et si il ne s'agissait pas de se mettre en conformité avec la conscience? Agir en accord majeur... au lieu de dire qu'il faut changer de conscience...JjS
Anglophones: I did this translation myself with my knowledge of French and a little help. I tried my best to translate complex and metaphorical ideas. Hope it makes sense to you. Cheers.
And this is key: Its not about what we think, not about what we feel, not about what we like, not about our ideas, not about religiosity. Its nothing of the sort. Its something rather which is poignant, as if everyone gathered in anxiety for an intense prayer. Or its like love, its warm, powerful.
Everything became insignificant, non-existent, even myself. All ideas, all nobility became insignificant, there was nothing, you understand? There was no politics, no religion, nothing to cling onto. So what do we have when there is nothing? What remains? There is a centre of force. Perhaps there is something that remains.
Nevertheless, I can only talk from my own experience, isnt it? A man cannot come into being or live until he can achieve a true and total nothingness of what he is, of what he thinks, of what he believes, of what he likes. When one arrives at this complete nothingness it is that something exists or dies, is it not? I have realized this during long sessions of concentration/meditation, there is a nothingness.
It is necessary that we reach a stage where the consciousness turns in a different direction, is it not? This is the case. Its an evolutionary crisis. Were in a moment in time where we must learn to breathe, where something has to give, or else, suffocate. Thats whats happening.
Were not in a moral crisis or political crisis, nor financial, nor religious. Theres none of that. Were in an evolutionary crisis, where humanity is in the process of dying so that it can be revived as something else. So, everything is disintegrating everywhere. Everything is horrible everywhere, even in the splendid American cities where its comfortable- its the same barbarism everywhere.
Satprem: We are entering a state of not only hell of a psychological nature as Rimbault describes, but a physical hell now. At the moment, one is in the process of destroying the earth, is it not? There is barbarism everywhere in one form or another. It becomes very suffocating, because it seems necessary for mankind to face a terrifying physical reality in order to change its consciousness. Thats what the situation is.
David: We started from this quote of Rimbault: Were in a season of hell. He describes the hell that were in the process of living with this paved fate; that there is hell all around us. He says however that this is a kind of an awakening that brings an ardent patience.
vidéo à faire regarder au plus grand nombre en ces temps de "crise" pour que le plus grand nombre ouvre les yeux Satprem est convaincant c est si lucide..
En 1985 j'ai entendu cet extrait dans le grand échiquier de Michel Jonasz (Partie 1 de 3'35'' à la fin et la seconde partie). Beaucoup, beaucoup d'émotions à réentendre ce document, essentiel ô combien !!! Merci.
Tant d'émotions à réentendre ces passages si importants de Satprem ! Je me souviens l'avoir entendu la première fois lors d'un grand échiquier consacré à Michel Jonaz en 1985 (de 3'35'' à la fin) et cette rencontre a été déterminante pour ma vie. Merci infiniment.
Il se dégage de Satprem une paix, une présence, un "silence", un amour qui ont le pouvoir de nous connecter à ces états ... du moins momentanément ...
superbe vidéo où toutes les questions arrivent et se culbutent pour laisser entrevoir notre moi profond, notre temple intérieur indestructible, qui ne vit pas d'apparence mais de réalité, le lien direct avec l'Univers
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SuperKapka 1 month ago
et si il ne s'agissait pas de se mettre en conformité avec la conscience? Agir en accord majeur... au lieu de dire qu'il faut changer de conscience...JjS
flutarte 2 years ago
Anglophones: I did this translation myself with my knowledge of French and a little help. I tried my best to translate complex and metaphorical ideas. Hope it makes sense to you. Cheers.
wintercherry100 2 years ago 2
This is the question that one arrives at: When everything crumbles around you, what remains?
wintercherry100 2 years ago 4
And this is key: Its not about what we think, not about what we feel, not about what we like, not about our ideas, not about religiosity. Its nothing of the sort. Its something rather which is poignant, as if everyone gathered in anxiety for an intense prayer. Or its like love, its warm, powerful.
wintercherry100 2 years ago 2
Everything became insignificant, non-existent, even myself. All ideas, all nobility became insignificant, there was nothing, you understand? There was no politics, no religion, nothing to cling onto. So what do we have when there is nothing? What remains? There is a centre of force. Perhaps there is something that remains.
wintercherry100 2 years ago
Nevertheless, I can only talk from my own experience, isnt it? A man cannot come into being or live until he can achieve a true and total nothingness of what he is, of what he thinks, of what he believes, of what he likes. When one arrives at this complete nothingness it is that something exists or dies, is it not? I have realized this during long sessions of concentration/meditation, there is a nothingness.
wintercherry100 2 years ago
It is necessary that we reach a stage where the consciousness turns in a different direction, is it not? This is the case. Its an evolutionary crisis. Were in a moment in time where we must learn to breathe, where something has to give, or else, suffocate. Thats whats happening.
wintercherry100 2 years ago
Were not in a moral crisis or political crisis, nor financial, nor religious. Theres none of that. Were in an evolutionary crisis, where humanity is in the process of dying so that it can be revived as something else. So, everything is disintegrating everywhere. Everything is horrible everywhere, even in the splendid American cities where its comfortable- its the same barbarism everywhere.
wintercherry100 2 years ago
Satprem: We are entering a state of not only hell of a psychological nature as Rimbault describes, but a physical hell now. At the moment, one is in the process of destroying the earth, is it not? There is barbarism everywhere in one form or another. It becomes very suffocating, because it seems necessary for mankind to face a terrifying physical reality in order to change its consciousness. Thats what the situation is.
wintercherry100 2 years ago
David: We started from this quote of Rimbault: Were in a season of hell. He describes the hell that were in the process of living with this paved fate; that there is hell all around us. He says however that this is a kind of an awakening that brings an ardent patience.
wintercherry100 2 years ago
vidéo à faire regarder au plus grand nombre en ces temps de "crise" pour que le plus grand nombre ouvre les yeux Satprem est convaincant c est si lucide..
encore merci de ce cadeau
nikolai1980mk 2 years ago
I would highly appreciate if someone could post the transcript of this interview in English.
"Je serait très reconnaissant si quelqu'un pouvait après la transcription de cette interview en anglais."
rangsar 3 years ago
in the next days I will
bumper3000 3 years ago
merci
claudeee7 3 years ago
MERCI MERCI MERCI
un parfait inconnu pour moi il y encore 10 mn; quels moments uniques et tellement d'actualité...
que ce monde nouveau vienne et vite....
djamalk 3 years ago
Merci beaucoup, Chantal... 5*****
xXxSocorroDovesxXx 3 years ago
En 1985 j'ai entendu cet extrait dans le grand échiquier de Michel Jonasz (Partie 1 de 3'35'' à la fin et la seconde partie). Beaucoup, beaucoup d'émotions à réentendre ce document, essentiel ô combien !!! Merci.
lungta33 3 years ago
Tant d'émotions à réentendre ces passages si importants de Satprem ! Je me souviens l'avoir entendu la première fois lors d'un grand échiquier consacré à Michel Jonaz en 1985 (de 3'35'' à la fin) et cette rencontre a été déterminante pour ma vie. Merci infiniment.
lungta33 3 years ago 2
vraiment superbe,plein d'enseignements.quand tout s'écroule il reste la profondeur de l'ame :un mystère qu'on ne saisit pas.
issakaressen 3 years ago
too intense and I just had a bath
the video
clouds361 3 years ago
Mercí Chantal :)very good 5/5* much respect
Tina XxX
Heartkissing7 3 years ago
Merci à tous :)
Il se dégage de Satprem une paix, une présence, un "silence", un amour qui ont le pouvoir de nous connecter à ces états ... du moins momentanément ...
Merci Satprem :)
ChantHappy 3 years ago
Merci Chant Happy !
ystephanshrem 3 years ago
superbe vidéo où toutes les questions arrivent et se culbutent pour laisser entrevoir notre moi profond, notre temple intérieur indestructible, qui ne vit pas d'apparence mais de réalité, le lien direct avec l'Univers
magiedumoment 3 years ago
Chaque phrase pourrait donner lieu à un débat d'idées. C'est passionnant!
lelouchemile 3 years ago
respect.
mots plein de sens.
fougeratlaurent 3 years ago
Merci professeur !
Maintenant les terrains vagues
Maintenant le silence
Un mur noir, nu
Et derrière
Le ciel
(Sri Aurobindo)
Juanmatus01 3 years ago
good 5*
Inky261 3 years ago
Le transfert de conscience dans l'évolution, de l'homme vers un destin ..
Le vide complet ou on nais ou on meurt, l'anéantissement total .
Il reste quoi ? Qui na pas de mot ces ça parce que ces ça quand tout s'écroule.
yimasoleil 3 years ago