Richard Dawkins at The Conservative Party Conference - Pt. 1

[BlongBlarble]

Sorry Richard...we Americans simply don't care about what you and your very boring country think... :-( And whenever there is another World War, don't worry! The Christian nation will save your pussy ass country again! :-)

[salam2323able]

It is the truth my dear...

[gulbirk]

is dawkins a conversative, why?

[9t5Gina2k7]

Yeah, i'm still a Socialist...

[Niflheim13]

Just so people know, Dawkins has never voted Tory. He used to vote for Labour and now the Liberal Democrats.

[SpiritFlux]

Always knew the Tories were pretty Godless. Here's the proof!!

[unfad1ng]

liberal democrats is the best party in brittain no doubt

[PokerJoey888]

4:08 WINWINWINWINWINWINWINWINWINWIN­WINWIN!!!!!

[PokerJoey888]

That's an oxymoron if i ever heard one, conservative humanist.

What next? A financially conservative economist?

[ms9809]

There are conservative atheists out there!!! It's a difficult existence...trust me!

[PurushaDesa]

@ConservativeHumanist, exactly which traditions are you hoping to 'conserve'? I mean, the whole point of identifying oneself as a progressive, is that you don't have an inherent respect for traditions, but recognise most of them don't work and society needs to 'progress' beyond them. If you don't support the undeniable tradition of religion in the Tory Party, which part do you support? Slashing benefits? Promoting an unelected monarchy? Retaining a ridiculously unrepresentative voting system?

[prophetchannel]

@PurushaDesa You can be conservative in that you want to conserve 19th century Anglo-Saxon free market liberalism. This is the kind of conservative you can have a sensible discussion with. But they are rare, and you can usually find them in economics and political science departments at universities. Yes, most of them want to slash benefits, but some of them are republicans and agree with voting reform. Their favorite literature is John Stuart Mill, Von Hayek, George Eliot and Schumpeter.

[Soberkin]

I'm liking this...never voted Tory but am not ruling it out now as I am a devout atheist and the left pander to religion in a nauseating way these days

[PrimaIScream]

@Soberkin Dawkins is a liberal democrat and always has been. I'd be cautious of trusting the Tories when their core non-publicised base tends be strongly religious.

[markgg1]

Irony = conservative saying policy making should be based on rationality and evidence based policy. Right wing policies always fail. More police doesn't equal less crime, lower taxes increases inequalities. Simple correleation between more functional societie, and more 'left' policies. Dont believe me, than look across Europe and rthe USA and compare stats of health, GDP per capita, equality, crime poverty etc.. LOL at RD's first statement

[gdfdfdf1]

Lol Conservative Humanist :DDDD konzervative= fasiszt

atehist= radikal left:D

[aramian21]

I previously thought tories are mostly racist so can't be humanist, right?!

[dlsbooty]

Conservatives in the UK are like Democrats in the US. Conservatives in the US are basically like the Taliban.

[FaganRoberts]

@dlsbooty Really? Have evidence to back up your uneducated, childlike claims?

[dlsbooty]

@FaganRoberts Oh relax, it was just sh*t talkin, but still makes a point. The articles I've read from conservatives in the UK are nothing like what you get from the conservative idiots in the US. Sorry if that's you. You won't find a conservative humanist conference in this country, it is infested with christianity. You deny this?

[FaganRoberts]

@dlsbooty Crap talking is very representational of your talking points, agreed? No need for sorry feelings on your part, as they are unwarranted and w/out merit. The Libertarian Party might be a starting platform, however it seems. Far from the delusional assertions of an imaginary, nonsensical US conservative/IslamicTaliban overlap apparently coming from the cultural left. This may portray a lack of discernable thinking, even on such a non-issue.

[dlsbooty]

@FaganRoberts Ok, you are free to take exception to my broad prejudice of conservatives, but this is the perception they work to promote. Sure, Libertatians are kind of conservative, but way too thoughtful about reality to be included in the "conservative" group I was attempting to slander.

[FaganRoberts]

@dlsbooty Sure, I'll buy that for a dollar. But bear in mind, I'm sure many conservative politicians on Capital Hill laugh at Christian fanatic lobbyists after their office door is closed behind them. The difference here is that many Chrisitians vote the bible line and their reps go in lockstep for election. Whereas in the UK their lobbies aren't as strong whilst their voting patterns are far less defined and predictable than in the USA.

[darkmiles22]

"I wish you could export it to the United States."

"HEAR HEAR!"

I just clapped out loud and scared my dog o.0

[FaithlessLiberty]

Good to know that Dawkins is not a leftie ^^

[stratocaster539]

he is there in the context of humanism.

[FaganRoberts]

@FaithlessLiberty Thank goodness for that. Many liberals exchange faith in god for faith in BIG government.

[89murph]

Well Richard Dawkins was in the Lib Dem conference a few months back and he said he has always voted for the Liberal Democrats.

[vorgon2000]

really, a personal connection with God. For an Atheist its the equilivent of having a personal relationship with Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. In an Atheist's eyes at the worst your suffering from mental illness or at the least brainwashing. Small children believe in Santa Claus (they even see him) yet we know it to be false, its the same with god, it just carries on and on and on.

[darthbandon1]

Islam is the death of the right and the left. Islam is the death of modern society.

[salam2323able]

@darthbandon1 You are 100% wrong. How dare you judge?

[Warmijwilf]

@salam2323able Because Islam is one of the most volatile religions in existence?

[salam2323able]

@Warmijwilf You people don't know what Islam really is. Islam is peace, it is love. Please, whatever the media is saying it is a lie.

[Warmijwilf]

@salam2323able No, some Muslims are peaceful, and those ones I don't have a problem with. I'm sure you're a peaceful Muslim too. But the extremists follow it to the letter. For example...

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

[salam2323able]

@Warmijwilf Look, I'm sorry I don't know how to go through this. I'm just a 14 year-old girl who loved to defend her religion. I'm just sick of people assuming that we are terrorists. It's just a misunderstanding. And of course EVERY religion is for Allah. :)

[Warmijwilf]

@salam2323able I don't like it when people assume all Muslims are terrorists either, don't worry. :)

I just don't see Islam as a completely peaceful religion. Maybe that's how it's intended, but a lot of things in the Qu'ran (and the Bible too to be fair) are pretty... well, not peaceful.

[saundersDave11]

@salam2323able I'm not a Muslim. What will happen to me after I die?

[salam2323able]

@saundersDave11 But you do believe that there's something called " The Day of Judgment" ? Right?

[saundersDave11]

@salam2323able No, I see no evidence for it at all. I used to believe it, but no longer. When I die, I will die. Not a conclusion I particularly favour, but the most probable one.

[salam2323able]

@saundersDave11 You said that you believed in it right? Then, what is the day of judgment? What do you think it's for?

[saundersDave11]

@salam2323able I believed in it when I was a child, because that's what I'd been taught at school. As I got older, I realised that there's nothing to suggest this is true, because there's never been evidence of God anywhere, ever. There's no heaven or paradise after we die. Just like the other animals on this planet, and like our ancestors hundreds of thousands of years ago (ie Cro-Magnon Man, Neanderthals, Homo Erectus), we go back to the same state as we did before we were born: not existing.

[salam2323able]

@saundersDave11 I feel sorry for you. Look around you, this world is perfect look at every single detail in it. isn't that enough for you? Heaven and Hell do exist. You are saying that whatever we do in this life, good or bad, it doesn't matter because we are all just going to die. No, a good person who has done good deeds in his or her life gets rewarded by heaven. And the same goes for a bad person that has more sins than good deeds, that person goes to hell. How could you possibly deny?

[saundersDave11]

@salam2323able This planet has not been designed for us. 70% of it is undrinkable salt water. Of the remaining land, most of it is either too hot, too cold, too dry, or too high. About 1% of the earth's surface is habitable without needing to wear clothes or construct roofs over our heads. We have a turbulent and violent weather system that attacks people randomly. We are under constant attacks from diseases and 25,000 children die from malnutrition from unpredictable weather systems, each day.

[Warmijwilf]

@salam2323able Sorry but now you're mixing ideals with reality. Yes, it's ideal that a good person gets rewarded when he dies and a bad person gets punished. But just because it's a nice thought, doesn't mean it's the actual truth.

[AnonInEng]

I can stomach being an atheist...but a Conservative! I'm relieved to hear that Dawkins has never voted Tory. Phew!!

[SmokzTrueno]

I am disappointed. Why does it seem that so many atheists are willing to reject god yet accept an omnipotent state that will protect your job yet raise your taxes.

Why can't someone be an atheist and a capitalist? Why does that sound so ridiculous to most?

[Asgath]

Those two things aren't related. The belief in a deity is a question of believing something that has no scientific fact or evidence. On the other hand the acts of a state are elements of real life that we see every day that is totally unrelated

[Noahthebeast09]

I am a capitalistic atheist.

[Scotish223332]

@Noahthebeast09 I'm a capitalist christian :3

Since your truthful, I can guide you to a great book called Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith :3

[AbeChang2]

I don't know what label I should place on myself. I want to maximize freedom in individuals, and I find that unregulated capitalism establishes monopolies and trusts which trump popular sovereignty. I like compromises between capitalism and socialism. It seems ludicrous that one could exists in a positiive manner without the other to balance it.

[FaganRoberts]

@AbeChang2 The natural free market is a GIGANTIC balancing act, in and of itself. Monopolies and trusts exist when BIG business, with the help of BIG government, get together and violate free market principles by preventing natural competition through regulation, taxation and licensing, etc..

[SeeProfileForDetails]

@SmokzTrueno no kiddin

[FaganRoberts]

@SmokzTrueno I'm about as hard atheist as one can get and yet I firmly understand and respect the inherent freedoms attained and maintained by a natural free market system and it's economic principles.

[konothecook]

i believe dawkins is a libertarian conservationist. I looked it up if you must know, and apparently conservatism is a very broad term. :P

[FaganRoberts]

@AnonInEng Don't worry. Whereas imagined gods have failed you, your government will provide for your sustainance. You're half way there, my friend.

[sonsofabit]

(4:07) "I should first confess that I have never actually voted Tory in my life". LOL!

[badseed136]

I am a social democrat and and I atheist but I hate how all the fucking left wing parties across Europe associate themselves with muslims. Why??? Muslims are social conservatives. We lefties we´ll be the most affected by bullshit like sharia law and so on. Fucking idiots, muslims are the best thing that ever happened to right wing parties.

[rogerswift1983]

I am myself a 'very strong atheist' whilst also politically a moderate conservative so loved this and I have officially joined the party.

[ronald2394]

Could I get a recording of this meeting on CD as it will help me to sleep at night because it bores the crap out of me. (Actually any Tory tripe will do.) Works very well on babies too.

[boldertits]

I would rather watch brown drain the country dry than cameron fuck the poorest people over.

[Leftygit]

wow... likeable Conservatives... i knew there must be some...

From someone who never intends to vote Tory, good on you all the same.

[Bambislaught3r]

I agree.

[ConservativeHumanist]

Thanks :)

[ryan84160]

@ConservativeHumanist Conservative humanist? Are you just fiscally conservative or are you socially conservative ? 

[FaganRoberts]

@Leftygit There are plenty of straight thinking conservatives who are atheist, Lefty. Atheism is not just the domain of doctrinaire Marxists and disgusting government worshipping Fabian socialists. Sorry to bust your silly stereotypes.

[Bennyliz]

Dawkins is a great man :)

[katja11c]

If the pope really believed in the bible and the teachings of Jesus, he wouldn't be the pope in the first place. He'd have sold all of his belongings and would live in some developing nation trying to feed the poor...

[maxb8097]

Its a popular mis conception of the bible, that rule indicates that you cannot put any material belongings before god, so if you do, sell it, and get it out of your life, thats my take on it. PLEASE ATHIESTS, DONT HATE ME :S

[ronald2394]

maxb8097.....I am an Athiest and I support you all the way. If Tories say they are Christians then give me Athiests any time.

[nrjelley]

what are you tlking abut? you cant get any more atheistic than Richard Dawkins, he absolutely hates religion, he believes all followers of religion are stupid!

[cavasnel]

You obviously haven't read or watched a lot of what he's saying, have you? If you have, you intentionally created a malicious strawman argument, reflecting poorly on people of faith, since that's stable armunition for creationists.

[nrjelley]

It's the truth, he doesn't like religion, however that doesn't reflect on my personal opinion, I believe it's up to the individual to believe in religion or not. I myself am agnostic in the sense that I believe that there was a man called Jesus who helped and healed people, however whether there is a God or not I find hard to believe!

[ronald2394]

Katja11c.....The pope travels around in a bullet proof car. Now thats what you call faith in operation. Religion is a joke.....on us.

[ltflermy]

Dawkins rules. He reminds me sometimes of C3P0 though lol

[Bennyliz]

OMG I never noticed the similarity O.o wow that's soo cool!!!! Someone needs to make a video :D

[ltflermy]

Frankly I'm amazed no one has yet. It'd be a 5 star easily if done half-right. :)

[EvilSylv]

I've never thought about that, but his voice is spot-on! :)

[xlioilx]

the conservative party for conservative conservatives to conserve the conservation of the conservative conservatives and further to conserve the conservation of conservatives world wide

[MockenValborg]

That was priceless.

[OnkelCannabia]

I'm curious: What exactly makes the conservativehumanists conservative? I can't see anything positive about conservatism at it is currently understood in our society. But maybe you have a different understanding of that word than the public. Kinda like Ron Paul, who called himself conservative, BECAUSE he was libertarian.

[revjimbob]

I was thinking of the chances of the Republican Party in America having Dawkins as a guest before Dawkins brought it up himself.

[NefeshChaim]

What is the basic platform of the british conservative movement, i don't really know.

[david7k]

all 8 members were there!!

[hustedcarl]

There were much more than 8 people there, I can assure you.

[ConservativeHumanist]

Yep, there were 150 people there because we could only fit 150 in the room. Unfortunatly, there were many people who couldn't get in so we're going to have a much bigger room next year :)

[Bravo2zero0]

Richard dawkins is part of a very close knit left wing group...members include tony ben and micheal moore. people like that

[Scrapheap71]

Did you get bored with fucking your sister??

Grab another Bud Light Jim-Bob, I'm sure your mom needs some luvin'!!!

[Bravo2zero0]

umm pardon?

[ThePissedOffAtheist]

Have you seen the video in which that snotty little twerp Benn speaks to Dawkins like he's something he wiped off his shoe? Do your research before making such egregious claims sir.

[TheRealBladeRunner]

I haven't watched it yet: I thought Richard Dawkins was a Lib Dem???

[TheRealBladeRunner]

"...I've never actually voted Tory in my life". -- Richard Dawkins.

Should have watched the video first.

[amet1980]

whats Richard dawkins actual political believes?

i presume is some kind of left of center, but does anyone know precisely?

[tieInterceptor]

a pluralist secular society,

well said.

[itsabomberscope]

politics and humanism dont seem to fit together. On the other hand maybe it will serve as a kind of balance. Given Cameron's ambiguous nature on Europe, maybe the humanists can protect our individual rights & freedoms by giving us a true referendum on Europe.

Good luck with your organisation.

[Juggertrout]

Good to see a Conservative Humanist association finally! I myself am a Conservative humanist, and so are all the Conservatives I know. Too long have the Tories been unfairly castigated by association with the religious right.

[robertjede]

I certainly hope your group succeeds within the conservative party. However I fear you have an uphill battle with many traditionalist party members.

[shaung64YT]

The Tories are still the most religious of the main parties, I checked who voted for what on the recent embryo legislation and about 40% of the shadow cabinet voted against, while only a few labour ministers voted against.

[ConservativeHumanist]

You're absolutely right Shaung64YT, which is why our association is such a leap forward for the party. We are rapidly gaining support within as more and more grassroots members 'Come-out'. Hopefully, this will send the message to the people at the top that more and more people in our country are non-religious and are in favour of a more secular government.

[wordscontrolminds]

Please! What would Margaret say to all this???? The terms HUMAN and THATCHER just DONT go together!! Along with GAY, MINORITY, etc etc. Why cant you just be humanist and drop the tory bullshit, one negates the other in most peoples books??? As dawkins said, he NEVER voted tory!

[Matt7895]

Wordscontrolminds, unfortunately you don't understand the modern Conservative Party. There are gay and atheist members of the Shadow Cabinet. I don't know why people like yourself continue to invoke Thatcher's name, either. Get over it.

Great videos Conservative Humanists, I wish you the best of luck.

[Bravo2zero0]

Thats what was said about the Thatcher conservative party. They all say they are different but right-wing basically means dog eat dog.

[TithonusSyndrome]

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."

-John Kenneth Galbraith

[thedavewalkershow]

Hi bravo

being conservitive means thinking for your self,taking responsability for your own actions in stead of blaming every one els,enterprise,not being satisfeid with the crumbs off some one els table,leading rather than being lead,puting our country and its people first,freedom of speech,law and order,less goverment interference,higher standards,longer prison sentances,the search for a superior moral justyification to improve our lives.

regards dave.

[Bravo2zero0]

Hi Dave

I assume that you think that your little speech there makes the conservitive mind set look good? Hmmm. Longer prison sentances. Hmmm Maybe you need to read up abit on your history and what conservitive governments have done to countries around the world. I believe that an athiest government would be best and that an athiest government might be left-wing. As most of them would probley want the best for people.

[thedavewalkershow]

Hi bravo

A 29year old local man was shot dead this week,his father wounded,Under a labour goverment his murderers can already look forward to at least 50percent off there sentances, even befor they are court.I love history strange how leftwing, socialists,and labour,always refer to the past when challenged about the present or our future.Check out the last 11years our country has been toally trashed. I want the very best for our country and its people thats why i vote conservitive.

cheers.

[Bravo2zero0]

Hi Dave

Firstly Dave im not saying that the labour government is perfect. However it is the lesser of 2 evils. Also if you are to look into the past you would see that the Labour government did more for this country in its first time in office that the Conservitives ever did. I understand that when people see on the news that another boy has been shot that they get angry and think "what a waste" but longer jail sentences won't bring that boy back.

[thedavewalkershow]

Hi bravo

I have studied labour for over 40years,when ever they are in power they trash our country and they all ways leave us bankrupt.I never make any judgement listening to the news or through anger,just good old fashioned commonsence.50 years in jail would keep there next victims safe and send out a strong message to other potential murderers.Life in our country gets cheaper by the day under labour.

regards dave.

[Bravo2zero0]

Hi Dave

I dont doubt that you may have studied the labour government for longer then me and perhaps know alot more then i do and you probley do what want is best for this country. But what you think is best and what i or someone else think is best will differ. You can not doubt that the Labour government did great things for this country back in the day when labour was labour. However 50 years in prison will not bring that victim back to life...

[thedavewalkershow]

Hi bravo

You are right it is to late for this victim,its the other 60 million victims in our country i would like to try and save from the same fate.I can never remember a time when i have been impressed with a labour goverment how ever i can remember every time they leave office they leave our country almost bankrupt.

regards dave.

[Bravo2zero0]

Hi Dave

The National Health Service does not impress you? Secondly locking people up will acutally make them more likely to kill a fellow inmate/be killed by a fellow inmate/reoffend once let out. Norway's prison system is probley the best in the world and they have the lowest sentences in Europe.

[thedavewalkershow]

At least they will be killing each other,after 50 years in prison they will be to old to harm us.I have spent alot of time in norway,you carnt compair 4million norweigens to the savages we have to deal with, however history tells me along ago they were more famous for murderering,rapeing,pillaging our shores similer things to which this goverment feels the need to reward our criminals with 50percent off there sentances even befor there court along with other tax free bonuses.

[Bravo2zero0]

Umm yes i can. Norway is an example of a good left wing government and what it can do for the country. Oh dear Dave just oh dear. I hope your not a ranking memeber of the conservative party because i dread to think what would happen if you got into power. I mean seriously just read that bit about "murderering,rapeing and pillaging"

[thedavewalkershow]

Hi bravo

Lets ask norway if they could take a few thousand of our worst offenders and reabilitate them i think i no what there anser would be.I have read the rest of your snide remarks runing out of ansers are we.

regards dave.

[thedavewalkershow]

Hi bravo

I have lost 2 good friends over the years,both murderd there familys are serving life sentances forever.There murderers are already free to enjoy the rest of there lives along with all the other tax free perks compliments of this goverment,Did you know murderers get more help than any other british citizen.

regards dave.

[Bravo2zero0]

Hi Dave

You shouldn't let personal feelings get in the way of your politics. Those people who killed have to live with that on their conscience for the rest of their lives. Basically the government needs to tackle the root of the problem. Why do people feel the need to kill other people? Whats the cause of it? These are the answers we need to find for society and the victim's family. With understanding comes acceptance. Locking them up won't help anyone. (long term)

[thedavewalkershow]

Bravo personel feelings and politics do go together,most people who kill have no conscience, like most criminals they will pretend to have a conscience it helps them get a lighter sentance.We have now perfected a system in our country where we can disolve our selves of any blame for what we do,its all ways some one elses fault.We have been killing each other since time began.NOW THATS LONG TERM.We can still look for the ansers while they serve long jail sentances.

cheers.

[jazzx251]

This is a giant leap forward for the Tory party and I can see why Richard was eager to encourage it.