chewed meat a lump ok then bones then flesh ahahahahahahahahaha,you just proved my point go do some scientific research ahahahahahahahaha.
@zilexxx I am not chosing the meaning I want it to be, this is my mother language and I know exactly each word, arabic langauge is a very rich language and i don't care if a non-arabic speaking person doesn't get the full picture. Noor is never used in the Quran to describe the sun, and Deyaa/seraaj/wahaj is never used to describe the moon, don't u get it ? it doesn't require u to be a genius here, very simple for anyone using 1% of his brain ;) no mistake in the Quran from cover to cover
@QuranNet ahahahaha really no mistake then i guess mountains are what keeping earth from shaking even doe they create earthquakes ,and a lot of earthquakes are in mountain areas ,or bones are created before flash,or Adam is a Giant which reminds me a lot of book of enoch even doe adam wasnt a giant but children of fallen angels were there is a lot of similarities in Qur'an with Enoch,like parts were copied from it,also sperm comes from backbone and ribs ,why dont muslims cut of their testicles.
@QuranNet ahahahaha really no mistake then i guess mountains are what keeping earth from shaking even doe they create earthquakes ,and a lot of earthquakes are in mountain areas ,or bones are created before flash,or Adam is a Giant which reminds me a lot of book of enoch even doe adam wasnt a giant but children of fallen angels were there is a lot of similarities in Qur'an with Enoch,like parts were copied from it,also spe rm comes from backbone and ribs ,why dont muslims cut of their testicles.
@zilexxx once again u prove that u r really misguided, the Quran never say bones before flesh, as usual this claim comes from people who don't read the Quran carefully, or simple repeat what other losers say ! Those who tried to find one single mistake in the Quran ended up either becoming muslims, or becoming CRAZY. u still didn't answer why the Quran gives 2 different descriptions for the sun & moon ?!
@QuranNet then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh,” (Surat Al-Mu'minûn (The Believers):14) you still did not answer is Allah noor only reflected light ,is Allah moon.so every translation is like that also i said to you it cannot be from god if it cannot be translated and you are puting that claim on the table ,why muslim schoolars dont translate it right also find me one muslim who used the Quran to make a scientific discovery
@QuranNet then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh,” (Surat Al-Mu'minûn (The Believers):14) you still did not answer is Allah noor only reflected light ,is Allah moon.so every translation is like that also i said to you it cannot be from god if it cannot be translated and you are puting that claim on the table ,why muslim schoolars dont translate it right also find me one muslim who used the Quran to make a scientific discovery
@zilexxx u claim that I didn't answer whether Allah is reflected light or not, ur question proves that after 24 hours of discussion the result is zero.
@QuranNet No i just got better understanding how muslim mind works ,and i thank you very much for it ,for me atleast is not zero ,i am going to bed now lol,then yo very much ahahahahaha.
@zilexxx of course u have to sleep or disappear, as I said earlier that whoever tries to find a mistake in the Quran will end up either becoming a muslim, or become crazy ! or simply disappear and never show up again ! if u r serbian then it makes sense! serbians are known to be very slow in understanding. it makes perfect sense why u r mixing the facts and continuously not getting any point at all ! flesh then bones then flesh? LOL read carefully.
@QuranNet i am reading Yusuf Ali and Pickhtall and all other translators and ,and they all agree with me or you are saying that they don't understand Arabic or what ,i dont need to read the quran ,because i know that its a lie,you should read book of enoch and maybe it will come to you also read the bible and gnostic documents and it will come to you,also read second century rabinic children story about Solomon and it will come to you.
@zilexxx Don't read it, Allah tells us that hell will be filled with disbelievers, if all people become believers then who will go to hell? note that I still haven't discussed the horrible mistakes of the bible, there are more than 100 MAJOR mistakes in the bible that STILL no chrisitan can explain or answer.
@QuranNet Well there should be mistakes because it is written with human hand ,i wouldn't expect it otherwise ,can you please just tell me what city are you from.
@zilexxx By the way translations of the Quran, for example in English, in some verses it just can't translate the exact arabic literature, like the story of sun and moon light. but in arabic it is clear without confusion. Arabic language is so rich in literature. Deyaa, seraaj, noor, all translate into light. which is not 100% correct ! what do u want translators to do? invent new english words? that's why they sometimes put explanations between brackets [....] trying to match the arabic words
@QuranNet And for me that is BS ,If God is who created all languages ,and if he gives his word to a prophet it should be easy to understand and to translate yet it cant according to you ,for me thats just one more proof that it cannot be from God !
@zilexxx it is easy to understand and translate, the proof : millions of people from non-arabic nations became muslims without reading the arabic Quran. Americans, British, Asians, and also Serbians. Many christian scholar and jews ..etc. All became mulsims without reading arabic! it is just certain verses that required reference and understanding (ex. sun and moon light) and this is why translators put explanations between brackets (ex. [reflected light])
@zilexxx regarding ur question about languages. we all know that literature of one language can't be easily translated into others. for example Serbian poem can't be translated into other languages having the same literature value ! but the general idea or look could be similar. agree? :)
@QuranNet no you can translate poetry but you cant get the rime ,we are not talking about poetry or something that is riming we are talking about a book of ordinary words that should be translated easily.
@QuranNet Lol ok i really don't care because you and i know that noor is not the reflected light and arabic word for reflected light is in`ikaas ,read the book of Enoch ,and learn something about Quran,i ve got work to do tomorow ,going to sleep
@zilexxx if the word in'ikaas was used instead of noor, it would have been a big literature mistake ! the only perfect word to use to describe either the light of the moon, or the light of islam, or the light of guidance and righteousness, is the word NOOR. the word deyaa (associated with sun) can't be used for that purpose at all. So the Quran is 100% correct. Allah's light is described as noor because He is the One who provides and gives all of the above including the message if Islam.
@QuranNet How would something that is scientifically correct when applied to a moon would be literally incorrect lol,i mean it would feet the context quite well ,there would be no mistake ,the problem is that you think about the book as poetry not as just book with words and sentences,because it is all that Qur'an is,did you read book of Enoch also read the Sanhedrin 37a rabinic commentary that is copied from talmud to Quran and has nothing to do with divine .
@zilexxx again, u r not an arabic speaking person, the word "noora" is perfectly used compated to "inikas" .. this is our language. we are talking about the highest text of arabic literature here, so don't tell us which word is better than others. The word "noora" is 100% correct since it gives the appropriate exact meaning needed in the verse. u mentioned that Quran is poetry LOL Quran does not fall in any of the arabic poet categories ! .. Quran is not considered poetry.
@QuranNet well if allah tels it it must be truth allah said manny things even that he will cut of muhammeds aorta if he forges his word and in the end muhammed said that he feels his aorta being cut off so it must be truth.
@zilexxx My Serbian friend :) think differently, can't u see the Quran in more than one verse challenges people to produce the like of it (in arabic) ? read 17:88 [Say, "If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like of it, even if they were to each other assistants."] have u ever read a book that makes a similar challenge ? and still live up to the challenge ?
@QuranNet I wonder how people can even think about that seriously ,can you make a symphony similar to Mozart's if you cant it must be from God ,for me that verse is Just stupidity.can you just tell me where you live at least are you from Saudi Arabia
@zilexxx Music can be remixed, remade .. etc. it also can be redone digitally on computers by different people making different cover versions! what we are talking about here is a text similar to Quran in terms of literature. Quran came in the golden age of arabic literature, Yet, not a single arabic scholar until today could produce just one Surah similar to that of Quran.
@zilexxx u r not getting the point. music is another story. if some artist make a symphony today and sold billion copies then there will be fans considering him the best ever ! it will be subjective. Now give me some text produced recently better than Quran where people say : HEY this is better ! :)
The Quran says that sperm is generated in the Backbone[Quran 86:6]. This idea was proposed by Greek scientists, and copied by Mohammed. If we had copyright laws 1400 years ago, Mohammed would have been jailed for copyright infringement and there would be no Islam today.
Jesus is king of the universe no matter what u say, u need child-like faith not all this bull ur on about. u make it hard when its so so simple ur wasting ur time and everyone elses, get a life, A REAL LIFE will u
Peace be with you. I have read the verses that you have cited in your video and listened closely to your statements. It appears that the Bible tells us that God, in His infinite wisdom, created 2 great lights-the greater to rule the day, and the lesser to rule the night. Science has proven that the moon reflects the light of the sun--making it a source of lesser light during the night. I am not seeing where there is a conflict. Please explain if you will.
@suziestar777 JESUS PBUH IS NOT KING BUT MESSAIH...HE IS ONE OF THE PROPHET OF ALLAH...IF U REALLY LOVE JESUS CHRIST PBUH THAN EMBRACE HIS RELIGION(SUBMITION TO GOD=ISLAM)
@suziestar777 So what youre saying is, that even if the bible is FULL of flaws, has proven to have fabrications ( ref : The Revised Standard Version ), and contains whole chapters that are not in the original manuscripts or the dead sea scrolls, you STILL believe that to be Gods infallible word. Guess who needs to get a life ?
What nonsense he is talking... The sun has his own light, the light which comes from the sun is of many gases and flames....That's the reason it looks so bright.... and it's the source of light for whole solar system. And the moon light we are seeing is the light which falls from the sun... Bible is never corrupted or fake. Before questioning bible, study properly....
you are not getting the point. Bible states that there are two lights one of moon and the other of sun. But moon has sun's light moon dosent hve its own light.. Moon reflect sunlight wich is not moonlight.. moon has no light of its own but bible says moon has its own light..
@susik26 Did you listen to one thing he said? We know, and he said, that the sun produces it's own light. Here is the part you seem to not want to hear: The bible refers to the moon as the lesser light. But it has no "gases or flames". It is not a source of light. Your "omniscient" god seemed to forget that the moon only reflects light and is NOT its own source of light. Chances are you won't get that.
i think the better reply for u is to watch the video carefully 2 understand what he says bible says sun and moon has its own light for sun its true but how about the moon?
try 2 understand the truth.do not shut your eyes before the truth,try to study your religion,if you feel its right accept it.use your brain
Is not He (best) Who made the earth a FIXED ABODE, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein, and hath set a barrier between the two seas? Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but most of them know not! S. 27:61 Pickthall
Clearly from this verse the earth does not orbit around the sun but of course it does.
Well the Muslims claim their God is the same as the Christian God. So what are you saying your God is not correct and He; your God, has errors in the bible?
mustangpassurchevy 1 month ago
and it also raises a question why would God give something in that kind of language that cant even be translated right ,lets use Moses and laws which God gave ,if you translate it to any language any dialect it cannot loose its meaning it always has the same meaning,but your claim here is that words in Qur'an when translated lose its meaning ,or are not translated right ,then why don't scholars translate it right.
zilexxx 5 months ago
Sientefic or not they dont know better than GOD the' creator of heavens and earth. If God says the moon has its own light the dont argue with god because he is the creator of everything and he is always right. You are missleading people and the one who does that is a antichrist and anti GOD!
DezertRosee 6 months ago
@DezertRosee
I agree with you that God Almighty knows better than His creation and I thank you for your comment. However, the point is that God never said that the moon has it's own light, because today's Bible is no longer the original revelation of God.
It's well known in the scientific community that the moon does not have it's own light, but rather reflects the light, and that's what is mentioned in the Glorious Qur'an, the only valid and true word of God.
qwerty0019 6 months ago 2
Wait so this guy claims God created lamps befor he created people? is he fucking retarded?
Babylauncher3000 7 months ago
in arabic 10:5 says "هو الذي جعل الشمس ضياء والقمر نورا" Quran here gives two descriptions, Sun (Deyaa:own light) and moon (Noora:reflected light) ... Let's check 71:16 "وجعل القمر فيهن نورا وجعل الشمس سراجا" here again gives two descriptions : Moon (Noora:reflected light) and Sun (Seraaja:own light like a fire tourch arabs call it seraaj) .. Quran is correct ... Bible is wrong !
QuranNet 10 months ago
@QuranNet So according to him Allah is just reflection of muhammed because Allah in quran is called noor(reflected light) and muhammed was called siraajan(lamp) so muhammed is sun and Allah is moon lol.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@QuranNet Sura 33:45-46 muhammed (lamp) wa siraajan muneeran,Sura An-Noor 24:35 Allah is the Light (noor) of the heavens and the earth
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx That's a different description, it is describing a man (human), seraaj and muneer. u can't say that a human being is seraaj wahaaj (a man giving glowing light?) that would have been a mistake. the word muneer is used because the prophet's light is the light of guidance, truth. Regarding 24:35, read the full verse! it uses the word (mathal) meaning the example of his noor is like a (meshkah) and there is a (mesbah) inside it ! so we are talking about wide meaning of light here (belief)
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet I dont think you understand very well word noor as you claim only means reflected light ,in the end Allahs is only reflected light ,it is given example of that light but it still is reflected light as you claim,it is not broader meaning of the word noor it is what it is,linguistically you are incorect,second than i congratulate you for finding the mistake in quran because muhammed is described as dazzling ligh thank you.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx by the way, Mohammed peace be upon him is not described as a glazing or dazzling light ! he is seraaj (something u can't live without like the sun) but is he glazing or glowing? no ! the Quran say (Muneer) which means a light of belief and guidance to humanity ! so your claim is wrong and Quran is absolutely correct in using the right word ! Noor is simply not like Deyaa .. if u don't understand arabic/Quranic literature, that's ur problem, not the Quran or our problem ! ;)
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet In the end if noor can have broader meaning as you claim then it does not have to mean reflected light ,because you quran here used the word noor for allah as light ,than that same word can mean something giving light and not just reflect it in both cases you are wrong.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx Part 1/2:u didn't get the point, when it's about the sun & moon Quran gives 2 description for their light because their light is not the same. when it's about Allah, we don't know the nature of his light because if it is real light we would have been able to see glowing light all day and night ! but, the light of Allah is unlike any light known to us so the word noor is used here. in arabic langauge noor doesn't literally mean "reflected" light, arabic language is very rich in wording.
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet i dont think you see the point because word noor is used to describe nature of allah (the light )and if you claim that noor is reflective light then you claim that allah is only reflective light but reflected from what maybe from lamp (sun) maybe allah is moon.and that is the problem with arabic you can give many meaning to one word but it does not have to mean that and only blind faith is used to confirm something that might or may not be true.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx Part 2/2: the light of Allah can be found in Mosques as stated in the next verse 24:26 ! so the light in the mosque is not glowing light! it is the light of belief and guidance and submission to Allah, the word noor is perfect to describe the above! also read 24:40 [And he to whom Allah has not granted light - for him there is no light.] also read 57:28 [ He will [then] give you a double portion of His mercy and make for you a light by which you will walk and forgive you] noor is used !
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet and again according to you if noor is used to describe faith and guidance then allah is one who believes and who is guided because Allah is the noor it just creates contradiction !
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx it is funny that a non-arabic speaking person argues about an arabic word with an arabic-speaking person! Noor and Deyaa are 2 arabic words that translate into "Light" but are they having the same meaning ? No ! That's why they are 2 words. Again & Again u miss understand ! I never said Allah is guided because he is the one who guides and reveals the message to messengers. read carefully [Allah is the light (noor)] read the full verse carefully and the next verses up to 24:40
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet I dont need to understand arabic to understand that what you are talking about is nonsense ,you choose the meaning of the word as you want it to be not as it is ,and it s all based on the blind faith also read my post before.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx perfect sense, the Quran gives 2 different words to describe the light of the sun, and the light of the moon, one is seraaj, deyaa, wahaaj (SUN) all of these words mean glowing torch .. while the moon is always described as noor ! explain to us why the Quran didn't say sun and moon are both deyaa, or both noor? why 2 different words ? so now it is YOU who is not making sense at all .. complete non-sense. we say 1+1=2 and it is taking u 1 day to understand it ! and still didn't ! part1/2
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet you can find a man who became the father of one branch of science just by reading the bible Matthew Fontaine Maury,but muslim only talk about scientific miracles when some christian Jew, Buddhist discover it lol,My personal opinion is that islam makes people dumb while they were conquering their science was based on the science of conquered ,Persians ,Egyptians ,in Spain Jews,and when they could not conquer anymore they got dumber and dumber,Islam destroyed greatest civilizations.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@QuranNet you can find a man who became the father of one branch of science just by reading the bible Matthew Fontaine Maury,but muslim only talk about scientific miracles when some christian Jew, Buddhist discover it lol,My personal opinion is that islam makes people dumb while they were conquering their science was based on the science of conquered ,Persians ,Egyptians ,in Spain Jews,and when they could not conquer anymore they got dumber and dumber,Islam destroyed greatest civilizations.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@QuranNet Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create! yusuf ali,Then fashioned We the drop a clot, then fashioned We the clot a little lump, then fashioned We the little lump bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, pickhtal
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx Read the arabic text, the word (modgha) means a chewed piece of flesh or meat. in the beginning. No mistake at all. the word Lahma used later refers to muscles. Again, read the Quran carefully before making any claim, otherwise u will end up like those people who used to comment just like u and then suddenly disappeared ! also note the different arabic words used to link each phase with the other. Also note the use of the arabic word (Kaswna) which is KEY in the verse.
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet ahahahahaha so chewed meat a lump ok then bones then flesh ahahahahahahahahaha,you just proved my point go do some scientific research ahahahahahahahaha.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx I noticed from ur channel that ur serbian from people comments, are u serbian?
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet Yep and proud of it!
zilexxx 5 months ago
@QuranNet Yo was that some kind of threat ,hm well i hope it is!
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx threat? what threat are u talking about ! LOL this is a discussion nobody make threat here
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet No i am just hoping it is i like to be threatened ,you know my Job is to deal with threats.especially international threats.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx I am not chosing the meaning I want it to be, this is my mother language and I know exactly each word, arabic langauge is a very rich language and i don't care if a non-arabic speaking person doesn't get the full picture. Noor is never used in the Quran to describe the sun, and Deyaa/seraaj/wahaj is never used to describe the moon, don't u get it ? it doesn't require u to be a genius here, very simple for anyone using 1% of his brain ;) no mistake in the Quran from cover to cover
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet ahahahaha really no mistake then i guess mountains are what keeping earth from shaking even doe they create earthquakes ,and a lot of earthquakes are in mountain areas ,or bones are created before flash,or Adam is a Giant which reminds me a lot of book of enoch even doe adam wasnt a giant but children of fallen angels were there is a lot of similarities in Qur'an with Enoch,like parts were copied from it,also sperm comes from backbone and ribs ,why dont muslims cut of their testicles.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@QuranNet ahahahaha really no mistake then i guess mountains are what keeping earth from shaking even doe they create earthquakes ,and a lot of earthquakes are in mountain areas ,or bones are created before flash,or Adam is a Giant which reminds me a lot of book of enoch even doe adam wasnt a giant but children of fallen angels were there is a lot of similarities in Qur'an with Enoch,like parts were copied from it,also spe rm comes from backbone and ribs ,why dont muslims cut of their testicles.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx once again u prove that u r really misguided, the Quran never say bones before flesh, as usual this claim comes from people who don't read the Quran carefully, or simple repeat what other losers say ! Those who tried to find one single mistake in the Quran ended up either becoming muslims, or becoming CRAZY. u still didn't answer why the Quran gives 2 different descriptions for the sun & moon ?!
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh,” (Surat Al-Mu'minûn (The Believers):14) you still did not answer is Allah noor only reflected light ,is Allah moon.so every translation is like that also i said to you it cannot be from god if it cannot be translated and you are puting that claim on the table ,why muslim schoolars dont translate it right also find me one muslim who used the Quran to make a scientific discovery
zilexxx 5 months ago
@QuranNet then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh,” (Surat Al-Mu'minûn (The Believers):14) you still did not answer is Allah noor only reflected light ,is Allah moon.so every translation is like that also i said to you it cannot be from god if it cannot be translated and you are puting that claim on the table ,why muslim schoolars dont translate it right also find me one muslim who used the Quran to make a scientific discovery
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx u claim that I didn't answer whether Allah is reflected light or not, ur question proves that after 24 hours of discussion the result is zero.
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet No i just got better understanding how muslim mind works ,and i thank you very much for it ,for me atleast is not zero ,i am going to bed now lol,then yo very much ahahahahaha.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx of course u have to sleep or disappear, as I said earlier that whoever tries to find a mistake in the Quran will end up either becoming a muslim, or become crazy ! or simply disappear and never show up again ! if u r serbian then it makes sense! serbians are known to be very slow in understanding. it makes perfect sense why u r mixing the facts and continuously not getting any point at all ! flesh then bones then flesh? LOL read carefully.
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet i am reading Yusuf Ali and Pickhtall and all other translators and ,and they all agree with me or you are saying that they don't understand Arabic or what ,i dont need to read the quran ,because i know that its a lie,you should read book of enoch and maybe it will come to you also read the bible and gnostic documents and it will come to you,also read second century rabinic children story about Solomon and it will come to you.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx Don't read it, Allah tells us that hell will be filled with disbelievers, if all people become believers then who will go to hell? note that I still haven't discussed the horrible mistakes of the bible, there are more than 100 MAJOR mistakes in the bible that STILL no chrisitan can explain or answer.
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet Well there should be mistakes because it is written with human hand ,i wouldn't expect it otherwise ,can you please just tell me what city are you from.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx By the way translations of the Quran, for example in English, in some verses it just can't translate the exact arabic literature, like the story of sun and moon light. but in arabic it is clear without confusion. Arabic language is so rich in literature. Deyaa, seraaj, noor, all translate into light. which is not 100% correct ! what do u want translators to do? invent new english words? that's why they sometimes put explanations between brackets [....] trying to match the arabic words
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet And for me that is BS ,If God is who created all languages ,and if he gives his word to a prophet it should be easy to understand and to translate yet it cant according to you ,for me thats just one more proof that it cannot be from God !
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx it is easy to understand and translate, the proof : millions of people from non-arabic nations became muslims without reading the arabic Quran. Americans, British, Asians, and also Serbians. Many christian scholar and jews ..etc. All became mulsims without reading arabic! it is just certain verses that required reference and understanding (ex. sun and moon light) and this is why translators put explanations between brackets (ex. [reflected light])
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet o believe me if it is easy it would not be questioned neither possible to be questioned .
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx regarding ur question about languages. we all know that literature of one language can't be easily translated into others. for example Serbian poem can't be translated into other languages having the same literature value ! but the general idea or look could be similar. agree? :)
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet no you can translate poetry but you cant get the rime ,we are not talking about poetry or something that is riming we are talking about a book of ordinary words that should be translated easily.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx most of the Quran translations I read put the description [reflected light] between brackets, so there is no problem at all.
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet Lol ok i really don't care because you and i know that noor is not the reflected light and arabic word for reflected light is in`ikaas ,read the book of Enoch ,and learn something about Quran,i ve got work to do tomorow ,going to sleep
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx inikas? LOL go to bed man !
QuranNet 5 months ago
@zilexxx if the word in'ikaas was used instead of noor, it would have been a big literature mistake ! the only perfect word to use to describe either the light of the moon, or the light of islam, or the light of guidance and righteousness, is the word NOOR. the word deyaa (associated with sun) can't be used for that purpose at all. So the Quran is 100% correct. Allah's light is described as noor because He is the One who provides and gives all of the above including the message if Islam.
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet How would something that is scientifically correct when applied to a moon would be literally incorrect lol,i mean it would feet the context quite well ,there would be no mistake ,the problem is that you think about the book as poetry not as just book with words and sentences,because it is all that Qur'an is,did you read book of Enoch also read the Sanhedrin 37a rabinic commentary that is copied from talmud to Quran and has nothing to do with divine .
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx again, u r not an arabic speaking person, the word "noora" is perfectly used compated to "inikas" .. this is our language. we are talking about the highest text of arabic literature here, so don't tell us which word is better than others. The word "noora" is 100% correct since it gives the appropriate exact meaning needed in the verse. u mentioned that Quran is poetry LOL Quran does not fall in any of the arabic poet categories ! .. Quran is not considered poetry.
QuranNet 5 months ago
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@QuranNet Let me ask you something do you like your stomach being filled with puss or poetry.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@QuranNet well if allah tels it it must be truth allah said manny things even that he will cut of muhammeds aorta if he forges his word and in the end muhammed said that he feels his aorta being cut off so it must be truth.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx My Serbian friend :) think differently, can't u see the Quran in more than one verse challenges people to produce the like of it (in arabic) ? read 17:88 [Say, "If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like of it, even if they were to each other assistants."] have u ever read a book that makes a similar challenge ? and still live up to the challenge ?
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet I wonder how people can even think about that seriously ,can you make a symphony similar to Mozart's if you cant it must be from God ,for me that verse is Just stupidity.can you just tell me where you live at least are you from Saudi Arabia
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx Music can be remixed, remade .. etc. it also can be redone digitally on computers by different people making different cover versions! what we are talking about here is a text similar to Quran in terms of literature. Quran came in the golden age of arabic literature, Yet, not a single arabic scholar until today could produce just one Surah similar to that of Quran.
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet Ok i just open copy machine and put pages of Arabic Quran in it and voila.
zilexxx 5 months ago
@zilexxx u r not getting the point. music is another story. if some artist make a symphony today and sold billion copies then there will be fans considering him the best ever ! it will be subjective. Now give me some text produced recently better than Quran where people say : HEY this is better ! :)
QuranNet 5 months ago
@QuranNet Read the Book of Enoch ,
zilexxx 5 months ago
@QuranNet and youll get where the ideas in quran came from ,or where the Adam as Giant came from .or where the Hell came from.
zilexxx 5 months ago
The Moon was created to light the night?
Then why is it sometimes "up" during the day.
Why is it so often missing from the night sky?
That would be bad design by serving it's purpose only half the time. Magic fails again.
AllusiveAtheist 11 months ago
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The Quran says that sperm is generated in the Backbone[Quran 86:6]. This idea was proposed by Greek scientists, and copied by Mohammed. If we had copyright laws 1400 years ago, Mohammed would have been jailed for copyright infringement and there would be no Islam today.
islamfalse 11 months ago
Basically, the Bible is saying the Moon gives its own light, and Islam suggests in the Quran the light is reflected!
StamfordSupernova 1 year ago
ARE YOU CHRISTIAN ?..
THEN PLEASE CHECK THIS ERROR IN THE BIBLE YOURSELF THEN DECIDE BY HEART... PLEASE BE POSITIVE.... GOD CANNOT BE FALSE!
199hussain 1 year ago
Jesus is king of the universe no matter what u say, u need child-like faith not all this bull ur on about. u make it hard when its so so simple ur wasting ur time and everyone elses, get a life, A REAL LIFE will u
suziestar777 1 year ago
@suziestar777
1) You need proof for what you wrote
2) It's completely off-topic. We are here discussing the scientific error "Light of the Moon" in today's Bible
qwerty0019 1 year ago
@qwerty0019
Peace be with you. I have read the verses that you have cited in your video and listened closely to your statements. It appears that the Bible tells us that God, in His infinite wisdom, created 2 great lights-the greater to rule the day, and the lesser to rule the night. Science has proven that the moon reflects the light of the sun--making it a source of lesser light during the night. I am not seeing where there is a conflict. Please explain if you will.
7deepbreaths 11 months ago
@suziestar777 JESUS PBUH IS NOT KING BUT MESSAIH...HE IS ONE OF THE PROPHET OF ALLAH...IF U REALLY LOVE JESUS CHRIST PBUH THAN EMBRACE HIS RELIGION(SUBMITION TO GOD=ISLAM)
ahmedzahir12345 1 year ago
@suziestar777 So what youre saying is, that even if the bible is FULL of flaws, has proven to have fabrications ( ref : The Revised Standard Version ), and contains whole chapters that are not in the original manuscripts or the dead sea scrolls, you STILL believe that to be Gods infallible word. Guess who needs to get a life ?
pakifighter 7 months ago
What nonsense he is talking... The sun has his own light, the light which comes from the sun is of many gases and flames....That's the reason it looks so bright.... and it's the source of light for whole solar system. And the moon light we are seeing is the light which falls from the sun... Bible is never corrupted or fake. Before questioning bible, study properly....
susik26 2 years ago
Please watch closely again the video and its quotations
qwerty0019 2 years ago
you are not getting the point. Bible states that there are two lights one of moon and the other of sun. But moon has sun's light moon dosent hve its own light.. Moon reflect sunlight wich is not moonlight.. moon has no light of its own but bible says moon has its own light..
EbeerIglesias 2 years ago
@susik26 Did you listen to one thing he said? We know, and he said, that the sun produces it's own light. Here is the part you seem to not want to hear: The bible refers to the moon as the lesser light. But it has no "gases or flames". It is not a source of light. Your "omniscient" god seemed to forget that the moon only reflects light and is NOT its own source of light. Chances are you won't get that.
ev0lv3n0w 1 year ago
@susik26
i think the better reply for u is to watch the video carefully 2 understand what he says bible says sun and moon has its own light for sun its true but how about the moon?
try 2 understand the truth.do not shut your eyes before the truth,try to study your religion,if you feel its right accept it.use your brain
rsh1211 1 year ago
Is not He (best) Who made the earth a FIXED ABODE, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein, and hath set a barrier between the two seas? Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but most of them know not! S. 27:61 Pickthall
Clearly from this verse the earth does not orbit around the sun but of course it does.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
the blind telling the blind where to see
lourencosf 2 years ago
Exacty. And Genesis 1:16 is a obvious scientifical erros. Elsewhere, in the Psalm 136:8-9, we are informed about the sun and the moon :
The sun to rule by day:
for his mercy endureth for ever:
The moon and stars to rule by night:
for his mercy endureth for ever.
roxor1080 3 years ago
Typical now Mistranslations of verse by some arrogant Christians. What will be next bribing Scientists to say that Bible has Scientific Truths!
Nazmul99 4 years ago