@gregoryeaston yeah buddy the ktm 450sx is 363lbs with a all chromolly steel frame the ktm 450xc is 351lbs with a chromolly steel frame and the peice o shit can am is 349lbs with a weak all aluminum bolted frame that has been know to bend when landing and also can a website says 349lbs ( DRY WEIGHT) ktm says no fual so it still has oil etc in it so it will weight more and ktm still has more hp and is better in every way! dont be a dick either buddy its the internet!
@supaflydopeness no its not ou obviously dont race performance iseverything and honda doesnt have it honda has horrible suspension and is too narrow for racing its a pos
@rc8rsracer i wouldnt say performace is everything as much as rider skill... but yes the 450r comes too narow for amature mx racing.... bur even pro rides that ride ktm get different a arm and shocks so isnt that big of a deal... hey the 450r suspension is good for stock... at least its not as bad as my 700xx front shocks
@ps3dethman1 nah i hate my 450r with passion suspension wise the pros change them because theyre sponsored thats the only reason but at the pro level performance is key but at our level its all about the rider
@ps3dethman1 no way it needs way more than just shocks im gettin a ktm 450sx more than likely for next year if not for the honda houser pro series a arms and fox shox for them front and rear and a durablue x 33 eliminator axle
@rc8rsracer well i was talkin for all around riden... id stick with the 450r.... ktm are powerfull but they need alota maintance..... but there just a reliable as honda if not more...
@ps3dethman1 yeah true but ktm has 50 hp stock and every performance part stock they are basically a fully built quad in stock form thats why they require so much maintenance and i neeed to sell he honda to afford a ktm theyre 11k
@Trx450rallday i love honda and trx450r, but you gotta agree all honda quads look ugly as fuck stock, lol. the ktm 450's stock look soooo good dude. i have a honda 400ex myself, honda everyday all day! but im just sayin honda quads look really ugly bone stock.
yeah u better re read that article cuz the ktm has more hp and it weighs the least out of all the 450's so yeah bhodgson84 is right the ktm is the fastest stock 450 out there. and they dont cost 11g's thats retail i got mine well under 11 g's
@rc8rsracer thats why ktm wins so many pro ama moto wins ...oh wait thats right they never have even been close to winning a pro title...??? i wounder why that is ?
@gregoryeaston ktm isnt in pros because of the economy ive rode both the can ams motor sucks dick and the ktm is better all round and btw can am has no championships only one win do you race? or are you getting your info from magazines and what others say?
@gregoryeaston ktm isnt in pros because of the economy ive rode both the can ams motor sucks dick and the ktm is better all round and btw can am has no championships only one win do you race? or are you getting your info from magazines and what others say
@gregoryeaston oh and i was talking about the bikes in stock form not modded and een than honda is only good for holeshos they always fall behind in the race
@gregoryeaston thts in the us. look at world moto and endurance and works. ktm has more championship the the japs have combined. so u get ur facts strait u fucking ass
the can-am does not have more hp, im at the track every weekend, ive seen the charts, ive ridden teh bikes, the ktm is faster. ask anyone who has half a clue bud.
my xc ran 12 motos in 1 weekend, a full race season on 1 piston. and its still going strong for the kid that bought it. the sx was perfect all year too
unreliable? i think not! look at the rest of my videos! i had a full season of practice and racing tqra pro class on it! and it is still kicking i had about 40 plus hours on a 13.5:1 cp piston in it and i just put a new one in it right before i sold it and had no parts wear out on me at all! and no motor trouble what so ever!
actually matt and inker traded places and the KTM still pulled on the trx. and Matt is sitting 3rd almost 2nd in the TQRA open expert class right now. Also...No one is on a KTM YET!!! bc they are so new! You just wait! Have you ridden one?? No..didnt think so!
maybe that ktm is faster and all but the thing is that atv is gonna live in the mechanic after a year, u better watch the AMA PRO ATV THERE IS NO EVEN ONE KTM!!!!
equals a total of 12450!!! looks like im the one out front and with 2k in my pocket! not sure on exact prices for all the stuff cuz i dont have to buy them any more but thats in the ballpark for stuff worth having
so lets check the price again
ktm 10500 depending on where ya get it and for a honda that still cant hang for 12450
@CaceDawn this is true, I work for KTM, you cant beat our free trackside serivice at GNCC's either. KTM makes more specific built quads then any of the Jap 4 companys.
Lmao last weekend at the Cooperland TQRA race he pulled 2nd out of 12 on the holeshot on his stock ktm. against all built motors the only one who beat him to the first corner was johnny hale on his 62hp Honda. So i doubt your honda has shit on his!
@CaceDawn those ktms are fucking fast i had one that i bought used then i started to modify it ended uo being a fully customized 590cc beast my new one im building is a 525cc building it to a monster 625cc dune/dirt quad
ok everyone quit there bitchen,,,,,, there both nice quads!
ryantrx450er08 10 hours ago
fuck your ktm
dgg1231 6 months ago
yea ktm!
MrTcamp42 8 months ago
@RovingLandRover lol i ride a honda you dumbass are you fullblown retarded
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@gregoryeaston yeah buddy the ktm 450sx is 363lbs with a all chromolly steel frame the ktm 450xc is 351lbs with a chromolly steel frame and the peice o shit can am is 349lbs with a weak all aluminum bolted frame that has been know to bend when landing and also can a website says 349lbs ( DRY WEIGHT) ktm says no fual so it still has oil etc in it so it will weight more and ktm still has more hp and is better in every way! dont be a dick either buddy its the internet!
colemanktm 1 year ago
I don't care about any of the shit talking that goes on the KTM 450sx and Honda Trx450r are both dominate kickass quads. It is all about preference.
supaflydopeness 1 year ago
@supaflydopeness no its not ou obviously dont race performance iseverything and honda doesnt have it honda has horrible suspension and is too narrow for racing its a pos
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@rc8rsracer i wouldnt say performace is everything as much as rider skill... but yes the 450r comes too narow for amature mx racing.... bur even pro rides that ride ktm get different a arm and shocks so isnt that big of a deal... hey the 450r suspension is good for stock... at least its not as bad as my 700xx front shocks
ps3dethman1 1 year ago
@ps3dethman1 nah i hate my 450r with passion suspension wise the pros change them because theyre sponsored thats the only reason but at the pro level performance is key but at our level its all about the rider
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@rc8rsracer lol did u ever get her back to get her.. u should get ur fronts resprung and re valved... it will be a whole ne quad
ps3dethman1 1 year ago
@rc8rsracer lol did u ever get her back to get her.. u should get ur fronts resprung and re valved... it will be a whole new quad
ps3dethman1 1 year ago
@ps3dethman1 no way it needs way more than just shocks im gettin a ktm 450sx more than likely for next year if not for the honda houser pro series a arms and fox shox for them front and rear and a durablue x 33 eliminator axle
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@rc8rsracer well i was talkin for all around riden... id stick with the 450r.... ktm are powerfull but they need alota maintance..... but there just a reliable as honda if not more...
ps3dethman1 1 year ago
@ps3dethman1 yeah true but ktm has 50 hp stock and every performance part stock they are basically a fully built quad in stock form thats why they require so much maintenance and i neeed to sell he honda to afford a ktm theyre 11k
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
either yfz 450 or ktm 525 cant beat them
Tom40blaster 1 year ago
@Tom40blaster cant beat them what? ktm is way too quicker.
BadAss450R11 1 year ago
Honda izzz the best quad out there and if u don't agree with that fukk u then!!!!!
Trx450rallday 1 year ago
@Trx450rallday i love honda and trx450r, but you gotta agree all honda quads look ugly as fuck stock, lol. the ktm 450's stock look soooo good dude. i have a honda 400ex myself, honda everyday all day! but im just sayin honda quads look really ugly bone stock.
58atvrider 1 year ago
@suzuki400boi
yeah u better re read that article cuz the ktm has more hp and it weighs the least out of all the 450's so yeah bhodgson84 is right the ktm is the fastest stock 450 out there. and they dont cost 11g's thats retail i got mine well under 11 g's
colemanktm 1 year ago 2
its not the lightest 450 the ds450 is
gregoryeaston 1 year ago
@gregoryeaston so the ktm kicks its ass the can ams motor suck dick
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@rc8rsracer thats why ktm wins so many pro ama moto wins ...oh wait thats right they never have even been close to winning a pro title...??? i wounder why that is ?
gregoryeaston 1 year ago
@gregoryeaston ktm isnt in pros because of the economy ive rode both the can ams motor sucks dick and the ktm is better all round and btw can am has no championships only one win do you race? or are you getting your info from magazines and what others say?
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
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@gregoryeaston ktm isnt in pros because of the economy ive rode both the can ams motor sucks dick and the ktm is better all round and btw can am has no championships only one win do you race? or are you getting your info from magazines and what others say
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@gregoryeaston oh and i was talking about the bikes in stock form not modded and een than honda is only good for holeshos they always fall behind in the race
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@gregoryeaston thts in the us. look at world moto and endurance and works. ktm has more championship the the japs have combined. so u get ur facts strait u fucking ass
JendrusZbojnik 1 year ago
@colemanktm no its not the lightest maybe you should check the factory web sites ???
ktm sx450 363 lbs
ds450 mxx 349 lbs eat shit do your research retard
gregoryeaston 1 year ago
you mean ktm has the highest HP from the factory!
CaceDawn 2 years ago 2
No, the Can-am make's like 2 more HP.
suzuki400boi 1 year ago
@suzuki400boi no it doesnt the can am has 42 hp and the ktm has 50
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@CaceDawn yes they does. my cousin have 5 of them
BadAss450R11 1 year ago
@CaceDawn yup it has it.
BadAss450R11 1 year ago
@CaceDawn yes it comes around 50hp from the factory
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
The KTM 450sx stock has the 2nd highest horsepower to that can-am 450. BUT the KTM's are 11 G's, so pick your poison.
suzuki400boi 2 years ago
@suzuki400boi
wrong, ktm has the hightest, by alot. ive seen dynoes and ridden both
bhodgson84 1 year ago
Okay, so your saying Dirtwheels Magizine is wrong? You can go on their website and read it.
suzuki400boi 1 year ago
@suzuki400boi
the can-am does not have more hp, im at the track every weekend, ive seen the charts, ive ridden teh bikes, the ktm is faster. ask anyone who has half a clue bud.
bhodgson84 1 year ago 2
Whatever you say man. It's your word against a proven article that's on the internet, im not gonna continue arguing on this subject, so fuck off.
suzuki400boi 1 year ago
@suzuki400boi
KTM 450SX has 46hp stock
DS450X MX has 40hp stock so you fuck off!
Ben Hodgson is right.
Bodyguard3164 1 year ago
@Bodyguard3164 correction ktm has 51hp. most hp in class. ds seems about right.
JendrusZbojnik 1 year ago
hondas are shit
yamahagytrracing21 2 years ago
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R my not right, ktm makes a quick machine but they r not reliable
Scott07kx450 2 years ago
very reliable, the xc is bullet proof, teh sx is great as long as you maintain it
bhodgson84 2 years ago 3
my xc is DEAD. they are not bulletproof. My dads friend owns a ktm dealership so it was serviced every ten days.
imthebestofthegreat 1 year ago
@imthebestofthegreat
my xc ran 12 motos in 1 weekend, a full race season on 1 piston. and its still going strong for the kid that bought it. the sx was perfect all year too
bhodgson84 1 year ago
no im saying they break down over a period of about 2 months. It ran great for the first month
imthebestofthegreat 1 year ago
@imthebestofthegreat
a race season is 6 months here. obviously there were some maintenance issues
bhodgson84 1 year ago
How much difference is there between 505sx and 450sx. I know it's only 28cc difference but whats the HP like in the two?
My local shop is having a promotion on the 450sx, comes with damper and slip on muffler and its a little cheaper than normal
elliotmotoX 2 years ago
unreliable? i think not! look at the rest of my videos! i had a full season of practice and racing tqra pro class on it! and it is still kicking i had about 40 plus hours on a 13.5:1 cp piston in it and i just put a new one in it right before i sold it and had no parts wear out on me at all! and no motor trouble what so ever!
CaceDawn 2 years ago
exactly my sx 85 is extremely reliable, and its the best in the class.
liveitlikeitis 1 year ago
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Ktms are preety quick but there the most unreliable out of all the brands especially after a year
Scott07kx450 2 years ago
your fucked
94KellyM 2 years ago
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why the fuck does it matter they r both made by the same ppl and they r both very nice quads
trx450erdude 2 years ago
ktm and honda arnt made by the same people
iles9 2 years ago 4
they arent made by the same one is ktm other is honda
blackdwood 2 years ago
bahaha KTM is made in Austria, Honda is made in Japan... faaaaaill
elliotmotoX 2 years ago 3
actually matt and inker traded places and the KTM still pulled on the trx. and Matt is sitting 3rd almost 2nd in the TQRA open expert class right now. Also...No one is on a KTM YET!!! bc they are so new! You just wait! Have you ridden one?? No..didnt think so!
CaceDawn 2 years ago
he cant ride for shit. the guy on the trx. put someone who knows how to ride, and the trx would destroy it
bmwpowerm1 2 years ago
ur a noob
iles9 2 years ago
i dont think so
ktm is way faster than the trx
raptor700rblue 2 years ago 11
ktm quads are race ready
the honda isnt
blackdwood 2 years ago 10
Yeah right, keep dreaming, just don't fall of the bed LOL
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
maybe that ktm is faster and all but the thing is that atv is gonna live in the mechanic after a year, u better watch the AMA PRO ATV THERE IS NO EVEN ONE KTM!!!!
Mateo117RAZER 2 years ago
Honda 4 life :D
lnventedSIayer 2 years ago
lets see KTM 9,500
honda 6500 motor 1500 exhaust 400shocks 2000 a-arms 700 nerfs 250
bead locks 300 tires 200 axle350 stem150 handlebars 50 kill switch 50
equals a total of 12450!!! looks like im the one out front and with 2k in my pocket! not sure on exact prices for all the stuff cuz i dont have to buy them any more but thats in the ballpark for stuff worth having
so lets check the price again
ktm 10500 depending on where ya get it and for a honda that still cant hang for 12450
CaceDawn 2 years ago 2
@CaceDawn this is true, I work for KTM, you cant beat our free trackside serivice at GNCC's either. KTM makes more specific built quads then any of the Jap 4 companys.
stuntjake7 1 year ago
goes to show, dont waste your hard earned cash on a honda...
cat500i 2 years ago
are you fucking serious the honda won dumbass
justinlikesprototype 2 years ago
Well lets see dumbfuck, It should beat the ktm450 due to all the engine mods........
cat500i 2 years ago
no it didnt look again
blackdwood 2 years ago
For that KTMs price tag. The 450r + the mods, the 450r owner still has 2grand in his pocket
crashdaddy83 2 years ago
ktm>anything else.
crixa1 2 years ago 4
What year trx is that?
fasterthanyou22 2 years ago
Lmao last weekend at the Cooperland TQRA race he pulled 2nd out of 12 on the holeshot on his stock ktm. against all built motors the only one who beat him to the first corner was johnny hale on his 62hp Honda. So i doubt your honda has shit on his!
CaceDawn 2 years ago
@CaceDawn was johny hales honda completely black almost because my friend bought it I think.
kx85racer199 1 year ago
@CaceDawn those ktms are fucking fast i had one that i bought used then i started to modify it ended uo being a fully customized 590cc beast my new one im building is a 525cc building it to a monster 625cc dune/dirt quad
BANSH33SRULE88 8 months ago
i can tell just by watching my trx 450r would leave both of em in the dust. They looked pretty slow on take off.
joshuabond87 2 years ago
Thats what he has done to the KTM i think he is about to do a few more things to it though. but as it sits thats what he has done
CaceDawn 2 years ago
Nod even after that mods, a 450R could keep up and you see after they get into 4th, the SX goes away lolol
remove the baffle, remove the snorkel and put a jdjet kit ($75) and you'll leave that 450R even more behind...
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
All that and still has to fight to keep up.
TEFLONTHADON 2 years ago 2