WINDOWS 7 VISTA AERO vs BeOS vs LINUX UBUNTU BERYL vs MAC (1)

[foxyd3]

If you are interested in BeOS, you can try out Haiku.

[irmesia]

BeOS looks like old windows

[jackassdesorder]

Be sucks is boring

[totakeke]

The OS itself looks phenomenally innovative. I wonder what computer OSes today would look like if BeOS hadn't died out. Now I know that Microsoft kept the software world a decade behind in terms of technology and innovation.

However, this promotional video is really terrible... They may have made an awesome OS but they sure didn't know how to market it well... It's too bad...

[andreykrasnov]

BeOS was fast, very fast! i was able watch my matrix-movie only in beos, due to my slow machine ))

[TN048]

What is the song the guy plays on the computer!?!?!? also: What is the app that he uses to mess with the tracks on the song?? I do still use Legacy BeOS (R4) so I should be able to use it if I can find it.

[strikehoreges]

BeOS -> Haiku OS

[PrateekVEVO]

its relay sad that BEOS is discontinued I m feeling bad

to see that faces

search in wiki for more info

[PrateekVEVO]

its relay sad that BEOS is discontinued I m feeling bad

to see that faces

more info go

[ratchetandclankf]

1:09 w/ transcribe cc: i want to bother me

[XareSoft]

beos could change the world

[xo0r]

beos needs a comeback..

[mahmoudalgammal]

Ahh...BeOS. Good days. Still my best ever Desktop experience. It's too bad Be didn't survive.

[dellagustin]

This is soooo beutifull... much the dual/multi processor feature was incredible for its time! Wish I knew it at the time, windows 98 was a pain...

[lindsaymobil22]

get Haiku for BeOS now, its remastered :D

[hajialibaig]

In 2001 BeOS's intellectual property was sold to Palm, Inc. for some $11 million.

Nice defunk operating system though, anyway, did you guys know there are 455 linux distro's out there, for a combined market share of 1% as of August 2010?

[UncleSam13]

@hajialibaig Where do you think the Palm WebOS came from?

[mynameist04st3r]

@UncleSam13 Palm WebOS came from the Newton OS that was developed by Apple for their MessagePad which debuted in 1993 and was killed in 1997 after Steve Jobs came back to the company. They sold the whole thing to Palm who used it to develop their Palm OS until more recently coming out with WebOS which is a collaboration project between Palm and HP and uses a modern Linux kernel, probably from HP-UX, but still has a lot of the same features that were present in the original Newton.

[semco72057]

@maroon5rule I have not heard of Arch Linux before and have to check it out. I have a copy of Solaris 8 to go on a computer, and have OpenSuSE on another one I got used. It seem to work almost great, but Ubuntu is better in my opinion. I will try to get my next computer with no OS on it just to put what I want on there.

[maroon5rule]

@semco72057 Tried Opensuse and Ubuntu, but there's just a little problem with Ubuntu in my opinion, it's too easy. GNU/Linux still works best if you know what's under the hood, and if you know how to configure it manually, Canonical has spend years tweaking these configurations to suit "most" users. I still prefer to tweak everything myself, it might take some time, but in the end it's all worth it

[semco72057]

I agree that it was a good OS for graphics, but the lack of drivers for printers doomed it like many older versions of Linux. I liked it very much and still have a copy on CD, and the book which I got also.

[fadropblane]

LOL Chirstopher Walken works there? 1:15

[MrKino99]

Wow, very cool. I never heard much about BeOS before. I'll have to try out the Haiku project now.

[7halos1]

is the the be os mac

[YoutuJ3eJ3lows]

Looked awesome back then! It looked like it ran smooth and fast.

[richardsonl91]

name of the song in the beginning?

[YomorokaXD]

Be sucks if your a programmer

[navidsonpuzzle]

I fail to see any "professional" difference other than massmimicry, a logo and a price tag and some add-on functionality (arranging) that other software is better designed to do. With your skeptical attitude I'm surprised that's your opinion. What do you think makes the difference in terms of functionality? As regards arranging I haven't heard any meaningful reasons why the likes of fl studio couldn't perform the job as well as Logic or Cubase. All brands and hollow statements...

[pcfix411]

I dont know what comes to mind here but good video.

[sevalis]

Yes. BeOS was good OS.

Now it's 2010. We've got MacOSX now..

[Bobberdolf]

@sevalis

and PC hardware with Mac bios ;-)

[mannesx]

@Bobberdolf agree with you. mac is a pc with a efi bios

[geekfront]

@Bobberdolf

I fear not even THAT is by Apple. In fact it's EFI Firmware for Intel HW...

In fact, performancewise we're miles away from BeOS' 1999 status. Sadly but true. Some demos makes you really cry. Thnx M$, for killing this company, too.

[UncleSam13]

@sevalis So, we have OS X now... Not really a comparison. Give me Be any day.

[mspeter97]

@sevalis Haiku OS is the BeOS remake

[Bobberdolf]

??? Who are 'they'?

Video is just an ex. of old GOOD software and how the world is flooded with commercial BAD products with good (sleezy?) marketing ( Widowz ;-). Good inventions and products often loose the battle, mostly by bad marketing and/or naivity ;-(

The consumer pays the price in the end.... .Just make a 'new' operating system every 5 years, that forces people to buy new hardware each time and the whole industry stays happy ( Intel, Amd, Microsuck, Nvidea, Infineon etc.

[15Sparky15]

lol that comp is so ancient lol

[Bobberdolf]

but still fast in handling video and audio with a GOOD multimedia operating system ;-)

[AlexAJG094]

BeOS looked so promising...

[LTS1287]

@AlexAJG094: Just use HaikuOS, dude.

[MBP6705]

@AlexAJG094 Some people reincarnating in the form of Haiku OS. It's in it's second alpha. Google and download it. It isn't bad. It can run all BeOS software and everything!

[maroon5rule]

All windows version suck in my opinion, i use one operating system and that is linux, linux is way better in security, speed, resource handling, but people don't know linux, because windows is forced to being used, pcs sell with windows, always. You can get a dell or ibm with linux ubuntu installed these days, but "normal people" will never try it, because they just don't have brains to change from bad to good, and believe me, you don't have to be a geek to use ubuntu.

[Bobberdolf]

I still use ( micro) XP, lighting fast and of course you have to also finetune XP. I use the totally stripped MICRO XP version. ( 32 Mb memory used at idle mode and Windows folder only 220 Mb) Still everything works :-)

Tried Ubuntu, but that still lacks good Pro Audio and Video editing software. Ubuntu also feels more sluggish than my microXP (responsiveness etc.).

[maroon5rule]

Well, processors are going faster and faster, I bought my computer in July, so it's about 8 months old, it's got an I7 920 @ 2.67Ghz, 6GB of ram, and a decent graphics card (ATI HD 4650) and tbh, I don't have any difficulties yet, concerning speed, not even when using Windows. But yeah, computers can't go forever, in about 3 years I'll probably upgrade to about 16 cores (it's going fast these days). No single operating system is going be run slow on that. So it will be just taste really.

[Bobberdolf]

@maroon5rule

Use stripped ( Micro) 64 bit version of Windows 7 now. Works very well. Low mem usage in Idle mode. Very responsive and also better in other ways than Xp because it REALLY supports multicore proc. and bigger Ram :-0

[MotweraCity]

@maroon5rule for me i tried it , but the only problem that i have many windows programs i want it i'm not hating linux i love it but i still love windows too (especially windows 7 =] )

[Dms12444]

Some of the designers of BeOS decided to regroup, the new project is called Haiku OS.

BeOS may live after all ☺

Only problem is the interface looks different ;(

[AntaresBFJX]

fuck this is intense........

so old and yet so responsive.... what happened to this thing? i never had the chance to try it....

[alexandr1us]

I Loved BeOS, can't imagine why project is dead :(

[MrShoy]

There is Haiku now, an opensource alternative of BeOS since it's been bought by a company

[Sharukh007]

and its a good thing they bought NeXT too. they wouldnt have got steve jobs back. apple might not have been what it is today

[YoLninYo]

64mb of ram, 266mhz cpu .. doing video editing ... and the douchebags in my IT department complain the server is slow because it only has 8 GIG of ram... where are IT idiots coming from these days?

[tombowie83]

BeOS was brilliantly fast & usable at the time.

i remember trying the "Personal Edition" in about 2000, on my Windows95 P2-333 IBM Aptiva, and was blown away by the speed and ease-of-use.

Was tempted to buy "R5 Professional" and replace Windows, but needed Windows apps for college work.

I still have this machine "in storage", just might resurrect it to try BeOS again, see what it's like compared to XP, Vista and modern Linux distros...

The O/S which *should* have taken over the world.

[holypanl]

Ubuntu is way to unresponsive. Even vista's UI is more responsive that Ubuntu. But, since I'm a programmer, and Ubuntu has an ungodly number of tools for developers, its best for me. It works, I guess.

Haiku looks awesome, If I may say so.

[aidan160]

im using ubuntu 9.04 right now and is more responsive than my windows 7 installation on the same pc, the only difference is that my ubuntu installation uses a 7200 rpm IDE-6 drive and my windows installation uses a 7200RPM SATA2 drive, and the SATA2 transfer speed is 3 times faster than IDE-6.

[MicroHelper]

Macintosh is overly priced. Sorta worth it. They make good stuff. Their OS is too much and Ubuntu is like the excatly the same thing as it . Ubuntu could run Windows Programs. And Mac can't (They have good editing softwares in that OS). I never tried a MAC. But I will someday (IF I have money)

[eyeofthestorm67]

go to the apple store if you want to use it

[fleskebille]

But there wouldn't be a BeOS without Gassée, right? It was his vision. A multimedia OS inspired by the Amiga.

[KylBlz]

Wow this OS was way ahead of its time! Someone fund that team again, i want to see this modernized!

[i0rok0rs]

windows sucks, most unstable os ever, slow, crashes like freaking crazy... mac has close to no working programs, and atleast the old ones crashed like crazy, atleast they never get viruses (which you wont anyway if your careful and have an anti-virus...) and cost way too much for what your getting... ubunto is fast, has wine so it will work with windows programs, almost never crashes, never gets viruses, its free u just need a computer

best os: ubunto

[FrozenIceCweam]

you cant name a best os thats like naming the best (nerd) relegon or how ever its spelt any ways it deponds pictures music and videos is mac working and office and games is windows and well linux is everything else lol

[senhordovale256b]

I tested the free version of BeOS some years ago. fastest OS I had ever seen. Lack of apps, but had lots of potencial. microsoft just destroyed the hole project(and company)

[UzY3L]

Yes, stick with XP just for the games. That would be a sensible thing to do. But for speed, reliability, internet, instant messaging, media and just about anything else, stick with Haiku.

[fairyheli2]

how do you install flash on haiku?

[blaz3y09]

lol the windows move like hell WITH drivers to =D

looks ok but really unless i can play my games and make music then... im pretty much sticking with windows/unix..

[anggelkryss]

Try Haiku OS. Google it. It's the new BeOS and it's free.

[blaz3y09]

how does this compare to mac linux or windows?

[UzY3L]

Watch the video again. The BeOS does all that with the kind of hardware you would find in most phones today. Also, the videos, images and windows in the BeOS are run without any hardware acceleration. A comparison would be like when you install windows and you have no drivers for the video card. Even the windows move like hell. But in BeOS everything runs smoothly. It compares to the other OSs because it shows you don't need 4GB of RAM and a 3GHz CPU to be able to do what a PC should do.

[KhmerD0g]

i'd tried BeOS. it was good. i still have the CD. i just don't like the fact it does not have a lot of apps written for it and no driver for the newer hardware/perpher...

[fairyheli2]

mac os x is just a custom version of nextstep with an apple logo on it, i still like mac os x though, I just hate mac users who don't know much about the software

[ghostaliaz]

I feel ya Beos was the best OS ever created & it ran fast & on some of the slowest systems &on those slow systems it did 3D & any & everything else. These new OS's can not compare, not even a little bit. Beos Rules forever!

[Joe0994]

I need help i am thinking of booting my pc to ubuntu from vista but i have just seen this video with beOS which is better ? Pleasse someone help

[Werock4roll]

Every OS has something going for it.... Windows Gaming... linux its badass and open source...

unix Great for hacking.... Mac makes you think you feel cool

[oghgo]

Except it was in 1998 or so. I don't think nobody at this time was able to beat that. Beos was the E.T. and yet simple OS ever made. Even nowadays it is remarkable to watch this. These guys knew the difference between being smart and showing off.

[EliaForce1984ita]

3D Graphics at 1998?!?!?!?!

[1993gandy]

yes commador 64 had 3d graphics in 1984

[luther349]

it was a good os it was fast and pretty bug free. but by time the company released it for free in hopes of getting people to use it. it was just to late they where competing with both windows and linux. well many linux devs did release and still do release beos software its just pretty much a dead os. haiku is a attempt to bring it back and there pretty close. ubuntu walks all over it thow.

[UbuntuLee]

I've never used BeOS but it still makes me sad that they died out. They looked so innovative.... they were just too unstandard that no one wanted it. Someone needs to open the source so we can start developing on this again.

[cusbrar1]

dude... Haiku is already replicated most of what BeOS can do and is pretty compatible

[UbuntuLee]

It does not share any of the same code therefore it will never be the same.

[cusbrar1]

well fact is even if they had shared code they wouldn't a new version wouldn't be *the same* now would it

but no matter... all im saying is it is a great project im posting a video of my system with BeOS on it and will try to post acomparison of the current state of Haiku which should be a bit better than 6 months ago :-)

[tugafighter]

Interesting ideas, but very ugly user interface...

[irfan9727]

It was back in '98 and nothing changed since...

[cusbrar1]

I like the interface thank you very much and besides Haiku looks a bit spiffier now that it has gradients support in the themes

[cardosom]

Obviously the best operating system ever, those who detract it, is becouse they never tried it.

[markoresko]

Be was closed source. It failed. Period.

[capncas]

I used to use the BeOS back in college, it was so damn efficient. Those were the days. Too bad the marketing department was somewhat under funded, maybe they coulda asked jerry seinfeld for help... nah, his pricetag woulda been astronomical during the height of his show, but what if?

[Bobberdolf]

I tried MicroXP V0.82(incl. Sp3) ,works fine, LEAN & MEAN ;-) Windows folder only 200MB! Little memory and diskspace needed. And everything works very fast! ISO download only 85 Mb. Great fun!(Really possible with Widowz, would you believe it? ;-)

[nfwu]

I never knew Cinema4D was that old!

[millerhighlife06]

What a fine example of memory management on a multi-tasking environment. I'd very much like to inspect how events are handled on this fabulous system.

[DavidTheCatMedia]

I have to say I'm impressed. Looking forward to Release 1 of Haiku!

[aribenzane]

Awesome OS killed by greedy managers. This could have been OSX, but they demanded $400m for an untested OS that had NO software NO marketshare and NO standards.

I preferred it over NeXT...

[buffalosabres1972]

The Amiga 2000 I had in 1985 could do all this stuff.

[Bobberdolf]

The best in those days (80's) for video, used it a lot in the studio then. Windows wasn't even born yet :-). In 1993 Atari already had a 64 Bit computer(Jaguar)for games then (pity they had only a few(shitty?)games for it ;-( Would love to see some nice video proggie running on that :-)

[Yldii]

"The best in those days (80's) for video"

I would say the best for video in those days was far and away the Amiga. It was used by Disney animators, and all the special effects from the Babylon 5 series was done on Amiga. Not to mention that there was more software available for Amiga than any other os of its day. companies like Newtek were all about the Amiga.

[Vlad5010]

If we didn't lose Be or if Access would use it (You have the ultimate source code in your hands and you don't bother with it) ... Than I'm sure it would be the best gaming OS period. After all, it is the best OS for media like videos and songs, imagine Crysis running on the BeOS, probbaly run the best on the BeOS, seeing how Microsoft doesn't know how to make an office suit (Go GobeProductive!), let alone an entire OS (All true...).

[Vlad5010]

Have you ever used the BeOS? The BeOS is a beautiful operating system that is truly in my eyes, the only one actually built for running multimedia. No matter how many videos and music I run on it, no matter how many I resize or move around, I never lose frames on the videos or skip a beat on the MP3's. What happens when I try this on Windows? It loses frames and lags up on video one.

[Vlad5010]

BTW, the computer I'm running it on has 2006-2007 hardware, so don't even think of saying that my computer can't run Windows.

(I ran out of characters in my last response)

[adryanv]

7:20 is one example that featurewise the BeOS was ahead of its time. Imagine we just got Spaces this year in MacOS Leopard when the BeOS had that years ago.

[Vlad5010]

For some reason, other operating systems are just starting to feature things the BeOS had for years. Some operating systems like Windows seem to get worse by the year instead. Like Vista...

[jareg77]

I've ran much newer version. BeOS R5.1d0 (Dano) on my old duron 600Mhz/256MB. With some tweaking and replacing parts (kits) from Haiku. I have stable system which looks fantastic and was ROCKET FAST. I'm very impressed by plugin-like design, database-like filesystem (queries!) and beautifull simplicity of BeOS. Waintg for Haiku! Whitch, btw, I believe, will rule the world! ;)

[Vlad5010]

Dano? I've been wanting to give that one a try, but I don't know where I can get my hands on it... Haiku is making great progress and I'm eagerly awaiting it's first ISO release. Until then, it's just my BeBox with BeOS and my notebook with Zeta.

[takotheoktopus]

I love multitasking in BeOS!

[Vlad5010]

I love BeOS. I originally ran Personal Edition, then I moved over to Professional Edition. Although it is old and discontinued, it steal beats Mac and Windows. Thank you for adding this video. Also, does anyone know the song used in this video? Lol, It sounded good.

[irfan9727]

Its song included in the BeOs 5. It's called virtual (void). Google it.

[mactopolis]

This is very old OS news and it has been re-hashed so-to-speak in what is known as BeOS 5 MAX edition and the a German company put out a version called Zeta Yellow Tab(based on the free edition of BeOS 5)how this OS handles memory is amazing

[SecretTheatre]

I just got a copy of BeOS Release 3 from eBay... Can't wait to try it!

[Bobberdolf]

Get your free copy of BeOS 5 at Bebits, see the info "About This Video" (more)in the upper right corner of this page and also the 2 review links.

Hardware is probably supported only till P4 and Riva TNT videocard as I tried myself, no Geforce I think. Still funny to try it out!

[EchelonMonitor]

That worksapce feature is fantastic--wish I had soemthing like that on my windows crap.

[EchelonMonitor]

It was incredible--a full-featured graphics program was only 60KB--less than 1/1000 the size of a similar Windows program.

The IPO should have given it the funds to develop the drivers and team up with a computer manufacturer to hit the big time.

Many supporters borrowed and risked their life savings to buy the stock, only to see it crash through the floor.

How did that happen? Naked short selling--it was attacked and destroyed. The SEC could find out by who, but they won't.

[freakcoda]

Why BeOS died?

Well, I guess is because it was designed to make good use of hardware and eliminate legacy, in a time that the market demanded hardware to be sold, and legacy software to be kept.

[Walabio]

The reason BeOS failed is that MicroSoft would not licensing forbade installation of other OSes with its OS. Be would have loved to sell BeOS to OEM (Original Equipment manufactures) for 100 U$D per computer and many OEMs wanted to preinstall it, but MicroSoft would not let them.

¡The Justice-Department should have roasted MicroSoft for this anticompetitive behavior!

[Algorhythmiq]

It WOULD have been a great operating system had people known how to actually market. It was really, really well thought out. They should have gotten a footprint in the music industry first. I've never witnessed a better working OS... EVER. Again, comes down to whether you can market or not. NOT<

[mmmmna]

Makes me wonder why I never installed the free personal version... oh yeah, I went to Linux.

VERY good processing power, IMO, since WinXP64 on a 3.6 GHz Celeron can't do as well with the multiple tasks as they show in the demo.

[dhughes1969]

What year was this made? 266MHz PII, 64MB RAM, 3GB HD I'm guessing late 1990's. It's amazing, very advanced. The movie playing in the window didn't jitter at all with all the other stuff playing and considering the system it's on it's hard to believe.

[Bobberdolf]

You can still download BEos-5 for free at Bebits, see link on the right in the description. Hardware is supported only till P4 and Riva TNT videocard as I tried, no Geforce I think. Still funny to try it out!

[exigentsky]

"Both BeOS and OS X were designed to address shortcomings in Mac OS. BeOS was designed and built by a team of mostly ex-Apple engineers, and Be's CEO had been head of product development at Apple for many years. Both offered Mac-like grace coupled with a Unix shell. Both were committed to providing a great user experience. Both put the goals of media content creation and consumption high on the list of priorities." birdhouseDOTorg/macos/beos_osx­/

[awfulguitarplucker]

all the greatest computer companies (which actually are only 2: Microsoft and Apple) are destroyng the life of the common pc user with tons of informatical battles...

look at the peacefully almost commovent, gentle video showing the peaceful harmless easyness "really" user friendly of BeOs!!!

- like Doves amidst the War!!!

[Bobberdolf]

Download BeOS 5 Free Personal Edition(2001) and reviews check the links in the description next to the screen ....

[Bobberdolf]

BeOS was the most massively multi-threaded ever made. Everything ran on threads, even within the Kernel. The system libraries were designed so that no resources ever blocked and ui/worker stuff HAD to be on separate threads, which meant smooth operation no matter how many things are happening at once. Even stuff like hard drive failure or a scratched CD wouldn't block, even the applications accessing the devices. ( Thanks Chrisbord )

[b3lz3bu]

goodbay BeOS i love you :(

[thefallen0]

You cant imagine what it would look and run like to day :(

[ATiRAGEPRO]

It took them forever to demonstrate the OS. :(

[corgilabs]

check out haiku os :)

[abysmal]

Doesn't Jean-Louis Gassee remind you of Christopher Walken?

[david4d88]

I think BeOS it's the quickest OS in the world, about the boot process... bootstrap in less than 10 sec on most pc

[Dagibit]

The ONLY thing I find strange is the top window borders. It must be painful to drag a window from behind another if you can't grab the transparent area.

[Zbzzn]

Heh, I used BeOS for a number of years in the past and believe me it's much more flexible than you see there. The window tab is slidable. Hold down shift and you can slide the title tab anywhere along the top that you want. This means you can stack many windows on each other and position the tabs so that they are side by side. Easy to reach anything.

[Dagibit]

!!! That right click file-relocating is freaking awesome!

[Bobberdolf]

Hope somebody BIG (God? ;-)picks it up, Palm doesn't do anything with it on the PC market, maybe Google (instead of Linux in their new Desktop )or Sun,IBM or even Linus Torvalds ;-) I'm so fed-up with that Microsoft crap, the hardware you need just to run the OS! (And the price!Especially in Europe).

[djmindpower]

I don't think anyone will to be honest. It's rather outdated now. Apple have hired a lot of the Be programmers so many of the good ideas in BeOS have been included into OSX now.

[wurlybird9]

except, the good idea of most efficient hardware use? ;)

[Arundodonax]

So that's where Apple got the idea for "spaces" in Leopard...

[djmindpower]

Virtual desktops were being used on flavours of unix long before BeOS was born and you can already use virtual desktops on old versions of OSX with 3rd party programs. Spaces is just a really nice interface.

[Dagibit]

What's vomiting-worthy is that Windows will, like, never have them. Then again, maybe that's a good thing ;).

[treb]

I'll go and find me a PC to install Be again :)

[67comet]

I miss BeOS.... Zeta just don't cut it yet .. Great media OS, and never had anything boot as fast!