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  • I don't blame anyone for being disgusted with Palin.

  • She disgust me, I know which party I support but I try to be fair.

  • Sorry but I see not one difference between either face.

  • Imagine if Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly or John Kasich are the next moderator of McCain/Obama debate? Would the Liberal elite cry foul?

  • RJupiter2:

    First of all, you need to get over this "liberal elite" nonsense that the Hannity/O'Reilly crowd have drilled into your head. "Elites" have nothing to do with anything here.

    Second, regarding whether liberals would cry foul if the moderator had been someone like Hannity or O'Reilly: Your premise is not valid because Ifil is NOT a liberal equivalent of those guys. She, unlike them, is an actual journalist who take the profession seriously. She does not engage in (continued)

  • (cont) politics-as-sport, and does not adapt a bully pulpit to fan the flames of the culture wars. Fanning those flames is all that the Hannitys/O'Reillys do every day, and to compare it with what people like Ifil do is simply dishonest.

    It's too bad she had a hard time covering up her disgust here, but that is hardly in the same league as being a pundit posing as a journalist. (And I certainly share that disgust. The convention was a vulgar display of brutish ignorance and provincialism.)

  • Have you ever listened to conservative "Talk Radio"? Evidently not!

    I should know better to comment in "YouTube" with uninformed mind-numbed robots like you!

    If you were any smarter I could water you!

  • Uh, try again.

    Listened? Check.

    Read? Check.

    Watched? Check.

    If you're objecting to my characterization of the rightwing figures in question as "pundits posing as journalists," I'd like to hear just why you disagree. I'm sure even THEY wouldn't argue with that basic description, although they might want to use different words.

  • Your being kind with me and I do appreciate it! No objection to your words or phrases!

    It's just an insult to my intelligence when I watch MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Tom Brokaw, David Greggory, Katie Couric, and Gwen Ifill etc.

    The objectivity of reporting political news is mostly spun with an agenda driven ideology.

    Many news items reported on "Talk Radio" don't make the (Main Stream Media) headlines! This bias is decades old and getting worse!

  • No. The mainstream media (CBS, ABC, CNN, etc.) do not operate with any ideology, except the ideology of money. (except MSNBC, which does have a liberal slant). And the ideology of money, above all, favors preserving the status quo. And since the status quo is that the media conglomerates are all owned by large corporations with ties to powerful interests including the military-industrial complex, the media will rarely rock the boat too mucy. And not rocking the boat almost always (continued)

  • (cont) favors the Republicans.

    Journalists themselves, by admission, are often Democratic-leaning, sure. And there is definitely a liberal bias in mainstream media in terms of surface social issues. But when it comes to large, all-encompassing issues of enormous consequence, the media is neutral to conservative---again, reluctance to rock the boat.

    People stuck on the "liberal media" thing are only looking at the small stuff, and are failing to see the larger picture.

  • she didnt belittle ANYONE!!!!

    and you did excellent with both of them, why are you ruining it noW??? come on gwen

  • The bottom line here is that anyone who is informed about Gwen Ifill, her work as a print and broadcast media journalist, and her general integrity wouldn't make these accusations.

    All others are uninformed ignoramuses and frauds in general, or just sad little creatures who have no outlet for their generalized rage except for the Internet.

    If you want to learn about issues, watch PBS or CSPAN. If you want to digest spins, soundbites, and general biased lard journalism, watch everything else.

  • I believe that it is Gwen Ifill's Integrity that people have a problem with; it is her bias. I'm sure you would agree that NPR's Senior Corespondent Juan Williams knows Gwen Ifill tremendously well, yet even he stated that that the choice for moderator was not the best given that Ifill's book is clearly dependent on Obama's victory. Obviously, Ifill has made her choice on which candidate she chooses to support, and therefore she should have been disqualified as a mediator for the debate.

  • I think it's disgusting that they are having this one-sided liberal bitch who btw will be coming out with her pro-Obama book soon, be the moderator!! She did not disclose that she was an Obama supporter and author of that book about him!!! Look for her to clearly give the tough stuff to McCain and the easy stuff to ObaManure! This is such crap! If it were the other way around, the demoCRAPS would NEVER allow someone of the opposite agenda to moderate their debate! DISGUSTING!

  • Agree! Did anyone see her negative commentary during Palin's speech and her mocking tone over the drill baby applause during the GOP convention? This woman is dangerous and is going to try to take away from Palin the fresh approach from the old boy's school she brings as a Washington outsider. Palin is the real CHANGE for main street and that is why they hate her. Ifill is dishonest for not declaring her book to both campaigns earlier, and greedy for not backing down.

  • Could be worse - downright vulgar insults, classic Democratic defense

  • I think RNC supporters know damn well why most liberals hate Palin. It's something you really have to lie to yourself to deny...

    It's because, for a politician, she comes across about as uninformed and unintelligent as they get.

    Bush sounds reasonably intelligent and current VP Cheney is a pure genius relative to her.

    Incidentally, can anyone explain to me what her recent joke about having heard Biden's speeches in like the 2nd grade was about? Please?

  • Hey Cocoababe - if you didn't notice, we had 9/11!! he has kept us safe from terrorists since then. Yes he had more experience than Obama before he became President - its all well documented. Check your facts about Obama. He reads off other people's notes and oh by the way, did you notice his policy on Pakistan? He sounded closer to Bush than McCain. He just does not get it. McCain is made out of a different mold altogether. He has gone against Bush on many well documented occassions.

  • mainecoon: We weren't attacked UNTIL Bush got in office. We were safe BEFORE he became President. I don't recall another attack BEFORE Bush was President.

  • You dont recall the world trade center attacks of 1994? Are you a child?

  • Soldierette - perhaps you are a child or you would remember that Clinton's men had a trigger on Osama Bin Laden but he declined to have them take him out then - hence 9/11, forcing Bush into the Iraq war. How are your history marks?

  • I remember that Bush went to a totally different country to avoid catching him. Bin Ladin is in Afghanistan in the mountains on the border of Pakistan. Bush turned down a DIRECT HIT order for Bin Ladin with no explanation.

  • Harley, we don't even see Gwen Ifill's ass until they trot her out as a token for debate moderation every year. Do you think most people get their news from PBS? LOL Not! She has an axe to grind about her disgust at being used and abused by white corporate media (booted from CNN) and Obama is her shot. Watch how she pokes those lips out tonight when Palin is answering a question.

  • dimegood: You should really expand your sources of information from more than just Faux News because PBS is highly respected for their journalism. You might learn a thing or two if you opened your mind to more information instead of believing the lies McCain & Palin are telling you. You fit the mold of a "low information" voter. It's sad to see in this day and age.

    Even dumb ass McLiar knows that she is a professional journalist and will be fair.

  • Soldiertte, I AM a journalist. I know the work of PBS and Ms. Ifill very well, but that has nothing to do with whether or not the majority of this country gets their information from PBS. Do you really believe that? lmfao PBS has a very distinct audience and the majority of America ain't it. She will not be fair and you must be blind in the face of the EVIDENCE right before your eyes in this video. I mean, good grief.

  • "To make permanent certain education-related tax incentives; repeal the 1993 income tax increase on Social Security benefits; To improve access [..]; etc etc."

    None of these represent proposed bills. They represent your spin on general proposed measures.

    "enhance rescission authority under fast-track procedures"

    Huh?

    "etc etc. "

    That about sums up your post.

  • Why do people hate Gov Palin so much? is it because she is more accomplished and has actual executive experience than Obama? I want someone to tell me what Obama has done for this country...apart from 3 yrs of community service and leading a campaign with other people's money. Has anyone been to the areas where Obama worked? I dont see any difference after his passage. In Alaska I do.

  • Great point Mainecoon60! Excellent point! The thing is, Obama was even't a sucess as a community organizer. Google N.Y. Times, his name and community organizer and see what you get from back in July! lol He quit that job because HE admits he wasn't getting a damn thing done and he wimped out--oh and lied his ass off about it in his book. Wake up America!!!!!

  • Yes that's just the vibe I get from him...a wimp, wuss, pussy, chicken, illusionist, fluid, empty, trickster, all talk no walk

  • mainecoon: That's because you haven't done your research other than hate websites and Faux Noise. More than half of the country disagrees with that gibberish you're spewing, and we will vote for Obama on Nov. 4 and take back our White House.

    Obama/Biden '08!

  • Soldierette - give me Obama's accomplishments and I will shut up for good. I believe Dems hate her it is so obvious from the left wing media attacks. They hate her because they feel threatened by her accomplishments compared to Obama. As a youth, McCain shed his blood for this country in contrast to which Obama was partying with terrorists. McCain dropped his campaign to return to help solve the crisis while Obama was strutting around trying to imitate George Clooney.

  • Yea, Obama disgusts the Silent Majority. We will vote in McCain in November.

  • Lets not remain too silent. We are not participating in the polls enough. It is discouraging for many of us to think that if Obama became President (weak one too), he would as usual vote Absent or Present on important legislation and let that conniving thief Pelosi rule the country.

  • dimegood: There you go twisting the facts. Sen. Obama was good at everything he attempted to do in his life, including community organizing. There will be college courses based on his teachings of how to organize the grassroots, which is why he's winning this election and will be our next President. He wasn't a quitter. He wanted to be in a better position to get things done, which is why he ran for office because Washington wasn't getting things done.

  • Some of Obama's NAY votes in 2007 contradicting his campaign promises:

    To make permanent certain education-related tax incentives; repeal the 1993 income tax increase on Social Security benefits; To improve access to affordable health care; To strengthen earmark reform;to prohibit govt employing family members of any Federal office holder;To provide Congress a second look at wasteful spending by establishing enhance rescission authority under fast-track procedures; etc etc.

  • Soldierette, you sound like a fool. He has been a FAILURE at everything he's done. That's why he'll lose this election too, having been getting a paycheck for a Senatorial job he isn't even doing and having you rubes fund the ride. It's obvious you didn't read that Times article or there's no WAY you could claim that he was a success as a community organizer. He was a failure and he was/is a liar. Even the guy who hired him for the job admits he accomplished NOTHING. I guess he's racist. smh

  • People don't hate her. People think she is not qualified to be a leader of the free world, and they're right.

    Only an idiot cannot tell that she is using canned answers for every question asked. Since when is the American public not allowed to vet a candidate for the VP? We put them there to run OUR country. She can't ask us for the job and not be willing to be interviewed by the people. It's just nonsense to think otherwise. The people who support her OR McLiar are the reason we have Bush.

  • The more important point is has Obama been adequately vetted TO BE PRESIDENT??!!!. Lawyers are known for their ability to fool the people. Those who have chosen to vote for Obama have not done their background check on him but have taken the easy ride on the Obama wave. Its DARWIN IN ACTION! The whole world is watching and perplexed about the IQ levels of Obama supporters.

  • Harely, it's not just the youtube posters. it's most american people who just pay attention to sound bites. Ever heard of judging a book by it's cover? Hello!!! "Breakthough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama" It's not right but that's what you are dealing with these days.

    I say replace her, better yet obama can ask for her to be replaced so palin will not have any cover to hide under when she gets smoked tonight.

  • Another alarming conflict of interest is Acorn so closely handling voter registration. Are we sure they are not throwing away the Rep registrations? who is verifying? after all, Obama was their trainer and lawyer.

  • Mainecoon: Come on. The Republicans have always cheated in elections, even up to this day when they had to go to court to be forced to stop trying to keep people in Michigan who have been foreclosed on from voting. They say if you had a foreclosure, you are registered improperly, therefore, your vote shouldn't count. That's bullsh*t! They caused the housing crash and want to punish minorities who fell victim by not allowing them to vote. They cheated for Bush to get in office also. TWICE.

  • Great post Harley. Ignorance is dangerous. I started off as an Obama supporter but as I read more about his background, affiliations, and achievements (however inferior compared to McCain and Sarah), the more I realized how ignorant I was.

  • How is Obama "inferior" to McCain to was at the BOTTOM of his class and never attended college. And Palin attended FIVE schools before she even got a degree. Who goes to five colleges before getting their B.A.? Nobody!

    You were never for Obama, so quit the lying. He has led an exemplary life and McCain? Please. Two words for him: KEATING FIVE

  • While Obama was being prepped to walk like George Cloony and look Presidential, Sarah was busy negotiating down oil companies and tax dollars for her people and McCain warning the senate against Fanny and Freddy. Where was Obama where was Joe? Oh yes Obama was "Present" ha! what a joke! he is nothing but Pelosi's puppet and trojan in the white house.

  • I hope that in the intimacy of the ballot box people will do some soul searching.

    Obama has bought everyone including school teachers with the promise of an extra dollar irrespective of performance.

    Iffel - this woman is supposed to be a fair moderator after her comments on Palin at the GOP? Why does she not comment on Obama's insults hurled towards McCain? Who are they trying to fool? what a shameless way in which the left wing media supports those who throws more dollars their way.

  • Oh, and EXCELLENT work on the comparisons!! Kudos!

  • Gwen Ifill is one ugly woman. On the inside and on the outside.

  • Strangely my two posts suggesting Ifill to do the right thing take attention away from herself because this is not about her and to step down, have been taken off the blog within minutes...her video at the GOP convention is proof that she will NOT be neutral at the debate.

  • fucking bullshit! no more taxpayer dollars for pbs

  • Yes, some of her remarks during the Cheney / Edwards debate were called in to question. The entire book is essentially about Obama. The book is complete by all sources I was able to research. I could really careless is she is an Obama supporter. I do not care if she has written a book about him. I do care that she has a financial stake in the outcome of this election and I do not think she will be able to remain impartial.

  • Ifill will receive $350K from the sale of her book if BO is elected. If that isn't a conflict of interest then nothing is. This whole choice of moderator is nonsense.

  • Poltiical activist is not a community manager lol. That's what Palin was talking about.

  • Yes. Gwen Ifill will reveal her Pro-Obama bias for all to see while attempting to maintain the illusion of fairness during the Palin-Biden debate. Despite the fact that she has written a novel praising Obama (and how he inspired other black political candidates), the powers-that-be nonetheless offered her moderator staus for the express purpose of trying to embarass Palin. Gewm is black. That is for sure. Gwen is a woman (debatable, but also true). They have loaded the deck with a sacred cow.

  • I like her but of course she is biased and should recuse herself from hosting the one and only VP debate. AND or a compromise to let someone like Hannity host a 2nd VP debate.

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