haden is better now and was better then he was a shutdown corner faceing the likes of aj green and julio jones wilson didnt play people with even 40% of their skill/athletism thats the sorry truth of it
Joe Haden by a landslide!!! The is a pure athlete. He got recruited as Quarterback!!! Never played defense in his entire life until he got to Florida!! his rookie year in the nfl he recorded 6 interceptions and what did kyle wilson do
@whiteboy88521993 actually Haden defended WRs in the SEC not the ACC. so yeah the SEC is even tougher, SEC is toughest conference in college football. just look at whos doing what in the pros. Joe Haden in the most recent ESPN top 50 players list is listed as #32 on it, and hes the 2nd corner on the list, 2nd only to Revis, and hes only halfway through his 2nd nfl season. Haden shits on Wilson.
joe haden a monster and much better then wilson because thats y cleveland trusted him to start the rest of their season.....but wilson still is a great corner and will eventually be a great corner on count he get to learn from revis and cromarty
Haden wayyyy better then that bum Wilson, your all smoking crack argueing Wilson is better, stats dont lie. Haden only has 1 more start over wilson but has 6 interceptions 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, and 60 somthing tackles. Wilson has like 20 tackles and 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles, 0 interceptions.
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs Not to disagree with a fellow Dawg Pound member for stats for CBs are without a doubt the worse stats to judge a player for and if any stats lie its CBs stats. Look at DeAngelo Hall for example, 4 INTs in one game against a INT Machine in Cutler. He had 2 throughout the rest of the season and 22 passes defended. One game got him into the pro bowl this year, he was attacked a lot throughout the season.
Haden had 6 picks this season and didn't start everygame statisticly if he puts up 6 picks a year and plays 10 years that makes him a hall of famer also he has many years to become even better he has the potential to be as good as the best of them
if you put them up against the best receivers neither one would out shine the other by a landslide because theyre both the best corners in the NCAA at their time but wilson is faster and more quick than haden, haden's good but the reason he saves himself on different plays is from his football smarts
Joe Haden hasn't played every game this season, because Eric Wright started in front of him, but he was able to put up better statistical numbers than Devin Mccourty regardless of that fact, Joe should get those votes next year, and would've made the Pro Bowl this year if he played for a playoff caliber team. Also, he didn't give up as many touchdowns as Devin McCourty .
Browns fan here. Haden has been very solid. He should be finally starting this week opposite Sheldon Brown. Eric Wright has been horrible with his coverage this year.
I like Joe Haden (obviously), but he fails at dancing. That was ugly. Anyways, you win with either. They're similar in style. Haden's just maybe a little faster. I'd say the better pick was Wilson, though, because he went late first, while Haden went 7th overall. Either way, both are monsters and I'd take either. That's about as unbiased as I can be.
No I'd be crazy to argue about it....I'm an Idahoan so of course I'm gonna go for Kyle. Not gonna argue about WHO he played against...just gonna say he did work against the ones he HAD to play. KDUB LOVE ALL THE WAY!!!
wilson is not a better cover corner. joe the best cover corner in ncaa. if wilson played the teams that florida plays then he wouldnt have the highlights hes got. wilson defends weak ass players and joe defends they best recievers. put them up against the same recievers and joe would pull it out by a land slide. if joe haden defended those weak ass players that wilson defends ten joe would of went first pick first round in the nfl draft his freshman year
this comparison is an insault to football period...no question joe haden is on another level...kyle wilson didnt even go up against real challenges..joe haden by far...case close
i personally think Haden was a better pick.i never saw him go less then his full poetential. he would go hard on every play and play smart. he wouldnt just go for big hits.he would try to get a pick or just wrap up with the guy instead of those dumb shoulder tackles.Haden would take on the best receiver on that team and shut them down.i dont know much about Wilson except his highlights, but i would go with Haden.
The one who was getting it done against the likes of Bama, Georgia, LSU, FSU, Ohio State, Auburn, Miami, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee. Going up against Troy Smith, Sam Bradford, Ryan Mallet, Erik Ainge, Christian Ponder, Matthew Stafford; Julio Jones, Green from UGA, Iglasias and company at OU, Gonzalez from OSU.
I am going to put my money on the guy who for three years was going against those teams, those QBs, and those receivers.
I'v Been A Jet Fan For The Last Ten Years, And I Went to The First Public OTA'S, And Watched Kyle WIlson And He's The Kind Of Player That If He Messes Up, He Goes Straight To Revis and Ask Revis What He Did Wrong, Most Determined Rookie On The Team. This Kid Is Always Taken Notes And Is Always Up Revis's Ass! lol Thats A Kind Of Rookie Corner Back That I Want On My Team! Cant Wait To see What This Kid Has To Offer! J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!
kyle wilson, best cover corner in ncaa thats all that matters in nfl, speed doesent get you far, look at deangelo hall, those werent even wilsons best highlights, but anyways hes better
@brennan4646......Joe Haden ran a 4.56 at the combine thats not blazing, obviously scouts seen more than that 4.56 combine speed......there is a reason one went #7 and the other #29
@UrGatorBaitFLA Ya, prob the same reason Jamarcus Russell went # 1 he's from the sec. Wilsons better. But I'm sure Haden will fare better then Russell
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs a CB with 0 passes defended and 0 INTs that starts every game is much better than a CB with 20 and 4 INTs. You simply cant judge a CBs play by stats. Now, obviously Haden is a better CB than Wilson and arguably was top 10 last year. He should have started after the Cincy game, Wright had no business starting after that. Haden is also arguably better than McCourty but McCourty played great and started all season so he gets the nod. Looking ahead Haden has more potential.
@brennan4646 You mean best cover corner in the mountain-west or whatever the hicktown league boise st. is in.You cant call him the best when he didnt cover the best on a consistent basis like haden.
@brennan4646 lol where you at boy? 2nd year in the NFL and what is Wilson doing? Whats Haden doing? oh yea, in a ESPN top 50 poll, Wilson wasnt even on it, and Haden was the 2nd corner on the list, with only Revis being better.
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs You must remember what team Kyle wilson plays on. That espn power rankings list you keep bringing has 2 of Wilsons teamates in the Top 15 for corners. Revis at #1 and Cromartie at #12. His competition is tremendous. Its kinda hard to make a name for yourself when you get limited snaps as a nickel back. Hadden plays on a team that ranked one of the worst in pass defense. Its easy to look like a star when your surrounded by lesser competition.
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs Yeah that was this year. Of course they'll improve after he gets there. but sadly before haden, the browns ranked 29th in the league in pass defense. As to the jets at 6. Yeah he made a difference but like i said before. its easy to spot a roster in a kennle full of hens. Put Haden on New York and see how he fairs. not much better then wilson i can assure that.
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs You highly doupt it? So by that Logic you think he would start over and out perform Dareell Revis, antonio cromartie and kyle wilson. I dont deny that the guy is a tremendous talent but to say that is beyond me
@l9o6p7a3k4a I do think haden is better then cromartie and would start over him. Revis is clearly the better corner at this stage of there careers, but I do believe haden has a higher ceiling then where he is now. you must remember he has only been playing corner for what 4-5 years now total now. before college he was a QB. ESPN's top 50 had haden second only to revis.
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs You are Smoking some good crack if your think Haden is a better corner then cromartie as of right now. With all cromarties experiance and size. haden is just a burner. His fundamentals are very poor and he Flat foot reads way to much. If you watch his highlights most of his interceptions are off of under thrown balls that he used his speed to recover to after being beat off the line or shook off due to his poor fundementals.
@clevelandorangedawgs go back and watch his high school highlights. he played quarterback and free safety.
Donniesamba74 2 months ago
haden is better now and was better then he was a shutdown corner faceing the likes of aj green and julio jones wilson didnt play people with even 40% of their skill/athletism thats the sorry truth of it
headstrong420 2 months ago
@herqueles4 actually he played qb and free safety in high school so he has played defense before going to Florida
Donniesamba74 2 months ago
@Donniesamba74 haden never played on the defensive side of the ball until college, he himself has said that.
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 2 months ago
Joe Haden by a landslide!!! The is a pure athlete. He got recruited as Quarterback!!! Never played defense in his entire life until he got to Florida!! his rookie year in the nfl he recorded 6 interceptions and what did kyle wilson do
herqueles4 4 months ago
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This is not even up for discussion
DJA216 4 months ago
What is the name the song from the beginning?
MrSomaelking 6 months ago
My Boy Haden
igger31 8 months ago
HAHHAHAHAHAH IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE?????
HADEN IS FOR SURE 100 AND 10% bEETER THEN WILSON IS!!!!!!
WHY IS SAY THAT IS!! IS CUZ!
WHO THE FUCK DID WILSON HAVE TO COVER IN COLLEGE???
NO1! HIS DIVISON IS SHIT!
BUT YOU LOOK AT HADEN! HE HAD TO TAKE ON THE BEST OF THE BEST OF THE ACC!!!
SO I SAY FUCK WILSON AND BOISE STATE FAGS!!!
GO TCU<3
whiteboy88521993 10 months ago
@whiteboy88521993 actually Haden defended WRs in the SEC not the ACC. so yeah the SEC is even tougher, SEC is toughest conference in college football. just look at whos doing what in the pros. Joe Haden in the most recent ESPN top 50 players list is listed as #32 on it, and hes the 2nd corner on the list, 2nd only to Revis, and hes only halfway through his 2nd nfl season. Haden shits on Wilson.
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 3 months ago
lol Joe Haden vs a scrub is what the title should be.
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 11 months ago
joe haden a monster and much better then wilson because thats y cleveland trusted him to start the rest of their season.....but wilson still is a great corner and will eventually be a great corner on count he get to learn from revis and cromarty
idntlose 1 year ago
Haden wayyyy better then that bum Wilson, your all smoking crack argueing Wilson is better, stats dont lie. Haden only has 1 more start over wilson but has 6 interceptions 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, and 60 somthing tackles. Wilson has like 20 tackles and 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles, 0 interceptions.
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 1 year ago
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs Not to disagree with a fellow Dawg Pound member for stats for CBs are without a doubt the worse stats to judge a player for and if any stats lie its CBs stats. Look at DeAngelo Hall for example, 4 INTs in one game against a INT Machine in Cutler. He had 2 throughout the rest of the season and 22 passes defended. One game got him into the pro bowl this year, he was attacked a lot throughout the season.
EternalWolf86 1 year ago
so who won?
dwayne459 1 year ago
Haden had 6 picks this season and didn't start everygame statisticly if he puts up 6 picks a year and plays 10 years that makes him a hall of famer also he has many years to become even better he has the potential to be as good as the best of them
XxAUSTINxXGAMER9449 1 year ago
if you put them up against the best receivers neither one would out shine the other by a landslide because theyre both the best corners in the NCAA at their time but wilson is faster and more quick than haden, haden's good but the reason he saves himself on different plays is from his football smarts
cb281000 1 year ago
Joe Haden hasn't played every game this season, because Eric Wright started in front of him, but he was able to put up better statistical numbers than Devin Mccourty regardless of that fact, Joe should get those votes next year, and would've made the Pro Bowl this year if he played for a playoff caliber team. Also, he didn't give up as many touchdowns as Devin McCourty .
LastCalltoBoogie 1 year ago
Whats the first song?
rober0193 1 year ago
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Haden is having the far better year 4 picks!
pax4cheap 1 year ago
haden is having the far better year 4 picks!
pax4cheap 1 year ago 3
joe haden ftw
clevebrown37 1 year ago
devin mccourty is better than both of them..look how he improves the patriots secondnary right away.
raykob95 1 year ago
Browns fan here. Haden has been very solid. He should be finally starting this week opposite Sheldon Brown. Eric Wright has been horrible with his coverage this year.
ucfknights2005 1 year ago
I like Joe Haden (obviously), but he fails at dancing. That was ugly. Anyways, you win with either. They're similar in style. Haden's just maybe a little faster. I'd say the better pick was Wilson, though, because he went late first, while Haden went 7th overall. Either way, both are monsters and I'd take either. That's about as unbiased as I can be.
HardcoreGator 1 year ago
No I'd be crazy to argue about it....I'm an Idahoan so of course I'm gonna go for Kyle. Not gonna argue about WHO he played against...just gonna say he did work against the ones he HAD to play. KDUB LOVE ALL THE WAY!!!
BroncoAshley 1 year ago
wilson is not a better cover corner. joe the best cover corner in ncaa. if wilson played the teams that florida plays then he wouldnt have the highlights hes got. wilson defends weak ass players and joe defends they best recievers. put them up against the same recievers and joe would pull it out by a land slide. if joe haden defended those weak ass players that wilson defends ten joe would of went first pick first round in the nfl draft his freshman year
Bigbird2005 1 year ago 15
kyle wilson sucks he played at boise state were they played nobody
smook2331 1 year ago
this comparison is an insault to football period...no question joe haden is on another level...kyle wilson didnt even go up against real challenges..joe haden by far...case close
marshman4lyfe 1 year ago
kyle...hands down!
BroncoAshley 1 year ago
@BroncoAshley
your crazy
Bigbird2005 1 year ago
wat song is that....
vl7788 1 year ago
i personally think Haden was a better pick.i never saw him go less then his full poetential. he would go hard on every play and play smart. he wouldnt just go for big hits.he would try to get a pick or just wrap up with the guy instead of those dumb shoulder tackles.Haden would take on the best receiver on that team and shut them down.i dont know much about Wilson except his highlights, but i would go with Haden.
ZachaferK 1 year ago
The one who was getting it done against the likes of Bama, Georgia, LSU, FSU, Ohio State, Auburn, Miami, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee. Going up against Troy Smith, Sam Bradford, Ryan Mallet, Erik Ainge, Christian Ponder, Matthew Stafford; Julio Jones, Green from UGA, Iglasias and company at OU, Gonzalez from OSU.
I am going to put my money on the guy who for three years was going against those teams, those QBs, and those receivers.
gatorsidney 1 year ago
still joe haden is a a all around athlete
schaefer4sports 1 year ago
Wilson had two things for him he knows how to play cover and he has revis and cromartie to talk to
Akamindfreak 1 year ago
joe hadden i better
Xxjmasta419xX 1 year ago
I'v Been A Jet Fan For The Last Ten Years, And I Went to The First Public OTA'S, And Watched Kyle WIlson And He's The Kind Of Player That If He Messes Up, He Goes Straight To Revis and Ask Revis What He Did Wrong, Most Determined Rookie On The Team. This Kid Is Always Taken Notes And Is Always Up Revis's Ass! lol Thats A Kind Of Rookie Corner Back That I Want On My Team! Cant Wait To see What This Kid Has To Offer! J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!
MrAngel1988 1 year ago
Wilson is like Asante samuel and Haden is like reevis they are booth very talented and will make it in the nfl but I think Haden is a better corner.
ShootYerEyeOut 1 year ago
kyle wilson hands down... haden is good...but K- WILL is beastley good at covering and tackling!!!!
jr503jr 1 year ago
kyle wilson, best cover corner in ncaa thats all that matters in nfl, speed doesent get you far, look at deangelo hall, those werent even wilsons best highlights, but anyways hes better
brennan4646 1 year ago 6
@brennan4646 You right this arent wilsons best highlights....for some reason i couldnt download some videos...I APOLOGIZE
PRiiMETiiME5 1 year ago
@PRiiMETiiME5 your welcome. A little credit please. vimeo.com/channels/kdub1
I haven't even done Soph. and Freshman year.
justfndoit 1 year ago
@brennan4646.....NFL scout did not argree with you
UrGatorBaitFLA 1 year ago
@UrGatorBaitFLA
obviously because of the speed thing, youll just have to see in the near future why passing on wilson was a mistake
brennan4646 1 year ago 2
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UrGatorBaitFLA 1 year ago
@brennan4646......Joe Haden ran a 4.56 at the combine thats not blazing, obviously scouts seen more than that 4.56 combine speed......there is a reason one went #7 and the other #29
UrGatorBaitFLA 1 year ago
@UrGatorBaitFLA Ya, prob the same reason Jamarcus Russell went # 1 he's from the sec. Wilsons better. But I'm sure Haden will fare better then Russell
wizecraca 1 year ago 2
@brennan4646 lol hadens way better dude.
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 1 year ago
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs a CB with 0 passes defended and 0 INTs that starts every game is much better than a CB with 20 and 4 INTs. You simply cant judge a CBs play by stats. Now, obviously Haden is a better CB than Wilson and arguably was top 10 last year. He should have started after the Cincy game, Wright had no business starting after that. Haden is also arguably better than McCourty but McCourty played great and started all season so he gets the nod. Looking ahead Haden has more potential.
EternalWolf86 1 year ago
@brennan4646 look at hall he is a beast
jrock8693 1 year ago
@brennan4646 You mean best cover corner in the mountain-west or whatever the hicktown league boise st. is in.You cant call him the best when he didnt cover the best on a consistent basis like haden.
RockAfella73 10 months ago
@brennan4646 lol where you at boy? 2nd year in the NFL and what is Wilson doing? Whats Haden doing? oh yea, in a ESPN top 50 poll, Wilson wasnt even on it, and Haden was the 2nd corner on the list, with only Revis being better.
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 3 months ago
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs You must remember what team Kyle wilson plays on. That espn power rankings list you keep bringing has 2 of Wilsons teamates in the Top 15 for corners. Revis at #1 and Cromartie at #12. His competition is tremendous. Its kinda hard to make a name for yourself when you get limited snaps as a nickel back. Hadden plays on a team that ranked one of the worst in pass defense. Its easy to look like a star when your surrounded by lesser competition.
l9o6p7a3k4a 1 week ago
@l9o6p7a3k4a ummm your wrong. Clevelands pass defense ranked higher then the new york jets. the Browns were #2 in pass defense. LOL
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 1 week ago
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs Yeah that was this year. Of course they'll improve after he gets there. but sadly before haden, the browns ranked 29th in the league in pass defense. As to the jets at 6. Yeah he made a difference but like i said before. its easy to spot a roster in a kennle full of hens. Put Haden on New York and see how he fairs. not much better then wilson i can assure that.
l9o6p7a3k4a 1 week ago
@l9o6p7a3k4a i highly doubt that. You obviously haven't watched much of Haden in the league. Dude balls.
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 1 week ago
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs You highly doupt it? So by that Logic you think he would start over and out perform Dareell Revis, antonio cromartie and kyle wilson. I dont deny that the guy is a tremendous talent but to say that is beyond me
l9o6p7a3k4a 1 week ago
@l9o6p7a3k4a I do think haden is better then cromartie and would start over him. Revis is clearly the better corner at this stage of there careers, but I do believe haden has a higher ceiling then where he is now. you must remember he has only been playing corner for what 4-5 years now total now. before college he was a QB. ESPN's top 50 had haden second only to revis.
ClevelandOrangeDawgs 1 week ago
@ClevelandOrangeDawgs You are Smoking some good crack if your think Haden is a better corner then cromartie as of right now. With all cromarties experiance and size. haden is just a burner. His fundamentals are very poor and he Flat foot reads way to much. If you watch his highlights most of his interceptions are off of under thrown balls that he used his speed to recover to after being beat off the line or shook off due to his poor fundementals.
l9o6p7a3k4a 3 hours ago