if you say so, im not sterotypical by music. i listen to messages. damn. cant even post something without getting thrown into a fucking group.i fucking hate uneducated brats...
BTBAM are definitely an aquired taste, but I'd advise that you stick it out. It can take a while to 'get them' but once you get over the initial shock of it you can really appreciate their ability.
Well said. That describes my transition from BTBAM tollerator to hardcore BTBAM fan. They are now my favorite band, but when I first heard them I could only listen to the intro of Alaska, the intro and ending of Selkies, etc. Now, I have all their albums and love all parts of all their songs, period, I honestly can't get enough of them! And I used to be just like the first two guys in this comment tree. In 2005, I would have agreed with them all the way. Now I beg them to give BTBAM a chance.
Hey dude, glad to hear it. It's definitely worth persisting when checking out music that isn't to your typical taste. This applies to any genre or style. It may take a while but it can open you up to a whole other world. =]
definitely man. i used to be way against any screaming, but now i cant get enough of it. you definitely have to get used to it, but it probably is the best effect for a song. people are just so damn narrowminded
I felt the same way at first. I hated it at first. I only checked them out because they played with DT on Progressive Nation. But at the same time i was intruiged by it. I basically dared myself to listen to more and more of Colors. It was track five (Ants in the Sky) that turned me around on BTBAM.
The more times you hear it, and the more you have it memorized, the better it gets. It's not as random or disjointed as it sounds at first.
cool band and i do respect peoples opinion so i wont say ur gay cuz u dont like the fal of troy but i will not tolerate sumone saying that BTBAM has more skill then the fall of troy.
1st off thomas erak sings and screams and plays the guitar, (wut other metal or metalish band does that?) although he never does low growls his range still exceeds most singers/screamers.u think he sounds more like a girl, thats opinionated the fact is that wut he does is seriously difficult. although sum stuff by BTBAM may seem more difficult because its faster, trust me ive been playin guitar for 7 years and they are all just scales, TFOT so much harder.
now u can say tfot sucks because u dont like their music which i can understand but ur a fuckin dumbass if u think BTBAM are better because their talent is better.
just to be clear i do like BTBAM im not hatin and im also not a stupid FCPREMIX only TFOT fan i know and can almost play any of their songs and ive been to countless concerts.
Wait, are you one of those idiots who think that the faster you can play the guitar, the better you are? Waggoner is better than Erak hands down. Go find a role model that actually has some inspiration behind him.
ur calling mme the idiot? read wut i said dipshit, "although sum stuff by BTBAM may seem more difficult because its faster, trust me ive been playin guitar for 7 years and they are all just scales, TFOT so much harder"
read before u shit outta ur mouth and btw look up lyrics to the dark trail, its about smokin oxycontin, talk about "inspiration"
Read the lyrics to EVERY SONG, each one is dedicated to a drug. These guys are a bunch of druggies! And again, you think that the harder (faster) a guitar part is, the better it is? Get your shit straight, it's about your creativity and what you can ADD to the music.
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HOW FUCKIN DUMB ARE YOU!? Someone else plz talk to me bout this, soemone who can READ
for the last time BTBAM are just fast scales, TFOT has more complex intricate riffs. and big suprise that BTBAM incorporates drugs in all their songs, explains why paul cant play the guitar, hes too high.
i swear to god if u say the same thing one mroe time ur legally retarded
I was talking about Manipulator. Every song on that album is dedicated to a drug, The Fall of Troy are all druggies. btbam are vegans and vegetarians.
dude one song is the oths are about a close person to tom that he feels is a "manipultor"
in dark trail that person is a drug, in the others they are people. ANother big surpirse a pussy band that deosnt eat meat.
i just read the lyrics to about 6 or so songs og BTBAM, they talk about scratching their eyes out or like everyother band how people need to realize how strong they are. oo tough shit
They aren't all just scales, and nearly everything song comes from a scale. The exception being some forms of jazz. And, I'm sure some stuff might be easier, BUT the real point of the technique, or "skill", is to help the emotion come across easier.
@colt45shootr you apparently are an idiot, i have been playing guitar for 12 years and i play both fall of troy and btbam.... the theory behind btbams music humbles fall of troy to the size of an ant, you need to practice your jazz theory buddy
@CheaKevinMercer scales scales n more scales. once u have the sweeping technique down and u can do scales fast, then u get shit like btbam. after ayear they have come to grow on me but i still respect thomas erak and the fall of troy a lot more. putting everything elese aside, thomas sings n screams while doing it which is near fuckin impossible
@colt45shootr get your shit straight..sweeping and screaming inst impossible :)
playing guitar isnt all about scales, right? you want real guitar, then listen to avenged sevenfold. i know btbam play more than scales too. never guess who i grew up with..
@xxyourmomx9 avenged sevenfold is the biggest poser band, they are gay, i have respect for their past drummer, but other than that they are not that good, and the guitar playing is nowhere near to as intense and good as this, and BTBAM is not mainstream like them
@xxyourmomx9 Dude its not about how the guitar is played. This band is wayy more genius then a7x. The tempos change in the most technical ways its pure genius, a7x is all about shreding
Yes I love both bands and I hate FCPREMIX now since thats the only song anybody knows by TFOT, but I like BTBAM more for the fact of they don't seem like their being "as" pretentious as The Fall Of Troy when it comes to time signature changes and just weird parts.
I just like how BTBAM makes much smoother transitions between different time signatures and really awesome key changes plus I'm not a big punk fan and I can hear the BIG punk influence in TFOT.
I agree with you completely. The reason I think BTBAM makes much smoother transitions is because other bands go into different time sigs. for the sake of throwing people off or just going into a different time sig. BTBAM does it because it feels right to do it in that particular part of that particular song with their particular style. They just make music the way they want, that's it. They don't do anything just to do it, they do it because it sounds good, if it doesn't fit, they don't do it.
they do it for the sake of they just wanna give it a weird feel and throw people off a lot but there is nothing wrong with that.
but there is something wrong if your changing time signatures literally every measure for an entire song. i'd probably hate the song but at the same time have a lot of respect for whoever is playing it lol.
Everything is "just scales", they're what make music etc. But BTBAM use various complex and lesser used scales, not commonly used in Western music, in each of their song, which really give color to their music, and the technicality in incorporating multiple scales into one song is what make them just so good.
im not saying that the scales makes the music bad, im just saying as a musician myself, scales are easier to play thats all.I also have a man crush on thomas erak just because he literally IS TFOT. (writes all the music for all the instruments and lyrics and sings and scremas and plays the guitar) wow
But what doesn't make sense is the way you're using the word scales, any and every song is in a scale, whether you purposely wanted to play in the scale or not, a scale is just a set of w/e notes you want in a song, and notes are consistant points in the spectrum that is sound, music. When you say scales are easy to play it also doesn't make sense, major and minor scales of course are easy, that's what most songs have, but use of intricate scales and key changes in songs are much more difficult.
right i was talking about minor and major scales and my point being no matter how fast u play them, still pretty easy. The Human Abstract are the epitome of fast minor and major scales. Theyre still beast though
K, I agree on that, speed is a seperate technique all together that has nothing to do with the complexity of the scale or scales you're using when you're playing. :)
Actually, you don't al ways need a scale buddy. Have you ever heard of something called a 13th chord? It's not a scale but you still can write a song with it.
Um, that doesn't make any sense, first off it's not that you "need" a scale, any song or piece you will play always has a scale b/c scales are just notes. Secondly, of course scales are needed; they describe the angle, point, or drive of a particular piece or song to help one understand it and learn from it etc. And thirdly, A song, for example, built on a theoretically complete C13, which has 7 distinct notes, would basically be the same as C Dominant/Mixolydian, which is a pretty common scale.
why do i even here the name fall of troy in between the buried and me area?????? dont even mention them in this territory, never heard much but dont have to btbam are FUCKING GODS when listenening to them jus talk about btbam cause no bands resemble or alike as them so shut the fuck up and appreciate bitches
That's very contradictory dude, these guys are also prog, the only difference is that Troy incorporate more Punk sound and rhythm into their songs. :)
why is it that we can't just enjoy the music and not have to rag on other bands just to be dicks? listen to the fuckin music, enjoy it, then fucking leave!
dream theatre is great there musicianship is fantastic but i think btbam has alot more sounds, and btbam musicianship is amazing also. i just h8 the attitude of dreamtheatre fans and prog rock. they feel like they know everything about music when i find thats not even close to the truth.
Fuck ear candy! This is ear crack!!!! I can't get enough. I wanna make love to this music. Then I want to run through a wall like the Kool-Aid man with my testicles on fire!
i was looking through FOT message board and i heard of these guys, i dont really like them...? its actually pretty bad and stuff, it just, i usually dont say this about a band i just heard of but they suck! ASS
btbam > the fall of troy. although i love both bands on an enjoyable listening level. between the buried and me's talent just blows away the fall of troy's. and let's not even get into skill..
white walls and ants of the sky are my 2 favorites on colors but anyways this song is pretty fucking good i love how the entire band is so able to combine so much melody yet aggression in every song on this cd
i love how they fuse other styles of music, like how they switch modes and scales at the circus-sounding part of the song towards the end.Fuck all of you homo-gay-gay sceneters...this is the way (dao) that hard-core should have gone!
I agree. The transition in "Prequel..." is fucking awesome. And the fact that they have the lead singer of Fear Before The March Of Flames on there makes it that much better. I would have to say my 2 favorite songs are Prequel to the Sequel and White Walls, but I just love the whole damn CD.
And just on a side-note: this isn't necessarily hardcore. It's progressive metalcore.
Amazing! Checked some top 10 Album of the year, and BTBAM and Nile was quiet close.. But BTBAM is alot better, and his growl is good actualy. Nils vocals wasnt that good, but the drummer and guitars was very talentful.
But still, my compenion! BTBAM got the "Album of the year"
Nile didn't do as good as I expected on Ithyphallic. It just seems like a watered-down version of Annihilation. It's not bad at all, but I just think they could have done much better on it.
And this album definately deserves to be #1. Greatest album of the year BY FAR!
Best Nile song by far is Annihilation of the Wicked. Heavy chugging at the beginning, but goes into crazy guitar and drum work you'd expect from Nile.
"tuffdog69" haha fuckstick..... at least I'm trying to get into them, I think there one of the better bands of the genre, but any songs w/out the opeth vox?
This band seems line an Opeth rip-of to me.I'm not saying that is necesery a bad thing,but I don't think it's good either.They should be more original.
Opeth rip??? how? explain please, if they're ripping anyone its def. dream theater, their music is like dream theater but for the hardcore/scene fan base..
i love the part around 4:20 when the drummer catches all of the figures that the guitars are playing, i think it's called tutti in Italian...fucking brutal!
btbam's use of time signature changes is second to none. only some of the craziest prog-jazz-fusion rivals it and oh wait...arent the guitarists both jazz masters?hmm might have something to do with why they rule
damnit, it's too big or something, i've tried to post twice now but it keeps bugging out on me...hopefully they show up eventually because i explained it pretty damn well given the space given on these things.
A timing like 21/16 would be a 16th note based time signature with 21 16th's a measure in it...I hope I helped you at least a little bit with time signatures...because sheet music is not really necessary for determining time.
This is an interesting song. I am not a fan of 'em, but a friend sent me a link to this song. I did not dig at first, but by the 3:14 mark I was enjoying it.
at 4:27-4:50 can anyone please tell me the timing on that part? im counting 12/4 but something is telling im completely wrong. that part is by far the best part of the song.
A band that's from where I live was in the same studio as them when they were recording this, and I guess the guitarist was so anal that he had to get EVERYTHING correct in recording, and actually recorded the whole song without the repeat sections. So yeah, I do believe they are some of the best musicians out there.
BTBAM is one of my favorite bands. second only to Opeth (in my eyes dont be hatin on other peoples tastes.) In many ways BTBAM are the best musicians ive ever heard.
this album is one of the most technically diverse albums i've ever listened to. they incorporate things you couldn't even imagine. i mean bluegrass hoe down kinda music and jazz solos it's absolutely amazing what these guys do. paul waggoner and dusty are absolutely fantastic guitarists
I originally had no intention of listening to this until the 18th, but my cousin downloaded it onto his ipod, the whole album. I couldn't stop him from playing it, so I heard the whole thing. I am definately still going to buy it when it comes out because it's so amazing. Just wait til you hear ants of the sky, probably their best song of all time.
Hell yea. Ants in the Sky is by far their best song in my opinion. It has EVERYTHING in it. It is the only song on the album that I listen to out of turn of all of the others songs.
my friend just got colors on my computer, so i burned it...and i just want to say, this song is NOTHING (still good) but NOTHING compared to the rest of the albulm. this is a very different BTBAM album, but the thing is, unlike other bands that can actually pull off being "different"
From 3:58 on reminds me of Dream Theater... But I love both BTBAM and Dream Theater so it's cool. I can't wait for this album. I'm buying two copies to compensate for the fucks that download it.
if you say so, im not sterotypical by music. i listen to messages. damn. cant even post something without getting thrown into a fucking group.i fucking hate uneducated brats...
xxyourmomx9 11 months ago
@xxyourmomx9 Uneducated brats? Really? Your fucking name is Your mom..
COOLBEANS8029 2 weeks ago
seashellnecklacebrah......... dont dog about tool please. they are the shit
JWRONG1996 1 year ago
RADIO STATION!?!? WHEN HAS RADIO BEEN THIS EPIC!?!
xXxAdelaidexx 1 year ago
next time wear a condom before you fuck my ears
ceddimo 1 year ago
not btbam, just the quality of this crap ass video. cant even hear any detail to the music.
esharpie420 2 years ago
sounds like shet lol
esharpie420 2 years ago
4:24 :D:D:D
qpwoeirutyzmxncbv123 2 years ago 4
I know that part is FUCKING AWESOME
Lucdiggs 2 years ago 3
it's soooo all over the place....
Italianboy225 2 years ago
well i dnt like dream theatre tht much
IWRESTLEDHISMOMONCE 2 years ago
to me the best progressive metal bands are: PROTEST THE HERO, TOOL, BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME, THE HUMAN ABSTRACT, THE NUMBER 12 LOOKS LIKE YOU
damexicano6 2 years ago
u forgot OPETH, DREAM THEATER, AND A LOT OTHERS.
arceus37 2 years ago 5
mastodon.
BLSberserkersdmf 2 years ago
well i guess you could say that, but I think they are just more metal instead of prog. they do have elements of prog but more metal.
arceus37 2 years ago
hahaahahaahahahaah
ButterMilkPancakes 2 years ago
LOL are you by any chance retarded?
797904 2 years ago
Gah, I hate Tool.
SeaShellNecklaceBrah 2 years ago
3:47
what does he say? lol
analfrost 2 years ago
...jazz
DrPunk14 2 years ago
i love this song its awesome
nikki9622 2 years ago
5:19 FALSETTO, MUTHASUCKAS!
RelytNacnud18 2 years ago 2
check out my foam born a and b cover if your bored and let me know what you think :P
kevstew26 2 years ago
fuck, what radio station was this ripped from? i have to listen to that one!
RPExecutor 3 years ago 3
Jazz.
ardellgough 3 years ago
4:25 marks my favorite breakdown of all time.
drumnskate45 3 years ago 2
I can't find anything in this music. I want to get into these guys, but. It sounds incoherent explosions
stormofstone 3 years ago
agreed!
Sk4t4n8rwp0s 3 years ago
BTBAM are definitely an aquired taste, but I'd advise that you stick it out. It can take a while to 'get them' but once you get over the initial shock of it you can really appreciate their ability.
SentinelConvergence 3 years ago 3
Well said. That describes my transition from BTBAM tollerator to hardcore BTBAM fan. They are now my favorite band, but when I first heard them I could only listen to the intro of Alaska, the intro and ending of Selkies, etc. Now, I have all their albums and love all parts of all their songs, period, I honestly can't get enough of them! And I used to be just like the first two guys in this comment tree. In 2005, I would have agreed with them all the way. Now I beg them to give BTBAM a chance.
supremebeing87 3 years ago 11
Hey dude, glad to hear it. It's definitely worth persisting when checking out music that isn't to your typical taste. This applies to any genre or style. It may take a while but it can open you up to a whole other world. =]
SentinelConvergence 3 years ago 2
definitely man. i used to be way against any screaming, but now i cant get enough of it. you definitely have to get used to it, but it probably is the best effect for a song. people are just so damn narrowminded
kubovciklovesbass 3 years ago
EXACTLY how i feel, it's like ive bought so many of their albums and listen to them all the time. i love every song
AntsOfTheSky21 3 years ago 2
I felt the same way at first. I hated it at first. I only checked them out because they played with DT on Progressive Nation. But at the same time i was intruiged by it. I basically dared myself to listen to more and more of Colors. It was track five (Ants in the Sky) that turned me around on BTBAM.
The more times you hear it, and the more you have it memorized, the better it gets. It's not as random or disjointed as it sounds at first.
Now Colors is one of my all time favorite albums.
charlesajones77 3 years ago 3
They are my favorite band now. haha. 3 months later.
stormofstone 3 years ago 3
JAZZ
jimi8318123 3 years ago
man..that davidesle dude does alot of comments..
RiiFleX 3 years ago 4
hahaha i know what a douche
samhainsexhc 3 years ago
Yep. :D
davidesle 3 years ago
HOW WE ABOUT WE SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO THE SONG
Also Thomas Eraks playign style is so different from these guys, or anyones for that matter. Making them harder to play. They're more obscure.
It's two different genres guys so shut it. Let's not compare Paganini to Pantera.
AlabamaManWhore 3 years ago 3
cool band and i do respect peoples opinion so i wont say ur gay cuz u dont like the fal of troy but i will not tolerate sumone saying that BTBAM has more skill then the fall of troy.
colt45shootr 3 years ago
1st off thomas erak sings and screams and plays the guitar, (wut other metal or metalish band does that?) although he never does low growls his range still exceeds most singers/screamers.u think he sounds more like a girl, thats opinionated the fact is that wut he does is seriously difficult. although sum stuff by BTBAM may seem more difficult because its faster, trust me ive been playin guitar for 7 years and they are all just scales, TFOT so much harder.
colt45shootr 3 years ago
now u can say tfot sucks because u dont like their music which i can understand but ur a fuckin dumbass if u think BTBAM are better because their talent is better.
just to be clear i do like BTBAM im not hatin and im also not a stupid FCPREMIX only TFOT fan i know and can almost play any of their songs and ive been to countless concerts.
colt45shootr 3 years ago
Wait, you actually think the Fall of Troy has more skill than BTBAM?! Is that a really bad joke?
Emmure06 3 years ago
do u play guitar?
colt45shootr 3 years ago
Wait, are you one of those idiots who think that the faster you can play the guitar, the better you are? Waggoner is better than Erak hands down. Go find a role model that actually has some inspiration behind him.
Emmure06 3 years ago
I second that! :D
davidesle 3 years ago
ur calling mme the idiot? read wut i said dipshit, "although sum stuff by BTBAM may seem more difficult because its faster, trust me ive been playin guitar for 7 years and they are all just scales, TFOT so much harder"
read before u shit outta ur mouth and btw look up lyrics to the dark trail, its about smokin oxycontin, talk about "inspiration"
colt45shootr 3 years ago
Read the lyrics to EVERY SONG, each one is dedicated to a drug. These guys are a bunch of druggies! And again, you think that the harder (faster) a guitar part is, the better it is? Get your shit straight, it's about your creativity and what you can ADD to the music.
Emmure06 3 years ago
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HOW FUCKIN DUMB ARE YOU!? Someone else plz talk to me bout this, soemone who can READ
for the last time BTBAM are just fast scales, TFOT has more complex intricate riffs. and big suprise that BTBAM incorporates drugs in all their songs, explains why paul cant play the guitar, hes too high.
i swear to god if u say the same thing one mroe time ur legally retarded
colt45shootr 3 years ago
I was talking about Manipulator. Every song on that album is dedicated to a drug, The Fall of Troy are all druggies. btbam are vegans and vegetarians.
Emmure06 3 years ago
dude one song is the oths are about a close person to tom that he feels is a "manipultor"
in dark trail that person is a drug, in the others they are people. ANother big surpirse a pussy band that deosnt eat meat.
i just read the lyrics to about 6 or so songs og BTBAM, they talk about scratching their eyes out or like everyother band how people need to realize how strong they are. oo tough shit
colt45shootr 3 years ago
The Fall of Troy are so amazing! :D
davidesle 3 years ago 2
AND! COMPLETELY DRUG FREE!
supremebeing87 3 years ago 2
They aren't all just scales, and nearly everything song comes from a scale. The exception being some forms of jazz. And, I'm sure some stuff might be easier, BUT the real point of the technique, or "skill", is to help the emotion come across easier.
ShaiTan931 3 years ago
@colt45shootr lol why would Paul get high? Why would the band incorporate drugs in all their songs? 3 of the bandmembers are straight-edge!
Sephiroth1219 1 year ago
@colt45shootr you apparently are an idiot, i have been playing guitar for 12 years and i play both fall of troy and btbam.... the theory behind btbams music humbles fall of troy to the size of an ant, you need to practice your jazz theory buddy
CheaKevinMercer 1 year ago
@CheaKevinMercer scales scales n more scales. once u have the sweeping technique down and u can do scales fast, then u get shit like btbam. after ayear they have come to grow on me but i still respect thomas erak and the fall of troy a lot more. putting everything elese aside, thomas sings n screams while doing it which is near fuckin impossible
colt45shootr 1 year ago
@colt45shootr get your shit straight..sweeping and screaming inst impossible :)
playing guitar isnt all about scales, right? you want real guitar, then listen to avenged sevenfold. i know btbam play more than scales too. never guess who i grew up with..
xxyourmomx9 1 year ago
@xxyourmomx9 A7X? lol
lankeysob 1 year ago
@xxyourmomx9 avenged sevenfold is the biggest poser band, they are gay, i have respect for their past drummer, but other than that they are not that good, and the guitar playing is nowhere near to as intense and good as this, and BTBAM is not mainstream like them
MrConassassin 1 year ago
@xxyourmomx9 Dude its not about how the guitar is played. This band is wayy more genius then a7x. The tempos change in the most technical ways its pure genius, a7x is all about shreding
COOLBEANS8029 2 weeks ago
Yes I love both bands and I hate FCPREMIX now since thats the only song anybody knows by TFOT, but I like BTBAM more for the fact of they don't seem like their being "as" pretentious as The Fall Of Troy when it comes to time signature changes and just weird parts.
I just like how BTBAM makes much smoother transitions between different time signatures and really awesome key changes plus I'm not a big punk fan and I can hear the BIG punk influence in TFOT.
OceanOfOilFilms 3 years ago
yeah dude i totally respcet your opinion, you either like it or you dont, haha
colt45shootr 3 years ago
I agree with you completely. The reason I think BTBAM makes much smoother transitions is because other bands go into different time sigs. for the sake of throwing people off or just going into a different time sig. BTBAM does it because it feels right to do it in that particular part of that particular song with their particular style. They just make music the way they want, that's it. They don't do anything just to do it, they do it because it sounds good, if it doesn't fit, they don't do it.
supremebeing87 3 years ago
yea its also like necrophagist.
they do it for the sake of they just wanna give it a weird feel and throw people off a lot but there is nothing wrong with that.
but there is something wrong if your changing time signatures literally every measure for an entire song. i'd probably hate the song but at the same time have a lot of respect for whoever is playing it lol.
OceanOfOilFilms 3 years ago
supremebeing87,
I love the way you worded that, and you're so right. I've listened to so many bands that sound exactly like the stereotypical metal band - noise.
BTBAM disproves that stereotype.
Mk927 3 years ago 2
Everything is "just scales", they're what make music etc. But BTBAM use various complex and lesser used scales, not commonly used in Western music, in each of their song, which really give color to their music, and the technicality in incorporating multiple scales into one song is what make them just so good.
davidesle 3 years ago
im not saying that the scales makes the music bad, im just saying as a musician myself, scales are easier to play thats all.I also have a man crush on thomas erak just because he literally IS TFOT. (writes all the music for all the instruments and lyrics and sings and scremas and plays the guitar) wow
colt45shootr 3 years ago
But what doesn't make sense is the way you're using the word scales, any and every song is in a scale, whether you purposely wanted to play in the scale or not, a scale is just a set of w/e notes you want in a song, and notes are consistant points in the spectrum that is sound, music. When you say scales are easy to play it also doesn't make sense, major and minor scales of course are easy, that's what most songs have, but use of intricate scales and key changes in songs are much more difficult.
davidesle 3 years ago 2
right i was talking about minor and major scales and my point being no matter how fast u play them, still pretty easy. The Human Abstract are the epitome of fast minor and major scales. Theyre still beast though
colt45shootr 3 years ago
K, I agree on that, speed is a seperate technique all together that has nothing to do with the complexity of the scale or scales you're using when you're playing. :)
davidesle 3 years ago 2
Actually, you don't al ways need a scale buddy. Have you ever heard of something called a 13th chord? It's not a scale but you still can write a song with it.
ShaiTan931 3 years ago
Um, that doesn't make any sense, first off it's not that you "need" a scale, any song or piece you will play always has a scale b/c scales are just notes. Secondly, of course scales are needed; they describe the angle, point, or drive of a particular piece or song to help one understand it and learn from it etc. And thirdly, A song, for example, built on a theoretically complete C13, which has 7 distinct notes, would basically be the same as C Dominant/Mixolydian, which is a pretty common scale.
davidesle 3 years ago 2
why do i even here the name fall of troy in between the buried and me area?????? dont even mention them in this territory, never heard much but dont have to btbam are FUCKING GODS when listenening to them jus talk about btbam cause no bands resemble or alike as them so shut the fuck up and appreciate bitches
JerseySkate 3 years ago
this song has the best breakdown ever. i love it.
kittyfftl 3 years ago
This is one of my favorite solos. Paul is such a creative guitarist.
btbam93 3 years ago
The Fall of Troy is great. Just saw them live last May.
Emmure06 3 years ago
Sick band, fall of troy is gay and their gay ass progressive rock genre is also very gay. This band is sick though, metalcore ftw.
objective11 3 years ago
BTBAM is progressive metal
BobSaggot666 3 years ago 2
Progressive metalcore, according to wikipedia. ; )
SanguineSythe 3 years ago
Wikipedia is pretty good on the subject of music, but not entirely specific, it likes to generalize some things. :)
davidesle 3 years ago
To be more specific it's progressive deathcore. :D
davidesle 3 years ago
That's very contradictory dude, these guys are also prog, the only difference is that Troy incorporate more Punk sound and rhythm into their songs. :)
davidesle 3 years ago 2
why is it that we can't just enjoy the music and not have to rag on other bands just to be dicks? listen to the fuckin music, enjoy it, then fucking leave!
Zackathor 3 years ago 11
Word.
Unflexablegrace 3 years ago 3
lol b/c in life there are plenty of dicks.
spartan3263 3 years ago
what she said.
cptmuska 3 years ago 2
Yes!!!!
orenjidance 3 years ago
dream theatre is great there musicianship is fantastic but i think btbam has alot more sounds, and btbam musicianship is amazing also. i just h8 the attitude of dreamtheatre fans and prog rock. they feel like they know everything about music when i find thats not even close to the truth.
btbamfan2323 3 years ago 2
Well put. The whole fan thing has gotten out of hand, the "Holier than thou" attitude about them and the music they listen to is annoying as fuck.
I'm a DT fan but not the kind you speak of.
Cheers.
Unflexablegrace 3 years ago 2
Fuck ear candy! This is ear crack!!!! I can't get enough. I wanna make love to this music. Then I want to run through a wall like the Kool-Aid man with my testicles on fire!
etsschu 3 years ago 3
Dude, you've got problems.
Emmure06 3 years ago
get help
leigh646 3 years ago
lol u get thumbs up for making me laugh at least =P -- first time ever hearing these guys, awesome song
Pale6Horse6Rider 3 years ago 2
i like some bits of it, but im not gonna lie, Dream Theater are the gods.
metropofreak 3 years ago
this band is pushing music, fuck all the other half ass bands im seeing on here listen to BTBAM
daz3d51 3 years ago
I don't like Metalcore very much at all, but BTBAM pisses on Dream Theater.
TheBrutalD 3 years ago
i was looking through FOT message board and i heard of these guys, i dont really like them...? its actually pretty bad and stuff, it just, i usually dont say this about a band i just heard of but they suck! ASS
XtheXperfectXtrioX 3 years ago
I love Fall of Troy, but these guys absolutely destroy them in every way.
Emmure06 3 years ago
I couldn't agree more with that comment. This music has more content in it than FOT... I'm not saying FOT's bad though.
orenjidance 3 years ago
btbam > the fall of troy. although i love both bands on an enjoyable listening level. between the buried and me's talent just blows away the fall of troy's. and let's not even get into skill..
btbam > fall of troy
FruscianteErak1221 3 years ago 2
fall of troy is good but def not btbam haha not close
btbamfan2323 3 years ago
White Walls is fuckin' unbelievable.
Emmure06 4 years ago
viridian's bass solo into white walls may be the most intense piece of music of the last 20 years.
westhamsandwich 4 years ago
ahem brother
icanfeelmyselfrottin 3 years ago
white walls and ants of the sky are my 2 favorites on colors but anyways this song is pretty fucking good i love how the entire band is so able to combine so much melody yet aggression in every song on this cd
knifeteethgrinder 4 years ago 2
i love how they fuse other styles of music, like how they switch modes and scales at the circus-sounding part of the song towards the end.Fuck all of you homo-gay-gay sceneters...this is the way (dao) that hard-core should have gone!
hangdawg 4 years ago
I agree. The transition in "Prequel..." is fucking awesome. And the fact that they have the lead singer of Fear Before The March Of Flames on there makes it that much better. I would have to say my 2 favorite songs are Prequel to the Sequel and White Walls, but I just love the whole damn CD.
And just on a side-note: this isn't necessarily hardcore. It's progressive metalcore.
Cheers!
ibz11 4 years ago
its actually the end's singer thats in prequel to the sequel i believe
knifeteethgrinder 3 years ago
He sang with them live, but on the album it's the singer from FBTMOF.
ibz11 3 years ago
They're one of my favorite Prog Metal bands. Brilliant!
EternityAwaits 4 years ago 3
Amazing! Checked some top 10 Album of the year, and BTBAM and Nile was quiet close.. But BTBAM is alot better, and his growl is good actualy. Nils vocals wasnt that good, but the drummer and guitars was very talentful.
But still, my compenion! BTBAM got the "Album of the year"
julenernice 4 years ago
lol according to ultimate guitar rite
ShimoOwnzU 4 years ago
Nile didn't do as good as I expected on Ithyphallic. It just seems like a watered-down version of Annihilation. It's not bad at all, but I just think they could have done much better on it.
And this album definately deserves to be #1. Greatest album of the year BY FAR!
ibz11 4 years ago
yeh i doubly agree, although papyrus... and the essential salts are incredible, they bow to lashed to the slave stick and user-maat-re IMO.
icanfeelmyselfrottin 3 years ago
Best Nile song by far is Annihilation of the Wicked. Heavy chugging at the beginning, but goes into crazy guitar and drum work you'd expect from Nile.
ibz11 3 years ago
growl shit? dude what the fuck seriously dont try to downgrade a band like this.. more talented than any other band i have ever heard.
Stampede36 4 years ago
if you dont like his vocals, dont listen to them you fuckstick, your not worthy.
tuffdog69 4 years ago
lol
boniface1158 4 years ago
"tuffdog69" haha fuckstick..... at least I'm trying to get into them, I think there one of the better bands of the genre, but any songs w/out the opeth vox?
asshairman09 4 years ago
Opeth's singer actually sings more than he screams.
And yes, there are plenty of songs...but most of them have both the screaming and singing in them.
Check out Backwards Marathon.
EternityAwaits 4 years ago
This band seems line an Opeth rip-of to me.I'm not saying that is necesery a bad thing,but I don't think it's good either.They should be more original.
GoodlikeSweeper 3 years ago
come on. youre bashing btbam because you think they need to be more original?...word.
just sayin, theyre frkn brilliant
joeytiago 3 years ago
Opeth rip??? how? explain please, if they're ripping anyone its def. dream theater, their music is like dream theater but for the hardcore/scene fan base..
oscar7557 3 years ago
Dream theater? AHAH
deathmetaliscool 3 years ago
tone def?
oscar7557 3 years ago
been trying to get into them but the vox kill it for me, any other songs where they don't do the whole growl shit?
asshairman09 4 years ago
they are one of my favorite new bands. so versatile.
5hinmyoken 4 years ago
i love the part around 4:20 when the drummer catches all of the figures that the guitars are playing, i think it's called tutti in Italian...fucking brutal!
hangdawg 4 years ago
btbam's use of time signature changes is second to none. only some of the craziest prog-jazz-fusion rivals it and oh wait...arent the guitarists both jazz masters?hmm might have something to do with why they rule
woodstone90 4 years ago
i agree, they should collaborate w/ Al di Meola, or chick corea. I wish jazz/fusion artist would play more blast-beats and stuff more like this...
hangdawg 4 years ago
That's the coolest thing anyone's ever thought of.
EternityAwaits 4 years ago
hahahaha what's the deal with dream evil at the end!? lmao xD
quality song anyway! btbam fuckin OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
slipknotsubliminal 4 years ago
alright short and sweet now:
4/4
bottom 4=what type of note will be used to measure the time. (4 is a quarter note, 8 is an 8th note, 16 is a 16th note)
top 4=how many of that bottom note are in the measure.
so 4/4=four quarter notes per measure...I can't fit in my in-depth explanation, sorry.
playswithpassion 4 years ago
damnit, it's too big or something, i've tried to post twice now but it keeps bugging out on me...hopefully they show up eventually because i explained it pretty damn well given the space given on these things.
playswithpassion 4 years ago
Damnit my first post didn't show up...hold on I'll explain it again for ya E.
playswithpassion 4 years ago
A timing like 21/16 would be a 16th note based time signature with 21 16th's a measure in it...I hope I helped you at least a little bit with time signatures...because sheet music is not really necessary for determining time.
playswithpassion 4 years ago
if u look at music for BTBAM they actually change time alot... anywhere from 4/4 to 21/16 its pretty friggin nuts
Vasquez724 4 years ago
i mean how to you tell time changes?
emericashoes 4 years ago
man the albums great i kinda like ants in the sky best of all though
rarehound 4 years ago
yeah, it's definitely a simple meter
robitussin217 4 years ago
This is an interesting song. I am not a fan of 'em, but a friend sent me a link to this song. I did not dig at first, but by the 3:14 mark I was enjoying it.
mickbynes 4 years ago
yeah, I love this band. I didn't know they are going to release a new record.
kse22 4 years ago
it's already released
MelodicDaath 4 years ago
at 4:27-4:50 can anyone please tell me the timing on that part? im counting 12/4 but something is telling im completely wrong. that part is by far the best part of the song.
greggers31 4 years ago
its actually 4/4
Pakistexican88x 4 years ago
how can you tell?
emericashoes 4 years ago
when u look at the sheet music it shows the time
Vasquez724 4 years ago
how can u not fucking tell that they change times.
god damn. and why the fuck would have to look at sheet music to find that out?
fuck some people are dumb
afromman09 4 years ago
your sooo fucking stupid u answered my question with a fucking stupid statement ur were suppose to say hte counts on 4/4 and 21/16 counts
emericashoes 4 years ago
read my explanation yo!
playswithpassion 4 years ago
because i just started counting in 4/4 and it fit? durrrrrr
Pakistexican88x 4 years ago
Yeah it's 4/4.
136312 4 years ago
Strangely, it's 4/4
wilso666 3 years ago
Whos chaz
TacoMan1220 4 years ago
love this song
any1 got the lyrics yet?
frenette34 4 years ago
I never paid much attention to BTBAM but I'm really considering buying this album now that I've heard some of their new stuff.
verycoldchili 4 years ago 2
A band that's from where I live was in the same studio as them when they were recording this, and I guess the guitarist was so anal that he had to get EVERYTHING correct in recording, and actually recorded the whole song without the repeat sections. So yeah, I do believe they are some of the best musicians out there.
CARXRiedmann 4 years ago 3
BTBAM is one of my favorite bands. second only to Opeth (in my eyes dont be hatin on other peoples tastes.) In many ways BTBAM are the best musicians ive ever heard.
WillyWonkaIsSatanic 4 years ago 3
this album is one of the most technically diverse albums i've ever listened to. they incorporate things you couldn't even imagine. i mean bluegrass hoe down kinda music and jazz solos it's absolutely amazing what these guys do. paul waggoner and dusty are absolutely fantastic guitarists
brandonnickel 4 years ago
I am going to kill one person for everyday i have to wait for thsi album.
dball12fan 4 years ago
if i dont get this album my face will fall off
bighugejake 4 years ago 2
that ant song is better but it'll be a great album none the less
rarehound 4 years ago
LMAO
...Jazz.
& at the end... METAAAAAALLLL!!
Soooo buying this album.
DRockMonolith 4 years ago
lol that aint the real endinng that guy just put taht at the end XD
ZombryaTheDark 4 years ago
i like Foam Born
and even though i have it
I WILL BUY IT
i have every btb&m cd so far
and ive met them,
got to support <3
MaliceGrind 4 years ago
i sware to god if they dont make mad money of this cd cuz dickhead people ripped it off the internet. whoever ripped better fuckin buy it.
Rowburt51088 4 years ago 3
I originally had no intention of listening to this until the 18th, but my cousin downloaded it onto his ipod, the whole album. I couldn't stop him from playing it, so I heard the whole thing. I am definately still going to buy it when it comes out because it's so amazing. Just wait til you hear ants of the sky, probably their best song of all time.
brightlights000 4 years ago
Hell yea. Ants in the Sky is by far their best song in my opinion. It has EVERYTHING in it. It is the only song on the album that I listen to out of turn of all of the others songs.
RustInPeace9 4 years ago
I like "Sun of Nothing." I think that's my fav on the album.
Mordecai36 4 years ago
my friend just got colors on my computer, so i burned it...and i just want to say, this song is NOTHING (still good) but NOTHING compared to the rest of the albulm. this is a very different BTBAM album, but the thing is, unlike other bands that can actually pull off being "different"
evanbrewer1 4 years ago
yo do you think you could email me a couple of these songs. it would mean a lot, im dying to here the new stuff
pja786 4 years ago
From 3:58 on reminds me of Dream Theater... But I love both BTBAM and Dream Theater so it's cool. I can't wait for this album. I'm buying two copies to compensate for the fucks that download it.
MordecaiZ28 4 years ago
I downloaded it, but I am definitely buying this album the day it comes out. No question about it.
RustInPeace9 4 years ago
4;27 - 4:50 is simply orgasmic
MyLacesAreOut 4 years ago 2
3:16 breakdown. I love it.
TheNoumenon 4 years ago
new black dahlia murder comes out the same day if im not mistaken
joshjeff 4 years ago