Seems like the cloud will only work with new users. Those familiar with having their own computer, not so much. I installed a cloud server for eyeos and now what? Who would use it? I have a eeepc with ubuntu on it with an 2gb of file space. I cab ssh to another computer for storage. It just seems the cloud will benefit the computer illiterate and companies looking to fire IT people. I mean I'm just saying.....
Internet 2 is slow phase to HI-Jack the internet CLOUD COMPUTING! Microsoft is trying to sell this, DON"T BUY IT!! Unless you want to just through your computer out the window! You will now hear this term more and more! It is a internet monopoly! Look up “ Internet 2” on youtube Major Internet companies are Lobbying w/google spread the word GOOGLE AND Other Servers will take our entire free internet away! You've been Warned!
@barrettarq, Internet 2 is the same but faster and is due to the fact that there are to many flaws to the old one. Hackers are disrupting networking for buisnesses so blame them for the change. It will be more secure and will work like a new OS and then eventually get bogged down with hackers because if someone knows how to use something they will find a way around stuff! lol
It will take a while to put in place so don't worry just yet!
@WakkieRob1 That is what they want you to think.... every time the government want you to surrender your rights to their given securities... they have something up their sleeves like this, to make most people vulnerable and put the blame on hackers etc... this is why steve jobs, eric schmitt, and bill gates attend the "bilderberg meeting" in Switzerland and in past bilderberg events! it is in plain view! look at all the evidence at "PayForFreedom .(COM"
@WakkieRob1 That is what they want you to think.... every time the government want you to surrender your rights to their blinding securities... they have something up their sleeves like this, to make most people vulnerable and put the blame on hackers etc... this is why steve jobs, eric schmitt, and bill gates attend the "bilderberg meeting" in Switzerland and in past bilderberg events! it is in plain view! look at all the evidence at "PayForFreedom .(COM"
The next big trend sounds nebulous, but it's not so fuzzy when you view the value proposition from the perspective of IT professionals. Cloud computing is at an early stage, with a motley crew of providers large and small delivering a slew of cloud-based services, Check the Nick Carr's video on The Clouds Roll in: An Afterword to Nick Carr's Book The Big Switch
Well, he was right. We are streaming videos and TV over the internet today in high definition. Check out zattoo. The browser is the killer application.
As I'm adjusting materials and lights using Autodesk Maya software along with the Vray for Maya renderer, the software is "path tracing" the scene using every single available CPU core (doesn't matter how many cores, it's 100% utilization nonstop). 3D work also generates hundreds of GB of data. A typical production scene renders on the command line with over 32 GB of RAM usage; it can be much higher if the scene is more detailed. The system resources are mine and I know how they're being used.
I'm completely against this "centralized outsourcing of computing resources", and I'm in general against things that take away control from myself. All of my data is on my own personal hard drives. Those files are MINE and don't belong to a corporation. Plus due to the amount of data I work with, it has to be local and in my control. Relying on the local power plant is enough, I don't want to rely additionally on some satellite in a high orbit just to do even the most basic computer tasks.
Accessing your files and programs from a remote machine to a home server is fine. I like this and have no problem with it, but to be FORCED to rely on hundreds of lines of cabling then all of a sudden a huge earthquake in some remote country might destroy the servers you're relying on? This is just 1 out of millions of examples of why cloud computing is a bad idea; it creates a "single point of failure" not just for me but for (possibly) millions of other people.
I think cloud computing is the worst idea ever to come along in technology; sure it's great for some things. A corporation centralizing it's workers tasks, I get that, but for the whole worldwide community, including home users? Worst idea ever. First off, I'm in control of my system (or the local network of systems when they're batch processing some tasks), I know exactly the resources being used and am able to dynamically allocate resources while tasks are running.
In my line of work, 3D animation and 3D rendering, a 48-core server is easily at 100% (not sorta 100%) for weeks (24/7, no downtime) as it's processing the data of a project into 32-bit floating point precision image files. Oh and each 2048x1152 frame contains about 150 MB of data so a 2 minute animation easily gets into the hundreds of GB range. This is not counting the hundreds of other GB for the project itself. Now let me tell you what I think about cloud computing.
Plus. I personally think things like smartphones streaming through major network is a step towards a mass information exchange. Everything has to contribute basically. Social network website are contributing to this factor also.
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ok that part at the end upset me. when he started talking about filestreams i could tell he barely understood what he has talking about.
yes all file io is stream based,its a stream going from your hard drive to your memory, and yes you can turn that into a stream going from an online source to your computer,but no you cannot just use them interchangeably.
to understand why he is wrong i shall first touch up on the latency hierarchy of your computer.the slowest thing in your OS is your hdd(cont)
(cont) after that comes your ram, then your cpu cache. the cpu cache is the fastest memory available. from the computer's prospective its waiting for some time on the ram, and if it could do everything from cpu cache it would. the next slowest, your memory. this is for things that dont fit in the cache. usually the cache will have a pointer to some point in memory to get the rest of it. the bulk of your variables are here.
then your hdd, the slow beast which is only good for persistance memory
(cont) and storage of things not being used right now. important stuff isnt put here. file streams are used because this is too slow to just load straight into memory.
now the cloud adds another layer of slow memory much lower than the hard drive. and no amount of improvements to internet speed will get past this simple truth you are limited by the laws of physics. until you can make an internet that works on quantum entanglement, the cloud will always be the slowest memory possible.
@tuseroni You said it. Finally someone who knows what they're talking about and realizes how idiotic the idea is of "globalizing cloud computing" for even the most basic of tasks a local system needs to be doing for the user in control; you. Relying on a SATA2 cable with average transfer rates of about 150 MB on a decent hard drive is already slow enough, but "the cloud" would never be as fast as a typical hard drive. It would be worse than a system running a full page file with no real memory.
(cont) now imagine your os needed some important file and it had to grab from this slow medium. its already slow just grabbing from the hard drive now it has to move over this slower medium and wait to get it before it can proceed to the next thing, which may be getting another file, or making a change.
you can do a lot in parallel but some problems demand a serial solution. and the OS especially needs serial solutions.
@tuseroni This is highly unlike cloud computing in which systems are shared and in one instance you might have less system resources than later; productivity can't be estimated (for example, you might prepare to work again the next day on your 3D scene that requires about 40 GB of RAM to edit and is now refusing to load because "the cloud" is busy tonight and you've been allocated far less memory". This is one reason why all my work is LOCAL and I won't have it any other way.
(cont) it needs to know that your printer drivers are installed BEFORE it checks the state of the printer for instance. the hard drive is a MUST.most your OS stuff should be in ram honestly,if not ram at least on a hard drive. not out in the cloud.
now there is something for having it automatically backed up in the cloud, when i make a web application i put things into memory and keep interaction with the internet to a minimum. most stuff is done on the client side and only backups happen online
@tuseroni They say "in the cloud" as if cloud computing is the best thing in computer science since the transistor. Cloud computing is fine for a corporate environment, but not at all for home users as an OS. I have a feeling people who really don't use the computer for more than internet browsing understand why cloud computing is a horrible idea; it's fine for email and certain other things through an internet browser, but to do away with the OS as we know it? How could anyone endorse that?
(cont) and that is generally the way one MUST do such things. the internet is not reliable, it could get cut off for some reason, is could be going slow, someone else could be stealing the bandwidth. it could get cut off in the middle of a transfer. you have to account for these things and simply pushing file streams to internet streams is just silly. there is a place for the cloud, but it is not anything CLOSE to a replacement for local files on a local machine.
@tuseroni Not only is the internet unreliable, but even worse, a cloud server cluster would be a single point of failure for potentially millions of people. I do 3D animation and 3D rendering; each project consumes around 500 GB of disk space, and a 48-core server is easily at 100% CPU utilization nonstop for weeks (24/7) as the full HD frames are rendered, generating hundreds of more GB. It's all local too, I would NEVER do what I do relying entirely on remote systems.
i think every operating system windows or any is bullshit it should be the Basic in a operating system not to put any off there bullshit in it like media player r movie maker or whatever it should be on the user to put what he want they should just make it as a Basic operating system and let the user put what he like
Cloud computing is euphemism for anti-piracy prevention. That is why it is time to give up movies, app, music, and books that are for profit. You have to switch to open source sooner or later. It is time we look for supposedly free or cheaper means of entertainment. Moreover, if you don't have an internet connection or have a slow internet connection like I do, then you're screwed. xD
There are a few pros to this idea, I think... But for me the cons are WAY too many, and much too harsh. I like to have my data, and my harddrive full of it sitting right next to me, safe in my computer. If I need to, I could still unplug my internet and not have my computer freeze up.
Using an O/S that's being hosted online will be a big bottleneck. I agree with Chris, 10-20 years before the internet can even be up to par enough to give us a responsive O/S. I wont be using it though. ^_^
@Blivia said "here are a few pros to this idea, I think... But for me the cons are WAY too many, and much too harsh. I like to have my data, and my harddrive full of it sitting right next to me, safe in my computer. If I need to, I could still unplug my internet and not have my computer freeze up." That pretty much sums up the cloud computing thing. I myself work with a lot of data and it's nice to know it's not sitting in a remote server cluster in a far off country; it's right here.
@Blivia said "here are a few pros to this idea, I think... But for me the cons are WAY too many, and much too harsh. I like to have my data, and my harddrive full of it sitting right next to me, safe in my computer. If I need to, I could still unplug my internet and not have my computer freeze up." That pretty much sums up the cloud computing thing. I myself work with a lot of data and it's nice to know it's not sitting in a remote server cluster in a far off country; it's right here.
cloudshare is powered by VMware vSphere I know because it crashed on my computer, and the vmWare logo popped up on the screen. This means anyone could make a cloud server. Anyone that wants cloud computing as the future as a home uses is crazy. Most software hacks , keygen ... and so on ask that you disconnect the internet , and this means say good by to pirated software, and games... You can't disconnect the internet if everything is on the internet.
F*ck cloud computing, people need to be responsible for their own data and info and keep a physical artifact of this in their homes and offices.... why make your entire stuff online? its become that much easier to be a victim of hacking.
glits and flashiness works for the first week when you get a computer, then you are used to the looks and you start getting annoyed about speed-times and other problems ...
An OS on the cloud will be a hype for maybe a couple of years, but then everybody will run back to the on disk OS, because NOBODY will want to have their personal stuff on someone Else's computer....
@hectorae86 Furthermore, I am a Microsoft Certified Programmer, so i know a good deal about making programs (not only in windows).
To build a program in Visual Basic, C# C++ or whatever language, at LEAST 80% of your program, is already in Windows, otherwise you'd have to make every single button or form all from scratch.
That said, how am I gonna make programs for Google Chrome OS ?(for example) that's right, I won't, there will be no market for 3rd party software, or at least not a big one.
If Window 7 could boot in 7 sec. or less than google will have nothing to worry about.
But it is true, I have most of my Residential Customers do nothing more than Start their Windows machines wait 2-5 min. only to click on Google Chrome to surf the web. I do feel that we are moving to an online OS soon. But if Windows can't give us a boot to internet in 7-10 seconds then they will loose the Consumer Market.
I want and am waiting for cloud computing! IT IS the future. by the way ur local machine is not that secure as is..enterprises have or can have far greater security measures then you and i can afford.
If the operating system is run completely from the cloud, then your systems specs wouldn't matter. If you had a smart phone with say a 4g connection, you'd be able to work in a PC or Mac environment through the cloud.
Internet connectivity would be the main varying factor. Bandwidth is the future of computing! The faster your connection the more speed for computing.
Cloud computing is for computers that need to be deployed on a large scale and where a normal computer hardware investment for an organization is too huge.
Cloud computing can help businesses!.. So you dumb farts who have no idea of the application of Cloud Computing can just shut the FUCK UP.
@megadeath8317 Cloud computing has already been going on it is just hosting with another name. That name is pay for what you use. So basically we give you a server and that server is hooked to the net duh...and we monitor how much it gets used. Cloud computing isn't bad, but if they try and lock it down some how like Comcast is then it is not freedom its a monopoly and I think that is what everyone is worried about. We love the internet as it is. What is the current problem with the net?
@KingGoddard Cloud computing is too far for home users with a good computer and internet. There's no need for cloud computing at home.. Cloud computing is being targeted at markets where people cannot afford good computer hardware.. For example, small institutions, non-profit organizations, villages and such.. Cloud computing will certainly benefit these markets. Its how a good eco system can be built with all providers.
Cloud Computing will be the next step to "BIG BROTHER" where you no longer own your own independent PC, but will be part of a "WORLD WIDE" network owned and controlled by one corporate entity. And we all know what corporation backed government means! Watch the 1970 movie "Colossus: The Forbin Project" to get a better idea! (Computer takes over the world)
One world Govt. where all worldwide computers are hooked up to one Main computer! Camera's will be next! As Prophesied: Revelation 13:15-16
I wonder if the bozo on the phone knows that you can run the OS strictly text based if he doesn't like the GUI. The big downside to Cloud OS is that if you don't have the internet or any way to get onto it via a wifi adapter etc, then you're screwed. or if the net is slow, then your 'computer' is slow etc. I'd rather not put my rig that close to the source of greyware and hacking a holes. I'll stick with a Hard drive based OS thanks
Google has more infrastructure(such as server racks) dedicated for the internet than any other company... Google own like 3% of the internet infrastructure worldwide with like Yahoo, Facebook, Myspace, etc. only at like 1% or barely 1% EACH... everybody else only has like .0001% internet infrastructure... Google is Huge and will monopolize everything in like 50 years...
this is great...so true..i agree its still a ways away...google is gonna rule the world...they know more about you then you know about yourself...they probably will mail you a little box for free that hooks up to a monitor that gives you everything you want in a computer but its in a cloud...here comes the day were you will NEVER hear or see an advertisement that wont be about the thing you want most at that second...the collapse from technology is aproaching
I'm suprised they diden't mention play station or xbox 360. like the smart phone they also have an o.s. that play's movies, games but also you can go on the web and look shit up. chat with yer friends save scores and dl other games. but i cant rly see the PC dieing out, even if this so called 'future OS' kicks in full.
Without a doubt it will be cloud based. Google Chrome OS is supposed to be files to connect to the Internet for everything, not just your everyday browsing. It's as cool as thinking about Holographic TV if that happens you would be involved and I think that is the best part about anything really.
The future of computing will be the same as using interactive TV, a convergence devolution back into the mainframe-dumb terminal, I'd say at least 10 years away. I've noticed here in Ireland that small to medium sized business are ditching the LAN and connecting to the cloud to store all their customer info etc, the LAN is disappearing, there will be a future for the PAN (Personal Area Network) though. Interactive TV is the best reference now, to see the future.
Thats going to limit our freedom over the internet if that ever happens. I seriously doubt this is going to happen anytime soon. The internet will be no more if that happens. Thats just an opportunity for corporations to commercialize the whole net.
There would be some sort of completely stripped down, or basic operating system that would connect you to the internet. Once you're on, you would login to your Operating system online. ^_^
They can put the Sun where the cloud dosen't shine. Or maybe it's the other way around. lol I'll alawys keep a software based O.S wheather it will connect to there Fruit loop net or not.
There is a platform for every device, yet we are becoming a more open minded community so when Microsoft puts limits in there software it no longer goes unnoticed nor does our freedom and the fact that our right to do what we want when we want on our computers is being taken away on a Microsoft OS, hence OpenSource is the last stance and is the future for our our digital freedom. Who the hell is going to buy the stuff your talking about with the power of open source freedom
5 years or less, no way, I agree. Honestly I don't think local storage and execution is going away any time soon. You have to take into account mobility, and how that is progressing now, like embedded OS like you mentioned. The reliability of a data connection to cloud servers through intermediate servers to hop through isn't good enough to run an OS. With the lowering cost of hardware, we might not ever need a cloud OS; remote storage maybe, remote execution is only logical for mobile app.
I like Google Chrome, but believe me, Google Chrome OS is a damn bloody shit! My data is not in my hands, all my data is extremely confidential, so why would I hand it over to some cloud computing Google FREAKS!!
This Chris guy is a spastic. You need a OS to bring up the hardware, be it in a PROM or whatever, you need to bring up the hardware into a known state. Also, the network bandwidth is becoming less of a problem with raw processing power and compression algorithms and binary diff algorithms.
Linux is a sh** kernel, if you know anything about code. Take a look at DragonflyBSD!
Operating System is dead ?? HAHAHA.. Thats a good one.. And in my opinion people will ALWAYS want their OWN OS on THEIR PC not in the cloud.. Would you trust YOUR files on a server in Keiv or Madrid or New York or Dublin ?? I DON'T THINK SO ! Install Solaris and stop this stupid debate.
The point where this guy loses me is early on in the bit where he demonstrates he simply has no clue what an Operating Systrem actually consists of. Both of these speakers basically don't know what they're on about. This is naive opinion, not informed by many important facts.
As I write this comment, the video we watched is 2 1/2 years old. We know the future of the OS exists on the internet. Questions were will Google or Linux be the leader in this. Now I will ask, how will Facebook fair and for experts, what is the current tech view of clouds? I think much has changed since this video.
As I write this comment, the video we watched is 2 1/2 years old. We know the future of the OS exists on the internet. Questions were will Google or Linux be the leader in this. Now I will ask, how will Facebook fair and for experts, what is the current tech view of clouds? I think much has changed since this video.
very slow i had my fiber line in back in 06 2010 now and they only just started making ad's for fiber optics its silly, hopfully google can pull this off with the 1GB speeds.
The population doesn't need a local o/s to use "the computer" because they will linked to "the cloud computer". They need a screen, some input and output devices, and a network to do their processing, storage and communication on. The local o/s will be defeated by "the cloud computer".
@MrJoeMontano basically its for those who arent extremly into computers ahaha its about uniting the masses more than anything. if you are really into computers youll be the one running the freaking server from your house. :P
@MrJoeMontano the purpose of having an os is to facilitate communication between the user and the machine as well as manage the internal tasks of the computer. why not have these services in a central, secure location which follows you to whatever machine you are on?
@nofaithchild This is the most retarded idea ever. The minute you give up your PERSONAL COMPUTER and switch to some cloud or integrated service is the minute you give up the Internet and all the freedom it has offered and change it into another monopoly like when the radio was invented and when the television was invented. Wake up this is just another scheme to make money. It wont revolutionize anything and it wont make you some super human. Please I respectfully ask you to look deeper.
@MrJoeMontano It might. Look at what the technologies do now days. They are becoming more and more wireless. The speeds of internet are getting faster around the world. People upload massive amount of files online. A lot of softwares can be actually put online for use. For example like google apps. Small things are the spark. You never know what the future operating system might be.
What a stupid idea. Streaming anything extra, that does not need to be streamed, is just plain stupid. If this goes through, it is nothing more then a $CHEME. Why would WE want our OS to be removed from our PCs, for an online one. For example. I bought my friend a game for Christmas. In order to play, he has to register online. No online = no gameplay, even though the game is not an online game. I'm sure companies don't like to see lost customers.? <This is where I see this heading.
Just remember it is all still up in the air at the moment and there is no definitive idea of how this system would or could work. Your belief that it will be completely subscription based is quite possible however it is not necessarily how Cloud Computing will work. This is a concept that could work well. Take for example if there was no on going subscription and the cloud was used to hold apps and an os and your box held all the data you saved. I can't see anything wrong with that concept.
I understand, and respect your explanation, however; here's the problem with that particular possible out-come. The concept you describe would STILL require an internet subscription to modify or use your personal data. If (said ISP) did not allow you service - you'd have NO OS (the basic instruction used to operate your computer). Thus rendering any personal data useless. It's puting control of your personal activities in the hands of corporate America. I don't want that!!!...
Yeah point taken mate. What I am really referring to is the concept of having an os whether it be 7 or OS X or Linux but instead of using precious hard drive space with apps you purchase or as you say subscribe online for the apps but have the choice to retain you data say a word doc for example on your own pc or mac. I do not agree with the concept of a basic box that is just a portal to the web and if the concept your talking about is how it all ends up then yes I am scared. cheers mate
streaming an os on the Internet will be the future but not for all people
a stable operating system is always going to be needed for other things either than the Internet its an aright concept but its thought up with the wrong fundamentals ..think about it one hacker could mess up alot of peoples lives dnt make it easier for them!
If they make everything into the cloud Our Privacy will be gone forever!! your computer will be going to a 3rd party corporal company / goverment (google) all your information banking details documents, photos. what if a global failure happens, telecommunications go down! what then, it will happen just a matter of time! what is this world heading too?
Google is very good in html & php but not asm so get the F@ck out of operating systems and give us more privacy. Damn ...
Recently i've created an e-mail on google and it asked my mobile phone number for verification ... WTF ???
They are like China growing and growing until they will rule the world cause they will hold all private information on their servers witch will be offered for sure cause remember nothing is uncrackable ...
@masterchief497 wtf are you talking about ...Please give me a break !!! I am a web developer , right now i own 4 websites up and online so allow me to know something more about browsers and their functions ...
P.S. I am sure when you read this comment you will not be using Chrome Browser ...
Everyone reading this comment : If you are using chrome browser thumbs down me otherwise thumbs up me ... (Just a poll)
@RAZcracK your right but chrome browser is fast and its usually what i use but it does have alot of problems. its not something you should be using as your primary browser. its not a total fail its more of a casual thing. also im not sure about a Google OS B/C Ive never used it but i assume negatively based on their browser.
Cloud computing... Very real idea, that will be implemented in near future. More computers linked together, more computing power. CERN and LHC does that today. The problem is if you put the OS on the Internet and not in your computer, what happens when you are out of coverege area, and you have no signal? Simple! Your computer will stop functioning! So my point is that the OS will allways stay on the computer, but compute in the cloud.
1. limit on bandwidth (until this is no longer an issue)
2. balance between cloud and local computing. Furthur more who can achieve the best by bringing out the positives to cloud and local computing while limiting the negitives of local and cloud computing.
At the end of the day do I want someone like google (or who ever) holding all my data, control, and knowledge?
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PS i disable the sounds in windows, they are annoying
they are correct. the only reason that they have newer os's then dos is gaming. now with systems like on-live gaming can be done over a cloud, so there is almost no need for modern operating systems since most other tasks can go online like music players, word editors, and even photo editing
Even as we get closer to getting fibre into every home, would that still be enough bandwidth to "boot your OS from the internet"? I wonder how much bandwidth you would need to boot your OS from the internet..
Ok. You aren't going to boot your OS from the internet. You will interface with your processor over the internet. Your connection will send input and your monitor will recieve output like on a cable channel. Their will be citywide or regional mainframes. This is what will happen, because people don't care about privacy. Personally I find the idea appalling. When I am not using the internet I want it off so people can't steal my ideas, invade my privacy, government rooting out dissidents
(continued from below) --- etc. Maybe you will upload a browser but thats it. Look. Imagine every word document, spreadsheet, data plot... whatever, that you author being stored in public. Every time you interact with software it is observed. If you play command and conquer your strategy will be observable by Uncle Sam. You name it. It is complete insanity. I DEMAND local storage, processing and the ability to DISCONNECT at will.
Very good points Rcbquark. I've never actually thought about it from that stand point. It seems like that would almost be a hackers dream to have everything sent over the net.
don't know what the downrating is for.... eventually, everyone will have to connect to the internet to boot their computer beyond bios, but by that same token, security will improve much in that time frame. unfortunately, data loss will never be stopped.
oh, no, even better, there will be virtual hards drives, with unlimited space, and you can access them any where in the world, some thing like that, but yeah i like ssd's kinda pricey
But the cool thing about Cloud Computing is that YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER DYING. You can leave it on all the time, at the same overpriced monthly expense that Google charges you.
this will kill bandwidth as you need more because your streaming all the time. the internet company will end up charging you for your files its not a good idea why move everything online. whats the good side of that. i would say lets try to get everybody on solid state drives first then things will be faster.
The OS was developed to allow more than one program to run on a single processor at a a time - cpu cycles were distributed between programs, content generated and viewed locally. With the cloud, most of those content generation cpu cycles have moved out into the cloud leaving the work of the OS to merely render streams of data from the cloud. Most just need a screen for visual and xport system for key presses and mouse moves-the IPhone. Fiber is immaterial-wireless will dominate.
Lol, I say cloud computing may be 10 years from now, maybe even more... but look Japan has even looked into having a personal computer in a pen... A FRIGGIN PEN! -which is kinda cool and all- But to the real topic at hand... I'm against cloud computing because I mean hackers... That's a risk... Unless they make a super uber unhackable embedded code then... No, then... your Privacy is limited, as if it isn't enough already... Bye-bye torrents and illegally downloaded music.
Guyz, OS exists as specialized development platform to speed up development. But cloud computing is the future. Every home's TV will be the interacting window to the external world, with cloud computing as OS platform.
I don't think people will buy into this, I wouldn't. Too many "what ifs", what if the particular server that stores your files goes down? It would also make your files much more open to spies AKA "big brother" like Google, Microsoft, and the seriously corrupt NSA. Hell I live near RAF Menwith Hill - one of the biggest spy bases in the world of which is actually controlled by the NSA and is tide up in an Industrial espagne case involving Boeing and Airbus. People want control over their privacy.
whatever the guy on the phone said this guy was against because of his ego ultimately, the guy on the phone said we will have unlimited bandwidth and two years later we do this this was saying 10 years loll, remember technology is growing exponentially, and people need to understand that
whatever the guy on the phone said this guy was against because of his ego ultimately, the guy on the phone said we will have unlimited bandwidth and two years later we do this this was saying 10 years loll, remember technology is growing exponentially, and people need to understand that
the guy on the phone is right, and i think ignorant and none innovative people should keep their comments to themselves and not slow down the progress as its moving fast, this video was made in 2007 now its 2009 and we already have fiber optics to pretty much everyones house and if they dont they will get it very soon
Cloud computing is dangerous! Look guys, Internet 2 is coming and it's not pretty. The point is to take away your freedom of YOUR hard drive space. Just look at what windows has done. Huge wide open back door for Microsoft to come in and dictate what your computer needs. Apple has done the same thing. Cloud computing only takes more freedoms away and leaves your experience to the mercy of some company. You illegally download music, you lose hard drive space or ram as punishment.
Left brained people are protocol driven. It is in their nature. If russian whores macquarading as good wives stop calling me I'm all for it. America seems to think that everyone is like them. The future is wireless
Seems like the cloud will only work with new users. Those familiar with having their own computer, not so much. I installed a cloud server for eyeos and now what? Who would use it? I have a eeepc with ubuntu on it with an 2gb of file space. I cab ssh to another computer for storage. It just seems the cloud will benefit the computer illiterate and companies looking to fire IT people. I mean I'm just saying.....
Trollinista 5 months ago
ALL THUMB S UP! the basics! b$ 4 ... use YOUR OLD software! b$ 4hacking = TRACKING!
PlanetEarthSupport 6 months ago
ALL THUMB S UP!
PlanetEarthSupport 6 months ago
Right now we are using Internet 1
this is Internet as we know it!
Internet 2 is slow phase to HI-Jack the internet CLOUD COMPUTING! Microsoft is trying to sell this, DON"T BUY IT!! Unless you want to just through your computer out the window! You will now hear this term more and more! It is a internet monopoly! Look up “ Internet 2” on youtube Major Internet companies are Lobbying w/google spread the word GOOGLE AND Other Servers will take our entire free internet away! You've been Warned!
barrettarq 7 months ago
@barrettarq, Internet 2 is the same but faster and is due to the fact that there are to many flaws to the old one. Hackers are disrupting networking for buisnesses so blame them for the change. It will be more secure and will work like a new OS and then eventually get bogged down with hackers because if someone knows how to use something they will find a way around stuff! lol
It will take a while to put in place so don't worry just yet!
WakkieRob1 6 months ago
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barrettarq 6 months ago
@WakkieRob1 That is what they want you to think.... every time the government want you to surrender your rights to their given securities... they have something up their sleeves like this, to make most people vulnerable and put the blame on hackers etc... this is why steve jobs, eric schmitt, and bill gates attend the "bilderberg meeting" in Switzerland and in past bilderberg events! it is in plain view! look at all the evidence at "PayForFreedom .(COM"
barrettarq 6 months ago
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@WakkieRob1 That is what they want you to think.... every time the government want you to surrender your rights to their blinding securities... they have something up their sleeves like this, to make most people vulnerable and put the blame on hackers etc... this is why steve jobs, eric schmitt, and bill gates attend the "bilderberg meeting" in Switzerland and in past bilderberg events! it is in plain view! look at all the evidence at "PayForFreedom .(COM"
barrettarq 6 months ago
The next big trend sounds nebulous, but it's not so fuzzy when you view the value proposition from the perspective of IT professionals. Cloud computing is at an early stage, with a motley crew of providers large and small delivering a slew of cloud-based services, Check the Nick Carr's video on The Clouds Roll in: An Afterword to Nick Carr's Book The Big Switch
gisselesmith 8 months ago
Google chromebooks.
indiecarlos 8 months ago
your an irish idiot!!!
the glitter of an operating system is what makes it an intuitive interface....this is why apple and microsoft are billionaires and not you.
sorr535771 8 months ago
Well, he was right. We are streaming videos and TV over the internet today in high definition. Check out zattoo. The browser is the killer application.
bhigr 9 months ago
As I'm adjusting materials and lights using Autodesk Maya software along with the Vray for Maya renderer, the software is "path tracing" the scene using every single available CPU core (doesn't matter how many cores, it's 100% utilization nonstop). 3D work also generates hundreds of GB of data. A typical production scene renders on the command line with over 32 GB of RAM usage; it can be much higher if the scene is more detailed. The system resources are mine and I know how they're being used.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
I'm completely against this "centralized outsourcing of computing resources", and I'm in general against things that take away control from myself. All of my data is on my own personal hard drives. Those files are MINE and don't belong to a corporation. Plus due to the amount of data I work with, it has to be local and in my control. Relying on the local power plant is enough, I don't want to rely additionally on some satellite in a high orbit just to do even the most basic computer tasks.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
Accessing your files and programs from a remote machine to a home server is fine. I like this and have no problem with it, but to be FORCED to rely on hundreds of lines of cabling then all of a sudden a huge earthquake in some remote country might destroy the servers you're relying on? This is just 1 out of millions of examples of why cloud computing is a bad idea; it creates a "single point of failure" not just for me but for (possibly) millions of other people.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
I think cloud computing is the worst idea ever to come along in technology; sure it's great for some things. A corporation centralizing it's workers tasks, I get that, but for the whole worldwide community, including home users? Worst idea ever. First off, I'm in control of my system (or the local network of systems when they're batch processing some tasks), I know exactly the resources being used and am able to dynamically allocate resources while tasks are running.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
In my line of work, 3D animation and 3D rendering, a 48-core server is easily at 100% (not sorta 100%) for weeks (24/7, no downtime) as it's processing the data of a project into 32-bit floating point precision image files. Oh and each 2048x1152 frame contains about 150 MB of data so a 2 minute animation easily gets into the hundreds of GB range. This is not counting the hundreds of other GB for the project itself. Now let me tell you what I think about cloud computing.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
Personally, I like having local hardware and software.
LtSurge659 9 months ago
Plus. I personally think things like smartphones streaming through major network is a step towards a mass information exchange. Everything has to contribute basically. Social network website are contributing to this factor also.
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deanniejr 9 months ago
that guy talkin to chris is an idiot, steaming doesnt need large bandwith LOL
MD26031994 11 months ago
all i know is that i'm allergic to slim jims.......
BlackSupraC2 11 months ago
ok that part at the end upset me. when he started talking about filestreams i could tell he barely understood what he has talking about.
yes all file io is stream based,its a stream going from your hard drive to your memory, and yes you can turn that into a stream going from an online source to your computer,but no you cannot just use them interchangeably.
to understand why he is wrong i shall first touch up on the latency hierarchy of your computer.the slowest thing in your OS is your hdd(cont)
tuseroni 11 months ago
(cont) after that comes your ram, then your cpu cache. the cpu cache is the fastest memory available. from the computer's prospective its waiting for some time on the ram, and if it could do everything from cpu cache it would. the next slowest, your memory. this is for things that dont fit in the cache. usually the cache will have a pointer to some point in memory to get the rest of it. the bulk of your variables are here.
then your hdd, the slow beast which is only good for persistance memory
tuseroni 11 months ago
(cont) and storage of things not being used right now. important stuff isnt put here. file streams are used because this is too slow to just load straight into memory.
now the cloud adds another layer of slow memory much lower than the hard drive. and no amount of improvements to internet speed will get past this simple truth you are limited by the laws of physics. until you can make an internet that works on quantum entanglement, the cloud will always be the slowest memory possible.
tuseroni 11 months ago
@tuseroni You said it. Finally someone who knows what they're talking about and realizes how idiotic the idea is of "globalizing cloud computing" for even the most basic of tasks a local system needs to be doing for the user in control; you. Relying on a SATA2 cable with average transfer rates of about 150 MB on a decent hard drive is already slow enough, but "the cloud" would never be as fast as a typical hard drive. It would be worse than a system running a full page file with no real memory.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
(cont) now imagine your os needed some important file and it had to grab from this slow medium. its already slow just grabbing from the hard drive now it has to move over this slower medium and wait to get it before it can proceed to the next thing, which may be getting another file, or making a change.
you can do a lot in parallel but some problems demand a serial solution. and the OS especially needs serial solutions.
tuseroni 11 months ago
@tuseroni This is highly unlike cloud computing in which systems are shared and in one instance you might have less system resources than later; productivity can't be estimated (for example, you might prepare to work again the next day on your 3D scene that requires about 40 GB of RAM to edit and is now refusing to load because "the cloud" is busy tonight and you've been allocated far less memory". This is one reason why all my work is LOCAL and I won't have it any other way.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
(cont) it needs to know that your printer drivers are installed BEFORE it checks the state of the printer for instance. the hard drive is a MUST.most your OS stuff should be in ram honestly,if not ram at least on a hard drive. not out in the cloud.
now there is something for having it automatically backed up in the cloud, when i make a web application i put things into memory and keep interaction with the internet to a minimum. most stuff is done on the client side and only backups happen online
tuseroni 11 months ago
@tuseroni They say "in the cloud" as if cloud computing is the best thing in computer science since the transistor. Cloud computing is fine for a corporate environment, but not at all for home users as an OS. I have a feeling people who really don't use the computer for more than internet browsing understand why cloud computing is a horrible idea; it's fine for email and certain other things through an internet browser, but to do away with the OS as we know it? How could anyone endorse that?
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
(cont) and that is generally the way one MUST do such things. the internet is not reliable, it could get cut off for some reason, is could be going slow, someone else could be stealing the bandwidth. it could get cut off in the middle of a transfer. you have to account for these things and simply pushing file streams to internet streams is just silly. there is a place for the cloud, but it is not anything CLOSE to a replacement for local files on a local machine.
/rant
tuseroni 11 months ago
@tuseroni Not only is the internet unreliable, but even worse, a cloud server cluster would be a single point of failure for potentially millions of people. I do 3D animation and 3D rendering; each project consumes around 500 GB of disk space, and a 48-core server is easily at 100% CPU utilization nonstop for weeks (24/7) as the full HD frames are rendered, generating hundreds of more GB. It's all local too, I would NEVER do what I do relying entirely on remote systems.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
True. I would prefer to have an operating system and not a "cloud" computer.
WindowsVideoArchive 1 year ago
i think every operating system windows or any is bullshit it should be the Basic in a operating system not to put any off there bullshit in it like media player r movie maker or whatever it should be on the user to put what he want they should just make it as a Basic operating system and let the user put what he like
hexpass 1 year ago
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Cloud computing is euphemism for anti-piracy prevention. That is why it is time to give up movies, app, music, and books that are for profit. You have to switch to open source sooner or later. It is time we look for supposedly free or cheaper means of entertainment. Moreover, if you don't have an internet connection or have a slow internet connection like I do, then you're screwed. xD
pspecho 1 year ago
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pspecho 1 year ago
Google os = NWO
danguy2009 1 year ago
There are a few pros to this idea, I think... But for me the cons are WAY too many, and much too harsh. I like to have my data, and my harddrive full of it sitting right next to me, safe in my computer. If I need to, I could still unplug my internet and not have my computer freeze up.
Using an O/S that's being hosted online will be a big bottleneck. I agree with Chris, 10-20 years before the internet can even be up to par enough to give us a responsive O/S. I wont be using it though. ^_^
Blivia 1 year ago
@Blivia said "here are a few pros to this idea, I think... But for me the cons are WAY too many, and much too harsh. I like to have my data, and my harddrive full of it sitting right next to me, safe in my computer. If I need to, I could still unplug my internet and not have my computer freeze up." That pretty much sums up the cloud computing thing. I myself work with a lot of data and it's nice to know it's not sitting in a remote server cluster in a far off country; it's right here.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
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@Blivia said "here are a few pros to this idea, I think... But for me the cons are WAY too many, and much too harsh. I like to have my data, and my harddrive full of it sitting right next to me, safe in my computer. If I need to, I could still unplug my internet and not have my computer freeze up." That pretty much sums up the cloud computing thing. I myself work with a lot of data and it's nice to know it's not sitting in a remote server cluster in a far off country; it's right here.
SolsticeHalcyon 9 months ago
cloudshare is powered by VMware vSphere I know because it crashed on my computer, and the vmWare logo popped up on the screen. This means anyone could make a cloud server. Anyone that wants cloud computing as the future as a home uses is crazy. Most software hacks , keygen ... and so on ask that you disconnect the internet , and this means say good by to pirated software, and games... You can't disconnect the internet if everything is on the internet.
maw88ify 1 year ago
F*ck cloud computing, people need to be responsible for their own data and info and keep a physical artifact of this in their homes and offices.... why make your entire stuff online? its become that much easier to be a victim of hacking.
OBSysteme 1 year ago 2
glits and flashiness works for the first week when you get a computer, then you are used to the looks and you start getting annoyed about speed-times and other problems ...
I for one, miss crash-proof Ms-Dos.
OBSysteme 1 year ago
An OS on the cloud will be a hype for maybe a couple of years, but then everybody will run back to the on disk OS, because NOBODY will want to have their personal stuff on someone Else's computer....
hectorae86 1 year ago
@hectorae86 Furthermore, I am a Microsoft Certified Programmer, so i know a good deal about making programs (not only in windows).
To build a program in Visual Basic, C# C++ or whatever language, at LEAST 80% of your program, is already in Windows, otherwise you'd have to make every single button or form all from scratch.
That said, how am I gonna make programs for Google Chrome OS ?(for example) that's right, I won't, there will be no market for 3rd party software, or at least not a big one.
hectorae86 1 year ago
CLOUD = SLAVERY
PC = Personal Control
JesusManson323 1 year ago
If Window 7 could boot in 7 sec. or less than google will have nothing to worry about.
But it is true, I have most of my Residential Customers do nothing more than Start their Windows machines wait 2-5 min. only to click on Google Chrome to surf the web. I do feel that we are moving to an online OS soon. But if Windows can't give us a boot to internet in 7-10 seconds then they will loose the Consumer Market.
themachinedoctor 1 year ago
I want and am waiting for cloud computing! IT IS the future. by the way ur local machine is not that secure as is..enterprises have or can have far greater security measures then you and i can afford.
trufiend138 1 year ago
If the operating system is run completely from the cloud, then your systems specs wouldn't matter. If you had a smart phone with say a 4g connection, you'd be able to work in a PC or Mac environment through the cloud.
Internet connectivity would be the main varying factor. Bandwidth is the future of computing! The faster your connection the more speed for computing.
In my opinion it's a double sided blade.
lilparadise1989 1 year ago
If everything is to be done from a central computer ... a single infected USB virus would blow your entire system away
comebackata2 1 year ago
unix was the first cloud OS
nofaithchild 1 year ago
Cloud computing is for computers that need to be deployed on a large scale and where a normal computer hardware investment for an organization is too huge.
Cloud computing can help businesses!.. So you dumb farts who have no idea of the application of Cloud Computing can just shut the FUCK UP.
megadeath8317 1 year ago
@megadeath8317 Cloud computing has already been going on it is just hosting with another name. That name is pay for what you use. So basically we give you a server and that server is hooked to the net duh...and we monitor how much it gets used. Cloud computing isn't bad, but if they try and lock it down some how like Comcast is then it is not freedom its a monopoly and I think that is what everyone is worried about. We love the internet as it is. What is the current problem with the net?
KingGoddard 1 year ago
@KingGoddard Cloud computing is too far for home users with a good computer and internet. There's no need for cloud computing at home.. Cloud computing is being targeted at markets where people cannot afford good computer hardware.. For example, small institutions, non-profit organizations, villages and such.. Cloud computing will certainly benefit these markets. Its how a good eco system can be built with all providers.
megadeath8317 1 year ago
i will never turn to cloud computing never.
rdavian 1 year ago
@rdavian youre on youtube right now eh? thats a cloud os. boo yah.
nofaithchild 1 year ago
I hate when people talk out of their ass about thingsthey know nothing about.
baeritukaez 1 year ago
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Cloud Computing will be the next step to "BIG BROTHER" where you no longer own your own independent PC, but will be part of a "WORLD WIDE" network owned and controlled by one corporate entity. And we all know what corporation backed government means! Watch the 1970 movie "Colossus: The Forbin Project" to get a better idea! (Computer takes over the world)
One world Govt. where all worldwide computers are hooked up to one Main computer! Camera's will be next! As Prophesied: Revelation 13:15-16
Acecool444 1 year ago
I wonder if the bozo on the phone knows that you can run the OS strictly text based if he doesn't like the GUI. The big downside to Cloud OS is that if you don't have the internet or any way to get onto it via a wifi adapter etc, then you're screwed. or if the net is slow, then your 'computer' is slow etc. I'd rather not put my rig that close to the source of greyware and hacking a holes. I'll stick with a Hard drive based OS thanks
experimental0000 1 year ago
Google has more infrastructure(such as server racks) dedicated for the internet than any other company... Google own like 3% of the internet infrastructure worldwide with like Yahoo, Facebook, Myspace, etc. only at like 1% or barely 1% EACH... everybody else only has like .0001% internet infrastructure... Google is Huge and will monopolize everything in like 50 years...
ChucklesNuts 1 year ago
This Irish ejit loves the sound of his own voice .... 'if you got nothing to say ..... ""SAY IT LOUD"""
adrianshaw1 1 year ago
Google ChromeOS
AtheosPhyve 1 year ago
Internet for 15 GBP a month, streaming HD Movies...
Video is old less than 3 years :-)
TheNeurall 1 year ago
once they start implanting rfid tags in our wrists at birth, we'll be able to walk up to any info-hub and stream our desktop
o0smokingmonk0o 1 year ago
does he even know what the fuck he's talking about?
xgunwingx 1 year ago
this is great...so true..i agree its still a ways away...google is gonna rule the world...they know more about you then you know about yourself...they probably will mail you a little box for free that hooks up to a monitor that gives you everything you want in a computer but its in a cloud...here comes the day were you will NEVER hear or see an advertisement that wont be about the thing you want most at that second...the collapse from technology is aproaching
mow4cash 1 year ago
isnt the isp compays running out ip's?
IsSadistic 1 year ago
I'm suprised they diden't mention play station or xbox 360. like the smart phone they also have an o.s. that play's movies, games but also you can go on the web and look shit up. chat with yer friends save scores and dl other games. but i cant rly see the PC dieing out, even if this so called 'future OS' kicks in full.
Bugeyemafia 1 year ago
I don't think I would like not having the data on my pc!!!
Zeric666 1 year ago
Without a doubt it will be cloud based. Google Chrome OS is supposed to be files to connect to the Internet for everything, not just your everyday browsing. It's as cool as thinking about Holographic TV if that happens you would be involved and I think that is the best part about anything really.
MichealProductions 1 year ago
The future of computing will be the same as using interactive TV, a convergence devolution back into the mainframe-dumb terminal, I'd say at least 10 years away. I've noticed here in Ireland that small to medium sized business are ditching the LAN and connecting to the cloud to store all their customer info etc, the LAN is disappearing, there will be a future for the PAN (Personal Area Network) though. Interactive TV is the best reference now, to see the future.
javonoUTube 1 year ago
& moreovr in India,d speed of net is not more dan 512kbps for norml users...hw m i goin' 2 play my fav. games & multitask simul.!!![:(]
supermanreturnsvip 1 year ago
I'll tell you what. For my part, I will stop using computers all together if it goes completely cloud base.
gman987987 1 year ago
Thats going to limit our freedom over the internet if that ever happens. I seriously doubt this is going to happen anytime soon. The internet will be no more if that happens. Thats just an opportunity for corporations to commercialize the whole net.
Changeisgood12 1 year ago
Wait....Don't you need an Operating System TO use a Web Browser :S
How would they get around that....
xUKRxRaMpAgE 1 year ago
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There would be some sort of completely stripped down, or basic operating system that would connect you to the internet. Once you're on, you would login to your Operating system online. ^_^
Blivia 1 year ago
They can put the Sun where the cloud dosen't shine. Or maybe it's the other way around. lol I'll alawys keep a software based O.S wheather it will connect to there Fruit loop net or not.
NCAstronut 1 year ago
There is a platform for every device, yet we are becoming a more open minded community so when Microsoft puts limits in there software it no longer goes unnoticed nor does our freedom and the fact that our right to do what we want when we want on our computers is being taken away on a Microsoft OS, hence OpenSource is the last stance and is the future for our our digital freedom. Who the hell is going to buy the stuff your talking about with the power of open source freedom
fireicer 1 year ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS TOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOW
NO ONLINE
KEEP OS ON PC
WINDOWS , LINEX, MAC OSX
THIS WILL NOT GO WILL
TecWizKid 1 year ago
at the end the day i want a finished beautiful os that works
hello1234172 1 year ago
5 years or less, no way, I agree. Honestly I don't think local storage and execution is going away any time soon. You have to take into account mobility, and how that is progressing now, like embedded OS like you mentioned. The reliability of a data connection to cloud servers through intermediate servers to hop through isn't good enough to run an OS. With the lowering cost of hardware, we might not ever need a cloud OS; remote storage maybe, remote execution is only logical for mobile app.
sinephase 1 year ago
the irish guy was right!!!!
dennis3380 1 year ago
i think so this will be happen soon may be google do so or any other company
it is more better if all this will be in more people hand
saboorgee 1 year ago
I like Google Chrome, but believe me, Google Chrome OS is a damn bloody shit! My data is not in my hands, all my data is extremely confidential, so why would I hand it over to some cloud computing Google FREAKS!!
Really it sucks....
Linux is better than Google OS!
hassanalvi1989 1 year ago
Cloud Computing is very powerful!
EnterpriseOasis 1 year ago
This Chris guy is a spastic. You need a OS to bring up the hardware, be it in a PROM or whatever, you need to bring up the hardware into a known state. Also, the network bandwidth is becoming less of a problem with raw processing power and compression algorithms and binary diff algorithms.
Linux is a sh** kernel, if you know anything about code. Take a look at DragonflyBSD!
solaris10user 1 year ago
Operating System is dead ?? HAHAHA.. Thats a good one.. And in my opinion people will ALWAYS want their OWN OS on THEIR PC not in the cloud.. Would you trust YOUR files on a server in Keiv or Madrid or New York or Dublin ?? I DON'T THINK SO ! Install Solaris and stop this stupid debate.
damoos 1 year ago
The point where this guy loses me is early on in the bit where he demonstrates he simply has no clue what an Operating Systrem actually consists of. Both of these speakers basically don't know what they're on about. This is naive opinion, not informed by many important facts.
vapourmile 1 year ago
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As I write this comment, the video we watched is 2 1/2 years old. We know the future of the OS exists on the internet. Questions were will Google or Linux be the leader in this. Now I will ask, how will Facebook fair and for experts, what is the current tech view of clouds? I think much has changed since this video.
ecofma 1 year ago
As I write this comment, the video we watched is 2 1/2 years old. We know the future of the OS exists on the internet. Questions were will Google or Linux be the leader in this. Now I will ask, how will Facebook fair and for experts, what is the current tech view of clouds? I think much has changed since this video.
ecofma 1 year ago
very slow i had my fiber line in back in 06 2010 now and they only just started making ad's for fiber optics its silly, hopfully google can pull this off with the 1GB speeds.
jaycob619 1 year ago
so chris, what about Chrome OS?
You are right about Google, and He is right about linux because chrome OS is based on linux
Nazmus1992 1 year ago
why would people want the operating system online? That would defeat the purpose of having an operating system
MrJoeMontano 1 year ago 12
@MrJoeMontano And if it's online why not have everything (RAM, CPU...) online and use an account to access it.
We have computers, let's not go "Cloud".
Musiphone 1 year ago
The population doesn't need a local o/s to use "the computer" because they will linked to "the cloud computer". They need a screen, some input and output devices, and a network to do their processing, storage and communication on. The local o/s will be defeated by "the cloud computer".
bartledooo 1 year ago
@MrJoeMontano basically its for those who arent extremly into computers ahaha its about uniting the masses more than anything. if you are really into computers youll be the one running the freaking server from your house. :P
luk33 1 year ago
@MrJoeMontano the purpose of having an os is to facilitate communication between the user and the machine as well as manage the internal tasks of the computer. why not have these services in a central, secure location which follows you to whatever machine you are on?
nofaithchild 1 year ago
@nofaithchild This is the most retarded idea ever. The minute you give up your PERSONAL COMPUTER and switch to some cloud or integrated service is the minute you give up the Internet and all the freedom it has offered and change it into another monopoly like when the radio was invented and when the television was invented. Wake up this is just another scheme to make money. It wont revolutionize anything and it wont make you some super human. Please I respectfully ask you to look deeper.
KingGoddard 1 year ago
@MrJoeMontano True, true. And what about computer gaming?
WindowsVideoArchive 1 year ago
@WindowsVideoArchive see onlive gaming system
nofaithchild 1 year ago
@MrJoeMontano It might. Look at what the technologies do now days. They are becoming more and more wireless. The speeds of internet are getting faster around the world. People upload massive amount of files online. A lot of softwares can be actually put online for use. For example like google apps. Small things are the spark. You never know what the future operating system might be.
blo0magic 9 months ago
What a stupid idea. Streaming anything extra, that does not need to be streamed, is just plain stupid. If this goes through, it is nothing more then a $CHEME. Why would WE want our OS to be removed from our PCs, for an online one. For example. I bought my friend a game for Christmas. In order to play, he has to register online. No online = no gameplay, even though the game is not an online game. I'm sure companies don't like to see lost customers.? <This is where I see this heading.
ThisAvatar 2 years ago
choke on ur nuts irish man!!!
Dmonkey2132 2 years ago
before this can really happen the whole worlds needs to be online
gtaviper 2 years ago
A total move to Cloud Computing is NOT a good thing. Check out my video on Cloud Computing - why it is a BAD idea.
VideoGuyNC 2 years ago
Just remember it is all still up in the air at the moment and there is no definitive idea of how this system would or could work. Your belief that it will be completely subscription based is quite possible however it is not necessarily how Cloud Computing will work. This is a concept that could work well. Take for example if there was no on going subscription and the cloud was used to hold apps and an os and your box held all the data you saved. I can't see anything wrong with that concept.
adamonthetube 2 years ago
I understand, and respect your explanation, however; here's the problem with that particular possible out-come. The concept you describe would STILL require an internet subscription to modify or use your personal data. If (said ISP) did not allow you service - you'd have NO OS (the basic instruction used to operate your computer). Thus rendering any personal data useless. It's puting control of your personal activities in the hands of corporate America. I don't want that!!!...
VideoGuyNC 2 years ago
Yeah point taken mate. What I am really referring to is the concept of having an os whether it be 7 or OS X or Linux but instead of using precious hard drive space with apps you purchase or as you say subscribe online for the apps but have the choice to retain you data say a word doc for example on your own pc or mac. I do not agree with the concept of a basic box that is just a portal to the web and if the concept your talking about is how it all ends up then yes I am scared. cheers mate
adamonthetube 2 years ago
hes irish yeow
saoirselinux 2 years ago
this guy was talking abuot chromeos and basicly it already here..
mykazza 2 years ago
Yea I'v heard pple are using it right now, I'v only heard. I have yet too see for my self..
DuceUtight 2 years ago
Mac OS will never die!!!!!
utubestrong 2 years ago
@utubestrong Mac is already dead but you can't see it cause it makes you blind ...
RAZcracK 2 years ago
streaming an os on the Internet will be the future but not for all people
a stable operating system is always going to be needed for other things either than the Internet its an aright concept but its thought up with the wrong fundamentals ..think about it one hacker could mess up alot of peoples lives dnt make it easier for them!
MACHINEGUN01841 2 years ago
If they make everything into the cloud Our Privacy will be gone forever!! your computer will be going to a 3rd party corporal company / goverment (google) all your information banking details documents, photos. what if a global failure happens, telecommunications go down! what then, it will happen just a matter of time! what is this world heading too?
okomun 2 years ago
Why would you stream everything... thats like unnecessary use of data traffic > thus electricity... download something, use it. simple
inofaith 2 years ago
Chrome OS
yungceezy10 2 years ago
Chrome OS is a big FAIL like their browser ...
Google is very good in html & php but not asm so get the F@ck out of operating systems and give us more privacy. Damn ...
Recently i've created an e-mail on google and it asked my mobile phone number for verification ... WTF ???
They are like China growing and growing until they will rule the world cause they will hold all private information on their servers witch will be offered for sure cause remember nothing is uncrackable ...
RAZcracK 2 years ago 6
@RAZcracK I use G00GL3 CHR0M3, lol.
It's quite good
Musiphone 1 year ago
@RAZcracK lol ever used google chrome?
jrroelle 1 year ago
I've used chrome browser. . . = FAIL
I haven't used chrome OS and i won't cause i refuse to publish and store my personal info.
RAZcracK 1 year ago
@RAZcracK chrome browser is MAJOR WIN!
masterchief497 1 year ago
@masterchief497 wtf are you talking about ...Please give me a break !!! I am a web developer , right now i own 4 websites up and online so allow me to know something more about browsers and their functions ...
P.S. I am sure when you read this comment you will not be using Chrome Browser ...
Everyone reading this comment : If you are using chrome browser thumbs down me otherwise thumbs up me ... (Just a poll)
RAZcracK 1 year ago
@RAZcracK dude, as a web developer, shouldn't you be mad on Microsoft's IE rather than Google's Chrome? Something just doesn't seem right there...
zlajacrnjak20 1 year ago
@RAZcracK your right but chrome browser is fast and its usually what i use but it does have alot of problems. its not something you should be using as your primary browser. its not a total fail its more of a casual thing. also im not sure about a Google OS B/C Ive never used it but i assume negatively based on their browser.
danny6231 1 year ago
yes, exactly... you have it right.... exactly right
horseman9976 2 years ago
Is there a reason why dumb terminals never took off in the 90's?
tripppah 2 years ago
Cloud computing... Very real idea, that will be implemented in near future. More computers linked together, more computing power. CERN and LHC does that today. The problem is if you put the OS on the Internet and not in your computer, what happens when you are out of coverege area, and you have no signal? Simple! Your computer will stop functioning! So my point is that the OS will allways stay on the computer, but compute in the cloud.
raptorbsp 2 years ago
You brought up a valid point.
1. limit on bandwidth (until this is no longer an issue)
2. balance between cloud and local computing. Furthur more who can achieve the best by bringing out the positives to cloud and local computing while limiting the negitives of local and cloud computing.
At the end of the day do I want someone like google (or who ever) holding all my data, control, and knowledge?
cr8tiveaustin 2 years ago
wth? so whats that dude is saying is that he dont want to have sex with a hot girl, but he wants to have sex with a ugky girl? bith have good personality.
PS i disable the sounds in windows, they are annoying
mamba5445 2 years ago
they are correct. the only reason that they have newer os's then dos is gaming. now with systems like on-live gaming can be done over a cloud, so there is almost no need for modern operating systems since most other tasks can go online like music players, word editors, and even photo editing
Sharukh007 2 years ago
Does that guy chris is talking to know that we are on earth?
DJReidak 2 years ago
Even as we get closer to getting fibre into every home, would that still be enough bandwidth to "boot your OS from the internet"? I wonder how much bandwidth you would need to boot your OS from the internet..
sdtarheels 2 years ago 2
Ok. You aren't going to boot your OS from the internet. You will interface with your processor over the internet. Your connection will send input and your monitor will recieve output like on a cable channel. Their will be citywide or regional mainframes. This is what will happen, because people don't care about privacy. Personally I find the idea appalling. When I am not using the internet I want it off so people can't steal my ideas, invade my privacy, government rooting out dissidents
Rcbquark 2 years ago
(continued from below) --- etc. Maybe you will upload a browser but thats it. Look. Imagine every word document, spreadsheet, data plot... whatever, that you author being stored in public. Every time you interact with software it is observed. If you play command and conquer your strategy will be observable by Uncle Sam. You name it. It is complete insanity. I DEMAND local storage, processing and the ability to DISCONNECT at will.
Rcbquark 2 years ago 2
remote desktop nuff said
Rcbquark 2 years ago
Very good points Rcbquark. I've never actually thought about it from that stand point. It seems like that would almost be a hackers dream to have everything sent over the net.
sdtarheels 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This two people - both don't have a clue what they're talking about
cybercow222 2 years ago
i bet they can spell...
"this two people" you dip shit, if your guna be rude, at least do it right! lol
Timotay 2 years ago 2
don't know what the downrating is for.... eventually, everyone will have to connect to the internet to boot their computer beyond bios, but by that same token, security will improve much in that time frame. unfortunately, data loss will never be stopped.
BSODBSODBSOD 2 years ago
one day the hard drive will be obsolete
sako1119 2 years ago
it's called the ssd
laudennn 2 years ago
oh, no, even better, there will be virtual hards drives, with unlimited space, and you can access them any where in the world, some thing like that, but yeah i like ssd's kinda pricey
sako1119 2 years ago
global capatalist, thats a pretty damn clear irish accent pal!
cheers
j2donshker 2 years ago
Fuck Cloud Computing!!!
You'll never take my PC Freedom from me!
v8nman 2 years ago 2
LOL. This Aussie guy was on the money.
globalcapitalist 2 years ago
But the cool thing about Cloud Computing is that YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER DYING. You can leave it on all the time, at the same overpriced monthly expense that Google charges you.
Technoguy3 2 years ago
I honestly think Google will be the first to offer Cloud Computing. And it will become popular.
Technoguy3 2 years ago 2
fucking hell squeaky ass voice!
kruglin 2 years ago
LOL a 3:54 when someone in the chat room says GoogleOS, and pretty soon there is going to be one.
themanthatrocks985 2 years ago 2
there already is one its gOS for short, its not made by google as it says on the website, the one from google is Google Chrome OS
DARKtutorials 2 years ago
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phipsi180 2 years ago
I would hate to wake up every day
and just see a web browser
I think OS are here to stay, some people
may choose the clouds and the clouds will their own use but if you think everything and everyone will be on the cloud you are wrong........
maybe maybe if 1984 finally materializes..
yes we could end up in a dumb dumb cloud until then...........
I think Linux flavors will gain on Ms in the
coming years and MS is going to lose its dominating role..
arapallo 2 years ago
this will kill bandwidth as you need more because your streaming all the time. the internet company will end up charging you for your files its not a good idea why move everything online. whats the good side of that. i would say lets try to get everybody on solid state drives first then things will be faster.
MipoFilms 2 years ago
Good points and ideas.
pcuser152 2 years ago
Look up Michel Foucault and Panopticism and shit yourself. You'll shit yourself.
Dostoidiot 2 years ago
Bye privacy, bye piracy.
IncludeAustin 2 years ago 2
The OS was developed to allow more than one program to run on a single processor at a a time - cpu cycles were distributed between programs, content generated and viewed locally. With the cloud, most of those content generation cpu cycles have moved out into the cloud leaving the work of the OS to merely render streams of data from the cloud. Most just need a screen for visual and xport system for key presses and mouse moves-the IPhone. Fiber is immaterial-wireless will dominate.
linuxguru1968 2 years ago
Lol, I say cloud computing may be 10 years from now, maybe even more... but look Japan has even looked into having a personal computer in a pen... A FRIGGIN PEN! -which is kinda cool and all- But to the real topic at hand... I'm against cloud computing because I mean hackers... That's a risk... Unless they make a super uber unhackable embedded code then... No, then... your Privacy is limited, as if it isn't enough already... Bye-bye torrents and illegally downloaded music.
KakashiMomoto 2 years ago 2
1.) 10 years??? You do know people are using cloud computing as we speak. And have been for a while now. I don't store a single file or mail locally.
2.) What's the difference? They can hack into your home computer too. And they do on regular basics.
People are also too self-important. What data do people think they have that hackers are just dying to get.
JonGretarB 2 years ago
LOL. I know. People are just dying to get their hands on Joe Schmoe's resume and love letter from his girl friend.
globalcapitalist 2 years ago
Ironically you are using cloud computing service saying that it's 10 years from now.
pietrotull 2 years ago
Guyz, OS exists as specialized development platform to speed up development. But cloud computing is the future. Every home's TV will be the interacting window to the external world, with cloud computing as OS platform.
rptechplex 2 years ago
I don't think people will buy into this, I wouldn't. Too many "what ifs", what if the particular server that stores your files goes down? It would also make your files much more open to spies AKA "big brother" like Google, Microsoft, and the seriously corrupt NSA. Hell I live near RAF Menwith Hill - one of the biggest spy bases in the world of which is actually controlled by the NSA and is tide up in an Industrial espagne case involving Boeing and Airbus. People want control over their privacy.
ssssroryssss2 2 years ago
OMG pay as u go service another cell phone bill and i use my cell phone alot
vodka4six 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
whatever the guy on the phone said this guy was against because of his ego ultimately, the guy on the phone said we will have unlimited bandwidth and two years later we do this this was saying 10 years loll, remember technology is growing exponentially, and people need to understand that
vanityvideo 2 years ago
whatever the guy on the phone said this guy was against because of his ego ultimately, the guy on the phone said we will have unlimited bandwidth and two years later we do this this was saying 10 years loll, remember technology is growing exponentially, and people need to understand that
vanityvideo 2 years ago
lol I's sure he know that better than u
vodka4six 2 years ago
the guy on the phone is right, and i think ignorant and none innovative people should keep their comments to themselves and not slow down the progress as its moving fast, this video was made in 2007 now its 2009 and we already have fiber optics to pretty much everyones house and if they dont they will get it very soon
vanityvideo 2 years ago
he sounded like my friend on shrooms
MrSoftchews 2 years ago
Cloud computing is dangerous! Look guys, Internet 2 is coming and it's not pretty. The point is to take away your freedom of YOUR hard drive space. Just look at what windows has done. Huge wide open back door for Microsoft to come in and dictate what your computer needs. Apple has done the same thing. Cloud computing only takes more freedoms away and leaves your experience to the mercy of some company. You illegally download music, you lose hard drive space or ram as punishment.
Pepsifx357 2 years ago 3
i see what ur gettin at
thedictator100b 2 years ago
Left brained people are protocol driven. It is in their nature. If russian whores macquarading as good wives stop calling me I'm all for it. America seems to think that everyone is like them. The future is wireless
allamallawalla 2 years ago