@koberko Actually, they search algorythm search for the objects and send the information to the software, that renders only 1 atom per pixel, instead of 21 trillions and something something something atoms. But some people are too dumb to understand how it works :c
@DeathScytheBR Yup. But in general, I'm a bit skeptical about all of that... Main problem that I see is fact that you still have to store all of that data, that will algorithm "search" and display only data needed to be seen at given moment... I have seen interview with Bruce Dell, and I'm not sure that he has mentioned any solid solution to that problem... But, if they have found solution to that, it could be nice tech in couple years ;)
@koberko Yea, he did mention it on the 41 minute version. He sayd they have a pretty neat compression system going on. And anyways, storage shouldn't be a problem when you can buy a 2TB HD for 120 dollars.
@DeathScytheBR Yeah, with good compression, it shouldn't be a problem. And it's not like that technology will be out tomorrow; they still need to work on it to make it competitive to current polygon tech. Pure geometry details are not enough; they still need to work out different types of materials, lighting, effects, dynamics, motion and similar stuff... And it will take time for that. By then, storage won't be a problem.
@DeathScytheBR There are mathematical limits to the amount of compression you can apply to something. It's simply not feasible to store that much unique geometry. That's why their videos feature so many tiling and duplicate objects. Animating and manipulating geometry in real time will also prove to be unfeasible. Don't expect polygons to disappear anytime soon.
thanks for sharing this video . i realy like it as its gives me hope to finish my short movie that contains huge amount of polygons on my workstation im going to build soon as my old pc cant render anymore... you mention its not rendered in your farm so if u have i want to know how did u set them up ? (can we use different computers to set a farm render or should be the same ?) . and about the forest is it plugins or u just use max trees ? finally the grace is it like real or just a texture ?
@soufianesk Yes, you can use different computers in farm; you just have to make sure that you have same version of 3ds max and other plugins (like Vray) on each PC.
Regarding trees, they are custom 3D models (no texture faking; each leaf is 3d model), but thing I did was that I prerender GI to texture (so actually, trees ware not calculated in GI calculations), then converted models to Vray proxy, and used GroundWiz plugin for planting trees and color variation.
within 5 minutes, your system graphical performance rates up to...
1,262,876 polygons per second?
as for ram, after 4-8 gb the memory operations cease to be a difference plus your processor is only good in aiding the a small amount of the graphics operations, but big time in memory management operations so it also may be a small part of the difference. now whats your graphics card?
Use of render farms shouldn't be just restricted to large studios and 3D artists. Smaller studios have their own render farms and many freelance artists have them as well. Compositors and freelance motion-graphics artists can also make use of them. Some editing systems support the use of additional machines called render nodes to accelerate rendering, and this type of setup can be extended to architectural visualization and even digital audio workstations.for more info google out renderrocket.
@crimson177 or an xbox 360,last i checked its gpu can perform 500 million pps
putting it at 60 frames per second on games,where as ps3 has i think 270 million per second, drawing out at 30 avg frames persecond, but stilll after 27 frames per second, unless your watching a bullet fire at slow motion, you dont notice the difference. well,rarely
google: xbox 360 polygons per second
its the first search item. if this is good performance, i wonder about the tesla's ;)
I wonder how fast this will go on my I7 @5,6 Ghz. Anyway i got render farm with 4x I7 cpu :) so this could be rly nice look :)
fi5h81 1 month ago
Euclideon can do it in less than a second!
DeathScytheBR 2 months ago 4
@DeathScytheBR Nope; they can do "infinitely" more polygons in less then a second! :)
koberko 2 months ago
@koberko Actually, they search algorythm search for the objects and send the information to the software, that renders only 1 atom per pixel, instead of 21 trillions and something something something atoms. But some people are too dumb to understand how it works :c
DeathScytheBR 2 months ago
@DeathScytheBR Yup. But in general, I'm a bit skeptical about all of that... Main problem that I see is fact that you still have to store all of that data, that will algorithm "search" and display only data needed to be seen at given moment... I have seen interview with Bruce Dell, and I'm not sure that he has mentioned any solid solution to that problem... But, if they have found solution to that, it could be nice tech in couple years ;)
koberko 2 months ago
@koberko Yea, he did mention it on the 41 minute version. He sayd they have a pretty neat compression system going on. And anyways, storage shouldn't be a problem when you can buy a 2TB HD for 120 dollars.
DeathScytheBR 2 months ago
@DeathScytheBR Yeah, with good compression, it shouldn't be a problem. And it's not like that technology will be out tomorrow; they still need to work on it to make it competitive to current polygon tech. Pure geometry details are not enough; they still need to work out different types of materials, lighting, effects, dynamics, motion and similar stuff... And it will take time for that. By then, storage won't be a problem.
koberko 2 months ago
@DeathScytheBR There are mathematical limits to the amount of compression you can apply to something. It's simply not feasible to store that much unique geometry. That's why their videos feature so many tiling and duplicate objects. Animating and manipulating geometry in real time will also prove to be unfeasible. Don't expect polygons to disappear anytime soon.
reificate 3 days ago
C'moon! give nasa its computer back!
nomnomlad 3 months ago
i can render 100000 billion polygons, in 15 seconds.. if they are very far away from the camera
raducristiandimitrie 3 months ago
thanks for sharing this video . i realy like it as its gives me hope to finish my short movie that contains huge amount of polygons on my workstation im going to build soon as my old pc cant render anymore... you mention its not rendered in your farm so if u have i want to know how did u set them up ? (can we use different computers to set a farm render or should be the same ?) . and about the forest is it plugins or u just use max trees ? finally the grace is it like real or just a texture ?
soufianesk 4 months ago
@soufianesk Yes, you can use different computers in farm; you just have to make sure that you have same version of 3ds max and other plugins (like Vray) on each PC.
Regarding trees, they are custom 3D models (no texture faking; each leaf is 3d model), but thing I did was that I prerender GI to texture (so actually, trees ware not calculated in GI calculations), then converted models to Vray proxy, and used GroundWiz plugin for planting trees and color variation.
koberko 4 months ago
i have i7 2600 / 8gb ddr3 1600 / sabertooth mobo / 2 N560 GTX ti-hawks in SLI
they do have CUDA but is this all on CPU / memory ?
I had an OPENGL error today.. almost finished rendering 2 mill polygones ( 2 vray lights ) in Vray
stepxunit 4 months ago
can i render the same using my Nvidia GTX560Ti SLi? and how much improvement would that be over a processor like yours?
karancyberdemon2385 5 months ago
@karancyberdemon2385 Currently, Vray (render used for rendering) doesn't support GPU rendering, so only CPU power matters.
koberko 5 months ago
@koberko there is a plugin called "VrayRT" which supports GPU rendering, can u do the same test using your graphic card with that plugin?
karancyberdemon2385 5 months ago
RIP koberko's PC
gott1rott 1 year ago
within 5 minutes, your system graphical performance rates up to...
1,262,876 polygons per second?
as for ram, after 4-8 gb the memory operations cease to be a difference plus your processor is only good in aiding the a small amount of the graphics operations, but big time in memory management operations so it also may be a small part of the difference. now whats your graphics card?
GhostXoP 1 year ago
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Use of render farms shouldn't be just restricted to large studios and 3D artists. Smaller studios have their own render farms and many freelance artists have them as well. Compositors and freelance motion-graphics artists can also make use of them. Some editing systems support the use of additional machines called render nodes to accelerate rendering, and this type of setup can be extended to architectural visualization and even digital audio workstations.for more info google out renderrocket.
justinford10jf 1 year ago 5
if you had the best graphics card out, which i think the best, could draw up to 500 million+ polygons per second, u would be set
GhostXoP 1 year ago
@GhostXoP that would be a nvidia tesla very very expensive
crimson177 1 year ago
@crimson177 or an xbox 360,last i checked its gpu can perform 500 million pps
putting it at 60 frames per second on games,where as ps3 has i think 270 million per second, drawing out at 30 avg frames persecond, but stilll after 27 frames per second, unless your watching a bullet fire at slow motion, you dont notice the difference. well,rarely
google: xbox 360 polygons per second
its the first search item. if this is good performance, i wonder about the tesla's ;)
GhostXoP 1 year ago
@GhostXoP consoles are about as powerfull as a 80w bulb
crimson177 1 year ago 3
@GhostXoP are you really comparing raytracing with rastering render?
please, go away.
GraveUypo 11 months ago
@GraveUypo How about no, Go fuck yourself :)
GhostXoP 11 months ago
what workstation you render it? how much ram?
64pipeline 1 year ago
@64pipeline
this was rendered on Intel i7 920 with 12 GB Ram. But application it self was using just some 2GB.
koberko 1 year ago
wow.... that's a lot of poly's lol, but it looks really good, good job on this
TheHelpYouNeed 1 year ago
damn that vray proxy....
excellent vid!
flame146 1 year ago