JFK ground controller tackling the snow

[CirrusPilotsr20]

well id like you in Paris but i don't think i can have that hahahah LOL

[64804jonjon]

Why do you keep writing er? nobody says er. its all ohs and aahs, not ER lol

[coralreefer14]

lmfao the a380 guy is trolling the ATC.

[RealPilotFSX]

I'd like you in Paris...LOL i was thinking the same thing... you think an A380 pilot would be a bit better on the radios than that guy

[aceflyer89]

LMAO I'd like you in paris xD Fell off my chair laughing.

[mitchdman001]

Back when the BA Concorde was in service

[MaroonCamaro]

LOL.... Like you in Paris but dont think I can have that.

[jonny2k100]

Love that typical BA pilots accent at 1:31

[jamesfawr]

By Law all Pilots must use Englash.

[cheesemaster1000]

@jamesfawr By law all pilots must be able to speak English, whether they chose to or not is another matter...

A lot of the time international pilots will speak in their own language to ATC when flying over their home country. E.g. Air France pilots frequently speak French to French air traffic controllers, Lufthansa pilots speak German while flying over Germany etc.

[jamesfawr]

@cheesemaster1000 U are 100% correct. But Of the 200+/- runway incursions or ATC loss of separations, are tied to a flight crew that don’t speak English enough and clearly. I have logged about 20 trips over seas and I make it a point to practice their language so I know the, I can be safe. Look back at Aviance flight 52 they ran out of gas and crashed their com are bad at best. They told ACT they needed Priority but never declared an emergency. And when they went missed ACT told them to fly

[jamesfawr]

AV-52 roger . AV 52 fly Heading *** then AV 52 says we are out of fuel, atc says I am going to send you to the outer marker and bring you back in, is that ok with you and your fuel AV 52 replied yes that will be fine. Then it crashed out of fuel. If a pilot uses the word Emergence he gets whatever he needs. I had DFW closed for me on a day when a RT Main gear would not lock. And the list goes on and on.

[TheLeCaptaine]

@cheesemaster1000 That happens a lot with general aviation traffic and the odd bit with high altitude control but rarely on approach radar or terminal control as other aircraft have to understand what is being said. I remember going into De Gaulle a BA captain having a ding dong with a french approach controller over speaking french to an AF jumbo in the stack. He rightly wanted to be aware of the intentions all traffic in the vicinity of his aircraft

[riskydude19]

@Erenxbjk: not boston john. This is at ljfk

[bigdawg8369]

@riskydude19 I think you missed typed the ICAO code its KJFK

[AviationMaster96]

To clarify: the phrase "super" is used to designate the a380 because it requires more separation than a typical "heavy."

[Asuquints]

HAHAHA...... Nice.

[erenxbjk]

is it boston john?

[afgrocks123]

@erenxbjk haha what?? I thought this was JFK and not "boston"

[OsamabeenLaggin]

anyone else think that the british airways 177 sounded allot like capt price?

[zorak950]

At 1:53, the controller says "Alitalia," not "I'll start you." i.e. He wants to get Alitalia off the runway before Lufthansa tries to power its way out of the snow, which could (presumably, judging by the dialog) potentially cause it to roll forward past the hold line and cause an incursion.

[cheesemaster1000]

@zorak950 Yeah I guess he could be saying that ;) thanks.

[ozzieMatt16]

Haha id like you in Paris

[Scote1992]

he wasn't talking fast at all, I've had faster contollers talking to me at KISP a hell of a lot faster than that

[planelover3640]

Hahaha the end is hilarious. Silly French

[dubbodaniel]

I think they all need to have a smoke break.

[freeportkid]

fml lufthansa is alwaysssss the cause of stress

[zorak950]

All respect to JFK ATC, because you know they put up with a lot. Still, it's true that American ATC in general is not particularly friendly to ESL pilots. Lots of chatter, non-standard phraseology, and lack of annunciation. I don't think blame is productive, though. The controllers do what they can to make their workload manageable under very trying conditions, and the pilots do their best as well. It's just a shame when things get tense, because you know everyone's trying to do the right thing.

[cazzeggetor3]

why has airfrance 006 the callsign "Super" ?? what does it mean ?

[dingozr]

@cazzeggetor3 I think that stands for A380 airplane.

[cheesemaster1000]

@cazzeggetor3 Thanks for watching, Super is the international callsign for any Airbus A380. It derives from the nickname 'Super-Jumbo'

[CathayGuy]

lol

[MrFelFel]

I'd like you in paris LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[prglg]

@MrFelFel hahahahahha!! Priceless!!!

[MrFelFel]

LOL

A foor of snow

[NickPwnsUTube]

I'd like you in Paris but I cant have that. Lmao

[planeboy737]

Ahahahahahahaha

[cheesemaster1000]

@planeboy737 Yeah, I thought he was a little harsh on the Air France pilot at the end. The pilot asked a question "hold on or hold short (of taxiway Alpha)?" and the controller replied "Just hold there for now" which doesn't really answer the question

[planeboy737]

@cheesemaster1000 Yeh I think that controller needs to go for a break ;)

[JumpStartation]

@cheesemaster1000 Harsh? This is Kennedy, someone screws up and its not a matter of lost profits, its life and death.

[cheesemaster1000]

@JumpStartation I know but talking the way the controller did can only add to confusion. He was speaking too quickly to understand; even I was having trouble understanding in some places so you can only imagine what the French and German pilots were thinking. You don't hear Heathrow controllers speaking in this abrupt manner... just saying

[JumpStartation]

@cheesemaster1000 Since we only have the recording and not a tape of the ground radar, we won't really know if the pilot was causing a problem for other aircraft, if he was already at the holding point or if the controller was just annoyed.