Touch Screen meets Desktop - the snom 870

[allengoodge]

I am currently using Voip plan from vontrump.com on my nokia set and its great!

[landiscomputer]

@memyselfandi83 On being able to plug a full sized keyboard into the unit: rarely do you need to type numbers on the phone. Typically your phone book will be automatically provisioned from the PBX. (using the free snom ONE Win/Mac/Linux pbx). If you are using a pbx that can't do that you can easily log into the phone webui and setup your contact list.

I think deskphones might want to consider the track mobile phones are taking: auto sync with gmail/ live/ exchange contact address books.

[feastures]

I get the impression that the touch display being above the key pad, and in general being at the top of the device, will make it not so comfortable to use. Reason is that the the hand can not rest anywhere comfortable or easily hold the device, in order to supply a reference for hand/finger movement. The full hand with finger has to be moved/directed through the air. This kind of motion is much less precise or costs much more effort to make precise and fast. Place the touch display below!

[snomvoip]

@feastures snom870 is a high-end business phone that has a full featured telephone keypad in addition to its high resolution touch screen display. Instead of just offering its discerning customers a touch only device like some contemporary cellular phones, snom870 attends to the basic business telephony needs of the users first and foremost. The numeric keypad and the function keys are ergonomically designed to be easily accessed by one hand resting gently on the desktop.

[snomvoip]

@feastures This allows for quick movement to the next key the user intends to press; really convenient when the user wants to control standard call features e.g. mute, call on hold, etc. The touch screen sits on top of the standard keypad to give as much information and offer advanced features like drag and drop transfer, conferencing to the user. If the hand is resting on the desktop, it is comparatively hard to move the fingers around especially to drag and drop without wrist movement...

[snomvoip]

@feastures If snom were to ever develop a telephone model without numeric keypad, it’s more likely than not that the display would be placed in a central location to offer an on screen keyboard and giving the user a better option to dial digits.

[oztabletpc]

@feastures Having the touch display below the keyboard would probably create issues of accidental input. As the touch screen is not the primary input device (keypad is) it would be unlikely to cause ergonomic issues as is. I think it is a very interesting and and well designed device.

[drivememad]

Too bad it's not a video phone!

[evald80]

Beatiful, superb but not cheap!

More than 300 euro for this VOIP phone!

[GraysonPeddie]

Sleeeeeek! :)

I wish I have the money for it so that I can use it with Asterisk+FreePBX! :)

[olymbec]

Great system. I just ordered one for my home system. Like the fact I can see the from door camera from any phone in the house.

[sbcompleteit]

Does it not make sense to add Bluetooth to the handsets?  Would it not make getting headsets easier and all the user more flexibility in buying headsets?

[sbcompleteit]

AVAYA and Cisco 'SIP' phones are cr@p! I'm running sipX 4.0.2 and getting ready to deloy snom 300, 320, 360, 370, and m3 phones. Anything I should look for during my install?

[snomvoip]

@annefrancegoldwater:

_PP-Ratio: the snom 870 compared to Cisco 7975g is approx 20% cheaper. Have a closer look at the features, the snom 870 offers many more.

_SIP: our snom SIP-Stack is considered as one of the most mature in the market. This allows snom phones a much higher interoperability with a richer featureset compared to other SIP phones at SIP IPPBXs. Try to connect an AVAYA or Cisco SIP phone to an Asterisk-pbx! You have just a fraction of the supported features.

[snomvoip]

@annefrancegoldwater: We believe in Open Standards and SIP! Open Standars VoIP solutions based on SIP with endpoints from snom are much more affordable than propietary solutions.

[annefrancegoldwater]

So, who is NOT using open standards? The Cisco is a SIP phone...

[snomvoip]

Cisco is using SIP only with a separately license. It´s not out of the box an sip phone. If you buy it without the sip licence it only would work with the call manager

[kermitthefragger]

@annefrancegoldwater If you think Cisco is compatible with open standards just take one of their 'SIP' phones and hook it up to lets say Asterisk. Basic call functionality will probably work. But when you try something more 'advanced' like hints you will bump into issues. When you examine those issues you will probably come to the conclusion that the phone doesn't adhere to the SIP specification.

Now try opening a case in Cisco TAC and see how fast it gets closed with won't fix....

[snomvoip]

@annefrancegoldwater: by a much better price-performance ratio of the snom 870 in comparison to your mentioned Avaya and Nortel phones.

[annefrancegoldwater]

why? the hardware prices are pretty comparable. Nortel is annoying because of the bankruptcy, so it may be abandoned, but the Avaya is cute, and they acquired Nortel. The Cisco 7975g looks reliable, although its screen is only 16 bit colour. Clarify, please.

[annefrancegoldwater]

Having to enter contacts via a numeric keypad (like on a cellphone) is ridiculous for such a high end phone.

How does this phone compare with the Avaya 9670G or the Nortel i2007 VoIP phones??

[snomvoip]

@flowerpt: it is our own snom SIP stack

[flowerpt]

nice, what's the software stack on this?

[memyselfandi83]

also a pull out qwerty key board , its 2009 baby.

[sbcompleteit]

And how much more do you want to pay for a full QWERTY keyboard on a handset?! Also, WHERE should it go? Do you want the phone to be the size of a laptop????

[memyselfandi83]

cordless with a seperate touch screen unit would be more relevent in the workplace , or a wireless headset even .

[snomvoip]

Thanks for your comment, Krakn3Dfx! We are constantly enhancing our Firmware for increased performance in collaboration with existing carriers and partners, irrespective whether its the 3xx or 8xx series. We regret you having experienced some sort of inconvenience with our products, but we have the general feedback of users satisfaction with the price-performance ratio of our products. We take all point of views on board to improve effectiveness of our products and thus also welcome criticism.

[Krakn3Dfx]

I dunno, maybe you could work on fixing the problems with the 3xx series Snoms we have instead of pushing out a new crop of buggy, overpriced models?

[priyanhere]

4XX$

[gipakozold]

how much for the fish?

[BymachtSG]

Great Phone. Great Design. Must Have!