Army medics at it again...

[soapfan97]

OMG! Does that hurt, do they numb his chest first?:/

[Kooletz71]

UGH! The noise!

[docwolfe77]

It feels like your soul is being sucked out when the fluids start...

[stayAU]

I am not a medic I don't know how I got here but are all those needles on that round end you're inserting into his chest? o.O

[jdmrider]

Our idc's are better than your warrants, pa's, warrants cause they do all the stuff they do as an e-6, also 18 delta. It's sad when every deployment I go to and every medic I meet always says that corpsmen know more and can do more than them anD often ask us for help especially with sick call.

[jdmrider]

Also our boot corpsman can perform more duties then ur e5 how f'n copy

[jdmrider]

First off ur punk ass army medics don't rate the name doc...second that's y when we were in Afghanistan a army "medic" ran away when the convoy got hit and a doc a navy corpsman took care of the army.....last time I checked navy corpsman carry 22 medal of honor recipients....u trackin soldier.

[xgetsmokedx]

God I hated doing fast, IO's

[ItsJapanese]

bottom line is experience makes or breaks anyone. I went to fort sam, it was good, but only taught the basics. As a civilian medic.. its the same way, you can go to school for two years and get the basics and do the job, but only experience makes a good medic.

[sgtzoblisien]

I spent 4 years in the corps and then went to the army. duringour breifing to deploy to Iraq, our medic Spc Peterson said its not his job to get the wounded during battles, but he would get them as the line moved. Me being used to the Corpmen who would do anything for a comrad. told this would be medic, in front of our Co;. and Sgtmajor, if he didnt get any of my guys when they are hit, I would shoot him myself. Hats off to the navy corpsman

[gearhead91686]

wow thats why army medics cant practice once they get out unless they go through "proper training"

[TheTechnoMedic]

a medics training no matter what branch he/she is in all depends on that particular person. if they want to advance and be a bad ass (like me) then they seek out schools like: oems, w-1, w-4, ALS 18DCOURSES they also pick the brains of their pa's and surgeons for additional trng and they do their own research and practice. plain and simple. dont blame your inadequacies on a branch, its your very own laziness pog!

[TheTechnoMedic]

lol!



[moonslayer921]

Oh HELL that noise is aweful! itsd the worst part!

[screamineagles91]

thats hurts like a motherfucker..it hurts even more once they start pumping in fluids! ive had 2 for training purposes

[Eagle249]

How bad does one of them hurt?

[goblue818]

funkervogt1, you said it best.

[spike003400]

perhaps aligning the FAST-1 a little more perpindicular, and it would have went in the first time.

[funkervogt1]

however we all serve the same purpose...saving lifes and preserving quality of life.

[funkervogt1]

that debate will never be answered fully..ive done both being a civilian EMT and having just served 7 yrs in the active component as a medic. both are entirely separate jobs. very rarely do army medics (et. al) come across a geriatric patient with multi-system failure or a special needs child in respiratory distress. the disparity in the patients each sees is much too much to compare.

[710cav]

that guys a fucking trooper..

[FireFighterrock24]

ok do MP's have 2 go through this in their AIT?

[breakinbenjaminlover]

does it hurt - it looks like it would alot????? =]

[tictacluvsff5]

Holy cow that looks like it would hurt...but he's Army, so he can take it.

[unconcealed]

Just thought id say this. My recruiter told me that Medics from the Navy and Air Force use the Armys Medical base stationed in Texas where they train soldiers to become medics. It is said that the base has become the best and now all the branches are trying to use that one base because it is so good. I Believe him. He has no reason to lie.

[DocChopstix]

The last time I check it gonna be a Navy Corpsman Instructor. When I was in school we had Air Force and Army medics checking our school out in Great Lakes.

[DocChopstix]

Oh yeah Unconcealed dont forget their recruiter they do lie LOL

[jdmrider]

and lets not forget all the F'n IA deployments that NAVY CORPSMAN have to go on because army medics dont know what the hell there doing and last but not least i believe the combat medic of the year in 2008 was a HOSPITAL CORPSMAN(FMF) so how about you army medics get on our level before you put gay comments about how bad and crazy you are..

-HM3 FERRER

[samuri474sam]

Fixed the description just for you chief, thanks for having the bigger dick, us lowly army medics need all the help we can get, not too good at reading and writing or our job for that matter, anchors aweigh!

[littleMChammered]

where you get your medic training doesnt matter one bit..navy corpsman, or army medic...they are all going to learn the exact same thing. What makes a good medic is practice and real life experience. I know some civilian EMT's that are better than any corpsman or army medic jsut because they go on 10-20 ALS calls a day. Its all about real touches.Not what branch of service you went to.

[jdmrider]

dont get me wrong i have respect for EMT-Ps even EMT-I, but last time i checked they dont do there job in the middle of the dessert in blazing heat with a 45lbs MTV flak plus extra gear insuring that the scene is safe before being able to rush to the patient into the back of an LAV or humvee etc. rolling down rough terrain or having to CASEVAC OR MEDIVAC the Patient out. so a EMT being better than a navy corpsman or a army medic not gonna happen. sorry no disrespect though.

[littleMChammered]

its all relative. In your last post you made it sound more about skill level, not how much weight you can carry, the heat you work in, or the danger you are in. When the situation arises your training kicks in and thats that. All im trying to say is that the training is basically the same, a good medic is just how much experience you have.

[littleMChammered]

I dont mean any disrespect either man. Im an EMT and an army medic and the training was pretty similar. When i almost broke my neck on a mountain biking trail the EMT's hiked 3 miled up to get me and hiked back down an Expert terrain mountain biking trail hauling me out and then Medflighted me out on a Helo. In the city my brother works in they have to wear vests because the gangs shoot at the ambulance. See what i mean its all about experience? Not who trains you

[SquidUSN]

@jdmrider You're right. Despite my name, I am an Army medic. We don't know shit. In fact we suck. But having grown up around the Navy, I have also learned that Corpsman are not any better. And besides that, your conduct is completely unprofessional and unbecoming of a FMF Corpsman, and being that my best friend is an FMF Corpsman, he would be appauled by your actions and words.

[ShiddyPB]

@SquidUSN Speak for your self guy. When i comes down to a Trauma medic, no matter what kind of training you have common sense is the only thing that will make you the better medic. Its the same thing with Paramedics on the civilian side, you pass a 70 question test and all of the sudden you are thrown with the responsibility of some ones life in your hand. Army Navy and Air Force of there fair share of shit medics.

[jdmrider]

@SquidUSN if your friend is an FMF corpsman with infantry he wouldnt mind....there are also corpsman who are FMF qualified who are fobbits and dont see shit...

[TheTechnoMedic]

@jdmrider (garden tool) quiet down, no one cares about "chesty's" logistic capabilities. look up desmond doss. most corpsman compare themselves to regular medics. corpsman obviously have more trng, how bout comparing them to a w-1 or w-4? those 2 types of docs would rape your corpsman.

[jdmrider]

i wasnt going to say anything but, i saw your little comment about how army medics are the craziest and best out there.. if i recall correctly Lieutenant General Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller said it best when he said theres not better in the business than a navy corpsman...

[samuri474sam]

No you won't have to do this during training, you will actually go to Ft Sam Houston where you'll get just enough information so you think you're smart but your ignorance could result in someone dying, don't stop learning...

[Eagle249]

i'm joining next year and want to be a medic. will i have to do this during trainning

[tschnitker]

The sternum IO is used in the Army because your patient may not have a leg to drill into.

[canadianboy40]

The Sternal IO is used because theres less chance of infection and the ability to infuse more fluids closer to the heart, over a peripheral IO, and its not just the army that uses them, EMS services do aswell.

[sh4dyp]

..That popping sound, is that his sternum breaking?

[chrossmark]

lol its the sound of the needle going into the sternum

[canadianboy40]

Its the needle penetrating the sternum...

[wesxpresswmb]

WOW Vsyde I remember that day!!! OEMS

SSG B

[kotetsu131]

hmmmm, isn't IO easier? that look like a pain in the ass. You guys don't have it?

[68W2M072]

fast 1 is IO... and is really easy.

[kotetsu131]

Oh, so this is manual IO then. I believe there is something called EZ-IO where you basically have a little drill and drill the needle into the sternum or other place...pretty cool.

[68W2M072]

true, but the ez io is a little bulkier, and actually takes more time. It is also intended for the long bones, not the sternum (though it will work there). Sternal access is best in the field because you go through less soft tissue, you patient is mobile, and the landmark is army proof.

[SkersFan33]

ha i'm a AF medic and in the military people volunteer for training all the time......but ef volunteering for this one! good job man

[smrtstmanalive69]

HAHA I'm the patient I didn't even realize someone put this up!

[beatlesfanJGPR]

actually that doesn't hurt very much, you mostly feel the pressure of inserting the needles. Can't wait to do on! MEDICS ARE TOTALLY BAD ASS.

[vorlonken]

That looked unbelievably painful! Why didn't the poor bastard that had to take it show any pain?

[kevinthegenius]

uhhhh.......................

[thesuperjman]

yeah, i cringed thinking of the pain. kudos to the guy recieving the shot for not freaking out.

what is that type of shot for?

[ambientfrustration]

not a shot. it's an IV directly into your sternum.

think "needle into bone."

[qystein]

Im a norwegian mdic, and I just have to ask when you have to have IV directly into your sternum?

Probably something the doctors does in the norwegian army, since I havent heard of it

[ambientfrustration]

From what I know, It's used because unlike a peripheral IV, it's rock solid stable. You can move your patient with less risk. (IE: Drag a guy through a battlefield to the hospital...)

[UptonEMT]

I think it's also for faster infusion of a large amount of drugs. Like if you had to rapidly push a large volume of medicine into a patient, the IO is the way to go.

[sirinferno]

whislt both of the above points are true, it's main use is where you dont' want to be mucking around looking for a vein. if the victim has gone into shock, the veins will be hard to see, so if you want to save time, you do an io

[jordanamed]

Certainly easier than doing a venous cutdown to get vascular access... If the "volunteer" had socked his buddy in the face after the procedure was complete, he would have been completely justified.

[camnCoppens]

what is that?

[Dash801]

Sternal IO

[avatar098]

OUCH OMGOSH