@socoolbob Brent definitely shot his FTs underhand at Oregon State. I used to go to the games and I thought it was cool that he was not afraid to do things differently. When he switched styles, I was actually kind of disappointed.
I would describe the answer as Yes considering that the palm of the hand
is the center. I have also had a habit of saying that this shot will teach itself as you practice over and over.
You are right to notice that Rick's hand is "over the top: of the basketball ... that his follow through "appears" unusual because the hands stay in that position.
He also emphasizes "relaxing' or what I call feeling it like a shot and he emphasizes the follow through.
Not only did it work for Barry, but that free throw motion is something that has made him world famous for all these decades among people who aren't necessarily huge basketball fans.
Do a google search and you will find Clifford was the center on the Championship Warriors Team with Rick. He also has an EXCELLENT reputation as BIG MAN Coach .. Rick Likes Him A LOT !!!
ah ok, yea i have seen him on the celtics bench during the playoffs now that you mention it. I was mistaking him for actor Bill Cobbs, plays Arthur Chaney in Air Bud, they look very similar in the face.
What's funny is that if Shaq shot his free throws under handed and became successful doing it, it would've made him more loved and more money. He has a fun personality and this would've added to his allure with the people and would've made him even more marketable.
Now instead being talked about for being a good under handed free throw shooter, Shaqs is known as one of the worst free throw shooters ever, he let his team down when the game is and was on the line.
Yes, George Johnson was the other player I remember who tried it. I tried some underhand free throws when I was 5'ft 2 - I wasn't much good, but perhaps I didn't have the right technique, training.
Plus, I'm a good free throw shooter > 70 percent.
For guards, people below 6'4 regular freethrows are ok, more like regular shots. Giants like Wilt and Shaq can't hit free throws, Yes, this underhand style would work better 4them, they aren't going to try anything new once they are pros.
Spurs Hacked a Shaq all day and look how that ended up. If that fat, lazy, overrated, underacheiving bum would train for once in his career, he might actually accomplish much more in his career then he currently has. His FT shooting and surgery on company time and backstabbing has gotten old
lol but he's still a champion, what u got. He has four rings. Some people are stupid. Rick Barry has one. Taking Kobe a long time to win that fourth ring though... Some people give nobody credit for doing it their own way. Anyway, he's lazy champion lol and still a top center in the league even now.
Its is a really gd way of hitting a high percentage shot. youve just gotta establish a set rhythm to your shot that you do every time you shoot, just like Rick said. Personally i look at the floor, bounce it 3 times to my right side, bend my knees, then look at the rim and shoot as i straighten my legs. i didnt use to have a routine. now i do ive found my free throw % has risen, from around 40% to 80%...another big factor is confidence!
It is a great way to shoot, but I could never see Shaq doing this. Simply because of his street cred. I mean you must admit it doesn't really look 'cool' to shoot like that. He would get a lot of laughs at him.
Establishing a successful routine is critical for all good shooters. I think the most important thing most of the basketball world ignores is, for me, that making a free throw underhand is SO EASY. Most people who make pronouncements on it have never tried to shoot the shot, with ANY consistency, and, it would appear, never will. Today, I shot free throws for the first time in at least three months. I have not forgotten how to lift my arms. I made ten out of ten or better four separate times.
So true when he talks about having a routine. Mine was lining myself up with my right foot to the pin and dribbling the ball four times and then shooting. Worked for me, and I think that's the most important thing he talks about in the video.
Great Question! One description of proper shooting technique includes "The complete inner surface of the hands should be in contact with the ball." positioning the ball on the fingertips before the execution of the shot positions it "too far" up the hand, positioningg the ball in the palm of the hand is "too low" on the hand. A position in between is the proper position. The ball rolling off the fingertips is how one develops the proper "feel" for the shot. Consult with the Masters!
What is Rick referring to when he comments on Shaqs free throw shooting: "first of all he gets it up in his fingertips, which is the worst thing you can do" (1:25) Presumably my English is not good enough to understand what exactly he means with "gets it up", since as far as I understand it the ball should be on the fingertips and not on the palm while shooting, so he must be referring to something else I guess?
Too bad no one wants to try the underhand technique these days. Another shot that needs to be taught is Kareem Addul Jabbar's "Sky Hook."
SAMRAM29 10 months ago
The master. There is no excuse for not at least giving this method a try.
poshko41 1 year ago
@poshko41 Turns out there are LOTS of "Excuses"
socoolbob 1 year ago
What's rick's Facebook name I can't find him/ what team did he cheer for growing up?
ELrabadi 1 year ago
@ELrabadi
Search for Rick Barry on Facebook ... Pick the one with his picture.
socoolbob 1 year ago
Did ricks son shoot like that in the nba
ELrabadi 1 year ago
@ELrabadi
None of Rick Barry's sons shot like that in the pros.
I believe Brent shot like that in College and then switched.
People looking for yet another reason NOT to shoot the shot
this way say that he quit because he could shoot better the other way.
Brent Barry does have a Facebook
So does Rick ... although, as yet, he and I are not Facebook Friends
socoolbob 1 year ago
@socoolbob Brent definitely shot his FTs underhand at Oregon State. I used to go to the games and I thought it was cool that he was not afraid to do things differently. When he switched styles, I was actually kind of disappointed.
Kbaca 7 months ago
Does my whole palm have to be on it
ELrabadi 1 year ago
@ELrabadi You are wise to ASK
I would describe the answer as Yes considering that the palm of the hand
is the center. I have also had a habit of saying that this shot will teach itself as you practice over and over.
You are right to notice that Rick's hand is "over the top: of the basketball ... that his follow through "appears" unusual because the hands stay in that position.
He also emphasizes "relaxing' or what I call feeling it like a shot and he emphasizes the follow through.
socoolbob 1 year ago
@ELrabadi
Teaching the shot, especially to new folks, I like to emphasize the A to B position.
You always start in the same place and the total athletic nature of "the move" is from Position A to Position B.
As you practice the shot it becomes automatic because it's the only shot you shoot this way and it's always from the same place to the same place.
Practice, Practice, Practice is the ONLY thing required to perfect this shot.
socoolbob 1 year ago
Shaq could have been the greatest of all time if he wasn't so damn lazy.
deanw0rmer 1 year ago
LOL...If Shaq really cares about his team, he would be in shape every season.
Well, looks at his weight now.
Civsuccess2 1 year ago
i miss rick on knbr
dtippy 1 year ago
This is great!
Not only did it work for Barry, but that free throw motion is something that has made him world famous for all these decades among people who aren't necessarily huge basketball fans.
highnrising 2 years ago
This was an absolutely fascinating video. Thanks for uploading it.
baronvg 2 years ago
Most players won't shoot underhanded because it looks goofy, but watching Barry, it seems to be a superior, more repeatable, natural motion...
bailinnumberguy 2 years ago
wow this comment and the 2 comments after are all fake. perfect punctuation? generic names? come on Bob your better than that.
BostonSportsGuy567 2 years ago
NOT TRUE ...
SWISH !!!
socoolbob 1 year ago
is that black guy the guy from air bud
jet0l19 2 years ago
"black guy" I think you mean is Clifford Ray
Do a google search and you will find Clifford was the center on the Championship Warriors Team with Rick. He also has an EXCELLENT reputation as BIG MAN Coach .. Rick Likes Him A LOT !!!
Clifford is a very cool guy !!!
socoolbob 2 years ago
ah ok, yea i have seen him on the celtics bench during the playoffs now that you mention it. I was mistaking him for actor Bill Cobbs, plays Arthur Chaney in Air Bud, they look very similar in the face.
jet0l19 2 years ago
chicago bulls 1971... great underrated player... hello there rick barry
RICK24BARRY 1 year ago
i meant to say rick barry fan channel
RICK24BARRY 1 year ago
Shaq has done ok. For me I think about the 2000 western Shaq on purpose and he kept making them.
Koolv32 2 years ago
Rick has a huge ego
Koolv32 2 years ago
Which can be a HUGE Good Thing ô¿~
socoolbob 2 years ago
I agree 100% with Rick.
What's funny is that if Shaq shot his free throws under handed and became successful doing it, it would've made him more loved and more money. He has a fun personality and this would've added to his allure with the people and would've made him even more marketable.
Now instead being talked about for being a good under handed free throw shooter, Shaqs is known as one of the worst free throw shooters ever, he let his team down when the game is and was on the line.
syecapsys 3 years ago 7
But, Rick Barry is the only NBA player since the 1960s to shoot underhanded.
I believe RIck Barry got one center on his Golden State warrior team to do the underhand free throw, that's it.
No one else, ever has done it and no one is going to be a breakthrough fall back to a 1940s White style of basketball.
I don't think Shaq would ever be 70 percent using underhand.
If he was trained since high school to shoot FT this way, sure.
He's too old to change.
itsareligionofpeace 2 years ago
That NOBODY has ever even tried it is what is so INCREDIBLE to ME. If you tried I believe in a short period of time YOU would be shooting 80 percent.
It's the SIMPLEST MOVE on the PLANET
Hands from position A to position B
George Johnson at one time a 40 percent free throw shooter one year he made 80+ percent underhand.
NOBODY else t has ever TRIED IT.
Shaq COULD BE 75 Percent !!!
Don't need a lot of "training" to learn to lift your arms from A to B.
He's too something to change!!!
socoolbob 2 years ago
Yes, George Johnson was the other player I remember who tried it. I tried some underhand free throws when I was 5'ft 2 - I wasn't much good, but perhaps I didn't have the right technique, training.
Plus, I'm a good free throw shooter > 70 percent.
For guards, people below 6'4 regular freethrows are ok, more like regular shots. Giants like Wilt and Shaq can't hit free throws, Yes, this underhand style would work better 4them, they aren't going to try anything new once they are pros.
itsareligionofpeace 2 years ago
Barry tells it like it is lol. A lot of people dont like that especially in the NBA.
deanw0rmer 3 years ago 6
lol
JVas93311 3 years ago
Spurs Hacked a Shaq all day and look how that ended up. If that fat, lazy, overrated, underacheiving bum would train for once in his career, he might actually accomplish much more in his career then he currently has. His FT shooting and surgery on company time and backstabbing has gotten old
krazygreen 3 years ago 3
lol but he's still a champion, what u got. He has four rings. Some people are stupid. Rick Barry has one. Taking Kobe a long time to win that fourth ring though... Some people give nobody credit for doing it their own way. Anyway, he's lazy champion lol and still a top center in the league even now.
cryogenics66 3 years ago
4 championships, a season MVP award, 3 Finals MVP awards, multiple all-star appearances, multiple all-NBA first team selections, Olympic gold...yeah, he's definitely a fat, lazy, overrated, underachieving bum somehow.
JTriumf 2 years ago
Its is a really gd way of hitting a high percentage shot. youve just gotta establish a set rhythm to your shot that you do every time you shoot, just like Rick said. Personally i look at the floor, bounce it 3 times to my right side, bend my knees, then look at the rim and shoot as i straighten my legs. i didnt use to have a routine. now i do ive found my free throw % has risen, from around 40% to 80%...another big factor is confidence!
5p3nc3 3 years ago
GREAT tutorial for young players
mcgiver02 4 years ago
Highest Free Throw Percentage: 95.81% by Calvin Murphy, 1980-81 (206 made in 215 attempts). Take that Rick lol
rob2011r 4 years ago
95% for 1 season is nothing for rick he average 90% life time and some were 97% a jazz player has 99 % free thrown.
mugupo10 3 years ago
It is a great way to shoot, but I could never see Shaq doing this. Simply because of his street cred. I mean you must admit it doesn't really look 'cool' to shoot like that. He would get a lot of laughs at him.
mkballer 4 years ago
That's funny. I was sure it looked SoCooL ... Dot Com, of course ô¿~
socoolbob 4 years ago
shaq dont have street cred, buddy
RSXSmoke 4 years ago
I don't have any sort of routine and I shoot at least 80%. by the way I am 6'2" and 16 years old.
SolidSnakeRules 4 years ago
Establishing a successful routine is critical for all good shooters. I think the most important thing most of the basketball world ignores is, for me, that making a free throw underhand is SO EASY. Most people who make pronouncements on it have never tried to shoot the shot, with ANY consistency, and, it would appear, never will. Today, I shot free throws for the first time in at least three months. I have not forgotten how to lift my arms. I made ten out of ten or better four separate times.
socoolbob 4 years ago
And how did you make better than ten out of ten?
axemexa1 3 years ago
Practice ô¿~
socoolbob 3 years ago
So true when he talks about having a routine. Mine was lining myself up with my right foot to the pin and dribbling the ball four times and then shooting. Worked for me, and I think that's the most important thing he talks about in the video.
blacksabfan 4 years ago
A part of his career occurred before 3 pointers.
Rick was and is a fine outside shooter "overhand" although he definitely "could" shoot "underhand" from a variety of positions and distances.
socoolbob 4 years ago
did he shoot like 3 pointers like that?
peprika129 4 years ago
lol@little cock at 7:40 mark.
krazygreen 4 years ago
im 15 and i get about 8 or 9 shots in out of 10 but to be onest, mostly i get 6 or 7 out of 10. atleast im better then shaq :D
CwalkingSUCKS 5 years ago
You're Welcome ... Thanks for saying so !!!
socoolbob 5 years ago
These vids are great thanks for putting them up socoolbob
byu1984 5 years ago
Great Question! One description of proper shooting technique includes "The complete inner surface of the hands should be in contact with the ball." positioning the ball on the fingertips before the execution of the shot positions it "too far" up the hand, positioningg the ball in the palm of the hand is "too low" on the hand. A position in between is the proper position. The ball rolling off the fingertips is how one develops the proper "feel" for the shot. Consult with the Masters!
socoolbob 5 years ago
Oh I see, that makes sense indeed. Thanks for the quick and enlightening response!
yvjohns 5 years ago
A question for the specialists:
What is Rick referring to when he comments on Shaqs free throw shooting: "first of all he gets it up in his fingertips, which is the worst thing you can do" (1:25) Presumably my English is not good enough to understand what exactly he means with "gets it up", since as far as I understand it the ball should be on the fingertips and not on the palm while shooting, so he must be referring to something else I guess?
Thanks in advance for any comments.
yvjohns 5 years ago