I read the comments and they said it was funnier without the beginning-- so I skipped it and didn't understand... I watched it again the whole way through and now I get it.
Great joke... very funny.. Especially after I just got thru watching Ken Wilber and I was thinking about some super deep complex things it was great to have a very light-hearted moment!! Excellent! Thanks!
When I heard this joke in grad school in the 1990s, I thought it was funny enough that I have been telling it in my classes for nearly 20 years! Thanks for sharing it with people who are not in "Intro to Phil" classes.
THis is not a good philosophy joke. One is supposed to infer "I think not therefore I am not", This is the contranegative form of the original implication, and does not follow from it!!!
yeah, i concur, the nature of humour is that it skews and switcheroos logic in a startling way, our sudden realization of the switch is what makes a joke funny. the problem with this joke is that there isn't a pariticularily startling switch.
that said, bad material can often be salvaged by good delivery. oh dear.
yes, that is formally valid (modus tollens), but that's not the wording of the quote and joke...
However, that raises an interesting question: is premise 1 true? Or could "I" exist without thinking? The very word "I" seems to imply self-reflection (thus thought). What if, though, it were re-worded as "if luke exists, then luke must think"? It seems not necessarily, in that case, since we cannot know with Cartesian certainty. You could exist without thinking, but neither of us would know it.
LOL, I liked that one. There is a similar one about Descartes on a plane but I don't remember it... I was drinking at the time I was told this so... LOL.
I, has nothing to do with consiness, there for he who says "I think therfore I am" can not become what one can think by just thinking about it. In as much becomeing.
No, Descartes would not disappear, because saying "I think not" is an act of thought. That is, to have thought of any kind (which includes to think, "I think not") is to exist.
Yeah, my ethics professor told this same joke. It would be better if you didn't start off with, "The Philosopher who said, 'I think therefore I am,'" because it kills the timing of the joke. Instead, assume we know who Descartes was, and his most famous quote, and the rest will simply have to be left out.
I've found it misses people no matter what. I've tried it on every one from chefs in a restraunt to groups of university students. Almost no one ever gets it at all. So I think the reminder of who descartes was helps in a few cases. If anything can help this joke.
I should have qualified my statement: no philosopher that i know of has ever made art or poetry or music that was beyond i) a mere reduction of morality or politics; ii) a pathetic inflation of feelings or ego; iii) an imitation of another greater artist. And you are a philosopher, but i totally understand your attempt to evade the title a history of thinkers has ruined. Lets return to the original notion of being a philosopher, mr. cropperb.
Maybe there has never been a joke in philosophy because philosophy is the joke itself? Maybe we're all the butt's of the joke begun by Socrates? Imagine, the most elaborate joke ever told.
The reason philosophers cannot tell jokes is that THEY ARE TOO SELF CONSCIOUS! this is also why they can't write poetry (plato, nietzsche), can't write music (nietzsche) and can't cook (foucault). except Cropperb, who i think is funny in an off-handed way.
No, I got it from a proffessor in a class on Existentialism. No one got it but me and my younger brother who was taking the class concurrently. So you didn't like it, huh? Um, did you get it? (no offense)
Yes, I got it. But technically, Descartes didn't mean "I think, which causes me to be," he meant "I think, therefore *I know that* I am." He said that he witnessed thought occuring, and since there could be no thought without a thinker, he knew he had to exist.
I can't believe I'm about to say this - its just a joke; you can't analyze it THAT deeply!
(Funny, because the only people who might have a chance at getting the joke are people who analyze things too deeply all the time. Thus the conundrum of the oxy-moron: philosophy joke.)
Yes, philosophers generally prefer humour to jokes (Plato, Nietzsche even Kant had a refined sense of humour) with some exceptions (eg Russell's chicken joke in Probs of Philosophy p.35). I like the joke about the two behaviourists after making love. One says to the other "that was great for you; how was it for me?"
That joke is hysterical. But you tell jokes like me. Awful
MISTERASMODEUS 1 week ago
"I think therefore I am" does not imply "I do not think, therefore I am not." Denying the antecedent :)
berettaNZ 2 months ago
...That took two takes?
InflatableAnchor 2 months ago
What the fuck did I just watch.
ja524309 3 months ago
Here's a joke for you: objectivism.
HAA!
fiesta181 4 months ago 6
Cropper ruined it. All I can think when I see his face is the deplorable Ayn Rand.
alifeofreason 4 months ago
descartes walks into a bar..the bartender asks..why the long face...oh wait..that a different joke isn't it??
tenseman08 5 months ago
is it cuz he french and dont know grammar?
Ramsez 5 months ago
I liked this one! :D
BrynLFilms 6 months ago
This joke is so horrible that it actually works.
ThcPatient 6 months ago
You obviously have never had sex.
JonathanMorgan2 7 months ago 3
Like this if you thought the punchline was going to be "I drink therefore I am!"
BIGGrobb 7 months ago 6
I bet the waiter was Aristotle lol
MrFlyingeclipse 9 months ago
a much better ending would be -- descartes answers, "I don't think so..." then disappears"
proghou123 9 months ago
Dumbass walks into a bar. OUCH!
bigmike4758 9 months ago
Time is just what happens so everything doesn't happen all at once.
"Life must be lived forward but can only be learned backward"~Kirkegard~
When were you given the marvel of "time"?
Bertrand Russell thought there was no logically necessary connection between what is happening "now" and what will happen 5 minutes from now.
I think...therefore I am...thinking....now...and I don't know ...why I am thinking....now.
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
First the bartender would have to prove to him that he infact did finish the beer, and that the bartender infact existed, and infact that beer is.
Kan2209 10 months ago
I wish you hadn't clarified who Descartes was in the beginning! That's like explaining the joke!!
CWSoxfan719 10 months ago 3
lol
blabbitymouf 11 months ago
hahaha. I love your videos. As a philosophy major, I appreciate this sort of thing, and they're freaking great.
horrorjunkie137 11 months ago
You were hot until you started laughing.
AntSuck 1 year ago
@AntSuck of course that is a fallacy, from I think therefore I am you cannot derived I dont think there I am not. Thus the joke fails.
Elexadora 11 months ago
I read the comments and they said it was funnier without the beginning-- so I skipped it and didn't understand... I watched it again the whole way through and now I get it.
He doesn't think therefore he is not :D
flyingbyson1 1 year ago
.. I dont get it.
BodilogBentesBlogDK 1 year ago
@BodilogBentesBlogDK He does not think, therefore he is not.
I know, its corny as hell.
Slapbass13 11 months ago
Ops!
jjhjjff 1 year ago
I keep accidentally coming to different video's of yours with just random things I've googled! Haha...time to sub I guess.
laurarox01 1 year ago
Flauw.
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
Great joke... very funny.. Especially after I just got thru watching Ken Wilber and I was thinking about some super deep complex things it was great to have a very light-hearted moment!! Excellent! Thanks!
dalesalsa 1 year ago
When one is recording themselves on video one should preveiw said video before posting it to the internet and take a second chance if needed. (hint)
dsdougharty 1 year ago
damn. talk about not thinking. i just ate the damn silica gel packet from my bag of beef jerky. wonder if i'll get dehydrated now......
wanderer1031 1 year ago
it's supposed to be "I drink, therefore I AM!"!
empemitheos 1 year ago
You can't tell a joke for shit. Funny or not, give up on the stand up, you look like a turd up there.
AceLockCo 1 year ago
the problem with this joke is that in thinking 'not' he is still thinking and still IS.
MoonlitFang9812 1 year ago 3
''I think - not''
(Descartes: ''I think - so i am'')
Hahahahaha funny one :DD
MyMomentai 1 year ago
lol ... cheap bastard
mintoo2cool 1 year ago
When I heard this joke in grad school in the 1990s, I thought it was funny enough that I have been telling it in my classes for nearly 20 years! Thanks for sharing it with people who are not in "Intro to Phil" classes.
Cindy572908 1 year ago
worst. joke. ever...
Zidonius 1 year ago
retarded
redassbq 1 year ago
lol...thats wat i call a sarree....
eacans 1 year ago
A crap joke told badly!!!!!!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
amerikant
HailRasec 1 year ago
-_____- womp
123curlyqjona 2 years ago
A Buddhist goes up to a hot dog vendor and says, "Make me one with everything."
The Buddhist pays him, gets his hotdog, but doesn't get any change. He says to the hotdog vendor, "What about my change?"
The hotdog vendor replies, "Change comes from within."
prodprod 2 years ago 64
@prodprod JAJAJA Awesome joke! I love it!
dalesalsa 1 year ago
This guy really needs to work on his delivery...
velcroboy60000 2 years ago
it would have been better if he said - 'no sorry, I kant'.
smokinbill 2 years ago 77
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That was funnier than this video!
velcroboy60000 2 years ago
THis is not a good philosophy joke. One is supposed to infer "I think not therefore I am not", This is the contranegative form of the original implication, and does not follow from it!!!
pugay69 2 years ago
yeah, i concur, the nature of humour is that it skews and switcheroos logic in a startling way, our sudden realization of the switch is what makes a joke funny. the problem with this joke is that there isn't a pariticularily startling switch.
that said, bad material can often be salvaged by good delivery. oh dear.
scudder91 2 years ago
yes, it follows from it. what doesn't follow from it is "i am not, therefore i think not"
bulletforthetrooper 2 years ago
That means it's not good philosophy. By definition a joke mocks its subject.
Hoobtastic 2 years ago
You just didn't get it.
KajiCarson 2 years ago
it took me two seconds, but i got it. good one.
fede2 2 years ago
i did not understand the joke???
punkvijay224 2 years ago
If he doesn't think, he doesn't exist.
KajiCarson 2 years ago
meh. I was hoping it would be "I drink therefore I am".
nonantianarchist 2 years ago 5
@nonantianarchist
Like the python sketch
gilbertgodlyddd 2 years ago
Thank you. I got it and now feel proud.
Doc Hallenstein
DocHallenstein 2 years ago
Thanks for the chuckle!
bronxling 2 years ago
funny. :)
parakeethands 2 years ago
Well now, this video's been up for about two years now, so I can bet that you're probably already used to be widely hated for telling this joke.
I applaud your courage and am tempted to subscribe, but I gotta think about it some more.
StLennyBruce 2 years ago
This joke commits a logical fallacy.
If I think, therefore I am
I don't think
Therefore I am not.
[Affirming the antecedent.]
mattymattsax 2 years ago
If i exist, then i must think.
I think not...
I do not exist.
luke00jordan 2 years ago 3
yes, that is formally valid (modus tollens), but that's not the wording of the quote and joke...
However, that raises an interesting question: is premise 1 true? Or could "I" exist without thinking? The very word "I" seems to imply self-reflection (thus thought). What if, though, it were re-worded as "if luke exists, then luke must think"? It seems not necessarily, in that case, since we cannot know with Cartesian certainty. You could exist without thinking, but neither of us would know it.
gmac331 2 years ago
it is fallacious, but it's actually denying the antecedent.
gmac331 2 years ago
¬¬ have you ever read Nietzsche?? you all would note why logicals and analiticals have no sense of humor...
elnietzscheano 2 years ago
Bahh!
12caredee21 2 years ago
LOL, I liked that one. There is a similar one about Descartes on a plane but I don't remember it... I was drinking at the time I was told this so... LOL.
JimMorrisonsWidow 2 years ago
...that was terrible
Familiar7 2 years ago
Booooooooooooooo....
Jagasaurus 2 years ago
Eh, I've heard that joke before.
Now if he told the one about the transcendental ideality of our phenomenal representations, *that* would've had me rolling on the floor!
NephandiMan 2 years ago
I, has nothing to do with consiness, there for he who says "I think therfore I am" can not become what one can think by just thinking about it. In as much becomeing.
Hack2much 3 years ago
Yeppah !
I'm not !!!
HAHAHA
HAHA
HA
more
PierreLucSex 3 years ago
nerd
courtabeth 3 years ago
Hilarious!
shiftnd 3 years ago
Huh, a lot of people over analysing a joke.
And people tell me to get a life.
bobomcgraw 3 years ago
Get a life, you're analysing people analysing an intermpetation of a bad joke. Oh shit, and I'm analysing you. We're all doomed!
Robikus 3 years ago 4
It's like dividing by zero.
bobomcgraw 3 years ago
omg it's paradox! we are all dead!
BazzTheBoss 2 years ago
No, Descartes would not disappear, because saying "I think not" is an act of thought. That is, to have thought of any kind (which includes to think, "I think not") is to exist.
blaze991 3 years ago
this is a british joke :P
ktxed 3 years ago
o rly? one of my teachers told it to me and he tought in england for a while
zarath00stra 3 years ago
Awesome joke
snoopyflick 3 years ago 2
sad attempt..
valgissn 3 years ago
Uhh, are you guys looking for "Cogito ergo sum"?
todd9271990 3 years ago
lol. nice.
Pieniadzo 3 years ago
It's only hapless austerity of english language.
virvalens 3 years ago
bibo ergo sum
is
I drink therefore I am
freestyleminibus 3 years ago 2
This is a great illustration of the fallacy of denying the antecedent.
You shouldn't try to use basic logical concepts to your advantage unless you thoroughly understand them.
lbrainard10 3 years ago
Bibo ergo sum.
Or
I am, therefore I think.
ourearthhome 3 years ago
lawlz...
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Etimespace 3 years ago
Hilarious! Teach us more Etimespace!
curien1000 3 years ago
onesimpleprinciple com and you know about lot of more what you know now!
Etimespace 3 years ago
rofl
curien1000 3 years ago
Who was a poof? - I don't get it!
Cheers.
from,
del-boy.
delboyski 3 years ago
Yeah, my ethics professor told this same joke. It would be better if you didn't start off with, "The Philosopher who said, 'I think therefore I am,'" because it kills the timing of the joke. Instead, assume we know who Descartes was, and his most famous quote, and the rest will simply have to be left out.
kulcid254 3 years ago 3
ウフフフフフフフ!
BenedictKenny 4 years ago
Incredibly stupid 'joke'.
Can you share some jokes about god, I mean, Rand ?
verymaddog 4 years ago
unghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
jeanpaulsartre7 4 years ago
its not haha funny
0BALLINN0 4 years ago
Yes, it is!
Cheers.
from,
del-boy.
delboyski 3 years ago
The joke is funnier without explaining it first.
blackacidlizzard 4 years ago
I've found it misses people no matter what. I've tried it on every one from chefs in a restraunt to groups of university students. Almost no one ever gets it at all. So I think the reminder of who descartes was helps in a few cases. If anything can help this joke.
cropperb 4 years ago
I first heard it without the explanation, I thought it was funny - this probably goes more to my own oddity than to the value of the joke, I guess.
blackacidlizzard 4 years ago
Very possibly. I'm so odd that I like the joke, so its possible!
cropperb 4 years ago
I agree, the joke would have been funnier had Cropper not explained the joke first.
snuffydoug 4 years ago
I should have qualified my statement: no philosopher that i know of has ever made art or poetry or music that was beyond i) a mere reduction of morality or politics; ii) a pathetic inflation of feelings or ego; iii) an imitation of another greater artist. And you are a philosopher, but i totally understand your attempt to evade the title a history of thinkers has ruined. Lets return to the original notion of being a philosopher, mr. cropperb.
willey1984 4 years ago
Sign me up and call me a philosopher!
cropperb 4 years ago
Maybe there has never been a joke in philosophy because philosophy is the joke itself? Maybe we're all the butt's of the joke begun by Socrates? Imagine, the most elaborate joke ever told.
The reason philosophers cannot tell jokes is that THEY ARE TOO SELF CONSCIOUS! this is also why they can't write poetry (plato, nietzsche), can't write music (nietzsche) and can't cook (foucault). except Cropperb, who i think is funny in an off-handed way.
willey1984 4 years ago
I write poetry. But, then, I'm not necessarily a philosopher, just an intelectual.
cropperb 4 years ago
Yikes. That was pretty bad. Did you get that from the new book, "Plato and a Platypus Walk into a Bar"?
nine9s 4 years ago
No, I got it from a proffessor in a class on Existentialism. No one got it but me and my younger brother who was taking the class concurrently. So you didn't like it, huh? Um, did you get it? (no offense)
cropperb 4 years ago
Yes, I got it. But technically, Descartes didn't mean "I think, which causes me to be," he meant "I think, therefore *I know that* I am." He said that he witnessed thought occuring, and since there could be no thought without a thinker, he knew he had to exist.
nine9s 4 years ago
Dang, that just proves that I have no sense of humor, doesn't it? ;)
nine9s 4 years ago 4
I can't believe I'm about to say this - its just a joke; you can't analyze it THAT deeply!
(Funny, because the only people who might have a chance at getting the joke are people who analyze things too deeply all the time. Thus the conundrum of the oxy-moron: philosophy joke.)
cropperb 4 years ago 4
well said
gmac331 2 years ago
That just proves what is known amongst philosophers: THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A FUNNY PHILOSOPHY JOKE. EVER!
willey1984 4 years ago
Yes, philosophers generally prefer humour to jokes (Plato, Nietzsche even Kant had a refined sense of humour) with some exceptions (eg Russell's chicken joke in Probs of Philosophy p.35). I like the joke about the two behaviourists after making love. One says to the other "that was great for you; how was it for me?"
parispeter2 4 years ago
I love that joke. Debunks behaviorism in two sentences.
nine9s 4 years ago