Alexander was not Greek or Slavic but both of them are fighting who will steal someone elses history.Albanians don't claim alexander to be Albanian but many scholar academics who have good knowledge of the Ballkans do.
@GemistusPletho Most schollars you said so I will consider that you at least have some knowledge, but there was a time where most scholalrs also thought there Greeks originated in Europe, why did that change? there was a time where most schollars thought every piece of civilization in modern greece was a sign of acnient Greek origin, why was tha proved wrong in the past 2 hundred years with new evidence that there were civilizations in Greece prior to the settling of ancient Greeks.
You are arguing red herrings. Most scholar claim Greeks are Europeans. The genetic record backs their up well into the neolithic period. (long long before ancient Greek even existed) Of course their were civilizations before ancient Greeks. There were civilziation before Germans, Israelis, Albanians, Americans, British, etc... Your point is meaningless.
@GemistusPletho Greeks have also one identity that you may be familiar with, it is called Hellenization,is a basic Greek thinking that they need to understand the world in they own ethnocentric terms otherwise the rest of the world does not exist,this has been a greek custom for centuries,it is present today they try to convert everyone from any continent to Greek culture.As history goes for centuries than those people will simply be recognized as greeks.
Instead of Greeks, why don't hypocrites like youu spend as much time deconstructing your own Albanian identity? Or do you believe in myths that you have pure albanian "blood"? If so, I recommend opening up a book on modern genetics because no such thing as ethnic DNA exists.
Your problem is your a racist. You expect Greeks to be pure but don't realize your own identity is also constructed of other ethnic and cultural inputs too. Pure hypocrisy.
@GemistusPletho the problem with you idiot is that when you can't win an argument or when you can't prove you start commenting racism and bullshit.I did not say i am saying it that we are monoblood because I am racins i said it because Albanians were a closed society in ancient times very suspecious of others, now if there were any mixes were so small that never made a bid impact.the way you are writing you are typical greek who tries everything to win an argument when they know they are wrong.
@GemistusPletho Anglo saxons I ment what we consider today british, yest we all know they came from somewhere else but do you considner an indian or Italian anglo saxon? if you do you are an idiot or you lock education big time. By you writing English i thoguht you would at lkist know what i ment.Now
Dude, hust because you speak Albanain doesn;'t make you part of some pure albanain race either. Someone from Pakestan can learn to speak albanain too. What makes you ethnically Albanians is your primary cultural choices not the racist nonsense you believe.
@GemistusPletho You did not get it,i don't want to respond to you cause you don't make sense.Albanians i said are the purest nation in the balkans and probably all Europe around because they were closed communities prior to massive Greek and slavic emigration in the balkans.U would not kow that cause u said Greeks originated in Europe when Greek history claims they had problems with Illirians once they settled there.I am not talkin grace you idiot i am talking history.
@GemistusPletho Because Greeks are mixure of so many races ethnics,don't make assumpions that everyone is.That is the problem with Greeks and slavics Greeks more hardheaded.Karaman Ali is a turkish name body converted to karamalis,don't you see evidence and i can go so much that can make a book about it.After all greeks stole history to built the modern state they would not be any different from what Bosnia is 3 different ethnicities converted to one and call themselves Greeks.
Actually need to do a DNA test on yourself champ. YOU are mixed too. Modern genetics consider your conceptualization of ethnic race basically 19th century crackpot science. There is no genetic test for ethnic identity.
@GemistusPletho DNA test idiot won't show that youy are some other ethnicity idiot there is not difference in DNA between people people are more than 99% identical no matter what ethnicity you come from.The way you can tell who you are look at someones face,Karaman Ali, Sfakianakis is he any different looking than a turkish or middle eastian citizen? Look closely and do comparison than come and give me your fake Euro-Greek arguments that you are trying to be rational
On one side you argue we are "turkish" on the other you argue that DNA doesn't show a difference. You make no sense moron. Your quack assessments based on your subjective pseudo-scientific claims only shows what a racist nazi you are.
We didn't steal history. Our identity, culture and language is Greek in more than name. If claim to be Greek why don't you call yourself Greek? Most Greeks would accept you. You don't though. You are just some punk hater that likes to lecture people in other countries about their identity without once looking to see just how "real" your own identity is.
@GemistusPletho Suppose Why don't greks today come up with philosophical thinking like in Aristotles time.Aristotle himself was immigrant in Athens i don't know if you knew that you probably do that is why you called him racist.The only ohilosophi today that greeks came up is how to go banckrupt.Germans were succesfull 2000 years ago they are still succesfull today, why aren't greeks the same, a nation always remember its roots why dod't greeks remember their philosophical roots.
You have things exactly backwards. Of all city dwelling people today there is no one that has more in common culturally with ancient counterparts than Greeks. You are just an insecure little hater.
To give you an example of your hypocrisy. In the 19th century, many Muslim chams didn't have an Albanian identity. Many of them actually considered themselves TURKISH. You gloss over this part of your history while lecturing Greeks? Your hypocrisy and intolerance is why you are a bigot.
@GemistusPletho there is tons of fake material with Greeks guy because Europe did not want to give credit to Middle east for their scientific advantages in the reineissance period so scholars than brought Greeks in just so they stop claims from middle east.You seem to care so much about mixing ethnicities probably cause you know you have some type of Caraman Ali blood in you.that bothers you.
I dont' believe in pure ethnicity as Nazis likeyou seem to believe of yourself (and this is despite that I have no non-Greeks in my known family lines).
@GemistusPletho There you go again mixing Albanian and Turkish together typical Greek argument.Yest we were occupied by Turks we know it for 500 years.That is all you hear from your Karaman Ali Kako greek mouths.That shows ultranationalism ugly orthodoxism.What Greeks should know is that you fuckers are another version of Turkish just like mamaluks were, Ottomans, Seljuk, Modern greece is a form of that that brought the orthodoxy and took Hellenic language. Look Around you body and think
Greeks have mixed with others in the region (as have you incidentally) but we are still biologically, culturally, linguistically and geographically related to ancient Greeks asshole.
Greek has been spoken in an UNBROKEN chain somewhere in the region of Greece leading all the way back to antiquity. It is one of the oldest living continuous use langauges in the world.
@GemistusPletho Is not hard to see evidence of that in Greece today.What you call Gyro Arabs call it shawarma, your pita is arabic pita, lifestyle in Greece comes very close to turkish lifestyle that is why many famours greek songs are a remade version of turskih or arabic,Albania is not where close to that you idiotFrench British, Germans are no where close.You claim to be Europe.Just think common sense,Go to Egypt you want see any difference in life style from that of athens.
@GemistusPletho Idiot,you just proved what kind of racist you are by bringin blue eyes and blond hair,more than half of your population came from mdoern day turky another 30 percent were slavics that is why there is some whites in Greece, and the rest were Albanians and other nationalities.Just accept the fact idiot, because i am aducated I don't buy stupidity like most people do.You find more ancietnt Greeks today in Southern Italy than you find In Greece
@GemistusPletho You competely misundestand what I am sayign cause as a typical Greek you see the world in your narrow Orthodox Greko style.I said your government will do anything to cover up the shit thay they have done.gumenica idiot is writen in papers and videotapes,destroyed homes are still there than albanians used to live in.Tha is what you do genocite and support more genocite and later just steal land and their history,There is a Threat to Greeks if trueth comes out is allready going.
Dude, during WW2 Chams aligned with the Nazis. Why don't you talk about the Greeks, jews and others they helped murder in Greece? All you do is say negative things about Greeks because you are a racist asshole.
Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components—name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association—were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. - Anthony D. Smith British Professor Emeritus of Nationalism and Ethnicity LSE, Nationalism and Modernism, 2003, Cambridge University Press.
@GemistusPletho Greeks like slavics do same thing take land from others and clame it theirs even tho history is writen in pure paper.Germans lost land after WW2 is that also fake according to you. you idiot orthodox undeccuate typical racist Greeek.Greece has one of the lowest education percentage in Europe, Albania suprisingly is among the highest you idiot be aware of who you are arguing
@x2factorxxx Man shut the fuck up you are typical unducated greek albaina was occupied by nazis you idiot they machined you down albania had nothing to do with that that is another way greek government covers up shit by claiming we allinged wiht them you idiot shithead. fuck you you fucking Gyro maker Karaman Ali, there is not difference from you or the mamaluks or the seljuk turks one are another version of them but here you go you talk shit for them. Fuck you
Wrong. Many chams colluded with nazis in the hopes of "greater albania"/ They massacred many Greeks in Axis occupied Greece (as well as participating in fascist Italy attacking Greek in the beginning of WW2)
@x2factorxxx You say not everyone changed their names fyuck you they still do it today every Albanian thas has gpne to Greece had to change the name in the 90s or esle Greek governmnet would return them back to Albania wow that is a good neighboor and you sit here youy say they did not change their names fuck you you got nothing talkning about nazis nazis never asked anyone to change their name and identity you idios to and you claim you are civilized fuck you Karaman Ali
"The majority of the Muslim Cham community had no idea of their ethnic origin or preferences beyond that of their local religious affiliations and considered themselves simply Muslims"
FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Macedonian Greeks from the Hellenic, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Macedonian Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes." The Greeks and their Heritage AJ Toynbe
@GemistusPletho you can fake words and make claims but hard evidence is impossible, and especially when you see population culture.You look turkish guy so do your famous singers and your politicians .So don.t mention Turkish and albania in same sentance you karaman Ali we know our history very well and we are proud of it cause even under the Ottoman empire that was one of the most powerfull we survived.Did you, NO, more than half of yourpeople cam from Turkey Karaman Ali.
YOu have no idea how I "look" asshole. I am white with blue eyes you racist cunt. And your claim more than half of Greeks came from "karaman" is pure bullshit . You are full of shit. You make up facts and widely exaggerate.
@GemistusPletho Your are no different from what mamaluks were, what you did is once ottomans declined there was a chance for you to take land from turkey jsut like all other ethnic groups such as kurds did you became sucesfull with European help and others did not.But until WW2 one of the main political survival policy that Greek politicians had to deal with is how to convert so many different religion and ethnicities into one Greko, and they came up with the ultranationalist policies
Assimilation is a normal part of nations asshole. Albanians have assimilated other ethnic groups (including Turks) into Albanians. Does that mean you aren't a real Albanian asshole? There are good people in albania but extremists like you aren't one of them.
@GemistusPletho so one way to do it is you are in Greece you change your name they still do that today from Karaman Ali to Karamali so it sounds Greek.When Greeks go to western countreis no one asks them to change their ugly long last names to english sounding last names even if that means they have to make special size passports to fit the Greek last name.ther you go that is why the threat is still there.Machaveli said people never forget lost property
@GemistusPletho Greek politicians are aware of that claiming property that is not theirs so somehow they have to defend it by arguing with macedonians over statue of alexander.TURKISH is KARAMAN ALI = KARAMALI, you cant argue that but play around with words.You are even ruled by Turks you idiot.Go learn history european money borrowed since 18th century to revolt agaisnt the turks not a new bankrupt phenomenon.Greeks the only nation in Europe to support the genocite in the 90s balkan crisis
YOu only open up books that have anti-Greek opinions not pro because you are a Greek hating bigot. You manipulate words like "genocide" and history to push your ultra natioanlist agenda.
@GemistusPletho Is not about speaking Albanian,is about groups of people located all over Albania who have been in the same place for centuries before even Germanic people established in Europe.What you call today Gumenica in Greece was not Gumenica until 1945 body and became gumenica with ethno cleasening there is old man in Albania that still remember their house in that same village.Stealing history that what I am talking about.
During the balkan wars (when Ottoman empire fell apart) everyone was killing one another so please spare me the manipulative ultra nationalist persecution lectures. I can tell a speaker is full of shit when they start moaning on and on how they are persecuted by Greeks.
@GemistusPletho you see what i am saying,You talk ultranationalism but you are an idiot cause Greece is known for its ultranationalist official racist identity.You are a typical Greek, but what you seem to lock on understanding is that you can't fake videotaped you can fake words.Guy you need education, you have basic education I am talking about Real education.Talkong about film and hard evidence that can't be faked Karaman Ali.
You have no education. You are just a racust ultra nationalist that has sick obsession over Greeks. Why don't you spend the same effort deconstructing your own Albanian idientity asshole. Do you seriously think you have pure Albanian blood? You don't even realize many Muslim Chams had a TURKISH identity in the 19th century while you lecture Greeks? Fucking racist hypocrtical asshole.
@GemistusPletho Groups of people with same language, tradition, custume, culture for centuries until Hellenics and later slavics came to settle in the are.One more hard evidence.Massive immigration resolts to large populations over time, that is why slavics are in such large numbers in Europe through centuries of immigration.Albanians stayed smaller because there was no input in Albanian populations from foreigners,if there were Albanians would be way more than what they are today.
@GemistusPletho Thanks to Europe Greeks became a modern state because there would't have been one after the Ottomans destroyed all eastern orthodoxy.Recently I was reading old political-culture books and gues what, untill late 1800s, there were stil scholars who still considered Greece and ancient Greece Middle East.But do me a favor don't respond cause I am not getting paid to give you lectures.
Actually the Rum millet was very influential in Ottoman empire. I would also note you were part of the Ottoman empire too guy. Why don't you put down Albania as you do Greece? You clearly have some sort of unhealthy obsession with bashing Greeks.
History doesn't only start in 1800. In the 15th century Greeks brought many ancient books to Europe where they taught Greek philosophy and language (when old Greco-Roman Byzantine state fell). They were hugely influential as teachers during the renaissance but its forgotten today. (typically by people like you)
@GemistusPletho I am not saying that one ethnicity is better than another, even tho greeks think that and decleare in public,But when talking about Alexandros just be open minded and look the evidance to see that there is far more evidence that he was not ethnic Greek than there is that he was.As you said it yourself,If language does not make you part of one ethnicity, than even if alexandros spoke Greek that did not make him greek.
Actually there is far more evidence that he was a Greek. He didn't only speak Greek he self-identified as Greek. He spread Greek culture. The only argument he wasn't Greek come from pseudo-scientific racist views of identity rather than cultural/linguistic. The funny thing is Alexander wasn't a racist like his tutor Aristotle. He saw Greek culture and education as most important feature of Greek identity (thus Hellenistic period and why we identify as Greeks today)
@GemistusPletho Only Greeks and slavics care if someone says Alexandros was not Greek.There is a reason why cause it publicizes that they have stolen history and they will do anything to cover up.If someone says Gandhi was not Indian no one will give a crap because everyone knows he was Indian by fact.The reason why Greeks have such a problem about alexandros to go to conflict with countries like Macedonia, do the math why.When yous till something, wopuld you want to have an officer invastigate?
You seem to care too. You basically argue against Greeks on every issue which explains your motivations are nationalist oriented rather than truth oriented. You don't even know basics like FYROM isn't actually located in anceint Macedonia. Its located in ancient Paeonia . FYROM ultra nationalists just confuse modern and anicent nomenclature for expansionists reasons. You don't even know that their fictional "United Macedonia" includes parts of Albania too.
@GemistusPletho Albanians don't give a shit about your Alexander.But,lets say he was Hellenic, there is a reason today they are called Greeks not hellenics very good reasons which I cant educate you on youtube.Do research.so if he identified himself with the ancients,would he consider himself greek today where more than half the population used to have turkish last names that converted to Greek eg Karamalis - in Turkish Karaman Ali very common last name.You have be idiot not to see it.
@GemistusPletho Albanians don't give a shit about your Alexander.But,lets say he was Hellenic, there is a reason today they are called Greeks not hellenics very good reasons which I cant educate you on youtube.Do research.so if he identified himself with the ancients,would he consider himself greek today where more than half the population used to have turkish last names that converted to Greek eg Karamalis - in Turkish Karaman Ali very common last name.You have be idiot not to see it.
@GemistusPletho IF there was Greek there would be no doubt in the first place.There is very good reasons why so many shcolars claim that he was not.Hundred years from now no one will claim than a president of a country is not from that country unless there is a very good reason for them to do so.if you claim someone leader from another country there is dangers cause the people of that other country can they say your country is mine.
@x2factorxxx I am not going to respond to you anymore cause you lock education.You said Greeks originated in Europe haha,typical of what you idiots say, just like slavics they came to Europe after 800s and they still claim they were there.Half your population is Turkish converted. You are not worth spending time writing to you.Greeks rank Number 1 in world for racism followed by slavics did you forget what slavics did in the last 20 years.
@GemistusPletho Alexander hated greeks and the trueth is that he was fighting greeks and most importantly he was never considered Greek by the greeks themself at the time. Why would that change today? why they call someone Greek when in ancient times they never considered him Greek in the fisrt place? it is greek cunstom. as I told you previously.Greeks today have to consider everyone in ancient world greek cause gives them creditability internationaly
I don't call myself Greek for credibility. I call myself Greek because I see myself as Greek. Sometimes I wish the rest of the world didn't exist so we wouldn't have to perpetually listen to smug racists assholes that ethnically harass greeks without once looking the mirror to see just what you have in common with their claimed roots that we don't have in spades over them.
@GemistusPletho How can you prove he self identified Greek I have no idea or how anyone would when in Greece those who know history argue about his identity and it has been a very delicate issue to them,Scholars are after all people and bias can exist as you may know, anyone can be a scholar. History is writen usually by one group of people who agree with each other.there are many things in history than can be and have been manipulated and it will continue in the future.
Ancient Macedonians self-identified as Greeks at the ancient Olympics (where they competed for centuries as Greeks) To compete at the ancient Olympics it was also required to be recognize as Greek by other Greeks.
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. " (Speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Greek-only Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, Histories, 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)
there are so many idiots in the world today that is why so many economic crisis. Macedonians today are slavic they came to the area after year 800 in massive immigration.Greeks speak Hellenic but the current Greeks are a mixure of Turkish-slavic-Albanian.That is why in North Greece people are white, Athens more middle east looking and in parts more like slavics.Greeks in the 17-18th century started to take all Hellenic and other histories in the area as their own achievements
You are a mix of people too buddy. In the 19th century many alleged "Albanians" didn't have an albanian identity (in particiular Mustlim Chams) Albanians assimilated Greeks, Turks and Slavs just like other nationalities did.
@GemistusPletho hahahaha you don't even know how to spell. Learn real history before you comment. Albanians are the only people in the balkans to have survived all the movements with the same language, customs, tradition etc. Down the road Albanians are the only people with pure monoethnic blood in the balkans There is some gypsies and some others but those don't even make 1% of population.You look like an idiot if you make a comment that goes directly against history.
You are the one that looks like an idiot.(and a racist) if you believe you have "monoethnic blood". You need to do a DNA test on yourself champ. It will easily disprove your kook pseudo-science that sounds like it came out a 19th century eugenicist handbook
And contrary to your claims prior to the Greek revolution we have many records of Greeks, speaking Greek, studying Greek philosophy, and identifying as Greeks (albeit under the Roman nomenclature). The problem is some confuse the different demographics of the Balkans under the Ottomans as representing the Greek people. (sort of like claiming Jews are actually Arabs because under the Ottomans Arabs were more numerous in Palestine)
@GemistusPletho I am not going to wrirte a book on youtube.There were people who spoke Greek withoug being Greek, just like today there is tons of non- anglosaxons who speak English, does that mean Indians, Africans, and latinos are English?
You are such an illiterate moron you don't know the so-called "anglo-saxons" are more genetically related to Basques! The anglo-saxon biological identity is british national myth. Your problem is you are a racist moron that deconstructs others out of their identity but is too stupid too realize your own arguments can be used against you.
LMAO. George Finley claimed the majority of people in Greece were Greeks not Albanians. Nor did he ever claim ancient macedonians spoke "Albanian". He's making a mocking statement you idiot. The Albanian language didn't exist in ancient Ancient Macedonians spoke and wrote in Koine Greek during the Hellenistic age. Fucking racist idiots obsessed with Greeks.
Who wrote this history? Is it Alexandros who wrote about his origin?
He took the culture that was enlightened to all the known world!
He was a man that made theory in Reality. Man of Action. Man to Enlighten.
EN LAS = INTO LIGHT In Ancient Greek N+L makes double L so ELLAS is the Enlighted. For this extreme man all nations could and can be part of the idea of Spirit, Freedom, Light, Justice, Respect and participate in the Virtues and Sharing of the sciences for the benefit of all.
Everyone is Greek these days. FYROM nationalist, I've even heard a few Turks claim it. Everyone except the people of actual Greece that speak Greek and call themselves Greeks. I can't understand how these people can claim to be related to ancient Greeks then be anti-Hellenic? It makes no sense. Racist morons.
Hahahaha Albanians even say they built Serbian churches on Kosovo and that Serbs stole them. Thats how far they go in stealing other peoples history. Alexandar was GREEK. Macedonians were not a nation but a part of the GREEK nation on the locality of Macedonia.
Those stupid Albos cant understand that there was more than one Greek state just as there were more than one Serb states when they didnt even have one.
alexander spoke the greek language learned the greek alphabet was living in macedonia greece before these slavic bastards get there...conlusion Alexander the great was from America
Man, these ANALbanians are sick. They think Mars is ANALbania too. When Alexander the Great ruled ancient Macedonia, you were on Caucas eating flies and mating with donkeys and goats. You are brought to Balkan by Turkish invadors you sons of bitches. Do a favour to all citizens of the world and hang yourselves!
Also i would like to add that you must look at the bigger picture and the things around Alexander. His generals had Greek names and also the weapons and swords also had greek names. I'm sorry but i feel and see that there is no way Alexander was Albanian.I am up for argument if anybody would like to discuss but if you do so please use intelligent reasoning and not just plain hate towards me.
I would believe this if there was proof. I'm not going to believe something because one man from scotland says so... Also it makes no sense Alexander had a greek tutor Aristotle and Alexander was a greek name. I don't see how he could have been albanian. Also why do we always say the ancient greeks arent todays greeks like thats some mystery every country and its people have diversified over the past 3000 years so thats an invalid argument. Show us real proof that he was anything else but greek
Yes he was Albo and he spread the Albanian langage and culture among all the cities he captured..His father Philip2 was Also Albanian.
Aristotle who tutoring Alexander was also Albo.(Aristotle is famus for documents recearch and ancient manuscripts written in ancient Albo).I can keep go on and change the History like that .I can challenge any FOOL who think that Μεγας Αλεξανδρος was Albo.RETURN BACK TO YOUR CAVES WHERE YOU BELONG.
PS:What was the religion of Alexander? answer me this question.
albanians you are very funny!!! alexandros o megas was albanian HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA poor uglyfaces turkalbos go back to mongolia faggots. get a life fucking retarded albos. you are nothing else than a disgrace of balcans.
get over it alexander was greek, FYROMians just causing trouble being a new country (1991) trying to claim history to pass through their generations. Alexanders mothers name was Olympia and fathers name Philip. End of story.
@bkdafkup91 stop bullshitin here man u know we know he was ALBANIEN cuz only albanien have the heart to fight no greek so aske ur grandfather what kind of pussuy u where always and u still are evrithing about ur history is FAKE the other states give u somthing cuz u hade never somthing of history and all u did is grabt ur pussys and shut up pritendet that is all truth FUCK OF now back to mongolia
Listen up everybody.I don't know about Alexander but i know something else."Conan The Barbarian" was an albanian.His homeland was Cimmeria (nowdays renamed as "Chameria").He was an excellent fighter and a great soldier.Don't tell me that Greeks are going to say otherwise.CONAN THE BARBARIAN WAS AN ALBANIAN ,end of story.Keep your hands away from him.You can't change history.ALEXANDER, SKANDERBERG AND CONAN ,are albanians, our national heros and it is proven.LONG LIVE CONAN
@Nemanja1475 Dardanian-Illyrian-Albanian churches were painted with serbian ugly colors and given serbian names,, does that make those Monasteries serbian? LOL there is enough Archeological proof of this, showing that the architecture of these Monasteries has NOTHING to do with serbian architecture. Ancient Dardanian-Illyrian-Albanian churches-monasteries are built in the same architecture like Italian churches and Monasteries, in the Roman-Catholic Mediterranean style.
Νοw ,everybody pay attention.Albanians don't have that long history they claim they have.So,they try to invent some and in some cases steal, as they are used to do.They say they have a great civilization one of the oldest in Europe.Oh yeahh?Can someone tell me what the fuck kind of civilization is this that can't read and write?Their language was not written until 1735 AD.We all know if you can't read and write not only you don't have a bit of culture,you 're equal with roma or even worse.VOMIT
@YAUJTAwarrior you idiot morron still you haven't said about the fact that your language was not written untill 1735 AD.Why don't you comment this fact?Because you don't like the truth.You know this thing about greek culture.The continent you live is called "EUROPE" and it is a greek name.That's how deep greek culture has affected the western civilization.You call "ALPHABET" the letters that you use to write your language and this is a greek word,too.
@jamesblond0000 LOL THEN EXPLAIN ME THIS-PAL ENGJELLI LIVED IN THE 14CEUTNRY RIGHT?WELL THE OLDEST ALBANIAN LETTERS TO BE EVER FOUND ARE BY HIM,THIS IS EVEDINCE OF US WRITING SINCE THA TIME,U WANT MORE?WHAT ABOUT THE ILLYRIAN STONE WRITTEN ON IT A PAK KE TAC WICH HAS MEANING ONLY IN ALBANIAN0HA PAK KE TE HAC,MEANS EAT LITTLE SO YOU HAVE WHAT TO EAT
@YAUJTAwarrior He wrote this,in latin.The structure, the rules and grammar of your language was formed in 1735 AD.And it was first taught almost a century later.Everytime you reply to my posts,you prove how ignorant and uneducated you are even when you talk about your own history and language.And the illyrian stone has nothing to do with your language,they are completely different things.Have you ever travelled abroad?Nobody says this crap,they will laugh at you
@YAUJTAwarrior suppose you are right about the 14 century.What the fuck have you been doing for thousands of years.?I'll tell you,you were milking the sheeps in the mountains.Ha ha,illyrian stone,my ass.Check this out.Ornela Muti=Ornela Shit,in your language.So the conclusion is that Ornela Muti is Albanian because her surname means "shit" in your language.The fact that her surname means something in your language that doesn't make her albanian.Car means "dick" in your language and so on.Wake up
@jamesblond0000 LOL PALIKARI means brave in your language,in ours mean dickhead AHAHHA!!!!What have we been doing what have we been doing?Lets see when turks came to the balkans albanians were the only ones resisting for more than 20 years..later invaded for 500 years and albanian wasnt allowed not like your gay coutnry where greek was allowed.And ur telling me where were we for all that time????u really are prooving hwo stupid you are...better for you if you dont continue
@YAUJTAwarrior havind made these conversations with you gave meaning to your pathetic life.The bottom line and that's what hurts you most,is that nobody knows anything about your shit county the "SHITPRIA".On the contrary everybody knows Greece and its affect and influence to the modern world.Visit another country and you'll see what i mean.That's what drives you crazy and there is nothing to do about it.Bow to the majestic greek civilization you crawling worms,admit the superiority of Greeks
@jamesblond0000 OF COURSE NOBODY KNOWS US OF COURSE,G.WASHINGRTON HALF ALBANIAN BY HIS MOTHER UNKNOWN,JIM&JAMES BELUSHI UNKNOWN,ELIZA DUSHKU UNKNOWN,SCANDERBEG UNKNOWN,PHYRRUS UNKNOWN ALEXANDER UNKNOWN,MUHAMED ALI UNKNOWN LOL WE ARE REALLY UNKNOWN LOL GO BACK TO ARABIA YOU BIATCH
@MrAvacadoes You call me "retart",the correct spelling is "retarD".You live in US,try to learn Enlglish.Being the albanian that you are, it doesn't surprise me you don't have the ability to write.Albanian language was not written until 1750 and you dare speak? Greece is superior to monkeys like albanian.US is number 1 because they were taught the greek civilization and culture like the rest of the western civilization did.You were milking the cows when mighty Greece was founding democracy.
@MrAvacadoes And you say Greek women love albanians?Ha ha.ALL albanian women that are in Greece are whores in profession.I have fucked plenty of them.And do you know who is their pimp?Their own family,brothers mostly force their sisters to prostitute.That kind of people you're.So if you have a female relative in Greece I may have already fucked her.When Greek man want to have cheap and wet pussy go to brothels and seek for albanian whores.They are cheap nasty and wild in bed, believe me
@YAUJTAwarrior Don't expect me to answer to your replies anymore.I will no longer continue dealing with inferior species like you. ΕND OF STORY ALBANIAN SHITPTAR.I will not let you infect my superior intelligence with your endless stupidity.Go to your natural environment and climb a tree
@jamesblond0000 LOOOOOOOOL YOUR SUEPRIOR INTELIGENCE...OH YES YOUR RIGHT,YOU ARE INTELIGENT SINCE YOUVE LEARNED A NEW LANGUAGE EXEPT YOUR ARABIC ONE,YOU SAID IWANT PROOFS AND FACTS I GAVE EM 2 U WHY DO U HIDE AFRAID OF TRUTH?NO I GET IT YOU CANT FACE IT NO PROB ALL GREEKS ARE THE SAME MAKING SHITTY VIDEOS AND STORIES NOW I KNOW WHERE PETER PAN CAME FROM LOL A GREEKS IMMAGINATION NOW GO TO YOUR ENVIROMENT-BETWEEN MY LEGS AHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!
@jamesblond0000 Lets see whta albanians have done and what greeks have done after ottoman time shall we?
Albanians-created modern egypt,invaded egypt,and sudan(5 times the size of france),didnt get defeated from britany,france,turkey(Muhamed Ali)
Scanderbeg defeated turks and made more victories than any other country
A.P.Tepelena was the 1st in east europe to ever have guns(from napoleon a gift) and albania was th eonly country with guns at that time.Now what has your propaganda to say about it
@YAUJTAwarrior Greece was invaded and occupied by Turks,until Greece was set free after the 1821 revolution,you uneducated morron.You can't save your own pathetic asses.You speak greek so does the western world and you don't know it.I can write down thousands of words and you'll be surprised.Here are some.Democracy,mathematics,music,telephone,cinema,geography,biology,kilometer,chaos,pathetic,irony,logic,psychology,economy,star,academy,category,problem,dialogue,character,airplane,automatic,etc
@jamesblond0000 lol UR SO FUCKED UP U KNOW LET ME SHOW YOU SOME THINGS 1ST:
Albanian language is listed as the oldest language in europe,words in albanian have been used in all indo-european languages,even your gay language.OH and also,those are modern words you asshole its like saying since every language uses the same word for internet then english is the mother of all languages and the oldest got it?
@YAUJTAwarrior you little piece o' shit what words you call "modern"?You came to the western world a few years ago,there are many things you have been taught wrong.These words are used centuries ago. "MODERN WORDS?" DEMOCRACY,MATHEMATICS,LOGIC,PROBLEM,MUSIC,CHAOS,STAR,HARMONY,BIOLOGY,GEOGRAPHY,and many more. GET A LIFE UNEDUCATED MORRON
hey stop with your idiotic crap, when the ottoman empire swept through our region, guess who resisted and fought until destruction, greeks did not record not even one single battle against the ottomans, serbs only fought one battle, battle of kosovo which ended with the beheading of prince lazar, whose daughter later became the daughter in-law of murad II, Albanians were independent for 35 years while you bitches were succumbed with no resistence..
Gjergj Kastrioti fought 25 battles, and he lost the 25th one in Kruja, while you bitches became vassals of the turks, give me a reference where it says greeks fought one battle against the turks?? have you got any? NOOO thats cos there isnt any, you kept your religion cos you accepted to suck turkish balls for mercy, you kept the turks happy with greek pussy so did the serbs who gave their queen to the enemy, vaginal connection! lol, this is the history of serbs and greeks!
ta kam nis gabim o Shqipe, me fal shume, mendova se ja nisa atijg grekut qe po bojshe debat ti me te ktu, e kam 'remove' komentin sa e dallova se e kam adresu gabim, te kerkoj falje.. :))
@YAUJTAwarrior so next time you want to say something ,you better learn some things first.You get a life and stop talking nonsense.If you want more greek words ,let me know.There is a whole lexicon (greek word ,too) which contains all the greek words that the majority of languages use.So suck my dick you uncivilized monkey and next time you want to argue with me ,DO IT USING ARGUMENTS AND FACTS
@jamesblond0000 U WANT ARGUMENTS EXEPT THE FACTS THT THE HIGHEST HOMOSEXUALITY IN EUROPE IS LISTED IN GREECE?OK
1-bobolina,marko bocari were albanian,even byron says that wich fought for the indipendence of greece but with the albanian man and dressed like an albanian.
2nd-he said:Most of the soldiers that are fighting for greece are albanian
3rd-the best collonels and generals were albanian
4rth-the best turkish soldiers were albanian or with albanian origin
@YAUJTAwarrior Ha ha now you put a high standard in our arguments with that comment of yours about "homosexuality".Whooh, you are real man.Bravo you non-homosexual.That reminds me of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the dictator of Iran.He gave a lecture and he swore to his life that there are no homosexuals in his coutry.The same thing you do.There is no point replying to your posts again since you are such a jerk.Suck my dick you mother fuckin' albanian monkey.
@jamesblond0000 DROP DA SOAP NIGGA CUZ YOU ENJOY TAKING IT DONTYA?NOW ONE QUESTION CUZ U SEEM TO BE A "SMART" GUY-WHY DONT YOU GO TO YOUR PROPAGANDA DAY BOSS AND MAKE SOME FALSE PROOFS AND FACTS LIKE THE CITIES I JUST GAVE TO YOU,UH YEAH RIGHT YOU DONT HAVE THEM OR HES TO BUSY SUCKING COCKS ITS OKAY I GET IT NP GREEKS ARE THE SAME TALK AND NEVER ACT MOTHERFUCKING PIECES OF SHIT NO PROB. NO PROB. UUUU ALSO ONE THING-R. DE NIRO SAID I HAVE ALBANIAN FATHER
Ali pasha a muslim gave his life to protect a gay nation like greece,hes the reason your not muslim,youre not praying to allah and that youre not in Turkey!Go on and search in google,yahoo,wikipedia books wherever you want and youll see what he did for gayreece.OH also something 4 us,E.Durham a well known brittish sayed-Only the albanian goes on for ever
@jamesblond0000 "The true history of mankind will be written only when albanians participate in its writting"-M.Lambertz
"The men who marched in Babylon,Persia and India were ancestors of the albanians"-W.Peacock
"The albanians have been born to resist and disobey"-Dursam Bey
"They may be only soldiers,but never let them get close to your plate or kneel before you,if you dont want to capitate them-Pasha Sulejman.Search for more in youtube Quotes for albanians
first of all u reterded brainwashed dement, try to learn english befour u start with this bullshit! This ethnic map which u put is one unreal SHIT, if u wanna see real ethnic map of 19th cent. Greece try to find this Philippson´s! Retarded motherfucker SHITptar! ta civsha!
And note that!The name Greece comes from Graia=old and was a religious adjective rather than a national name!Εllas/Ellin was the ethnic name for themselves.Citystates had their own rules but as a national call themselves Ellines.The name Greeks adopted by the Latins as a paraphrase/antidaneio from Graikoi.Graia called the Greek goddess Athena and Demeter!Therefore the difference in the names of Greece Macedonia is not exist!So..MACEDONIA IS ELLAS!
Alexander was not Greek or Slavic but both of them are fighting who will steal someone elses history.Albanians don't claim alexander to be Albanian but many scholar academics who have good knowledge of the Ballkans do.
x2factorxxx 1 month ago
@x2factorxxx
Alexander was a self-identifying Greek. Most scholars claim ancient Macedonians were Greeks.
GemistusPletho 3 days ago
@GemistusPletho Most schollars you said so I will consider that you at least have some knowledge, but there was a time where most scholalrs also thought there Greeks originated in Europe, why did that change? there was a time where most schollars thought every piece of civilization in modern greece was a sign of acnient Greek origin, why was tha proved wrong in the past 2 hundred years with new evidence that there were civilizations in Greece prior to the settling of ancient Greeks.
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
You are arguing red herrings. Most scholar claim Greeks are Europeans. The genetic record backs their up well into the neolithic period. (long long before ancient Greek even existed) Of course their were civilizations before ancient Greeks. There were civilziation before Germans, Israelis, Albanians, Americans, British, etc... Your point is meaningless.
GemistusPletho 1 day ago
@GemistusPletho Greeks have also one identity that you may be familiar with, it is called Hellenization,is a basic Greek thinking that they need to understand the world in they own ethnocentric terms otherwise the rest of the world does not exist,this has been a greek custom for centuries,it is present today they try to convert everyone from any continent to Greek culture.As history goes for centuries than those people will simply be recognized as greeks.
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
Your negative stereotypes of Greeks are just evidence that you a racist bigot.
GemistusPletho 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
Instead of Greeks, why don't hypocrites like youu spend as much time deconstructing your own Albanian identity? Or do you believe in myths that you have pure albanian "blood"? If so, I recommend opening up a book on modern genetics because no such thing as ethnic DNA exists.
Your problem is your a racist. You expect Greeks to be pure but don't realize your own identity is also constructed of other ethnic and cultural inputs too. Pure hypocrisy.
GemistusPletho 1 day ago
@GemistusPletho the problem with you idiot is that when you can't win an argument or when you can't prove you start commenting racism and bullshit.I did not say i am saying it that we are monoblood because I am racins i said it because Albanians were a closed society in ancient times very suspecious of others, now if there were any mixes were so small that never made a bid impact.the way you are writing you are typical greek who tries everything to win an argument when they know they are wrong.
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@GemistusPletho Anglo saxons I ment what we consider today british, yest we all know they came from somewhere else but do you considner an indian or Italian anglo saxon? if you do you are an idiot or you lock education big time. By you writing English i thoguht you would at lkist know what i ment.Now
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
Dude, hust because you speak Albanain doesn;'t make you part of some pure albanain race either. Someone from Pakestan can learn to speak albanain too. What makes you ethnically Albanians is your primary cultural choices not the racist nonsense you believe.
GemistusPletho 22 hours ago
@GemistusPletho You did not get it,i don't want to respond to you cause you don't make sense.Albanians i said are the purest nation in the balkans and probably all Europe around because they were closed communities prior to massive Greek and slavic emigration in the balkans.U would not kow that cause u said Greeks originated in Europe when Greek history claims they had problems with Illirians once they settled there.I am not talkin grace you idiot i am talking history.
x2factorxxx 20 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Because Greeks are mixure of so many races ethnics,don't make assumpions that everyone is.That is the problem with Greeks and slavics Greeks more hardheaded.Karaman Ali is a turkish name body converted to karamalis,don't you see evidence and i can go so much that can make a book about it.After all greeks stole history to built the modern state they would not be any different from what Bosnia is 3 different ethnicities converted to one and call themselves Greeks.
x2factorxxx 20 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Actually need to do a DNA test on yourself champ. YOU are mixed too. Modern genetics consider your conceptualization of ethnic race basically 19th century crackpot science. There is no genetic test for ethnic identity.
GemistusPletho 19 hours ago
@GemistusPletho DNA test idiot won't show that youy are some other ethnicity idiot there is not difference in DNA between people people are more than 99% identical no matter what ethnicity you come from.The way you can tell who you are look at someones face,Karaman Ali, Sfakianakis is he any different looking than a turkish or middle eastian citizen? Look closely and do comparison than come and give me your fake Euro-Greek arguments that you are trying to be rational
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
On one side you argue we are "turkish" on the other you argue that DNA doesn't show a difference. You make no sense moron. Your quack assessments based on your subjective pseudo-scientific claims only shows what a racist nazi you are.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
We didn't steal history. Our identity, culture and language is Greek in more than name. If claim to be Greek why don't you call yourself Greek? Most Greeks would accept you. You don't though. You are just some punk hater that likes to lecture people in other countries about their identity without once looking to see just how "real" your own identity is.
GemistusPletho 19 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Suppose Why don't greks today come up with philosophical thinking like in Aristotles time.Aristotle himself was immigrant in Athens i don't know if you knew that you probably do that is why you called him racist.The only ohilosophi today that greeks came up is how to go banckrupt.Germans were succesfull 2000 years ago they are still succesfull today, why aren't greeks the same, a nation always remember its roots why dod't greeks remember their philosophical roots.
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
You have things exactly backwards. Of all city dwelling people today there is no one that has more in common culturally with ancient counterparts than Greeks. You are just an insecure little hater.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
To give you an example of your hypocrisy. In the 19th century, many Muslim chams didn't have an Albanian identity. Many of them actually considered themselves TURKISH. You gloss over this part of your history while lecturing Greeks? Your hypocrisy and intolerance is why you are a bigot.
GemistusPletho 19 hours ago
@GemistusPletho there is tons of fake material with Greeks guy because Europe did not want to give credit to Middle east for their scientific advantages in the reineissance period so scholars than brought Greeks in just so they stop claims from middle east.You seem to care so much about mixing ethnicities probably cause you know you have some type of Caraman Ali blood in you.that bothers you.
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
I dont' believe in pure ethnicity as Nazis likeyou seem to believe of yourself (and this is despite that I have no non-Greeks in my known family lines).
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho There you go again mixing Albanian and Turkish together typical Greek argument.Yest we were occupied by Turks we know it for 500 years.That is all you hear from your Karaman Ali Kako greek mouths.That shows ultranationalism ugly orthodoxism.What Greeks should know is that you fuckers are another version of Turkish just like mamaluks were, Ottomans, Seljuk, Modern greece is a form of that that brought the orthodoxy and took Hellenic language. Look Around you body and think
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Greeks have mixed with others in the region (as have you incidentally) but we are still biologically, culturally, linguistically and geographically related to ancient Greeks asshole.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Albanians have received DNA from urks because you mixed with turks during Ottoman era (as did everyone in the region).
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Greek has been spoken in an UNBROKEN chain somewhere in the region of Greece leading all the way back to antiquity. It is one of the oldest living continuous use langauges in the world.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Is not hard to see evidence of that in Greece today.What you call Gyro Arabs call it shawarma, your pita is arabic pita, lifestyle in Greece comes very close to turkish lifestyle that is why many famours greek songs are a remade version of turskih or arabic,Albania is not where close to that you idiotFrench British, Germans are no where close.You claim to be Europe.Just think common sense,Go to Egypt you want see any difference in life style from that of athens.
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Look up the etymology of the words mathematics, philosophy, physics, biology, etc.. etc.. They aren't arab or Turkish champ.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Idiot,you just proved what kind of racist you are by bringin blue eyes and blond hair,more than half of your population came from mdoern day turky another 30 percent were slavics that is why there is some whites in Greece, and the rest were Albanians and other nationalities.Just accept the fact idiot, because i am aducated I don't buy stupidity like most people do.You find more ancietnt Greeks today in Southern Italy than you find In Greece
x2factorxxx 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho You competely misundestand what I am sayign cause as a typical Greek you see the world in your narrow Orthodox Greko style.I said your government will do anything to cover up the shit thay they have done.gumenica idiot is writen in papers and videotapes,destroyed homes are still there than albanians used to live in.Tha is what you do genocite and support more genocite and later just steal land and their history,There is a Threat to Greeks if trueth comes out is allready going.
x2factorxxx 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Dude, during WW2 Chams aligned with the Nazis. Why don't you talk about the Greeks, jews and others they helped murder in Greece? All you do is say negative things about Greeks because you are a racist asshole.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components—name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association—were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. - Anthony D. Smith British Professor Emeritus of Nationalism and Ethnicity LSE, Nationalism and Modernism, 2003, Cambridge University Press.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
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@GemistusPletho Mixalis Xatzidimitriu = Mahmud Hamil Haxhis in poor Turkish and I can go forever you douchebag.Go eat a gyro and stick it up you ass
x2factorxxx 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Greeks like slavics do same thing take land from others and clame it theirs even tho history is writen in pure paper.Germans lost land after WW2 is that also fake according to you. you idiot orthodox undeccuate typical racist Greeek.Greece has one of the lowest education percentage in Europe, Albania suprisingly is among the highest you idiot be aware of who you are arguing
x2factorxxx 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Even claiming a "typical Greek racist" shows what a racist YOU are. You negative streotype all Greek people because you are a manipulative bigot.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx Man shut the fuck up you are typical unducated greek albaina was occupied by nazis you idiot they machined you down albania had nothing to do with that that is another way greek government covers up shit by claiming we allinged wiht them you idiot shithead. fuck you you fucking Gyro maker Karaman Ali, there is not difference from you or the mamaluks or the seljuk turks one are another version of them but here you go you talk shit for them. Fuck you
x2factorxxx 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
again saying negative stereotypes like "you are typical unducated greek" shows what a racist asshole YOU are.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Wrong. Many chams colluded with nazis in the hopes of "greater albania"/ They massacred many Greeks in Axis occupied Greece (as well as participating in fascist Italy attacking Greek in the beginning of WW2)
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Cham_Albanian_collaboration_with_the_Axis
Your one sided telling of history only shows what a manipulative ultra nationalist bigot you are.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx You say not everyone changed their names fyuck you they still do it today every Albanian thas has gpne to Greece had to change the name in the 90s or esle Greek governmnet would return them back to Albania wow that is a good neighboor and you sit here youy say they did not change their names fuck you you got nothing talkning about nazis nazis never asked anyone to change their name and identity you idios to and you claim you are civilized fuck you Karaman Ali
x2factorxxx 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
You repeat the same bullshit over and over again. Some person names where changed around the Greek revolution but the vast majority weren't.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Jews have also changed names to fit in too. Do you deny them their identity too you Nazi asshole?
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx Mixalis Xatzidimitriu = Mahmud Hamil Haxhis in poor Turkish and I can go forever you douchebag.Go eat a gyro and stick it up you ass
x2factorxxx 9 hours ago
"The majority of the Muslim Cham community had no idea of their ethnic origin or preferences beyond that of their local religious affiliations and considered themselves simply Muslims"
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Cham_Albanians
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Macedonian Greeks from the Hellenic, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Macedonian Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes." The Greeks and their Heritage AJ Toynbe
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho you can fake words and make claims but hard evidence is impossible, and especially when you see population culture.You look turkish guy so do your famous singers and your politicians .So don.t mention Turkish and albania in same sentance you karaman Ali we know our history very well and we are proud of it cause even under the Ottoman empire that was one of the most powerfull we survived.Did you, NO, more than half of yourpeople cam from Turkey Karaman Ali.
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
YOu have no idea how I "look" asshole. I am white with blue eyes you racist cunt. And your claim more than half of Greeks came from "karaman" is pure bullshit . You are full of shit. You make up facts and widely exaggerate.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Your are no different from what mamaluks were, what you did is once ottomans declined there was a chance for you to take land from turkey jsut like all other ethnic groups such as kurds did you became sucesfull with European help and others did not.But until WW2 one of the main political survival policy that Greek politicians had to deal with is how to convert so many different religion and ethnicities into one Greko, and they came up with the ultranationalist policies
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Assimilation is a normal part of nations asshole. Albanians have assimilated other ethnic groups (including Turks) into Albanians. Does that mean you aren't a real Albanian asshole? There are good people in albania but extremists like you aren't one of them.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho so one way to do it is you are in Greece you change your name they still do that today from Karaman Ali to Karamali so it sounds Greek.When Greeks go to western countreis no one asks them to change their ugly long last names to english sounding last names even if that means they have to make special size passports to fit the Greek last name.ther you go that is why the threat is still there.Machaveli said people never forget lost property
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Some Greek names were changed but most were Greek long before the Greek revolution asshole.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Dionysius_the_Philosopher
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Greek politicians are aware of that claiming property that is not theirs so somehow they have to defend it by arguing with macedonians over statue of alexander.TURKISH is KARAMAN ALI = KARAMALI, you cant argue that but play around with words.You are even ruled by Turks you idiot.Go learn history european money borrowed since 18th century to revolt agaisnt the turks not a new bankrupt phenomenon.Greeks the only nation in Europe to support the genocite in the 90s balkan crisis
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
YOu only open up books that have anti-Greek opinions not pro because you are a Greek hating bigot. You manipulate words like "genocide" and history to push your ultra natioanlist agenda.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Is not about speaking Albanian,is about groups of people located all over Albania who have been in the same place for centuries before even Germanic people established in Europe.What you call today Gumenica in Greece was not Gumenica until 1945 body and became gumenica with ethno cleasening there is old man in Albania that still remember their house in that same village.Stealing history that what I am talking about.
x2factorxxx 20 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
During the balkan wars (when Ottoman empire fell apart) everyone was killing one another so please spare me the manipulative ultra nationalist persecution lectures. I can tell a speaker is full of shit when they start moaning on and on how they are persecuted by Greeks.
GemistusPletho 19 hours ago
@GemistusPletho you see what i am saying,You talk ultranationalism but you are an idiot cause Greece is known for its ultranationalist official racist identity.You are a typical Greek, but what you seem to lock on understanding is that you can't fake videotaped you can fake words.Guy you need education, you have basic education I am talking about Real education.Talkong about film and hard evidence that can't be faked Karaman Ali.
x2factorxxx 10 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
You have no education. You are just a racust ultra nationalist that has sick obsession over Greeks. Why don't you spend the same effort deconstructing your own Albanian idientity asshole. Do you seriously think you have pure Albanian blood? You don't even realize many Muslim Chams had a TURKISH identity in the 19th century while you lecture Greeks? Fucking racist hypocrtical asshole.
GemistusPletho 9 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Groups of people with same language, tradition, custume, culture for centuries until Hellenics and later slavics came to settle in the are.One more hard evidence.Massive immigration resolts to large populations over time, that is why slavics are in such large numbers in Europe through centuries of immigration.Albanians stayed smaller because there was no input in Albanian populations from foreigners,if there were Albanians would be way more than what they are today.
x2factorxxx 20 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Thanks to Europe Greeks became a modern state because there would't have been one after the Ottomans destroyed all eastern orthodoxy.Recently I was reading old political-culture books and gues what, untill late 1800s, there were stil scholars who still considered Greece and ancient Greece Middle East.But do me a favor don't respond cause I am not getting paid to give you lectures.
x2factorxxx 20 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Actually the Rum millet was very influential in Ottoman empire. I would also note you were part of the Ottoman empire too guy. Why don't you put down Albania as you do Greece? You clearly have some sort of unhealthy obsession with bashing Greeks.
GemistusPletho 19 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
History doesn't only start in 1800. In the 15th century Greeks brought many ancient books to Europe where they taught Greek philosophy and language (when old Greco-Roman Byzantine state fell). They were hugely influential as teachers during the renaissance but its forgotten today. (typically by people like you)
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Greek_scholars_in_the_Renaissance
GemistusPletho 19 hours ago
@GemistusPletho I am not saying that one ethnicity is better than another, even tho greeks think that and decleare in public,But when talking about Alexandros just be open minded and look the evidance to see that there is far more evidence that he was not ethnic Greek than there is that he was.As you said it yourself,If language does not make you part of one ethnicity, than even if alexandros spoke Greek that did not make him greek.
x2factorxxx 19 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
Actually there is far more evidence that he was a Greek. He didn't only speak Greek he self-identified as Greek. He spread Greek culture. The only argument he wasn't Greek come from pseudo-scientific racist views of identity rather than cultural/linguistic. The funny thing is Alexander wasn't a racist like his tutor Aristotle. He saw Greek culture and education as most important feature of Greek identity (thus Hellenistic period and why we identify as Greeks today)
GemistusPletho 19 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Only Greeks and slavics care if someone says Alexandros was not Greek.There is a reason why cause it publicizes that they have stolen history and they will do anything to cover up.If someone says Gandhi was not Indian no one will give a crap because everyone knows he was Indian by fact.The reason why Greeks have such a problem about alexandros to go to conflict with countries like Macedonia, do the math why.When yous till something, wopuld you want to have an officer invastigate?
x2factorxxx 19 hours ago
@x2factorxxx
You seem to care too. You basically argue against Greeks on every issue which explains your motivations are nationalist oriented rather than truth oriented. You don't even know basics like FYROM isn't actually located in anceint Macedonia. Its located in ancient Paeonia . FYROM ultra nationalists just confuse modern and anicent nomenclature for expansionists reasons. You don't even know that their fictional "United Macedonia" includes parts of Albania too.
GemistusPletho 19 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Albanians don't give a shit about your Alexander.But,lets say he was Hellenic, there is a reason today they are called Greeks not hellenics very good reasons which I cant educate you on youtube.Do research.so if he identified himself with the ancients,would he consider himself greek today where more than half the population used to have turkish last names that converted to Greek eg Karamalis - in Turkish Karaman Ali very common last name.You have be idiot not to see it.
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
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@GemistusPletho Albanians don't give a shit about your Alexander.But,lets say he was Hellenic, there is a reason today they are called Greeks not hellenics very good reasons which I cant educate you on youtube.Do research.so if he identified himself with the ancients,would he consider himself greek today where more than half the population used to have turkish last names that converted to Greek eg Karamalis - in Turkish Karaman Ali very common last name.You have be idiot not to see it.
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@GemistusPletho IF there was Greek there would be no doubt in the first place.There is very good reasons why so many shcolars claim that he was not.Hundred years from now no one will claim than a president of a country is not from that country unless there is a very good reason for them to do so.if you claim someone leader from another country there is dangers cause the people of that other country can they say your country is mine.
x2factorxxx 23 hours ago
@x2factorxxx I am not going to respond to you anymore cause you lock education.You said Greeks originated in Europe haha,typical of what you idiots say, just like slavics they came to Europe after 800s and they still claim they were there.Half your population is Turkish converted. You are not worth spending time writing to you.Greeks rank Number 1 in world for racism followed by slavics did you forget what slavics did in the last 20 years.
x2factorxxx 23 hours ago
@GemistusPletho Alexander hated greeks and the trueth is that he was fighting greeks and most importantly he was never considered Greek by the greeks themself at the time. Why would that change today? why they call someone Greek when in ancient times they never considered him Greek in the fisrt place? it is greek cunstom. as I told you previously.Greeks today have to consider everyone in ancient world greek cause gives them creditability internationaly
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
You are full of shit. You are pure narrative with no facts. The fact is its called the HELLENISTIC age not the "Macedonian" age for a reason.
GemistusPletho 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
I don't call myself Greek for credibility. I call myself Greek because I see myself as Greek. Sometimes I wish the rest of the world didn't exist so we wouldn't have to perpetually listen to smug racists assholes that ethnically harass greeks without once looking the mirror to see just what you have in common with their claimed roots that we don't have in spades over them.
GemistusPletho 1 day ago
@GemistusPletho How can you prove he self identified Greek I have no idea or how anyone would when in Greece those who know history argue about his identity and it has been a very delicate issue to them,Scholars are after all people and bias can exist as you may know, anyone can be a scholar. History is writen usually by one group of people who agree with each other.there are many things in history than can be and have been manipulated and it will continue in the future.
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
Ancient Macedonians self-identified as Greeks at the ancient Olympics (where they competed for centuries as Greeks) To compete at the ancient Olympics it was also required to be recognize as Greek by other Greeks.
GemistusPletho 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. " (Speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Greek-only Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, Histories, 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)
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x2factorxxx 1 month ago
there are so many idiots in the world today that is why so many economic crisis. Macedonians today are slavic they came to the area after year 800 in massive immigration.Greeks speak Hellenic but the current Greeks are a mixure of Turkish-slavic-Albanian.That is why in North Greece people are white, Athens more middle east looking and in parts more like slavics.Greeks in the 17-18th century started to take all Hellenic and other histories in the area as their own achievements
x2factorxxx 1 month ago
@x2factorxxx
You are a mix of people too buddy. In the 19th century many alleged "Albanians" didn't have an albanian identity (in particiular Mustlim Chams) Albanians assimilated Greeks, Turks and Slavs just like other nationalities did.
GemistusPletho 3 days ago
@GemistusPletho hahahaha you don't even know how to spell. Learn real history before you comment. Albanians are the only people in the balkans to have survived all the movements with the same language, customs, tradition etc. Down the road Albanians are the only people with pure monoethnic blood in the balkans There is some gypsies and some others but those don't even make 1% of population.You look like an idiot if you make a comment that goes directly against history.
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
You are the one that looks like an idiot.(and a racist) if you believe you have "monoethnic blood". You need to do a DNA test on yourself champ. It will easily disprove your kook pseudo-science that sounds like it came out a 19th century eugenicist handbook
GemistusPletho 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
And contrary to your claims prior to the Greek revolution we have many records of Greeks, speaking Greek, studying Greek philosophy, and identifying as Greeks (albeit under the Roman nomenclature). The problem is some confuse the different demographics of the Balkans under the Ottomans as representing the Greek people. (sort of like claiming Jews are actually Arabs because under the Ottomans Arabs were more numerous in Palestine)
GemistusPletho 3 days ago
@GemistusPletho I am not going to wrirte a book on youtube.There were people who spoke Greek withoug being Greek, just like today there is tons of non- anglosaxons who speak English, does that mean Indians, Africans, and latinos are English?
x2factorxxx 1 day ago
@x2factorxxx
You are such an illiterate moron you don't know the so-called "anglo-saxons" are more genetically related to Basques! The anglo-saxon biological identity is british national myth. Your problem is you are a racist moron that deconstructs others out of their identity but is too stupid too realize your own arguments can be used against you.
prospectmagazine(dot)co(dot)uk/2006/10/mythsofbritishancestry/
GemistusPletho 1 day ago
LMAO. George Finley claimed the majority of people in Greece were Greeks not Albanians. Nor did he ever claim ancient macedonians spoke "Albanian". He's making a mocking statement you idiot. The Albanian language didn't exist in ancient Ancient Macedonians spoke and wrote in Koine Greek during the Hellenistic age. Fucking racist idiots obsessed with Greeks.
GemistusPletho 1 month ago
copy and paste this and watch
Macedonia - The Ashmolean Museum's Testimony 2011
HellasOrthodox 3 months ago
Macedonia - The Ashmolean Museum's Testimony 2011 (2/2)
HellasOrthodox 3 months ago
Imbeciles. Albania is fake and we all know they were Macedonian. Their language diversed from Turkish and Greek.
Sereniama 3 months ago
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His mentality was just as his teacher's, Aristotelis .
That we are spiritual beings in physical bodies.
That we are concentrated light.
That we are living in universe.
To unite the people and live in peace.
Then came a new era through sharing and with struggle and difficulties.
The glorious Hellinistic epoch, for all humanity.
geometria0filosofia 3 months ago
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Who wrote this history? Is it Alexandros who wrote about his origin?
He took the culture that was enlightened to all the known world!
He was a man that made theory in Reality. Man of Action. Man to Enlighten.
EN LAS = INTO LIGHT In Ancient Greek N+L makes double L so ELLAS is the Enlighted. For this extreme man all nations could and can be part of the idea of Spirit, Freedom, Light, Justice, Respect and participate in the Virtues and Sharing of the sciences for the benefit of all.
geometria0filosofia 3 months ago
omg !!!yes alexander "was"albanian.XAXAXAXAXAXAXXAXAXAXAXAXA albanian country is only 100 years old !
DarkOrbitGR 3 months ago
@DarkOrbitGR
Everyone is Greek these days. FYROM nationalist, I've even heard a few Turks claim it. Everyone except the people of actual Greece that speak Greek and call themselves Greeks. I can't understand how these people can claim to be related to ancient Greeks then be anti-Hellenic? It makes no sense. Racist morons.
GemistusPletho 1 month ago
@DarkOrbitGR Μάθε ιστορία ρε κακομοίρη..
Panoskol 2 weeks ago
kete po ja them una qe ju greket jeni arvanit per ju thot europa edhe bota qe ju jeni mbledhur na e ter bota
iliria albania arvanit
beku49 3 months ago
how to speak Alexander Greek herolloti says that the Greek is knee religious
beku49 3 months ago
ne kote e aleksandrit nuk kishte gjuhe greke por pellazge ju greket dini pellazgisht
beku49 3 months ago
you Greeks are Macedonian Thracian Turkish Illyrian pellagei Hellen Roman istorite seems to have gathered the others
beku49 3 months ago
Who THE FUCK IS GEORGE FINLAY??????
lodhol 4 months ago
@lodhol your mother's boyfriend ;)
djditii 3 months ago
@lodhol An asshole who deosn't know shit.
Sereniama 3 months ago
hahahahahahahahah hahahahahahahah hahahaha
evangeloscyy 4 months ago
Hahahaha Albanians even say they built Serbian churches on Kosovo and that Serbs stole them. Thats how far they go in stealing other peoples history. Alexandar was GREEK. Macedonians were not a nation but a part of the GREEK nation on the locality of Macedonia.
Those stupid Albos cant understand that there was more than one Greek state just as there were more than one Serb states when they didnt even have one.
gvoz3 4 months ago
alexander spoke the greek language learned the greek alphabet was living in macedonia greece before these slavic bastards get there...conlusion Alexander the great was from America
asfaehey 4 months ago
Man, these ANALbanians are sick. They think Mars is ANALbania too. When Alexander the Great ruled ancient Macedonia, you were on Caucas eating flies and mating with donkeys and goats. You are brought to Balkan by Turkish invadors you sons of bitches. Do a favour to all citizens of the world and hang yourselves!
CCCCXD 4 months ago
funny....
rocoreb 4 months ago
This just proves my words that albanians and fyromians have the same mentality and culture.
Albanci i makedonci imat slichen mantalitet i kultura. Edno testo sa.
TranceElevation 5 months ago
Also i would like to add that you must look at the bigger picture and the things around Alexander. His generals had Greek names and also the weapons and swords also had greek names. I'm sorry but i feel and see that there is no way Alexander was Albanian.I am up for argument if anybody would like to discuss but if you do so please use intelligent reasoning and not just plain hate towards me.
quaabhunter 5 months ago
I would believe this if there was proof. I'm not going to believe something because one man from scotland says so... Also it makes no sense Alexander had a greek tutor Aristotle and Alexander was a greek name. I don't see how he could have been albanian. Also why do we always say the ancient greeks arent todays greeks like thats some mystery every country and its people have diversified over the past 3000 years so thats an invalid argument. Show us real proof that he was anything else but greek
quaabhunter 5 months ago
Yes he was Albo and he spread the Albanian langage and culture among all the cities he captured..His father Philip2 was Also Albanian.
Aristotle who tutoring Alexander was also Albo.(Aristotle is famus for documents recearch and ancient manuscripts written in ancient Albo).I can keep go on and change the History like that .I can challenge any FOOL who think that Μεγας Αλεξανδρος was Albo.RETURN BACK TO YOUR CAVES WHERE YOU BELONG.
PS:What was the religion of Alexander? answer me this question.
Omficouros 5 months ago
alexander the great was albanian... the first albanian lek.. had alexander the great 's head in it
luftim 6 months ago
albanians you are very funny!!! alexandros o megas was albanian HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA poor uglyfaces turkalbos go back to mongolia faggots. get a life fucking retarded albos. you are nothing else than a disgrace of balcans.
netved77 6 months ago
Thank You ,,,,,i bought the book and iam very surprised y this writer doesnt exsist in greek highschool history....now i know
TREASURESOFALBANIA 8 months ago
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indo europeans... pelasgians... illirians... albanopolis... epirus... arberia... albania... etnik albania
MrLadrocuori 8 months ago
get over it alexander was greek, FYROMians just causing trouble being a new country (1991) trying to claim history to pass through their generations. Alexanders mothers name was Olympia and fathers name Philip. End of story.
bkdafkup91 8 months ago
@bkdafkup91 stop bullshitin here man u know we know he was ALBANIEN cuz only albanien have the heart to fight no greek so aske ur grandfather what kind of pussuy u where always and u still are evrithing about ur history is FAKE the other states give u somthing cuz u hade never somthing of history and all u did is grabt ur pussys and shut up pritendet that is all truth FUCK OF now back to mongolia
MRjashanica 8 months ago
LONG LIVE ALBANIANS ....
superplisi 8 months ago
@Altin7777 Why all ancient inscriptions found in Macedonia are in ancient Greek?
Do you have any picture of this ancient speech to show?
Not form a modern albanian book of course.
I can write 100 speeches like this and post them, this doesn't make them real ;)
HaxaaN 8 months ago
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Listen up everybody.I don't know about Alexander but i know something else."Conan The Barbarian" was an albanian.His homeland was Cimmeria (nowdays renamed as "Chameria").He was an excellent fighter and a great soldier.Don't tell me that Greeks are going to say otherwise.CONAN THE BARBARIAN WAS AN ALBANIAN ,end of story.Keep your hands away from him.You can't change history.ALEXANDER, SKANDERBERG AND CONAN ,are albanians, our national heros and it is proven.LONG LIVE CONAN
jamesblond0000 10 months ago
Yep ! Serbian Churchs and Monesterys were built by Albanians,and its your property !
Alexander the Great was an Albanian !
Fucki'n sick people
Nemanja1475 10 months ago
@Nemanja1475 Dardanian-Illyrian-Albanian churches were painted with serbian ugly colors and given serbian names,, does that make those Monasteries serbian? LOL there is enough Archeological proof of this, showing that the architecture of these Monasteries has NOTHING to do with serbian architecture. Ancient Dardanian-Illyrian-Albanian churches-monasteries are built in the same architecture like Italian churches and Monasteries, in the Roman-Catholic Mediterranean style.
DonJeta0007 10 months ago
Νοw ,everybody pay attention.Albanians don't have that long history they claim they have.So,they try to invent some and in some cases steal, as they are used to do.They say they have a great civilization one of the oldest in Europe.Oh yeahh?Can someone tell me what the fuck kind of civilization is this that can't read and write?Their language was not written until 1735 AD.We all know if you can't read and write not only you don't have a bit of culture,you 're equal with roma or even worse.VOMIT
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 what culture?the illyrian culture,the same culture that saved greece and prevented it from being invaded by turks you asshole
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior you idiot morron still you haven't said about the fact that your language was not written untill 1735 AD.Why don't you comment this fact?Because you don't like the truth.You know this thing about greek culture.The continent you live is called "EUROPE" and it is a greek name.That's how deep greek culture has affected the western civilization.You call "ALPHABET" the letters that you use to write your language and this is a greek word,too.
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 LOL THEN EXPLAIN ME THIS-PAL ENGJELLI LIVED IN THE 14CEUTNRY RIGHT?WELL THE OLDEST ALBANIAN LETTERS TO BE EVER FOUND ARE BY HIM,THIS IS EVEDINCE OF US WRITING SINCE THA TIME,U WANT MORE?WHAT ABOUT THE ILLYRIAN STONE WRITTEN ON IT A PAK KE TAC WICH HAS MEANING ONLY IN ALBANIAN0HA PAK KE TE HAC,MEANS EAT LITTLE SO YOU HAVE WHAT TO EAT
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior He wrote this,in latin.The structure, the rules and grammar of your language was formed in 1735 AD.And it was first taught almost a century later.Everytime you reply to my posts,you prove how ignorant and uneducated you are even when you talk about your own history and language.And the illyrian stone has nothing to do with your language,they are completely different things.Have you ever travelled abroad?Nobody says this crap,they will laugh at you
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 Who said that?U need more proof oooooooo ok On the left illyrian cities on the right albanian cities:
Lisus-Lezhe
Skodra-Shkodra
Dyrrah-Durresi and many many more....u need more proof?ok Genti teuta agron all names present only iiiiiin Albania correct!
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior suppose you are right about the 14 century.What the fuck have you been doing for thousands of years.?I'll tell you,you were milking the sheeps in the mountains.Ha ha,illyrian stone,my ass.Check this out.Ornela Muti=Ornela Shit,in your language.So the conclusion is that Ornela Muti is Albanian because her surname means "shit" in your language.The fact that her surname means something in your language that doesn't make her albanian.Car means "dick" in your language and so on.Wake up
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 LOL PALIKARI means brave in your language,in ours mean dickhead AHAHHA!!!!What have we been doing what have we been doing?Lets see when turks came to the balkans albanians were the only ones resisting for more than 20 years..later invaded for 500 years and albanian wasnt allowed not like your gay coutnry where greek was allowed.And ur telling me where were we for all that time????u really are prooving hwo stupid you are...better for you if you dont continue
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior havind made these conversations with you gave meaning to your pathetic life.The bottom line and that's what hurts you most,is that nobody knows anything about your shit county the "SHITPRIA".On the contrary everybody knows Greece and its affect and influence to the modern world.Visit another country and you'll see what i mean.That's what drives you crazy and there is nothing to do about it.Bow to the majestic greek civilization you crawling worms,admit the superiority of Greeks
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 I Mde a song 4 u biatch:
U DISSED THE WRONG MOTHERFUCKER
THINGS JUST AINT THE SAME FOR AN ALBANER
SO MUCH DRAMA
SINCE 4 SEPTEMBER
WHEN GREECE MET THEIR MAKER
LICK MY BALLS TILL THEY ARE DRY
SORRY THEYRE BUSSY FROM OTHER GREEKS,COME AGAIN
SORRY,YOUD BLOW,BLOW COCKS,USE HOLE AS A STRAW AND BLOW SPERM OUT YOUR NOSTRILS
LIKE FROM EVERY ALBANIAN
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 OF COURSE NOBODY KNOWS US OF COURSE,G.WASHINGRTON HALF ALBANIAN BY HIS MOTHER UNKNOWN,JIM&JAMES BELUSHI UNKNOWN,ELIZA DUSHKU UNKNOWN,SCANDERBEG UNKNOWN,PHYRRUS UNKNOWN ALEXANDER UNKNOWN,MUHAMED ALI UNKNOWN LOL WE ARE REALLY UNKNOWN LOL GO BACK TO ARABIA YOU BIATCH
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 SINCE WHEN ARE GREEKS SUPERIOR,LAST TIME I CHECKED IT WAS THE US..WHAT A RETART...BESIDES WHY DO GREEK WOMEN LOVE ALBANIAN WEWE,LOL
MrAvacadoes 6 months ago
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jamesblond0000 6 months ago
@MrAvacadoes You call me "retart",the correct spelling is "retarD".You live in US,try to learn Enlglish.Being the albanian that you are, it doesn't surprise me you don't have the ability to write.Albanian language was not written until 1750 and you dare speak? Greece is superior to monkeys like albanian.US is number 1 because they were taught the greek civilization and culture like the rest of the western civilization did.You were milking the cows when mighty Greece was founding democracy.
jamesblond0000 6 months ago
@MrAvacadoes And you say Greek women love albanians?Ha ha.ALL albanian women that are in Greece are whores in profession.I have fucked plenty of them.And do you know who is their pimp?Their own family,brothers mostly force their sisters to prostitute.That kind of people you're.So if you have a female relative in Greece I may have already fucked her.When Greek man want to have cheap and wet pussy go to brothels and seek for albanian whores.They are cheap nasty and wild in bed, believe me
jamesblond0000 6 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior Don't expect me to answer to your replies anymore.I will no longer continue dealing with inferior species like you. ΕND OF STORY ALBANIAN SHITPTAR.I will not let you infect my superior intelligence with your endless stupidity.Go to your natural environment and climb a tree
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 LOOOOOOOOL YOUR SUEPRIOR INTELIGENCE...OH YES YOUR RIGHT,YOU ARE INTELIGENT SINCE YOUVE LEARNED A NEW LANGUAGE EXEPT YOUR ARABIC ONE,YOU SAID IWANT PROOFS AND FACTS I GAVE EM 2 U WHY DO U HIDE AFRAID OF TRUTH?NO I GET IT YOU CANT FACE IT NO PROB ALL GREEKS ARE THE SAME MAKING SHITTY VIDEOS AND STORIES NOW I KNOW WHERE PETER PAN CAME FROM LOL A GREEKS IMMAGINATION NOW GO TO YOUR ENVIROMENT-BETWEEN MY LEGS AHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HOMER TO WRITE A ILIADA,
FUCK IT ILL DO IT FOR YA
YOULL STILL LICK DICK
THIS BOOSHU BABARA
DONT MAKE ME SHOOT NIGHT ON YOUR FAT ASS YOU HOMOFUCK
OOO GAYREEK LOOK AT YOU I USE YOUR SAME SHIT AGAINST YOU,AND IM BETTER
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 Lets see whta albanians have done and what greeks have done after ottoman time shall we?
Albanians-created modern egypt,invaded egypt,and sudan(5 times the size of france),didnt get defeated from britany,france,turkey(Muhamed Ali)
Scanderbeg defeated turks and made more victories than any other country
A.P.Tepelena was the 1st in east europe to ever have guns(from napoleon a gift) and albania was th eonly country with guns at that time.Now what has your propaganda to say about it
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chessplayer100 8 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior Greece was invaded and occupied by Turks,until Greece was set free after the 1821 revolution,you uneducated morron.You can't save your own pathetic asses.You speak greek so does the western world and you don't know it.I can write down thousands of words and you'll be surprised.Here are some.Democracy,mathematics,music,telephone,cinema,geography,biology,kilometer,chaos,pathetic,irony,logic,psychology,economy,star,academy,category,problem,dialogue,character,airplane,automatic,etc
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 lol UR SO FUCKED UP U KNOW LET ME SHOW YOU SOME THINGS 1ST:
Albanian language is listed as the oldest language in europe,words in albanian have been used in all indo-european languages,even your gay language.OH and also,those are modern words you asshole its like saying since every language uses the same word for internet then english is the mother of all languages and the oldest got it?
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior you little piece o' shit what words you call "modern"?You came to the western world a few years ago,there are many things you have been taught wrong.These words are used centuries ago. "MODERN WORDS?" DEMOCRACY,MATHEMATICS,LOGIC,PROBLEM,MUSIC,CHAOS,STAR,HARMONY,BIOLOGY,GEOGRAPHY,and many more. GET A LIFE UNEDUCATED MORRON
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
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@jamesblond0000
hey stop with your idiotic crap, when the ottoman empire swept through our region, guess who resisted and fought until destruction, greeks did not record not even one single battle against the ottomans, serbs only fought one battle, battle of kosovo which ended with the beheading of prince lazar, whose daughter later became the daughter in-law of murad II, Albanians were independent for 35 years while you bitches were succumbed with no resistence..
chessplayer100 8 months ago
@jamesblond0000
Gjergj Kastrioti fought 25 battles, and he lost the 25th one in Kruja, while you bitches became vassals of the turks, give me a reference where it says greeks fought one battle against the turks?? have you got any? NOOO thats cos there isnt any, you kept your religion cos you accepted to suck turkish balls for mercy, you kept the turks happy with greek pussy so did the serbs who gave their queen to the enemy, vaginal connection! lol, this is the history of serbs and greeks!
chessplayer100 8 months ago
@chessplayer100 do i look greek/slavic to you?
YAUJTAwarrior 8 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior
ta kam nis gabim o Shqipe, me fal shume, mendova se ja nisa atijg grekut qe po bojshe debat ti me te ktu, e kam 'remove' komentin sa e dallova se e kam adresu gabim, te kerkoj falje.. :))
chessplayer100 8 months ago
@chessplayer100 ska prob.Po kot e ke me beso se greket jan shum bythqima dhe jan rrit me propagande dhe besojn vec ato genjeshtrat qe u thot qeveria
YAUJTAwarrior 8 months ago
@chessplayer100 TE lumt goja per ket fjali :)
MRjashanica 6 months ago
@MRjashanica
rrofsh Shqipe, duhet ti edukojme me zor kta legenat qe na rrethojne kufijt..:))
chessplayer100 6 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior so next time you want to say something ,you better learn some things first.You get a life and stop talking nonsense.If you want more greek words ,let me know.There is a whole lexicon (greek word ,too) which contains all the greek words that the majority of languages use.So suck my dick you uncivilized monkey and next time you want to argue with me ,DO IT USING ARGUMENTS AND FACTS
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 U WANT ARGUMENTS EXEPT THE FACTS THT THE HIGHEST HOMOSEXUALITY IN EUROPE IS LISTED IN GREECE?OK
1-bobolina,marko bocari were albanian,even byron says that wich fought for the indipendence of greece but with the albanian man and dressed like an albanian.
2nd-he said:Most of the soldiers that are fighting for greece are albanian
3rd-the best collonels and generals were albanian
4rth-the best turkish soldiers were albanian or with albanian origin
NOW SUCK MINE,ALI PASHAS AND BYRONS
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@YAUJTAwarrior Ha ha now you put a high standard in our arguments with that comment of yours about "homosexuality".Whooh, you are real man.Bravo you non-homosexual.That reminds me of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the dictator of Iran.He gave a lecture and he swore to his life that there are no homosexuals in his coutry.The same thing you do.There is no point replying to your posts again since you are such a jerk.Suck my dick you mother fuckin' albanian monkey.
jamesblond0000 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 DROP DA SOAP NIGGA CUZ YOU ENJOY TAKING IT DONTYA?NOW ONE QUESTION CUZ U SEEM TO BE A "SMART" GUY-WHY DONT YOU GO TO YOUR PROPAGANDA DAY BOSS AND MAKE SOME FALSE PROOFS AND FACTS LIKE THE CITIES I JUST GAVE TO YOU,UH YEAH RIGHT YOU DONT HAVE THEM OR HES TO BUSY SUCKING COCKS ITS OKAY I GET IT NP GREEKS ARE THE SAME TALK AND NEVER ACT MOTHERFUCKING PIECES OF SHIT NO PROB. NO PROB. UUUU ALSO ONE THING-R. DE NIRO SAID I HAVE ALBANIAN FATHER
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 Another evidence
Ali pasha a muslim gave his life to protect a gay nation like greece,hes the reason your not muslim,youre not praying to allah and that youre not in Turkey!Go on and search in google,yahoo,wikipedia books wherever you want and youll see what he did for gayreece.OH also something 4 us,E.Durham a well known brittish sayed-Only the albanian goes on for ever
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@jamesblond0000 "The true history of mankind will be written only when albanians participate in its writting"-M.Lambertz
"The men who marched in Babylon,Persia and India were ancestors of the albanians"-W.Peacock
"The albanians have been born to resist and disobey"-Dursam Bey
"They may be only soldiers,but never let them get close to your plate or kneel before you,if you dont want to capitate them-Pasha Sulejman.Search for more in youtube Quotes for albanians
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
Albanian actually has the most borrowed words in their language in whole of europe, and it language
illmatador2 11 months ago
first of all u reterded brainwashed dement, try to learn english befour u start with this bullshit! This ethnic map which u put is one unreal SHIT, if u wanna see real ethnic map of 19th cent. Greece try to find this Philippson´s! Retarded motherfucker SHITptar! ta civsha!
MAXIMILIANVS 11 months ago
hahaha. George Finlay was a Greek hater and many of his claims were proven false many years ago
raza121 11 months ago
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And note that!The name Greece comes from Graia=old and was a religious adjective rather than a national name!Εllas/Ellin was the ethnic name for themselves.Citystates had their own rules but as a national call themselves Ellines.The name Greeks adopted by the Latins as a paraphrase/antidaneio from Graikoi.Graia called the Greek goddess Athena and Demeter!Therefore the difference in the names of Greece Macedonia is not exist!So..MACEDONIA IS ELLAS!
4anuvis4 11 months ago