Buying f16 when haveing no money... european union will borrow us 100billion anyway.. Son of a bitches... Coused crisis coz u lot did things like that.. will give us money anyways.. Bustards no honour. Feel ashamed dickheads skums
@SLAzgredzik1995 hahaha nonono that's where your wrong cuz the union have seen what people your are. First you have to pay your debt then maaaaby you will borrow more money. I don't work all day to pay taxes to help countries that don't pay back HELL NO!! So your should feel ashamed for having a corrupted system and idiot to leader you dumbass. hahaha will borrow your 100billion!!! Sure hope that never happen again you filthy rats...
@thesoftish first i am NOT GREEK and have nothing to do with them! however i agree with u, Greek crisis is mostly caused by retarded politicians that lied, didn’t save money and got their country in a massive depth, but Greece got into that trouble also coz of many other reasons like: it was leaving over its limits, people didn't pay taxes, i heard on news that Greek people get 800 euro from government as premium for washing hands at work and for eating food from canteen, i mean WTFF
@SLAzgredzik1995 ahaa my bad friend I thought you was a greek defending that fucked up system them have. But yeah your right them brought this shit on them self now they should PAY...
@thesoftish i think u didn't get my message... EU already payed Greece like 150 billion at the start of the Greek crisis ,, i meant that they buy expensive planes such as F-16 but on the other hand they don’t have money and need to borrow from us, thats what pisses me of the most,, and we cant do shit about it coz they are in euro zone and if they go down then all euro goes down so we have to pay them for their mistakes and them leaving like kings when they aint got money. fukin fagots!!!
@SLAzgredzik1995 These people don't deserve to be in the EU to start with. These people are thiefs liers and a corrupted system. These sons of bitches think that doing riots and shit against the goverment will help them spread some kind of revelotion? If you have a corrupted country that means the freakin elections, ministers, presidents, cops EVERYTHING is corrupted. EU should come with a diffrent aproach cuz I'd rather help the more needing in afrika and war countys instead!
@thesoftish yh man,, absolutely agreeddd i gt enough of those cocks stealing our money lol,,oh well hopefully the sort this shit out somehow.. good that other countries in eu like Spain, portugal etc didn't get same shit as greece coz then eu would be fucked up and it would break probably.. greece only 10 million people country and coused so much problems imaginne if spain with 40 million would get same troubles...
@SLAzgredzik1995 We are buying planes and tanks from europe.... to protect GREEK territory from Turks. If turks attack Greece us a european citizen will you join Greek army to protect our borders...NO!!
Because you want only the economic union and not a real-friendship union. Do you know how many Afghan, pakistan, Indian, Albanian enter our borders every day and EU don't let us to send it to your country...
@Freelandrew thts not the point and buying tanks and planes didn't put u into economic crisis,,,tell me if u leave in greece if all the stuff i said before is true.. coz thts what put ulot in this shit situation and its pissing everyone off in rest of europe coz we have to pay for yre mistakes.. youlot leaved like kings didn't care about anything and other countries who dont have much money and saved it had to all pay for youlot who lived over the standards and wasted the money on anything.
@Freelandrew so u cant really say hehe friendship union can u... cmon u call friendship everyone every poor countries paying millions and billions for one country who got into crisis.. and about imigrants,, well if u really think they caused the crisis then ure stupid,, its all yre politicians faul who shouldnt let them in, in the first place and they also should make better policies involving illegal imigrants.
@Freelandrew look at romanians,polish,lativans,lithuanians ..the eastern europen scum trying to make living in ireland and uk...what about that,
romanians beggin on the streets of ireland.....
Ash cloud crisis exposes 'the true nature of polish who couldnt fly to ireland to claim social money..
The Department's own official figures show that during the week of April 18, people were expected to sign on to the live register, but 3,515 people failed to show.
wasnt greece humiliated countles times in history, in a big way, like nationwide humiliation? isn't greece selling it's land to pay off debts? this is garbage to bring at least some good thoughts to depression.
@behellit every country has been humiliated countless times in history...and all these war shit dont do any good...i'm greek but first i am a human...fuck economics and politics...i have no enemies...only those that want harm humans(dont care if they are greek turkish americans russians or chinese) in any way ...either economically or military...sorry for my bad english
Komigime giden turk mongollari bunlari neden kendi tv lerinde hic gostermiyo..Eh tabi mongol turkler ancak kendilerini overler :)..Bir turk dunyaya bedeldir falan..Hani nerde mongol turk'u F-16 yi bile kullanamiyo..Yunanli lock i koydu ibneye :)
ok guys if you want to see turkish f16 locked on greek mirage and f 16's ther r lots of videos about them, but how many greeks have? just 2, everyday there is a dogfight btw turks and greeks, but they could not even defend cyprus while turkey was invading it, they are all talk not much
@polor89 usa put emborgo on turkey 7 years, besides when turkey wanted to intervene in 1964 they stopped Turkey, to be more accurate Turkey did not have landing ships at that time They wanted from US but refused when things went worst in 1974 turkey modified some civilian ships and turned them into landing ships
ΝΑ ΣΩΠΑΣΟΥΝ ΟΛΟΙ ΟΙ ΑΟΥ-ΔΕΣ ΜΕΣΑ ΑΠΟ ΤΙΣ ΟΘΩΝΙΤΣΕΣ ΠΑΡΑΚΑΛΩ!! ΔΕΝ ΞΕΡΩ ΔΕΝ ΜΙΛΑΩ ΜΕ ΜΑΘΑΝ ΟΙ ΓΟΝΕΙΣ ΜΟΥ ΝΑ ΛΕΩ ΑΠΟ ΜΙΚΡΟΣ . ΚΑΙ ΟΣΟ ΓΙΑ ΚΑΤΙ ΠΑΛΙΚΑΡΑΚΙΑ ΑΓΓΛΟΦΩΝΑ ΠΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΜΑΣ ΧΩΝΕΥΟΥΝ ΣΑΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ . ΙΔΟΥ Η ΑΠΑΝΤΗΣΗ ΄, Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΗΤΑΝ ,ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΑΝΩΤΕΡΗ ΣΑΝ ΛΑΟΣ .
I gotta say it more clearly yet yes i couldnt think that a douche pops out trying to be a smart-ass. the point is that its old you fucktard. when you are recording a "vintage porn" the quality also is not main concern.
@celestialhk PKK are freedom fighters in their own land while you in multiple occations proved to be genocidal butchers. Cyprus was the last example of this. We never tried to "expand" anything (you even have claims on Gavdos for crying out loud) neither we are untra-nationalistic and militaristic like you are. Minorities in Greece never had a reason to hate us since we never opressed them or tried to drive anyone out of our NATIVE lands so we have no terrorism here.
@DINDRAGON That's false you killed hundreds of thousands of women and children in Chameria it was the Chameria genocide... Greeks are worse than turks & even though America is providing your bread you are also anti American. Hope the us doesn't bail out ur lazy sorry ass
@redfirekla That was more like localized vendettas between Greek Albanians(Arvanites) and muslim Albanians that escalated to the point of military intervention. The irony of your claims is that local Albanians were never again touched by Greeks while the Albanian state has systemetically persecuted Greeks in Albania and had their properties confiscated and the villagers bullied out of their birthplace by the Albanian state even to that day.
@muratdemirable It doesn't matter about money, its all about skill. Israel destroyed an entire country in two weeks. Greece are known for being angry and belligerent (just look at the news), what keeps them from destroying your beloved Turkey?
@muratdemirable turkar 78000000 2000000 kurder 30000000 turkar i anatolia ent central turkiet livink i conteiner end ceiv prodouktion fasolia salater patates etc etc you klinink plays in belkium germani france holland or scandinavia ritce malaka
@afroav8er say what? the translation is "5 o'clock and i'm in trouble" (other guy) "i see you too" (1st guy): "you know, on FOX 3, Fuck him" (2nd guy): "I'll fuck that bastard up"
I've noticed in most Western training videos, the pilots think mostly two-dimensionally. The bogey here tried to get out of trouble with flat scissors and failed, even though he had plenty of angle off the pursuer's nose, and the pursuer was at a high angle off tail, he kept crossing back in front of it. He should have climbed and barreled to start a rolling scissors and stay well off the attacker's nose.
Weaving just flies in front of the attacker's weapons over and over. Stupid.
@laubase yeah, I do. Never mind the terminology, the maneuvers are what matter. When you're done licking your hand, try to explain why you think defensive rolling scissors wouldn't work. If you even know how they work.
@kozmon0t <200 kts near floor. Only choices are to stack or continue flat scissors. Stacking = neutral unless one jet is thrust limited, in which case, he loses flat out. With the flat scissors, you at least have a chance in making the offender overshoot, albeit this dude is not doing it right. Anyway, it's a training mission. Mistakes the tact lead makes are part and parcel for the DLO.
@laubase Really the worst mistake was flying right into the snap gunshot. At :48, it's flying leisurely in the attacker's guns plane and would have been hit at :49. The attacker was still closing, a snap roll right followed by a left barrel roll could get around the gunshot; or, if too slow, snap roll left, fly under then barrel right. RS may not be allowed in training at that altitude, but in a real fight it's better than flying into a gunshot. The futile flat weaving was later at > 300.
@kozmon0t0:48 was not a snap. That's considered tracking. But why the defender did not jink out of plane when seeing the nose track for him is beyond me. From what I can see, his only choices were to tuck under or NCD - none of which he did. This makes me think this was a offensive BFM set for the offender so he can practice his gun mech or there were some serious bandit cuffs.
You talk about real fights - may I ask what jet you fly and perhaps for which AF?
@laubased nope, just countless hours of 1-on-1 in sims. But you seem to agree it's better to maneuver out of plane than fly into a gunshot, in the real world.
@shimarlie1 What is your problem with our country sir? Do you really know what is going wrong with our economy ? You sound like you do. Are you an economic expert? Please educate us .
Whats to educate? Your country lied it's ass off about it's financial position to join the EU. Then you went on the same credit binge and cried poor when the bill came in. No tax, No revenue base from which to pay your debts. Hence the austerity.
Now EU has to bail you out because of the lies. If you weren't in the EU, I wouldn't give a fuck, you'd just become a banana republic and I'd laugh from the sidelines. But your problem is now OUR problem.
@shimarlie1 So we lied! Ok. Let 's say that this a fact. What happened with Portugal and Ireland? What is happening now with Italy and Spain? Did they lie also ? Did it ever occure to you that the whole European experiment was built on unstable foundations?
@shimarlie1 Did you know that the bail out money that Europe is giving Greece are going straight to the banks both foreign and domestic that hold greek bonds? Did you know that the primary debt of Greece has been payed 7 times till now by the honest greek taxpayers.
@shimarlie1 That is what they tell you.Idiot.And you believe them.All of the EU countries have to understand that Greece's financial problems are planed.They attack EU via Greece and other not rich countries.Yes the leaders of Greece are selfish and did many stupid things,but you have to understand that THE BIG FORCES contributed to this,and now they taking our national treasures.U think that Greece people like the poor??Watch some videos of what happening in Greece,and take some more education.
LOL he had the guns on him the whole time, the whirring sound is the heat of the aircraft's engine being tracked by the heat seeking missles but he had the gun's reticle on him anyway and if it was real he would have ripped the jet apart with the 20mm gun he a good stable shot on him for 3 seconds and that's enough.
Maybe someone with a military flying background can explain what all those shapes on the HUD mean? There was a a circle (with a smaller circle inside), a square, a diamond, and a line that looked like a rope dangling from the top. WTH is all that?
@smithraymond09029 Hello the circle you see points that the rival aircraft is too close for missile fire so the pilot switches gun mode (FOX 4) the rope like line you see indicates the trajectory of the shells if he opens fire.The box shape means that the infrared heads of his missiles are picking a heat signature from that direction therefore the grouling sound and the diamond shape means that the rival plane is locked and in fire parameters for a missile (FOX 2 sound changes) hope i helped
@VIPER03100 You have no idea what you are talking about. Fox 4 has nothing to do with guns. Its a facetious reference to missile shot; for example, if someone claimed to shoot a missile in an impossible situation, he might be accused of shooting a non-existent "top secret" missile requiring a "Fox 4" call. Also jokingly used when an aircraft is brought down by something other than a missile; for example, a midair collision. And that "rope" shows the trajectory of the aircraft, not the rounds.
@VIPER03100 Furthermore, that growling sound is the tone from the AIM-9's IR seakers. That IS the Fox 2 soundw which does not change unless the pilot closes the IR seakers, switches to a different weapon, or turns the master arm switch OFF. The box shape can also be an indication of pinned radar contact as even the gun retical in most fighers is radar guided. Therefor, the box does not necessarlily mean the pilot has IR seakers open.
@smithraymond09029 Viper03100 doesn't know what he's talking about. I cleared it up for you and him. You were right about the circle though. That is the gun sight. The larger one on the outside is easerier to view and gives the pilot a better point to guide with. The smaller circle on the inside is the point where the rounds would impact. The rope (which uses radar) illustrates the trajectory of the aircraft being persued. This way in low visiblilty the pilot can still persue the target.
@AeroSharkTech Hello always a pleasure to be corrected i was trying to help i never clamed that what i was saying its a fact Thanks for the update anyway sir.
@VIPER03100 Sorry I came off so sharsh. People on youtube like to pretend they are something they are not and it really aggravates the hell out of me. You're obviously not one of these people. I like your attitude. As long as you realize you always have room to learn you've got endless potential. Glad I could be of some help. Take it easy buddy.
For all those wondering WW2 - even vietnam - footage was recorded on tape that was only used once.In the 80s/90s and even early 00s 'guncam' footage was recorded on vhs tape which was never great to begin with and that was just re-recorded over time and time again; hence the crap footage quality from that era.
@AeroSharkTech not really,even though the same thing is said there :-P that's an interception,you don't fire in such missions,you just make sure that your enemy gets out of your airspace.
@gtamodman122 Really? Because the United States Naval Air Warfare TRADOC defines an interception as- "An operation in which a Blue flight flight is given directives to establish visual (or otherwise if directed) contact with the subject aircraft in effort to establish its type, origin, configuration, and intentions. Command or Pilot discretion (depending on scenario) will then be given whether to contact, engage, disengage, or escort the subject aircraft to any given destination.
@AeroSharkTech the United States Naval Air Force TRADOC is free to intercept aircraft any way it likes.In the Aegean,that's pretty much what happens between Greeks and Turks.Plus there is not really a need to determine the unknown aircraft's type,since our fighters don't take off for any other reason apart from intercepting Turkish aircraft and exercises.
@gtamodman122 No, this particular TRADOC is recognized and enforced by all NATO air forces. We all follow the same rules of engagement. We even train together. We confirm each others tactics and unify strategies in order to prevent friendly fire and mid air collisions in the battle field. And yes, there is total need to determine the unknown aircraft's type considering other nations share close airspace and there are civilian planes that get lost. You're not in the military are you?
@AeroSharkTech In Greece,the only case I can recall about a commercial airliner having to be intercepted was Turkish Airlines Flight 1476 which was hijacked in 2006 over our airspace.Our fighters escorted it to Italy.Violators are fighters most of the time,so when our pilots take off they approach them close enough to identify them and then chase them.but as I said they are not supposed to use weapons,unless they feel threatened or an enemy aircraft has fired against them.
@gtamodman122 Its actually happened 6 times since 2002. And even if it only happened once that doesn't mean it can't happen at all. No countries military is willing to take the chance of just shooting down an aircraft full of civilians...well, except the Russians. Anyway, at first you were saying there was no need to identify, now you're saying that they do so they can them chase them away. Its obvious you don't understand the complexities of Air Warfare TRADOC. This conversation is over.
@AeroSharkTech The identification comes along with the approach to the aircraft.If you get close to it you'll know what it is whether you want it or not.And if a civilian plane is found it won't be shot down of course.It will be escorted until it lands or until it reaches a specific point.I gave you a descrpition of what happens above the Aegean.You could also trying saying a word to the people asking things like "where is the kill?" in this video.
@gtamodman122 I don't need to ask. I know the exact time and date this took place. I know the names of both pilots involved as well. I also know both the squadrons and even the SN of the aircraft. Once again, you went from trying to say that I was wrong, to repeating exactly what I said in my second statement. At this point you're just trying to argue and you don't even know what about anymore. What military aviation experience do you have. The answer is obvious...NONE. Goodbye.
@AeroSharkTech Good for you,and I did not repeat anything.I told a man askig where is the kill why there was no kill.This is what happens above the Aegean.Nothing too complicated on the basic procedure.I just told him why the pilot didn't fire,and you started arguing about this.I think I gave him a simple explanation of why.You could have simply spoken to him as well.Thanks for correcting me,but I don't think I made any major mistake at my initial statement.
@gtamodman122 My whole point from the beginning was to inform you that there are more than one reason a pilot would shoot, not just because he was shot at. If you really want to relate to a pilot you need to open your mind to LEARNING. You don't know everything, and you sure don't know as much about air warfare as I do. I've doing it for six years. I'm trying to help you learn the truth, so the next time you are asked a similar question you can give a more detailed and accurate answer.
@AeroSharkTech well,the only reason I can think of a HAF pilot shooting down a Turkish aircraft is a case of a war or an attempt to prevent an attack from taking place.And I guess you would have been more satisfied if I had expressed my initial comment in a different way.
And irrelevant,but in which Air Force did you serve/are you serving?
@gtamodman122 Try to remember the Turks have lost several aircraft to the HAF in the lest decade. One was shot down by a HAF Miarage 2000 in 1996. That was a pretty big event. Anyway, I flew F-16s in the IAF until I was injured by a drunk driver while on vacation in the UK. My back was broken and they figured I was done flying. I've made a full recovery and I'm now in the U.S. flying North Atlantic Joint Aerospace Services F-5s as a test pilot. We modernize them then sell them overseas.
@AeroSharkTech Well,the only confirmed case i remember is the one with the Mirage that you mentioned.I have heard of other incidents as well,but Ι have heard of various other incidents.
@gtamodman122 Hey don't worry about it. It turns out that I actually get paid more flying for NAJAS and I get damn near twice as many flight hours per year too. I'm even rated in the Citation X, so if I wanted to start a corporate charter in the futuer I have some knowledge haha. Things really worked out for the better this way. That's the best advice I can share with anyone. Moments of trial and strife could turn out to be your best opportunities if you chose to see it that way. Good luck.
Y U NO SHOOT BRO?
ActiveStorage 1 week ago
@ActiveStorage cause it will start a war...
elasolezito 1 week ago
sound like greek
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 week ago
YO NXT LVS
DICKIEMONSTER 1 week ago
;)
DICKIEMONSTER 1 week ago
Yasou! ;)
baklawa1900 1 week ago
Buying f16 when haveing no money... european union will borrow us 100billion anyway.. Son of a bitches... Coused crisis coz u lot did things like that.. will give us money anyways.. Bustards no honour. Feel ashamed dickheads skums
SLAzgredzik1995 2 weeks ago
@SLAzgredzik1995 hahaha nonono that's where your wrong cuz the union have seen what people your are. First you have to pay your debt then maaaaby you will borrow more money. I don't work all day to pay taxes to help countries that don't pay back HELL NO!! So your should feel ashamed for having a corrupted system and idiot to leader you dumbass. hahaha will borrow your 100billion!!! Sure hope that never happen again you filthy rats...
thesoftish 1 week ago
@thesoftish first i am NOT GREEK and have nothing to do with them! however i agree with u, Greek crisis is mostly caused by retarded politicians that lied, didn’t save money and got their country in a massive depth, but Greece got into that trouble also coz of many other reasons like: it was leaving over its limits, people didn't pay taxes, i heard on news that Greek people get 800 euro from government as premium for washing hands at work and for eating food from canteen, i mean WTFF
SLAzgredzik1995 1 week ago
@SLAzgredzik1995 ahaa my bad friend I thought you was a greek defending that fucked up system them have. But yeah your right them brought this shit on them self now they should PAY...
thesoftish 1 week ago
@thesoftish i think u didn't get my message... EU already payed Greece like 150 billion at the start of the Greek crisis ,, i meant that they buy expensive planes such as F-16 but on the other hand they don’t have money and need to borrow from us, thats what pisses me of the most,, and we cant do shit about it coz they are in euro zone and if they go down then all euro goes down so we have to pay them for their mistakes and them leaving like kings when they aint got money. fukin fagots!!!
SLAzgredzik1995 1 week ago
@SLAzgredzik1995 These people don't deserve to be in the EU to start with. These people are thiefs liers and a corrupted system. These sons of bitches think that doing riots and shit against the goverment will help them spread some kind of revelotion? If you have a corrupted country that means the freakin elections, ministers, presidents, cops EVERYTHING is corrupted. EU should come with a diffrent aproach cuz I'd rather help the more needing in afrika and war countys instead!
thesoftish 1 week ago
@thesoftish yh man,, absolutely agreeddd i gt enough of those cocks stealing our money lol,,oh well hopefully the sort this shit out somehow.. good that other countries in eu like Spain, portugal etc didn't get same shit as greece coz then eu would be fucked up and it would break probably.. greece only 10 million people country and coused so much problems imaginne if spain with 40 million would get same troubles...
SLAzgredzik1995 1 week ago
@SLAzgredzik1995 We are buying planes and tanks from europe.... to protect GREEK territory from Turks. If turks attack Greece us a european citizen will you join Greek army to protect our borders...NO!!
Because you want only the economic union and not a real-friendship union. Do you know how many Afghan, pakistan, Indian, Albanian enter our borders every day and EU don't let us to send it to your country...
Freelandrew 6 days ago
@Freelandrew Russians will help Greek brothers :)
caspernok 6 days ago
@Freelandrew thts not the point and buying tanks and planes didn't put u into economic crisis,,,tell me if u leave in greece if all the stuff i said before is true.. coz thts what put ulot in this shit situation and its pissing everyone off in rest of europe coz we have to pay for yre mistakes.. youlot leaved like kings didn't care about anything and other countries who dont have much money and saved it had to all pay for youlot who lived over the standards and wasted the money on anything.
SLAzgredzik1995 5 days ago
@Freelandrew so u cant really say hehe friendship union can u... cmon u call friendship everyone every poor countries paying millions and billions for one country who got into crisis.. and about imigrants,, well if u really think they caused the crisis then ure stupid,, its all yre politicians faul who shouldnt let them in, in the first place and they also should make better policies involving illegal imigrants.
SLAzgredzik1995 5 days ago
@Freelandrew look at romanians,polish,lativans,lithuanians ..the eastern europen scum trying to make living in ireland and uk...what about that,
romanians beggin on the streets of ireland.....
Ash cloud crisis exposes 'the true nature of polish who couldnt fly to ireland to claim social money..
The Department's own official figures show that during the week of April 18, people were expected to sign on to the live register, but 3,515 people failed to show.
dudeofdublin 2 days ago
@SLAzgredzik1995 Where are u from?
Freelandrew 6 days ago
@Freelandrew im polish
SLAzgredzik1995 5 days ago
Muito bom !!!!
FoxskyPE 2 weeks ago
wasnt greece humiliated countles times in history, in a big way, like nationwide humiliation? isn't greece selling it's land to pay off debts? this is garbage to bring at least some good thoughts to depression.
behellit 2 weeks ago
@behellit every country has been humiliated countless times in history...and all these war shit dont do any good...i'm greek but first i am a human...fuck economics and politics...i have no enemies...only those that want harm humans(dont care if they are greek turkish americans russians or chinese) in any way ...either economically or military...sorry for my bad english
lefterul 2 weeks ago
"ΘΑ ΤΟΝ ΞΕΣΚΙΣΩ ΤΟΝ ΜΠΙΝΕ". ΛΗΞΙΣ.
PsychotronicWar 3 weeks ago
It's like playing snakes while flying
ThaRedwolf 3 weeks ago
What aircraft?
SorenityVids 4 weeks ago
@SorenityVids
I believe it's 2 F-16's doing BFM Training.
liveguns 2 weeks ago
@liveguns its not
its a Greek g16 chasing a Turk fucker
fotistis 2 weeks ago
Peace and love forever. Go make love people.
kerrykira 1 month ago
Komigime giden turk mongollari bunlari neden kendi tv lerinde hic gostermiyo..Eh tabi mongol turkler ancak kendilerini overler :)..Bir turk dunyaya bedeldir falan..Hani nerde mongol turk'u F-16 yi bile kullanamiyo..Yunanli lock i koydu ibneye :)
mhpmafiagercekleri 1 month ago
@mhpmafiagercekleri siktir git aq kürdü F-16 SİZİ VURMAKTA COK İYİ KULLANIRIZ..
ANNAISIZI SİKTİĞİM KÜRTLERİ
TurkishFirePower 4 weeks ago
ok guys if you want to see turkish f16 locked on greek mirage and f 16's ther r lots of videos about them, but how many greeks have? just 2, everyday there is a dogfight btw turks and greeks, but they could not even defend cyprus while turkey was invading it, they are all talk not much
05356158259 1 month ago
@05356158259 usa and britain stop greece from intervening to cyprus
polor89 1 month ago
@polor89 usa put emborgo on turkey 7 years, besides when turkey wanted to intervene in 1964 they stopped Turkey, to be more accurate Turkey did not have landing ships at that time They wanted from US but refused when things went worst in 1974 turkey modified some civilian ships and turned them into landing ships
05356158259 1 month ago
@05356158259 Not just two. More than eight videos.
Ghostsfeny 2 weeks ago
bundan böyle yüksek konsantrasyon ve istekle bu amina kodumun piclerini havada sikeceksiniz.
burakpasa 1 month ago
LOL YOU TRY TO FLY OVER US
WE FLY OVER UR FLAG
razor11079 1 month ago
adam sikmiş hakkını vermek lazım.
ernecati89 1 month ago
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wehehertanto 2 months ago
ΝΑ ΣΩΠΑΣΟΥΝ ΟΛΟΙ ΟΙ ΑΟΥ-ΔΕΣ ΜΕΣΑ ΑΠΟ ΤΙΣ ΟΘΩΝΙΤΣΕΣ ΠΑΡΑΚΑΛΩ!! ΔΕΝ ΞΕΡΩ ΔΕΝ ΜΙΛΑΩ ΜΕ ΜΑΘΑΝ ΟΙ ΓΟΝΕΙΣ ΜΟΥ ΝΑ ΛΕΩ ΑΠΟ ΜΙΚΡΟΣ . ΚΑΙ ΟΣΟ ΓΙΑ ΚΑΤΙ ΠΑΛΙΚΑΡΑΚΙΑ ΑΓΓΛΟΦΩΝΑ ΠΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΜΑΣ ΧΩΝΕΥΟΥΝ ΣΑΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ . ΙΔΟΥ Η ΑΠΑΝΤΗΣΗ ΄, Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΗΤΑΝ ,ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΑΝΩΤΕΡΗ ΣΑΝ ΛΑΟΣ .
eizot68 2 months ago
quality looks like vintage porn
SpeedyWatcher 2 months ago
@SpeedyWatcher Dumbfuck, I don't think it was their main concern to record this with quality...
TheHolycactus 2 months ago
@TheHolycactus
I gotta say it more clearly yet yes i couldnt think that a douche pops out trying to be a smart-ass. the point is that its old you fucktard. when you are recording a "vintage porn" the quality also is not main concern.
SpeedyWatcher 2 months ago
@SpeedyWatcher eheheh :)
gemerekli 2 months ago
hey
chaki83 2 months ago
Chill out all of you, we'll find a way to pump that oil off the Aegean shelf, before Texaco, BP and Shell come to do it for themselves.
nasos073net 2 months ago
@celestialhk PKK are freedom fighters in their own land while you in multiple occations proved to be genocidal butchers. Cyprus was the last example of this. We never tried to "expand" anything (you even have claims on Gavdos for crying out loud) neither we are untra-nationalistic and militaristic like you are. Minorities in Greece never had a reason to hate us since we never opressed them or tried to drive anyone out of our NATIVE lands so we have no terrorism here.
DINDRAGON 3 months ago
@DINDRAGON That's false you killed hundreds of thousands of women and children in Chameria it was the Chameria genocide... Greeks are worse than turks & even though America is providing your bread you are also anti American. Hope the us doesn't bail out ur lazy sorry ass
redfirekla 3 months ago
@redfirekla That was more like localized vendettas between Greek Albanians(Arvanites) and muslim Albanians that escalated to the point of military intervention. The irony of your claims is that local Albanians were never again touched by Greeks while the Albanian state has systemetically persecuted Greeks in Albania and had their properties confiscated and the villagers bullied out of their birthplace by the Albanian state even to that day.
DINDRAGON 3 months ago
@redfirekla Ooops sorry... did you say "hundreds of thousands"? For a moment I thought you said hundreds OR thousands.
HAHAHAHAHA! OH WOW! I seriously doubt that Chamuria EVER had a population of more than a few thousands.
Keep sucking up your kemalist propaganda unchewed. Your ignorance make it really easy for us to counter your points.
DINDRAGON 3 months ago
20 millions helens people and theyr poor economy what can do to turkey..search turkey army turkey economy and turkey guns.idiots.
muratdemirable 3 months ago
@muratdemirable It doesn't matter about money, its all about skill. Israel destroyed an entire country in two weeks. Greece are known for being angry and belligerent (just look at the news), what keeps them from destroying your beloved Turkey?
trechan 3 months ago
@muratdemirable turkar 78000000 2000000 kurder 30000000 turkar i anatolia ent central turkiet livink i conteiner end ceiv prodouktion fasolia salater patates etc etc you klinink plays in belkium germani france holland or scandinavia ritce malaka
Kukballe86 3 months ago
Dogfight or missile override mode?
macieksoft 3 months ago
I´m sorry, the best pilots are from Argentina!.
aalejandrojuarez 3 months ago
@aalejandrojuarez lol
Caio569 3 months ago
greek pilots are the best in the world.....
petfak 3 months ago
@petfak AND POOR İN THE WORLD.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
muratdemirable 3 months ago
@muratdemirable at least they are not dead pilots like turks are......
petfak 3 months ago
isnt this the footage from the visor that u guys got on you helmet's and dosent it work like if you look at the target it will lock on?
ScaryEntertainment 3 months ago
ARE YOU FUCKIN INSANE ? IF HE SHOT DOWN HIM A WHOLE WAR WIIL HAVE BEGUN. DONT WRITE BEFORE THINK
am3471fh 3 months ago
@am3471fh well thats why a greek Mirage 2000 shot down a turkish F16 in 1996. did you see any wars starting ?
dakiler2028 3 months ago
Μπραβο ρε παληκάρια!!!!! Την επόμενη φορα πάτα το γαμημένο το κουμπί, να τον σκίσεις στ' αλήθεια.
Telamon75 3 months ago 2
IDIOT WHY DIDNT YOU FIRE.
oh wait this isnt from real combat. lol
ThePirateMD 3 months ago
They don't kill. It just a missile lock warning.
PashaZafar 3 months ago
GREECE OUT OF EU, OR TOTAL WAR !
Enysvar 3 months ago
@Enysvar total war it is then
dakiler2028 3 months ago
@Enysvar total war.
soukerman3 3 months ago
@Enysvar Θες πόλεμο μωρή κουφάλα; Για έλα μια βόλτα και θα δω αν θα μου κλάσεις μια μάντρα αρχίδια ή όχι
geover330 3 months ago
0:45 translation: "too close for missiles, switching to guns."
afroav8er 4 months ago
@afroav8er say what? the translation is "5 o'clock and i'm in trouble" (other guy) "i see you too" (1st guy): "you know, on FOX 3, Fuck him" (2nd guy): "I'll fuck that bastard up"
geover330 4 months ago
@geover330
relax it was just a joke. said that cuz the hud switched to what looked to me was gunsights. then i thought of 'famous' top gun quote
afroav8er 4 months ago
greeks,
you have to sell all your aircraft to pay your debts
blackmorefan100 4 months ago
@blackmorefan100 I should fuck your mother and she has to pay me in order to clean our debt.
am3471fh 4 months ago
@am3471fh
mother fucker, son of bitch. you can not pay your debts even you sell your mother and all greek woman. asshole greek
blackmorefan100 4 months ago
@blackmorefan100
...mongoloid..
If i were you i΄d be worried about Turk soldiers coming back in bodybags from Kurdistan...and not Greece's financial problems...
capito??
so.. GET DA FUCK OUTTA HERE TURD!!
And take your inferiority complex with you....
zavarakatranemias 4 months ago
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laubased 4 months ago
I've noticed in most Western training videos, the pilots think mostly two-dimensionally. The bogey here tried to get out of trouble with flat scissors and failed, even though he had plenty of angle off the pursuer's nose, and the pursuer was at a high angle off tail, he kept crossing back in front of it. He should have climbed and barreled to start a rolling scissors and stay well off the attacker's nose.
Weaving just flies in front of the attacker's weapons over and over. Stupid.
kozmon0t 4 months ago
@kozmon0t You say BOGEY in a dogfight tape and you expect people to listen to you? Facepalm.
laubase 4 months ago
@laubase yeah, I do. Never mind the terminology, the maneuvers are what matter. When you're done licking your hand, try to explain why you think defensive rolling scissors wouldn't work. If you even know how they work.
kozmon0t 4 months ago
@kozmon0t <200 kts near floor. Only choices are to stack or continue flat scissors. Stacking = neutral unless one jet is thrust limited, in which case, he loses flat out. With the flat scissors, you at least have a chance in making the offender overshoot, albeit this dude is not doing it right. Anyway, it's a training mission. Mistakes the tact lead makes are part and parcel for the DLO.
laubase 4 months ago
@laubase Really the worst mistake was flying right into the snap gunshot. At :48, it's flying leisurely in the attacker's guns plane and would have been hit at :49. The attacker was still closing, a snap roll right followed by a left barrel roll could get around the gunshot; or, if too slow, snap roll left, fly under then barrel right. RS may not be allowed in training at that altitude, but in a real fight it's better than flying into a gunshot. The futile flat weaving was later at > 300.
kozmon0t 4 months ago
@kozmon0t 0:48 was not a snap. That's considered tracking. But why the defender did not jink out of plane when seeing the nose track for him is beyond me. From what I can see, his only choices were to tuck under or NCD - none of which he did. This makes me think this was a offensive BFM set for the offender so he can practice his gun mech or there were some serious bandit cuffs.
You talk about real fights - may I ask what jet you fly and perhaps for which AF?
laubased 4 months ago
@laubased nope, just countless hours of 1-on-1 in sims. But you seem to agree it's better to maneuver out of plane than fly into a gunshot, in the real world.
kozmon0t 4 months ago
What do the Greeks eat for a celebratory post-dogfight meal? Turkey, of course!
SenorSpode 4 months ago
PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS FIRST before to buy military stuff and show off...
slider154 4 months ago
@slider154
And you thought all that by yourself??
...wow.....
zavarakatranemias 4 months ago in playlist Αγαπημένα του χρήστη zavarakatranemias
@slider154 *facepalm*
999lifegoes 4 months ago
@zavarakatranemias You're writing cheques your country cant cash - literally.
From the cradle of modern civilization to fucking laughing stock of the western world, bailout after bailout after bailout...
You Greeks are the welfare beggers of Europe. Enjoy the austerity that's coming your way.
shimarlie1 4 months ago
@shimarlie1 What is your problem with our country sir? Do you really know what is going wrong with our economy ? You sound like you do. Are you an economic expert? Please educate us .
dimitris779 4 months ago
@dimitris779
Whats to educate? Your country lied it's ass off about it's financial position to join the EU. Then you went on the same credit binge and cried poor when the bill came in. No tax, No revenue base from which to pay your debts. Hence the austerity.
Now EU has to bail you out because of the lies. If you weren't in the EU, I wouldn't give a fuck, you'd just become a banana republic and I'd laugh from the sidelines. But your problem is now OUR problem.
shimarlie1 4 months ago
@shimarlie1 So we lied! Ok. Let 's say that this a fact. What happened with Portugal and Ireland? What is happening now with Italy and Spain? Did they lie also ? Did it ever occure to you that the whole European experiment was built on unstable foundations?
dimitris779 4 months ago
@shimarlie1 Did you know that the bail out money that Europe is giving Greece are going straight to the banks both foreign and domestic that hold greek bonds? Did you know that the primary debt of Greece has been payed 7 times till now by the honest greek taxpayers.
dimitris779 4 months ago
@shimarlie1 That is what they tell you.Idiot.And you believe them.All of the EU countries have to understand that Greece's financial problems are planed.They attack EU via Greece and other not rich countries.Yes the leaders of Greece are selfish and did many stupid things,but you have to understand that THE BIG FORCES contributed to this,and now they taking our national treasures.U think that Greece people like the poor??Watch some videos of what happening in Greece,and take some more education.
Steveeee09876543210 4 months ago
Now you can't even afford the fuel you broke motherfuckers
shimarlie1 4 months ago
@shimarlie1
Then why dont you grow some balls and attack turco piece of shit???
zavarakatranemias 4 months ago
@zavarakatranemias
Maybe I will, you probably are still using the same planes!
Let me know when it's pension day, so you can pool your money to send it up for an hour.
Broke assed motherfuckers
shimarlie1 4 months ago
@shimarlie1
"Maybe i will"...
..Till then...how about,sit on a couch,relax, have a nice cup of STFU , and enjoy the video assbreath!
P.S my sincere condolences for your fallen turd soldiers who were gangraped by the kurdish freedom fighters..
Can you give me an address, so i can sent you some money from my pension to buy bodybags???
muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
zavarakatranemias 4 months ago
@zavarakatranemias
I'm not even a Turk malako.
shimarlie1 4 months ago
@shimarlie1
you re not even a human being...asshole....
zavarakatranemias 4 months ago in playlist Αγαπημένα του χρήστη zavarakatranemias
Dude, you are acquired.
bryonlape 4 months ago
240p, we meet again...
ROFLCOPTERsoysoysoy 5 months ago
@ROFLCOPTERsoysoysoy
its a 1996 video lol
GIANNHSPEIRAIAS 5 months ago
kill that bee!!
thewepajnc 5 months ago
Man that AIM 9 wanted to kill him so bad
fadedflage 5 months ago
Dude there'd be adrenaline leaking from my eyeballs.
RADIOACTIVEBUNY 5 months ago
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY That made me lol, legit
Boomachucka 4 months ago
@Boomachucka THEN LIKE IT, D*CK :P
RADIOACTIVEBUNY 4 months ago
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY rofl.
james342121 4 months ago
If you fly over our flag we will shoot you down...
Rikthful 5 months ago
This other plane is a tax inspector right?
larzinator1988 5 months ago
Microsoft simulator 1985?
BluuSkyz 5 months ago 2
i have this game, whats your ps3 username??
Buckcityremix 5 months ago
Ειναι kill απο ωρα....Καυλα....
TheKouvari 6 months ago
LOL he had the guns on him the whole time, the whirring sound is the heat of the aircraft's engine being tracked by the heat seeking missles but he had the gun's reticle on him anyway and if it was real he would have ripped the jet apart with the 20mm gun he a good stable shot on him for 3 seconds and that's enough.
SubaruWRXtreme 6 months ago
Turkish plane locked for half a minute..and thy cant lock us for even 2 seconds
mpampa100 6 months ago
Maybe someone with a military flying background can explain what all those shapes on the HUD mean? There was a a circle (with a smaller circle inside), a square, a diamond, and a line that looked like a rope dangling from the top. WTH is all that?
smithraymond09029 6 months ago
@smithraymond09029 The circle in a circle is probably the gunsight (Im not sure, im not familiar with greek HUDS).
FutureMarine1775USA 6 months ago
@smithraymond09029 Hello the circle you see points that the rival aircraft is too close for missile fire so the pilot switches gun mode (FOX 4) the rope like line you see indicates the trajectory of the shells if he opens fire.The box shape means that the infrared heads of his missiles are picking a heat signature from that direction therefore the grouling sound and the diamond shape means that the rival plane is locked and in fire parameters for a missile (FOX 2 sound changes) hope i helped
VIPER03100 6 months ago
@VIPER03100 You have no idea what you are talking about. Fox 4 has nothing to do with guns. Its a facetious reference to missile shot; for example, if someone claimed to shoot a missile in an impossible situation, he might be accused of shooting a non-existent "top secret" missile requiring a "Fox 4" call. Also jokingly used when an aircraft is brought down by something other than a missile; for example, a midair collision. And that "rope" shows the trajectory of the aircraft, not the rounds.
AeroSharkTech 6 months ago
@VIPER03100 Furthermore, that growling sound is the tone from the AIM-9's IR seakers. That IS the Fox 2 soundw which does not change unless the pilot closes the IR seakers, switches to a different weapon, or turns the master arm switch OFF. The box shape can also be an indication of pinned radar contact as even the gun retical in most fighers is radar guided. Therefor, the box does not necessarlily mean the pilot has IR seakers open.
AeroSharkTech 6 months ago
@smithraymond09029 Viper03100 doesn't know what he's talking about. I cleared it up for you and him. You were right about the circle though. That is the gun sight. The larger one on the outside is easerier to view and gives the pilot a better point to guide with. The smaller circle on the inside is the point where the rounds would impact. The rope (which uses radar) illustrates the trajectory of the aircraft being persued. This way in low visiblilty the pilot can still persue the target.
AeroSharkTech 6 months ago
@AeroSharkTech Hello always a pleasure to be corrected i was trying to help i never clamed that what i was saying its a fact Thanks for the update anyway sir.
VIPER03100 6 months ago
@VIPER03100 Sorry I came off so sharsh. People on youtube like to pretend they are something they are not and it really aggravates the hell out of me. You're obviously not one of these people. I like your attitude. As long as you realize you always have room to learn you've got endless potential. Glad I could be of some help. Take it easy buddy.
AeroSharkTech 6 months ago
@AeroSharkTech Thats ok sir no offence taken allways have room to become better...
VIPER03100 6 months ago
it looks like a sperm is trying to find the egg
mrrapidfire 6 months ago 2
it's a training simulation the "opposite side" is another f-16
napsta08 6 months ago
what is that line that turns with the aircraft on the HUD?
Returacan 6 months ago
@Returacan That is the guide or "funnel" of cannon. It shows the calculated trajectory of shells shot from cannon aboard.
scarsflash 6 months ago
53 person are fucking turks
demifoto 6 months ago
you got a lock on, why didnt you fire?
unscrup123 6 months ago
For all those wondering WW2 - even vietnam - footage was recorded on tape that was only used once.In the 80s/90s and even early 00s 'guncam' footage was recorded on vhs tape which was never great to begin with and that was just re-recorded over time and time again; hence the crap footage quality from that era.
midnightmilo 7 months ago
missile lock... FIRE
11kaplands 7 months ago
greek bullshits
ultimatemanifest 8 months ago
@ultimatemanifest you obviously haven't watched HUD footages from TuAF fighters.
gtamodman122 7 months ago
You guys better not break it. It's still owned by the bank ey.
roflastc 8 months ago 2
Today's dog fight. A knife fight in a phone box.
matoy77 8 months ago
fuck off
CBMXX 8 months ago
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AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
and fuck black-and-white LSI???
PashaOrehov 9 months ago
In the hands of a Russian pilot of the Russian plane - this is the death of any pilot!!
PashaOrehov 9 months ago
@PashaOrehov Right...I'm sure all the dead honchos that fought US and Israeli pilots thought the same thing.
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
well, this is the thing that you could expect from a crappy greek jet :D
janissaruy 9 months ago
LOL Ace Combat Graphics are better than this....
genrolecaspe 9 months ago
He didn't kill
ranausman143 10 months ago
@ranausman143 these are interception dogfights,none is supposed to fire until he is fired upon
gtamodman122 10 months ago 21
@gtamodman122 according to what movie...Top Gun?
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
@AeroSharkTech not really,even though the same thing is said there :-P that's an interception,you don't fire in such missions,you just make sure that your enemy gets out of your airspace.
gtamodman122 9 months ago
@gtamodman122 Really? Because the United States Naval Air Warfare TRADOC defines an interception as- "An operation in which a Blue flight flight is given directives to establish visual (or otherwise if directed) contact with the subject aircraft in effort to establish its type, origin, configuration, and intentions. Command or Pilot discretion (depending on scenario) will then be given whether to contact, engage, disengage, or escort the subject aircraft to any given destination.
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
@AeroSharkTech the United States Naval Air Force TRADOC is free to intercept aircraft any way it likes.In the Aegean,that's pretty much what happens between Greeks and Turks.Plus there is not really a need to determine the unknown aircraft's type,since our fighters don't take off for any other reason apart from intercepting Turkish aircraft and exercises.
gtamodman122 9 months ago
@gtamodman122 No, this particular TRADOC is recognized and enforced by all NATO air forces. We all follow the same rules of engagement. We even train together. We confirm each others tactics and unify strategies in order to prevent friendly fire and mid air collisions in the battle field. And yes, there is total need to determine the unknown aircraft's type considering other nations share close airspace and there are civilian planes that get lost. You're not in the military are you?
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
@AeroSharkTech In Greece,the only case I can recall about a commercial airliner having to be intercepted was Turkish Airlines Flight 1476 which was hijacked in 2006 over our airspace.Our fighters escorted it to Italy.Violators are fighters most of the time,so when our pilots take off they approach them close enough to identify them and then chase them.but as I said they are not supposed to use weapons,unless they feel threatened or an enemy aircraft has fired against them.
gtamodman122 9 months ago
@gtamodman122 Its actually happened 6 times since 2002. And even if it only happened once that doesn't mean it can't happen at all. No countries military is willing to take the chance of just shooting down an aircraft full of civilians...well, except the Russians. Anyway, at first you were saying there was no need to identify, now you're saying that they do so they can them chase them away. Its obvious you don't understand the complexities of Air Warfare TRADOC. This conversation is over.
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
@AeroSharkTech The identification comes along with the approach to the aircraft.If you get close to it you'll know what it is whether you want it or not.And if a civilian plane is found it won't be shot down of course.It will be escorted until it lands or until it reaches a specific point.I gave you a descrpition of what happens above the Aegean.You could also trying saying a word to the people asking things like "where is the kill?" in this video.
gtamodman122 9 months ago
@gtamodman122 I don't need to ask. I know the exact time and date this took place. I know the names of both pilots involved as well. I also know both the squadrons and even the SN of the aircraft. Once again, you went from trying to say that I was wrong, to repeating exactly what I said in my second statement. At this point you're just trying to argue and you don't even know what about anymore. What military aviation experience do you have. The answer is obvious...NONE. Goodbye.
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
@AeroSharkTech Good for you,and I did not repeat anything.I told a man askig where is the kill why there was no kill.This is what happens above the Aegean.Nothing too complicated on the basic procedure.I just told him why the pilot didn't fire,and you started arguing about this.I think I gave him a simple explanation of why.You could have simply spoken to him as well.Thanks for correcting me,but I don't think I made any major mistake at my initial statement.
gtamodman122 9 months ago
@gtamodman122 My whole point from the beginning was to inform you that there are more than one reason a pilot would shoot, not just because he was shot at. If you really want to relate to a pilot you need to open your mind to LEARNING. You don't know everything, and you sure don't know as much about air warfare as I do. I've doing it for six years. I'm trying to help you learn the truth, so the next time you are asked a similar question you can give a more detailed and accurate answer.
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
@AeroSharkTech well,the only reason I can think of a HAF pilot shooting down a Turkish aircraft is a case of a war or an attempt to prevent an attack from taking place.And I guess you would have been more satisfied if I had expressed my initial comment in a different way.
And irrelevant,but in which Air Force did you serve/are you serving?
gtamodman122 9 months ago
@gtamodman122 Try to remember the Turks have lost several aircraft to the HAF in the lest decade. One was shot down by a HAF Miarage 2000 in 1996. That was a pretty big event. Anyway, I flew F-16s in the IAF until I was injured by a drunk driver while on vacation in the UK. My back was broken and they figured I was done flying. I've made a full recovery and I'm now in the U.S. flying North Atlantic Joint Aerospace Services F-5s as a test pilot. We modernize them then sell them overseas.
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
@AeroSharkTech Well,the only confirmed case i remember is the one with the Mirage that you mentioned.I have heard of other incidents as well,but Ι have heard of various other incidents.
Oh,by the way,I'm sorry about your accident.
gtamodman122 9 months ago
@gtamodman122 Hey don't worry about it. It turns out that I actually get paid more flying for NAJAS and I get damn near twice as many flight hours per year too. I'm even rated in the Citation X, so if I wanted to start a corporate charter in the futuer I have some knowledge haha. Things really worked out for the better this way. That's the best advice I can share with anyone. Moments of trial and strife could turn out to be your best opportunities if you chose to see it that way. Good luck.
AeroSharkTech 9 months ago
@AeroSharkTech by the way,what did you use to fly in the IAF?
gtamodman122 8 months ago
@gtamodman122 F-16I Sufa
AeroSharkTech 8 months ago
@AeroSharkTech pilot or WSO?
gtamodman122 8 months ago
@gtamodman122 Ahh, I see you know your aircraft ;). I was a pilot.
AeroSharkTech 8 months ago
@AeroSharkTech well,lucky you,you flew one of my favorite multirole fighters :-D
gtamodman122 8 months ago
@AeroSharkTech
Well Said, and thank you.
couchfighter 7 months ago
@gtamodman122 very top gun of you! ;)
custom14 7 months ago
@custom14 well,thank you xD but that's kinda the case.Our pilots wish to avoid firing as much as possible.Wars aren't very pleasant :P
gtamodman122 7 months ago