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  • momsdad I'm also a member of the SDA church but in the Netherlands, I don't know what the SDA church is doing in the US, but I do know that I don't agree with everything the church is doing. I know the church is present at the world council of churches a place we don't belong... But I do believe the Sabbath is the ONE day to worship and that sundayworship is a sign of the beast and the RFID chip is the mark of the beast, so don't take it.

  • You know, it is this fear of a national Sunday law that has caused the Seventh Day Adventist church to hold hands with the abortionists, gay activists, atheists and evolutionists. SDAs think that the Religious Right is out to pass some Sunday law so they take sides with those who clearly hate God. It is so strange. Can someone explain to me why the SDA Church presents legal representation in Washington D.C. on these matters that fight against Christian beliefs?

  • Daniel 3

  • but then againg people dont be decived,sunday law is not the mark of the beast,the mark of the beast is the verichip,the mark of the beast is part of the image of the beast wich you should not follow or wordship,neither you cant take the mark of the beast.

  • Agreed, the mark of the beast is partially SPIRITUAL and partially economical, therefore it does have to do with buying and selling, AND giving into the beast power. So, your arguement for the verichip as well as sunday making up the mark of the beast could very well be correct....

  • What does the Bible say about the Mark of the Beast? Worship. What does a chip have to do with worship? With in Rev 13, buy and sell matches with the chip as it will control the buy or sell. The Mark of the Beast is Sunday sabbath and this beast says to WORSHIP the image of the beast

  • Revelation actually states that the mark of the beast will be received in the forehead or the hand while the seal of God is only given in the forehead (Rev 7 & Rev 14). This has been suggested to mean in the heart (forehead) by your actions (hand). One does not get the Seal of God by his actions, but only by his heart. Yet the mark of the beast is gained by either belief or by action (ie you believe in God, but follow the beast just to stay out of trouble) Worship is the TEST for the mark.

  • Amen

  • sunday law is part of the image of the first beast of revelation wich is the roman catholic church,and will be presented by the second beast of revelation wich is america,so you see they are tow in one,they together are mistery babylon.

  • Sunday law is mark of the beast!!

  • so what will you do to prevent this...Since you are well informed about this. what do you plan to do?

  • We can do nothing to prevent this. It's inevitable! What I plan to do is continue to serve my God, keep myself sinless through the righteousness and strength of Jesus Christ by keeping all ten of His commandments and forsaking my sins by confession and earnest prayer (1John 1:9 Rev 12:17, Rev 14:12, Rev 22:14, John 15:10) and obey the council, which Christ told His messenger Ellen G White to move into the country when God makes a way. Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His Righteousness

    Bless

  • God will protect His faithful people.

  • Interesting. Also check out National Sunday Law by Jan Marcussen and be further encouraged and blessed.God bless!!!

  • ...difference does it make where you go? If God can protect you in the country, he cant in the city? Just saying. I do love the conspiracy though. If you're right, thats amazing, if you're wrong, dang good sell.

  • Ok I admit about about the invisible part, it could sound abit more professional. God says that he will protect His people but we are not to put ourselves in unnecessary danger. Thats like saying I have all the medication that can cure me but I'll ask God to heal me instead. God has provided the medication so why are you asking to be healed? Not that I doubt God's healing power, I don't doubt that at all its just He has given us instructions and we are simply to follow it.

  • "If God can protect you in the country, he cant in the city?"

    Ummmmm...ever hear of a man named Lot? Sometimes it's just a good idea to be as far away from a city as you can get.

  • exactly. Also to add on, it's not just leaving physically but mentally and spiritually. We can get easily distracted in an environment of Tv, games, Sports, Pornography, music etc

    The country is 100% nature, which is where God wants us to be. Thanks for the comment

    God bless my friend

  • Mmm. Okay. Thats a good counter arguement. Jesus did indeed advise the Jews to leave Jerusalem. However, I still find the video a little contrary to itself. On one hand its advising people to leave the cities, run to the hills and then it says the military will have the technology to find and kill you no matter where you are unless the angels make you "Invisible" (btw, not that I doubt angels can, but that probably isnt the best wording, makes the video appear a little wacky crackpot.) So what..

  • This can't possibly be wrong. Everything is in place. It is the sunday Law by Stealth. It's not gonna jump out and say Worship on sunday or die, No way. Look at the new laws that is out already after 9/11. Terror laws, freezing account laws. The Commandment keepers will be known as terroists as they are not keeping the law of the land and freeze their accounts (rev 13:17) What do you understand will happen before the end of time? Not talking about sunday law but what do YOU believe will happen?

  • Not entirely sure as to my own belief about endtimes. Im not really a prophecy guy. I came on your site through conspiracy interest. I actually attend an SDA church because I do believe in the seventh day sabbath and well, its not like there is a lot of options out there. haha. I post my pastor my site. Walt Groff. I like him though because he DOESNT focus on EGW, in fact, hardly mentions her, He's more gospel orientated, if your heart's not right, no doctrine will save you.

  • Thats true. Your heart has to be right in Christ.

    Well I believe it's important to focus on the prophecies aswell because you know how far you are untill the time of the end. Some people mock by asking when is God coming and I says soon all the time but by studying the Prophecies of Daniel and revelations I can pin point how close we are e.g. the pope in america, Bush and the Pope had a secret meeting on the condition of the earth and how God is angry with america as they are not keeping His..

  • ...commandments so their gonna bring back the Lords day which they say sunday. EGW predicted the sunday law. It happened before in 1888 by Blair who tried to pass a sunday Law. The Law already is in the books, all thats needed is a seal of aproval and walla. In Zimbabwe I heard that the sunday Law is to be THIS YEAR but I am not going by dates. When it happens, it happens. I hope you believe but its completely up to you. Just pray hard about this, what do you have to lose. God bless....Peace

  • So true i am a SDA as well, i keep the Sabbath, i read some of EGW books and her books focus on the bible, they are easy to read and easy to understand and harmonize with the bible. Really good reading cause its explains the bible really well.

  • "Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life"-Jesus Matt 6:27.

    "Therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself"-Jesus Matt 6:34

    Oh ye of little faith.....

    Now you're dividing your own denomination into obviously one being right and others "falling away". Man the fear based theology in the far right SDA church is sad. Even if it is as you say, Did Paul and Silas RUN AWAY? No! The Gospel isnt about HIDING! Have faith my freind. What will be, will be.

  • Who says I have little faith? There is only one truth. If you say there are many ways to get into heaven then you are sadly mistaken. Christ says there is ONE LORD, ONE FAITH so obviously there is only one way. What is this one truth? God's commandment keeping people and no one else. Paul and silas had a mission to do which was preach the word, which you are taking out of context. Jesus told the Jews when you see the abomination of desolation spoken by Daniel the prophet, RUN TO THE MOUNTAINS

  • This isn't the gospel we are taking about here, we are talking about our lives. Christ says Matt 24:15,16 Run to the mountains why? He wanted to save us from destruction. In AD 70 Titus and his army destoried the Jews and not one single christian was killed because they understood the book of Daniel.

    'Whoso readeth, let him understand'

    When the sunday law comes to pass we are to flee to the country otherwise we may be part of the plagues spoken in Revelations

    I hope you understand now!

  • Also to add. In the 2nd world war, the men didn't leave their families in london to get bombed, they sent their families to the country why? Simply because it is was away from danger, (evacuation) This is all we are talking about here. Nothing to so with the gospel, Nothing to do with fear, we are just warning people in advance on what is to come, just like the Bible has warned us what is to come. No one is giving out the loud cry which God told us to do. We are just obeying His calling

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